Aaron Smith-Levin Arrested for Felony Assault at Flag Land Base

[I M Dex]

It seems crazy to consider that Aaron was standing at the door in a spot that could have been public property, but that building is 125 years old and originally was built as a bank. Apparently, no one objected back at that time to the building being partially on public property.

I believe that that IS the case. Otherwise, it would have been a simple matter for Scientology to get a survey done to show Aaron was trespassing, and it would have strengthened their case.

Its certainly a fact that COS reps try to discourage and chase away protestors by falsely insisting that they are trespassing on cult property, I've experienced that first hand. I don't know what the legal facts are in this situation, but that's something they do. I would hope that a court would need to see a deed or title to consider that they had a case.

 

[TheSneakster]

The property line argument is a Red Herring of the first water. After review of Florida law, it would seem that Aaron putting a foot in the door to prevent them from closing it is classified as forcible entry and therefore trespass, whether he was charged with that or not.

The lack of a trespass charge only means he can't be criminally convicted of that. AFAICT, that doesn't mean the fact of it can't be used in an argument that the staff member's use of (very limited) force to remove him from the doorway was perfectly lawful under Florida trespassing statutes.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

The property line argument is a Red Herring of the first water. After review of Florida law, it would seem that Aaron putting a foot in the door to prevent them from closing it is classified as forcible entry and therefore trespass, whether he was charged with that or not.

The lack of a trespass charge only means he can't be criminally convicted of that. AFAICT, that doesn't mean the fact of it can't be used in an argument that the staff member's use of (very limited) force to remove him from the doorway was perfectly lawful under Florida trespassing statutes.

Interesting...

In courts the final adjudication often comes down to very arcane and specialized statutes...that one would never expect or even think of.

i'll just make up this example: What if the judge's final verdict hinges on the fact that Aaron's foot in the door might or might not be tresspassing. Then the arguments would turn on whether the occupants (SO members) vocally articulated the "get out" component of trespassing someone. Or it might hinge on something else, which could be whether pushing the door against aaron's foot was a defacto trespass warning that did not require vocalization.

This could be wildly more complicated if there was a typical sign on the outside of the scientology center that said "EVERYONE IS WELCOME!" Ergo, when Aaron accepted the invitation he was within his rights to walk in, therefore the placement of his foot COULD have been him simply STEPPING in. Some judge might consider that "battery" had happened when the SO members pushed the door against his foot.

In my experience, even the most sophisticated and savvy litigators must dig deep researching case law, and even then they must often resort to bringing another more specialized atty aboard ("of counsel") to help advise on esoteric points of law, if not to present arguments to the court.

But as you have noted before (at least i think it was you) when aaron tried to prevent the door from closing, he was leaving his fate in the hands of OTs on the other side of that door. Trusting OTs is never a good idea. LOL


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[TheSneakster]

"But as you have noted before (at least i think it was you) when aaron tried to prevent the door from closing, he was leaving his fate in the hands of OTs on the other side of that door. "

That certainly wasn't me, because I never use the term OT to mock Scientology staff or public.

 

[Type4_PTS]

The property line argument is a Red Herring of the first water. After review of Florida law, it would seem that Aaron putting a foot in the door to prevent them from closing it is classified as forcible entry and therefore trespass, whether he was charged with that or not.

The lack of a trespass charge only means he can't be criminally convicted of that. AFAICT, that doesn't mean the fact of it can't be used in an argument that the staff member's use of (very limited) force to remove him from the doorway was perfectly lawful under Florida trespassing statutes.

Contrary to your claim about the property line argument being a Red Herring, it could open the door to Aaron getting a new trial and/or a new judge.
In the video posted above, Aaron reads the motions to disqualify the judge and for a new trial, which go into that issue.

As far as your review of Florida law, which made you believe Aaron was guilty of trespassing, what do you believe is the reason that Aaron wasn't charged?
In Florida, trespassing can land you in jail for 60 days. Wouldn't the CoS have pushed for that if he committed that crime?

There are legitimate legal reasons Aaron was not charged with trespassing. A pink sheet is being sent to you later in the day.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

"But as you have noted before (at least i think it was you) when aaron tried to prevent the door from closing, he was leaving his fate in the hands of OTs on the other side of that door. "

That certainly wasn't me, because I never use the term OT to mock Scientology staff or public.

Of course I did not think you were mocking OTs. Perhaps what I wrote was not well articulated, because I was referring to the fact that Aaron "goofed-the-floof" when he blocked the scientologists from closing the door by means of his squirrel "foot-bullet" technology. The part about "...it's never a good idea to trust OTs" was my personal (and gratuitous) editorial comment.

