stratty
Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
That's interesting - seventy years to the day since I was born.This is only 4 years old, Oct. 22, 2016
I'd post a photo' of myself and my beard as an avatar too, but I don't want to frighten the children.
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That's interesting - seventy years to the day since I was born.This is only 4 years old, Oct. 22, 2016
The question remains why Mike does not address these issues in depth and why isn't he sharing good advice on how to spot, identity and defeat OSA operatives. I am not going to pretend that I have an answer to that. But I remain rather suspicious of Mike precisely because we do not have the answer to that question.
I do NOT know - if you need any help - how could I, without knowing you . . . ?What do you think we need your help with, and how could I be of help to you?
So I will give it a try for you!
I was born on April, 28 in 1947 - that makes my body 73 years old - the photograph is older than 2003, because my mother was still alive then, probably 2002, so I can change it, if you care . . .
There is no secret, as the picture shows me at 56 or so - is THAT a crime in the US, where people have their faces pulled to the ears . . . ?
That one I don't get: "to back-hand us here, don't expect much conviviality." but it sounds like you feel offended ???
So correct me - I havn't been in the US for an eternity, but we say in Germany: "dogs that bark - don't bite!"
"What did Europe address? And what is not addressed in the US?" I do not mean "Europe" - I talk about a tiny little group of hard-core ex scientologists that try to understand how scientology could be beaten to death . . . ? We ask lots of questions and it all boils down to a WAKO-like war from US-SECRET-SERVICE . . .
In Germany the people loose their existence, if they are scientologists, you can't work for the government as a teacher and all this. We learned that three american OT's were in fact CIA-Agents that in an act of treason sold the tech to the CIA in 1972, where at Stanford Research Institute SECRET investigations looked at EXTERIORISATION- techniques for military purpose and spying and that type of criminal stuff . . .
It looks like they found out that scientology works - so ever after the CIA has the monopoly on the "hot" stuff - and the church of Scientology delivers highly controlled & perfectly castrated tech, that looks & sounds great, but does NOT really work . . . So customers get carefully needled into howling anger on purpose . . .
Look at what the US DEEP STATE is doing with the elected president . . .
The same crooks that producud SARS-CoV-2 & Covid-19 in US & Chinese military labs from Corona + Sequences from the HIV Aids Virus in a SECRET BIO-WAR-ATTACK to sell their gene-altering vaccines to sterilize the population as already done in the past in India & Kenia by eugenic psychopath KiLL BiLL Gates, as we call this criminal in Germany. Let me stop here, as I do NOT want to overwhelm ANYBODY. If you doubt anything I have written, tell me what, and ask for PROOF, and I will help. Good night everybody, Europe is going to sleep . . .
Hi Pirate & Bum,I think you are too prone to conspiracy theories, many (ex) scientologists are. I admit I've had to learn a lot more about critical thinking on my own part.
Hello HelluvaHoax!
Looks like you carry a hell of a lot of charge around with you - can I help you?
Welcome to ESMBR. It appears that you are still a believer in Hubbard's "tech". No problem with that as long as you don't try to shove it down throats here.Hi Pirate & Bum,
I have never studied "critical thinking" - I do not even know WHAT that is - should I scratch my head, why you call yourself a "bum" or a "pirate"?
Or may I be open to every imaginable surprise from you - which I prefer.
I am just a wordclearer.
As a worclearer I recommend you look up the word "theorie", you might be surprised . . .
From when to when were you with Scientology, what Org, what post, what training?
Without putting your this-life-timetrack next to the expansion up to 1972 and then the topping out, and then the starting decay of Scientology - I do not know WHERE to locate you in your reality on what happened - but that is the key to UNDERSTANDIG, if that is what you desire . . .
On the other hand - if you believe - you know it all . . .
Then there will be no desire on your side to dig a little bit deeper . . . ?
Concerning the three american SCIENTOLOGY-TRAITORS from 1972 to the CIA - the only question that I do have is - where were YOU in 1972 ? Can you serve as a witness for that year? Do you know any one of the three personally?
How many OT's, that ATTESTED to OT-VII from BEFORE 1972 do you know personally? What could these people do, and what NOT?
