TOP SUPER-STUPID MOMENTS IN SCIENTOLOGY (PART V)

[Noteta]

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There are two (2) ways to leave the cult of Scientology and/or the independent cult of Scientology.

1. LEAVE! (e.g. walk away, use caller ID or change your phone number)

2. DO THE ENTIRE BRIDGE! (pay any amount they tell you to pay, do every auditing and
training action they tell you to do. Spend as many decades as necessary to ascend up the
"Grade Chart" to the highest OT level attainable. At that time you will have many miraculous
supernatural capabilities, including the ability to LEAVE—after you have noted that none of
your paranormal powers seem to work).

FREE BONUS TIP: When they send you your "SP DECLARE" which informs you that you
will never-ever-ever be able to do the as-yet-unreleased OT levels or come inside an org,
you should use "TR-2" to gratefully and profusely thank them!


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My story in brief.
I read Dianetics at 20, after finishing the military, now I'm 58.
At the time I had some insecurities and psychosomatic problems.
With his rhetoric Hubbard convinced me of the reactive mind and engrams
I looked for a church, but at the time there were trials underway in Italy (I'm Italian), so I gave up.
Then a few years later I went to a church in Milan, but I only bought one book and left, because I knew the costs were unsustainable for me.
Then after a few years the independent groups were born.
With them I did some objective and auditing.
I never achieved much, only more confusion.
With one of them I felt a sense of dissociation.
Let's say that the things that attracted me were the theory of the reactive mind, of engrams, that of Thetans and body thetans.
They have created an obsessive state in me.
I would like to free myself from these concepts and return to feeling good, with a free mind.
Thank you

 

[Bill]

My story in brief.
I read Dianetics at 20, after finishing the military, now I'm 58.
At the time I had some insecurities and psychosomatic problems.
With his rhetoric Hubbard convinced me of the reactive mind and engrams
I looked for a church, but at the time there were trials underway in Italy (I'm Italian), so I gave up.
Then a few years later I went to a church in Milan, but I only bought one book and left, because I knew the costs were unsustainable for me.
Then after a few years the independent groups were born.
With them I did some objective and auditing.
I never achieved much, only more confusion.
With one of them I felt a sense of dissociation.
Let's say that the things that attracted me were the theory of the reactive mind, of engrams, that of Thetans and body thetans.
They have created an obsessive state in me.
I would like to free myself from these concepts and return to feeling good, with a free mind.
Thank you

The important thing to know about all of Hubbard's theories: Not one on his theories was EVER proven. After decades! Not one.
The True Story of Scientology

 

[Noteta]

The important thing to know about all of Hubbard's theories: Not one on his theories was EVER proven. After decades! Not one.
The True Story of Scientology

Thank you Bill !

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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My story in brief. I read Dianetics at 20, after finishing the military, now I'm 58. At the time I had some insecurities and psychosomatic problems. With his rhetoric Hubbard convinced me of the reactive mind and engrams I looked for a church, but at the time.... (snipped for brevity)...

Your post reminded me of someone who used to be a frequent poster on this discussion board and had many thousands of posts about "rhetoric". Due to unhandled parts of my reactive mind and partially blown BTs, I reactively began to wonder if perhaps you are that same person.

If you want to share stories or info about your personal experiences you could start a thread dedicated to that. We like to keep this thread strictly about "Stupid Moments In Scientology". Thanks!

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[Reyne Mayer]

reading the Overheard in the FreeZone over at the The Underground Bunker today, it made me think that indies seem to me a bit like hobos around a fire cooking shoe leather for soup -- and having animated discussions about what meat they are imagining is in it....

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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reading the Overheard in the FreeZone over at the The Underground Bunker today, it made me think that indies seem to me a bit like hobos around a fire cooking shoe leather for soup -- and having animated discussions about what meat they are imagining is in it....

LOL!

By far the best laugh of the day, thx!

Especially because most of my day was spent on a computer requiring fierce-focusing with translation software so i could fluidly chat with mon amour français. I did enroll in more online french classes but have been playing hooky from my daily lessons like a juvenile delinquent out in back of the school smoking cigs......