The main difference of opinion that you and I have clashed with for years is that you believe that OTs can and do exist outside of the Church of Scientology. And I believe that no OTs exist either inside OR outside of the cult (i.e. within the indy cult). lol

In the interests of full disclosure, I should also mention that I hold other "suppressive" beliefs, such as thinking that scientology is, in fact, an implant station cleverly masquerading as a church that promises to rid the universe of implant stations. In all likelihood, if I were holding soup cans right now the needle would assuredly be rockslamming due to my having evil non-standard opinions that do not appear in Dr. Hubbard's standardly sacred scripture. LOL.

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[TheSneakster]

"The main difference of opinion that you and I have clashed with for years is that you believe that OTs can and do exist outside of the Church of Scientology."

No, the main reason you and I clash is because you delusionally imagine you know what I believe or do not believe beyond what I have explicitly written myself.

As far as I am concerned, Operating Thetan (as described by Ron Hubbard) is a spiritual state in which I neither believe nor disbelieve. I certainly have never observed anything to make me believe anyone in or out of Scientology has ever stably attained it. For me, that state remains a purely theoretical possibility that nobody on this Earth can repeatably demonstrate having achieved or produced in others.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

"The main difference of opinion that you and I have clashed with for years is that you believe that OTs can and do exist outside of the Church of Scientology."

No, the main reason you and I clash is because you delusionally imagine you know what I believe or do not believe beyond what I have explicitly written myself.

As far as I am concerned, Operating Thetan (as described by Ron Hubbard) is spiritual state I neither believe nor disbelieve. I certainly have never observed anything to make me believe anyone in or out of Scientology has ever stably attained it. For me, that state remains a purely theoretical possibility that nobody on this Earth can repeatably demonstrate having achieved or produced in others.

Jeez! So...are you are saying that Ron's "Bridge to Total Freedom" and 76 years of promoting to the world that "total freedom" is only possible by attaining the miraculous states of OT is fake? Wouldn't that therefore make scientology a hell of a hoax?

Or....are you (alternately) saying that after three quarters of century, the reason that nobody can still demonstrate a single OT power is simply due to Ron having missed the fact that—despite OTs having acquired supremely supernatural powers they are unable to show those god-like powers for the past 76 years because OTs are very com laggy? LOL

CONFESSION: For having joked about Ron's "modern science" I realize that I have sabotaged my own eternity, so what? lol

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[ILove2Lurk]

All Sea Org members at the base and all sci publics in Clearwater will
be mandated to carry a state-of-art technology device called a "beeper"
or "pager" 24 hrs. a day. If anyone spots Aaron anywhere on the street or
in a closed in area, like a market or restaurant, they're to write and send out
a location message, which is automatically and instantly forwarded to OSA.

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[HelluvaHoax!]

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LOL

That "OSATRACKER" is a riot!

Perhaps even more hilarious is the reference to "pulled pork sandwiches" - - which mercilessly mocks the pretentious pathos of planetary clearing with brutal bathos.

As such, a 24K gold "POWER J&D" lapel pin has been shipped to your home in Sweden.

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[ILove2Lurk]

Perhaps even more hilarious is the reference to "pulled pork sandwiches" - - which mercilessly mocks the pretentious pathos of planetary clearing with brutal bathos.

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Looks really good!
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[I M Dex]

"The main difference of opinion that you and I have clashed with for years is that you believe that OTs can and do exist outside of the Church of Scientology."

No, the main reason you and I clash is because you delusionally imagine you know what I believe or do not believe beyond what I have explicitly written myself.

As far as I am concerned, Operating Thetan (as described by Ron Hubbard) is spiritual state I neither believe nor disbelieve. I certainly have never observed anything to make me believe anyone in or out of Scientology has ever stably attained it. For me, that state remains a purely theoretical possibility that nobody on this Earth can repeatably demonstrate having achieved or produced in others.

That's only because you haven't been there to witness me conjuring up a parking spot.

 

[TheSneakster]

That's only because you haven't been there to witness me conjuring up a parking spot.

When you can parallel park an entire galaxy without using a rear-view mirror, let me know.

 

[I M Dex]

When you can parallel park an entire galaxy without using a rear-view mirror, let me know.

Spoken like a true OT.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

That's only because you haven't been there to witness me conjuring up a parking spot.

Thank you for sharing your OT parking win!