It sounds to me, like you don't know the Definition of the word EXTERIORISATION, and thus seem to have never ever experienced that state of conciousness for yourself . . . ?
It is impossible to judge this without knowing this.
If you are interested in clearing that up for yourself first - so we talk about the same phenomenon - then I will help you, and afterwards we look at the possible findings of the CIA's intensive RESEARCH into Hubbard's exteriorisation.
You seem to think the CIA is an ethical and honest group, that always communicates the truth . . . ?
What about a little "critical" thinking on yourself FIRST- on that SECRET TERROR organisation - that we in Europe consider the most criminal MAFIA, that ever walked the surface of this planet . . . ?
I believe this picture is only 4 years old, from Oct. 22, 2016 - but don't crucify me if it's not . . .
Hi Pirate & Bum,
I have never studied "critical thinking" - I do not even know WHAT that is - should I scratch my head, why you call yourself a "bum" or a "pirate"?
Or may I be open to every imaginable surprise from you - which I prefer.
I am just a wordclearer.
As a worclearer I recommend you look up the word "theorie", you might be surprised . . .
From when to when were you with Scientology, what Org, what post, what training?
Without putting your this-life-timetrack next to the expansion up to 1972 and then the topping out, and then the starting decay of Scientology - I do not know WHERE to locate you in your reality on what happened - but that is the key to UNDERSTANDIG, if that is what you desire . . .
On the other hand - if you believe - you know it all . . .
Then there will be no desire on your side to dig a little bit deeper . . . ?
Concerning the three american SCIENTOLOGY-TRAITORS from 1972 to the CIA - the only question that I do have is - where were YOU in 1972 ? Can you serve as a witness for that year? Do you know any one of the three personally?
How many OT's, that ATTESTED to OT-VII from BEFORE 1972 do you know personally? What could these people do, and what NOT?
It sounds to me, like you don't know the Definition of the word EXTERIORISATION, and thus seem to have never ever experienced that state of conciousness for yourself . . . ?
It is impossible to judge this without knowing this.
If you are interested in clearing that up for yourself first - so we talk about the same phenomenon - then I will help you, and afterwards we look at the possible findings of the CIA's intensive RESEARCH into Hubbard's exteriorisation.
You seem to think the CIA is an ethical and honest group, that always communicates the truth . . . ?
What about a little "critical" thinking on yourself FIRST- on that SECRET TERROR organisation - that we in Europe consider the most criminal MAFIA, that ever walked the surface of this planet . . . ?
To me you don't look like your "missing" any OT levels - it feels like you've got a lot - but were given FALSE tech estimates. (You can't build a skyscraper on a shaky ground) So find out WHERE you are at - looks like much higher than you were told . . . Does that make sense to you?I would love to get a new tech estimate in order to safeguard my Eternity.
A "NEW" tech estimate sounds ALARM to me - as it implies, there have been "OLD" tech estimates . . . ?
WHEN were you born this life? Have you ever been checked for any PAST LIFE DIANETICS, or PAST LIFE SCIENTOLOGY ?
Also, my petition to get an INVITATION for Ron's OT levels keeps getting rejected---but if you know someone up-lines, perhaps you can put a good word in for me?
Yes, I can. I've done a complete case analysis and think you could useif you can help me, I'll appreciate that also!

You sure do make a lot of assumptions.
me: Thats right, if I understand the word assumption like "summing up" I try to grasp the "sum" of it - and from there to move backwards - to find the CAUSE for that "sum" we're talking about - does that make sense?
My time-track 1975 - 2007 Class V. Listened to almost every lecture available as well, including the entire SHSBC.
me: GREAT! But WHERE did you get your training? The TECH startet to be HEAVILY CORRUPTED in 1972. A great
me: help would be for you - on these exact details of intentionally corrupted tech - a guy by the name of Andreas
me: Grosz of Switzerland. Gooogle for "Free Scientologists" or "freie Scientologen, Andreas Gross or Grosz - HE did
me: incredible work on searching & finding MISSING data that were declared "old" and DELETED, STOLEN,
me: MISSNAMED, MISSPLACED and FALSE data of all colours ADDED - to screw up the results . . .