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[Dankmeme]

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There are two (2) ways to leave the cult of Scientology and/or the independent cult of Scientology.

1. LEAVE! (e.g. walk away, use caller ID or change your phone number)

2. DO THE ENTIRE BRIDGE! ...
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Sound advice, but I am struggling to "word clear" this concept of a bridge. It's my understanding that a bridge ought to be complete before the public are allowed anywhere near it. Attempting to cross an incomplete bridge would be a lemming-like exercise leading only to drowning. A bridge ought to lead somewhere, demonstrably, or only a fool would pay for it. Maybe it's more of a seaside pier.

Finally, what about the oddballs who speak of going "up" a bridge? Surely, you cross a bridge and the journey is a horizontal one. You can go up a ziggurat, or something... but sooner or later, you've got to come back down. If it's entering you want, that implies a tunnel.

 

[Type4_PTS]

Sound advice, but I am struggling to "word clear" this concept of a bridge.

Hubbard changed the meaning of many English words. Maybe his concept of a bridge wasn't the same as other people's. It might have looked like this.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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LOL!
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[HelluvaHoax!]

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IF SCIENTOLOGY SUDDENLY BEGAN OBEYING
"TRUTH IN ADVERTISING" REGULATIONS & LAWS


BEFORE

AFTER

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[HelluvaHoax!]

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Really Ron?
Can anyone with decades of experience
within Scientology name even one (1). . .

...BLIND person who can SEE again?
...LAME person who can WALK again?
...INSANE person who became SANE again?

My e-meter is momentarily in the PAWN SHOP so I cannot
currently conduct a scientifically precise verification of
any of Ron's magical claims. However I was able to
conduct some scientific research on the matter.

CAN SCIENTOLOGY MIRACULOUSLY CURE
BLINDNESS OR EVEN POOR EYESIGHT?

OT Nancy Cartright (voice of Bart Simpson) has donated more than
21 MILLION dollars to Scientology, but no eyesight miracle yet.

OT movie star Michael Pena. . . no eyesight miracle yet.



Even a holy OT Scientology minister. . . no miracle yet.

OT moviestar John Travolta (celebrating his 50th year in
Scientology in 2025). . . still no eyesight miracle yet.
Actually his eyesight got worse after going
Clear & OT, since he didn't even need
glasses when he joined back in 1975!

CAN THE "MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL ILLNESS" MIRACULOUSLY CURE INSANITY?

Despite multiple attempts, we have as yet been unable to make contact
with this upper-level Scientologist in order to get her on video
to share the exciting details of her miraculous OT win when
Scientology cured her of a serious mental breakdown.


* * * PHOTOGRAPHIC PROOF THAT SCIENTOLOGY CURES THE INSANE * * *

There it is! Scientific evidence that Scientology's founder himself was
super uptone and cheerful! Thus, it it very safe to conclude that the above
photo was taken after his failed suicide attempt (due to his inability to
exorcise large numbers of comatose aliens that Ron stated were
stuck inside his head and making him morbidly depressed—
which was the reason he was unable to Clear the planet)



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[Type4_PTS]

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Can anyone with decades of experience
within Scientology name even one (1). . .

...BLIND person who can SEE again?
...LAME person who can WALK again?
...INSANE person who became SANE again?

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I've never witnessed any of those things or read about one in success stories, Advance Magazine, or elsewhere.

If a mainstream media outlet were to ever interview a single individual who had ever been helped in this way, there would be millions of people ready to see the reg at a CoS. There are 43 million people in the world at present who are blind. And there are hundreds of millions of their family and friends who would be able to witness those miracles performed by Scientology auditors. That would go a long way towards clearing the planet!

Although I've never witnessed an insane person who became sane again, I did witness a sane person who became insane, and heard many stories from others who also witnessed instances of that happening.

I asked Chat GPT about this as well just now. I asked:
Did a sane person ever become insane due to Scientology auditing?

Chat GPT answered:

Yes, there have been multiple reports of people experiencing severe psychological distress, mental breakdowns, and even psychosis after undergoing Scientology auditing. While Scientology promotes auditing as a way to achieve mental clarity and spiritual enlightenment, some former members and mental health professionals have warned that it can have harmful psychological effects, especially on vulnerable individuals.