After I attested to OT VIII, I was incredibly excited to test out my ability to be "...total subjective and objective cause over matter, energy, space and time", per the Grade Chart at that time. I planned to go to the busiest downtown area of the city and find and/or mock up a parking spot (a supernatural feat that no homo sapiens could possibly do). I felt total certaintly that I would easily be able to perform this miraculous feat, just as LRH promised us!

Just before leaving the Advanced Org, I had to make a pit stop in the men's room because (via my new OT powers) I perceived that my MEST body was getting ready to blow some mass. When I emerged from the WC after completing that cycle, all of the people in reception were looking at me and smiling and laughing like crazy. This validated my new OT state because the amount of theta I was exuding as an OT VIII was nearly infinite and everyone in my vicinity instantly began blowing charge and winning with VVGIs! This was an entirely new "ability attained" that Ron had not even put on the Grade Chart, so you can imagine how proud I felt when just by my very presence upon walking into a room, the beings there soared up the tone scale to hysterical laughter and super theta.

Naturally, I wrote up my OT win for Advance! magazine but they never published it which really invalidated my OT state so badly that I wrote KRs and demanded a Committee of Evidence to find the why that my OT VIII win was never published. Eventually, I was sent to the ethics officer and received a Non-Enturbulation Order if I persisted in discovering the why that my parking win wasn't published.

The Ethics Officer finally was forced to give me an R-Factor about why my OT win wasn't published. It turns out that everyone who was wildly line charging at the AO that day was laughing because (after exiting the WC) I had a 19 foot trail of toilet paper coming out of my pants.

At that moment I began to feel all the theta returning to my space because I cognited that a 19 foot TP trail was certainly an unprecedented "highest ever" stat for any being on this planet!

While writing this I kind of forgot what my "parking win" was, but I think that is because at the moment I am exterior from both my reactive and my analytical mind. Thanks Ron.




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[HelluvaHoax!]

As far as I am concerned, Operating Thetan (as described by Ron Hubbard) is a spiritual state . . .

As far as I am concerned, Operating Thetan (as described by Ron Hubbard) is two-words he discovered
would convince beings on this planet to pay him hundreds of millions of dollars as well as sign
one-billion year contracts to promote those two magical words to gullible wealthy people.

(I am extremely reluctant to admit this, but in fact many people had impressively HUGE WINS from those two words. L. Ron Hubbard, himself while checking his personal bank account balances—and all the people jubilantly celebrating the OT lapel pins that Ron awarded them)


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[Type4_PTS]

The Ethics Officer finally was forced to give me an R-Factor about why my OT win wasn't published. It turns out that everyone who was wildly line charging at the AO that day was laughing because (after exiting the WC) I had a 19 foot trail of toilet paper coming out of my pants.

When I was a teenager working in a restaurant, one of the managers came out of the bathroom one day, and, like you, he was trailing some toilet paper behind him. But in his case, it was only about 4 feet. Despite being much shorter, it seemed to have the same effect on bystanders.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

When I was a teenager working in a restaurant, one of the managers came out of the bathroom one day, and, like you, he was trailing some toilet paper behind him. But in his case, it was only about 4 feet. Despite being much shorter, it seemed to have the same effect on bystanders.

lol lol lol

Well, hopefully someone validated his 4 foot "trailer" and additionally r-factored that being about Ron's "AFFLUENCE FORMULA"; so that (if applied) he could one day reach the advanced level of POWER OTT (Power Operating Toiletpaper Trail).



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[I M Dex]

Thank you for sharing your OT parking win!






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I don't mean to brag, but I didn't even have a car at the time and there wasn't even a parking lot.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

I don't mean to brag, but I didn't even have a car at the time and there wasn't even a parking lot.

hilllllarious!


On the serious side, I believe that you must have attained an OT level above OT XV!!!

Ron states (not merely writes) that above OT XV the being operates with NO MEST (i.e. without the need for any MEST. Ergo, you proved that by utilizing your OT powers to find a parking space when there was NO MEST car as well as NO MEST parking lot.

I once attended a super confidential briefing about the next advanced level above OT 15....to wit, OT XVI, which Ron called "TOTAL NOingness" where you "rise above" the need for MEST e-meters and MEST soup cans. Ron states that at that OT level the being only has to pay for the auditing and does not have to actually show up in the MEST space where the org, auditor, meter and soup cans are. That is so incredibly amazing, that I am having huge OT XVI wins on it already. Unfortunately the registrars at the AO said they did not receive my payments. This happened because I used the NO MEST payments tech and just postulated that my account would be credited.

I did some why finding and discovered that the org staff is not yet up to OT XVI, so that's why they were unable to perceive my advance payments.

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