I knew a few that had done the 'old' levels. None claimed to be OT nor ever gave reason to believe they were anything but normal human beings.
me: "old" & REAL OT's were calm & cool like JESUS from NAZARETH - and light like a feather . . .
I'm quite well versed with the term exteriorization.
me: have YOU ever left YOUR body with or without full perception . . . ?
I never said the CIA was an ethical organization. You claim Swan, et al were traitors and CIA agents. I've read Ingo's and others accounts of what they were doing. Ingo dismissed that the OT levels had done anything to assist his RV talents. I suppose that holds no water with you since you consider him a traitor.
me: Puthoff, Swann & Pat Price were paid an original 20 Mio$ - much more than JUDAS 2020 years ago . . .
me: what I've learned from the criminal business model in the US - people have to sell their SOUL . . .
me: it's called a "NON DISCLOSURE AGREEMENT" which is a gigantic FAKE, which turns the entire US
me: into a SECRET SOCIETY (that is what John. F. Kennedy declared to end - as it does NOT go with "democracy"
me: THAT is why the CIA killed Kennedy in 1963 - when the REAL downfall of the US began - and these criminals me: from that CIA have NOT EVER COME CLEAN until today . . .
me: SO IT IS NOT THREE (3) TRAITORS - it is an entire nation, that has embarked on a highway to hell . . .
How about you tell us about your OT skill set?
me: I have NOT had any desire for OT-skills - as I was born with the ability to operate outside my body
me: I desired to become an AUDITOR to help others, as it is "lonely at the top" (Randy Newman song)
me: it was after I had been STOPPED from becoming an Auditor and thrown out of the church - an "old OT VII"
me: while sitting next to him in his Porsche, and my other friend looking into the car at a stop, where they slow
me: down cars in France, and asked me: "HOW is that, driving in a Porsche?" "Kalle is not riding IN the Porsche - he
me: is a mile ahead!" the "old OT VII" answered. It took me an eternity to understand what that meant: The "old
me: OTVII" had perceived, that I had been "way ahead" for security-reasons: being exterior most of the good times, me: racing across beautifull southern France, until they made me interiorise by that strange conversation, that I did
me: not understand at the time, as "exterior" felt natural, and the OT-levels never had any attraction for me . . .
Did you do the OT levels?
me: no
What training?
me: TR O the hard way ( 2h without blinking) until unstoppable line charge made both of us EXPLODE in an eternal
me: spell of laughter
Can you or are you exterior at will with full perception?
me: This is fragile - as it "happened" not in AUDITING, no verification, no affirmation, just tons of INVALIDATION
me: And I am a proud WORDCLEARER who served "the greatest win ever" to an old Seaorg-Lady that
me: was supposed to leave on a mission from Cop to Stockholm or Malmö that very night, when CO FOLO EU
me: Hokan Johansen "gave" me 20 minutes to wordclear 10 pounds of data . . .
me: It was the first & the last time - I had the right to wordclear anyone - as the lady ended with a floating TA . . .
When did you get involved?
me: to my best knowledge I was one of many guinea pigs in my past life for LRH, and my "case" is one of the many
me: from DMSMH-research and died in 1947 in great shape, and came back in great shape, and could not stop
me: laughing LOUD & HARD, when I realized all this during real HARD TR 0 at Flag, which had the Course Sup
me: Chuck Murray go completely crazy & berserk - calling my unstoppable LINECHARGE LAUGHTER "glee of
me: insanity", as he was convinced that I had an M/U . . . ???
me:"glee" is defined as "embarrassed giggling"- just the OPPOSITE to linecharge . . .
me: So this win of mine was a kind of a bridge into my past life and into death being pure enthusiasm . . .
me: if THAT is not a freason for laughter . . . ?