Cases and Reports of Psychological Harm from Scientology Auditing

1. Lisa McPherson Case (1995)
   • Lisa McPherson, a dedicated Scientologist, suffered a mental breakdown after years of auditing and church practices.
   • Instead of seeking psychiatric care, Scientology placed her in isolation at the Fort Harrison Hotel in Clearwater, Florida, under their "Introspection Rundown" program.
   • She died 17 days later from severe dehydration and neglect. This case raised major concerns about how Scientology handles mental health crises.
2. Ex-Scientologists Reporting Mental Breakdowns
   • Many former members, such as those featured in Leah Remini’s Scientology and the Aftermath series, have described suffering paranoia, emotional trauma, and dissociation after intense auditing.
   • Some claim that constant self-interrogation, exposure to distressing memories, and fear of repercussions (like "ethics handling" or disconnection from family) led to mental instability.
3. The "Introspection Rundown" – A Dangerous Practice
   • This is a Scientology procedure designed to handle a person experiencing a mental breakdown without psychiatry (which Scientology opposes).
   • Individuals are isolated, forbidden from speaking, and subjected to further auditing until they "recover."
   • Critics, including medical professionals, have stated that this method can worsen psychological conditions rather than help.
4. Psychiatrists and Experts Warning About Auditing’s Risks
   • The American Psychiatric Association and other mental health organizations have expressed concern over Scientology's anti-psychiatry stance and its unproven mental health practices.
   • Some experts suggest that the high-pressure environment, confession-like auditing sessions, and constant fear of punishment can trigger psychological distress or even psychosis in certain individuals.

Conclusion

While some Scientologists claim auditing has helped them, there are many documented cases of people experiencing mental instability, paranoia, breakdowns, and even psychosis as a result of intense auditing and church pressure. Unlike mainstream therapy, auditing lacks medical oversight and can push people into deep emotional distress without professional support.

Would you like to hear personal testimonies or legal cases related to this?

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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I've never witnessed any of those things or read about one in success stories, Advance Magazine, or elsewhere. If a mainstream media outlet were to ever interview a single individual who had ever been helped in this way, there would be millions of people ready to see the reg at a CoS. There are 43 million people in the world at present who are blind. And there are hundreds of millions of their family and friends who would be able to witness those miracles performed by Scientology auditors. *** snipped for brevity ***

PARADOX DU JOUR: While Scientology falsely claims that they can cure the blind and miraculously restore their vision
they are actually engaged in a fanatical effort to render their customers not physically blind---but PSYCHOLOGICALLY BLIND.

Scientology prohibits their donors from SEEING any negative article, video, documentary or book on the truth about
their "church" and their "OT savior Hubbard".

So on one hand, they don't cure the blind and they additionally don't even allow the sighted to see!

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[Type4_PTS]

..PARADOX DU JOUR: While Scientology falsely claims that they can cure the blind and miraculously restore their vision
they are actually engaged in a fanatical effort to render their customers not physically blind---but PSYCHOLOGICALLY BLIND.

Scientology prohibits their donors from SEEING any negative article, video, documentary or book on the truth about
their "church" and their "OT savior Hubbard".

So on one hand, they don't cure the blind and they additionally don't even allow the sighted to see!

I suspect that CoS sometimes succeeded in doing just that, rendering their customers psychologically blind. As you wrote, Scientologists were prohibited from seeing anything negative, such as articles, videos, documentaries, books, etc. Scientologists were prohibited from communicating about any of these things as well. Despite the ability promised from Hubbard on one of the early steps on the "Bridge" (Grade 1), the ability to communicate freely with anyone on any subject, doing so was absolutely forbidden. Some Scientologists even suppressed themselves from even thinking about such things, concerned it would come up in a sec-check, costing them money and landing them in Ethics trouble.

In addition to all that, there is a psychological phenomenon used by magicians called "inattentional blindness". They focus your attention away from what they don't want you to see to trick you. I wonder if Hubbard used this method as well.