When did you become an ex-CO$er?
me: The moment I rehabbed my past life exterior condition on TR 0 at FLAG in 1976 with "LINECHARGE" - I was shot
me: by some criminal ethics officers, that had just been photographed for the Volunteer Ministers Handbook, so
me: those squirrels paid by the CIA are easy to be identified, when finally the BIG cleanup in the CoS begins . . .
me: EVER since that day it was a COVERT war to destroy Scientology for example blackmailing my younger brother,
me: who is a german medical doctor and a "new" OT VII and at the same time scared shitless and OUT ETHICS and a
me: general MISERY, as everything around him is breaking down. In 2004 I discovered by chance, that FLAG & my
me: criminal brother had be SQUIRRELING with CONFIDENTIAL "knowledge reports". THAT IS "NORMAL" IN THE
me: CIA - but it does NOT exist in Scxientology - so I know HOW the CIA operates, to destroy the real TECH.
me: THEY have cancelled the good old standard "KR" - which is a DEADLY terrorist attack on ANY group!
me: This is the simple but mighty trick - how PSYCHOPATHS like David Miscavige - can & do destroy Scientology!
me: Anyone may ACCUSE anyone of anything - BUT THE ACCUSED HAS TO BE GIVEN A COPY - everything else is
me: SQUIRREL & REGARDED AS A CRIMINAL OFFENCE, and ethics should investigate ONLY the accuser . . .
me: THIS HAS BEEN TOTALLY UPSIDE DOWN EVER SINCE I WAS AT FLAG IN 1976.
me: My logical explanation is an UNDERCOVER overwhelm by the CIA - starting 1950 & succeeding in 1972.
Yes, I can.
Hi there in Stockholm - you just demonstrated your OT-abilities to me!
One of the best moments in time - ever - was ABBA & Dancing Queen, when I was in Copenhagen in 1976 -
so I stop writing and start dancing right now . . .
Don' be offended - the real ABBA-Original recording sounds even better in my ears - is THAT being old . . . ?
Thank you for that GREAT pleasure - as I VALUE your fantastic intention!
Hello HelluvaHoax! looks like you carry a hell of a lot of charge around with you - can I help you?
YES Mister Hoax,I could be mistaken, but in the '60s did you work in the field of weapons development?
Uh, most of us dropped scientology speech . . . I mean you do want to keep a good level of ARC with anyone you're disseminating to, don't you?
WHY don't YOU walk YOUR talk?
I know that free speech has ended a long time ago in America - but I am a German - and we love freedom.
I normally do NOT use any words from Scientology - as people are scared - and I have been STOPPED from entering any Scientology Church, as Scientology is run & controlled by covert criminals from the CIA.
But HERE are some nice people who have suffered from the same CIA-CRIMES as me - so if I call it "marmelade" or "honey" - it won't help to clear up confusions from that SECRET WAR, that has been lasting for 48 years now . . .
Here in America, we have a weird concept called "innocent until proven guilty". You have no proof of ANYTHING so "he's guilty". Your total lack of any proof makes him "guilty". Nice.There's a difference between being guilty and not being given full trust. I think you have missed this distinction that I make.


Yeah I should have perhaps been more precise: I meant mostly the coverups of physical and sexual abuse, as well as OSA tactics aimed at disrupting ex-members and critics.Mike has done quite a bit of revealing. I've followed him since he 1st began speaking out.
OSA's exploits have had extensive coverage, from Snow White to Lisa McPherson to the fair-gaming of Mike, Marty, Amy Scobee, Mark Hedley, Jeff Hawkins, Tom DeVocht, etc.
Feel free to fire away with any questions.Given your position in Cont Invest, I think you could tell us quite a bit about the goings on that you have not yet written about.
So, one could ask, "Why isn't Karakorum being more forthcoming with what she knows? What is she hiding? Can we trust her?"
Oh not at all, I never claimed to be a nice person nor a "tame ethics officer". I've been a cult enforcer for part of my time on staff and all of my time in the SO.How many people did you give a face-ripping? How many did you send to the RPF? Or the decks? Let's here some dirt.
You're not going to tell us that you were a nice angelic MAA that only tried to help get your people's dynamics back in order with helpful selected readings from the works of Hubbard are you?
Are you on LSD, do you have halucinations - from WHERE do you receive what "appears" in your universe?It appears that you are still a believer in Hubbard's "tech".