Here's a page with info about this phenomenon:

10 Inattentional Blindness Examples

Inattentional blindness is a psychological phenomenon that occurs when a person fails to notice something that is unexpected yet in plain sight. It is not a result of a physical ailment of vision, but the

helpfulprofessor.com

It is not a result of a physical ailment of vision, but the fact the person was not paying attention-even though the stimulus was directly in front of them.

Causes of inattentional blindness include hyper-focusing on one particular thing (see: selective attention), and simultaneous multi-tasking, which can cause a “blindness” to what is happening in the world around you.

Inattentional Blindness Definition and Features
Here is the simplest yet most complete definition of intentional blindness we’ve found:

One of the most essential functions of our cognitive system, the ability to selectively prioritize certain sensations, sometimes leads us to inadvertently exclude other sensory information from awareness: We often miss an object right in front of our eyes if it occurs unexpectedly and our attention is otherwise engaged. This phenomenon has been labeled inattentional blindness, and it occurs in diverse and potentially critical situations (Kreitz et al., 2015)

1. Watching a Magician
“You are tricked by an illusion when you are watching a magician. While you are concentrating on one thing, your brain does not process what is really happening.”

Researchers have suggested that studying magic tricks, and the way attention is diverted or misdirected, is beneficial to understanding inattentional blindness.

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While magic tricks are created to divert our attention, it has opened up a specific research niche that gives insight into human attentiveness. Barnhart & Goldinger (2014) profess:

“There is an increasing awareness that magicians are informal cognitive scientists who continually test hypotheses outside of the sterile confines of the laboratory. The knowledge accrued through this informal experimentation can guide formal scientific theories as well as translate into fresh methodologies for studying phenomena in the lab. Thus far, the most fruitful collaborative effort between these disparate groups has been in the study of attention and inattentional blindness (IB), the tendency for people to miss salient pieces of the environment when engaged in an attention-demanding task. Magic provides an ecologically valid arena for studying IB both in well-controlled laboratory conditions and in conditions with more natural performance and viewing” (para 1-2)

<snip> Full article at link above

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I know that Hubbard studied Magick beginning at age 16. And there is a big difference between the subjects of Magick and Magic. I've not studied any of Aleister Crowley, so I don't know how much overlap there is between the two subjects. Does the study of Magick enable one to trick people using this method that magicians use?

Scientology and the occult - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The Difference Between Magick and Magic

The Difference Between Magic and Magick

Do you want to better understand the origin of the terms magic and magick? Learn about these terms and the differences between them.

www.learnreligions.com

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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Excellent post! Especially that definition of "INATTENTIONAL BLINDNESS". It's so good that I would recommend that Scientology install that on the Grade Chart as the name (when it's released) of OT XVI.

Later the cult can release an even higher, more-advanced upper level - - OT XVII. The name of that state of being
should be:

COGNITIVE COGNITION DISSONANCE
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The Scientologist is not allowed to attest to OT XVII until they can successfully demonstrate the "ability attained" of having epic scale realizations and wins about things that never happened and/or do not even exist.


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[HelluvaHoax!]

OT XVII
COGNITIVE COGNITION DISSONANCE​

The Scientologist is not allowed to attest to OT XVII until they can successfully demonstrate the "ability attained" of having epic scale realizations and wins about things that never happened and/or do not even exist.

example (1989)

OT WIN
Wow, yesterday I did my first OT VII "Solo NOTS" session
at home inside a little back bedroom that nobody ever uses.
And this morning I saw the news and the Berlin Wall had fallen.
Unbelievable OT success. By auditing the "material" on OT VII, so much
theta was freed that I suddenly noticed that the tone arm blew down--
whereupon something on my case blew, and at that very instant
7,931 miles away, the entheta Berlin Wall blew! And then I
cognited why Ron wanted AOLA to be painted the color blew!
—Billy Blowdown (OT VIII)
Grammar Course Specialist, Super-Literate
[ currently bogged on a clay demo of the word homonym ]
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[HelluvaHoax!]

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AFTER CULTSPEAK TRANSLATION

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[HelluvaHoax!]

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There are many winning people within Scientology. . .

However, there are even more supremely successful people
who the public doesn't even realize use the miracle
producing technologies of L. Ron Hubbard!

[ example follows ]

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How others became billionaires— just like Ron!

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