TOP SUPER-STUPID MOMENTS IN SCIENTOLOGY (PART V)

[programmer_guy]

Are you trying to say that after a lifetime of paying into it, which is the only way one is eligible to collect in retirement, that when you're collecting your money you're now dependent upon the government?

Yes.
Social Security is not the same as, say, investing in an S&P 500 Index account for many years.
Your Social Security payments go to other people while you are still employed.
If you were investing in an S&P 500 Index account for many years those payments go to no one else.
Social Security is one item of socialism.
(No, I am not a U.S. political party Democrat. )

 

[guanoloco]

Yes.
Social Security is not the same as, say, investing in an S&P 500 Index account for many years.
Your Social Security payments go to other people while you are still employed.
If you were investing in an S&P 500 Index account for many years those payments go to no one else.
Social Security is one item of socialism.
(No, I am not a U.S. political party Democrat. )

Flunk

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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Scientology Charlatans Sell Snake Oil
To the Naive, Gullible, Desperate & Credulous
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(wiki): A charlatan (also called a swindler or mountebank) is a person practicing quackery or some similar confidence trick or deception in order to obtain money, fame, or other advantages via some form of pretense or deception. Synonyms for charlatan include shyster, quack, or faker. Mountebank comes from the Italian montambanco or montimbanco based on the phrase monta in banco – literally referring to the action of a seller of dubious medicines getting up on a bench to address his audience of potential customers.[1] Quack is a reference to quackery or the practice of dubious medicine, including the sale of snake oil, or a person who does not have actual medical training who purports to provide medical services.​

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(wiki): Snake oil is a euphemism for deceptive marketing, health care fraud, or a scam. Similarly, “snake oil salesman“ is a common expression used to describe someone who deceives people in order to get money from them.[1] The terms derive their meaning from the petroleum-based mineral oil or "snake oil" that used to be sold as a cure-all elixir for many kinds of physiological problems. ​

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EXAMPLE: A couple years after the 1950 dazzle and cash-flow from Dianetics began to fizzle and fade, Hubbard reinvented a newer and better subject---Scientology. And with it Hubbard's miraculous claims & cures immediately rocketed out of the earth's gravitational field with promises to "Heal The Lame" and "Cure the Blind". Let's use that as just one of several hundred medical claims Hubbard made. ​

• First Hubbard claimed that HE had been blinded in World War II and that he cured his own blindness (with engram running).​
• Of course Hubbard could not cure the blind but since he obviously was able to see, people assumed it was a miracle.​
• Never satisfied Hubbard then started charging new Scientologists for lectures and auditing actions that would fix their vision so they never had to wear glasses again. He posted a sign outside of his lecture next to a large container that instructed attendees to literally take off their glasses and place them inside. The sign read as follows: ​

"You are only three or four hours
from taking your glasses off for keeps!"

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Nobody that attended that event had their eyesight improve. But that wasn't important to Hubbard, because the purpose of the ridiculous claim was to get people to pay and go inside the auditorium. Once they were inside, mission accomplished. And Hubbard knew that he could simply make up other outrageous claims every time he needed or wanted to shake down his marks for their hard earned cash.

"Doctor" Hubbard, a degenerate and pathological liar, quite easily could invent electrifying claims to bring carnival customers into his big tent of metaphysical attractions. Just to make the point, here are a few of Hubbard's famously failed claims that people paid money for: (listing linked here)

Heal anyone's body
HCO BULLETIN OF 24 APRIL 1969RA
REVISED 20 SEPTEMBER 1978
"The basic use of Dianetics is to make a well body
and to augment physical treatment."

Cure retardation
"Whole classes of "mentally retarded" children have been made
more normal by teachers in London County Council schools using
relatively unskilled Dianetics. "

Cure goiter
DIANETICS TODAY (1975 ED.) P.280
"I've seen a goiter the size of a baseball visibly shrink and
disappear in the space of one-half hour right after an engram
was run."

Cure polio
DIANETICS TODAY " P. 353
"A girl crippled by polio was able to throw away her crutches after my first session."

Cure arthritis
History of Man p. 7
"Today, Eleanor has arthritis. She is audited... tonight she doesn't have arthritis"

Speed broke bone healing
DIANETICS TODAY " P.110
"A broken limb will heal (by X-ray evidence) in two instead of six weeks."

Cure effects of drugs
DIANETICS TODAY " P.481
"ONLY processing by Dianetics and Scientology can handle the
effects of drugs fully."

Raise the dead
Magazine Articles on Level 0
Checksheet 1968, "Dissemination of Material" p.75
"A child had died, was dead, had been pronounced dead by a doctor,
and the auditor, by calling the thetan back and ordering him to
take over the body again brought the child to life."

Cure migraines
DIANETICS " P.125
also see HCOB 15 Jan. '79 "Handling with Auditing"

Cure cancer
THE HISTORY OF MAN (1961) P. 20
"Cancer has been eradicated by auditing out conception and mitosis."

Cure skin cancer
ALL ABOUT RADIATION (1979 ED.) P.114

Cure radiation sickness
ALL ABOUT RADIATION " P.109
also PAB no. 82 "Scientology is the only specific (cure)
for radiation (atomic bomb) burns."

Cure insanity
HCOB 28 Nov. '70 "Psychosis" "The alleviation of the condition
of insanity has also been accomplished now..."

Cure bronchitis
HCOB 14 Dec. '63 "Case analysis Health Research"
"12 days after this auditing the coughing was still in abeyance."

cure brainwashing
HCOB No. 19 Dec. '55 "The turn of the Tide"
"... in Dianetics in particular, we have the total antidote for
the eradication of brainwashing."

Assorted Medical Claims
"ARTHRITIS vanishes, MYOPIA gets better, HEART DISEASE
decreases, ASTHMA disappears, STOMACH functions properly. . .
DIANETICS (1987 ED.) p.72
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CONCLUSION: Scientology can apparently cure any physical or mental illness. Anyone notice that Hubbard never claimed to cure stupidity? lol

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[HelluvaHoax!]

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AXIOM: Scientologists believe that if they don't clear every single word, they are doomed to blow and lose their eternity.

PARADOX: However, if you fully clear a Scientologist on the word "cult" they will also blow.

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[HelluvaHoax!]

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One has to begrudgingly admire the tortured rhetorical rigors of
Academics and Religious Scholars attempting to describe Scientology
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Personally, I prefer to get such information by driving over to New Jersey and simply asking some thugs hanging out on a street-corner with their mafiosi buddies: "Yo, can any of youze tell me what Scientology is?"

GREASER IN WHITE WIFE-BEATER
Scientology? Whoaaaaaaa! Itsa fuckin' scam, fuggedaboudit!!!​

Yeah, a 6 word doctoral thesis. I didn't even need to take out my demo kit.

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[HelluvaHoax!]

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We are extremely pleased to announce that two (2) of
L. Don Hubbard's self-help books have risen to the
very top of the NY Times BESTSELLERS list!
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1. The Modern Science of Mental Cults​

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2. The Fundamentals of Fugazi​

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3. - - - ​

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(excerpt): ​

"Scientologists by whatever reasons of naïveté, gullibility or stupidity bought a load of bunk they were​

fed by the pathologically lying bunco artist L. Ron Hubbard. Sooner or later cult members must go to​

the dianetic dentist to have the bunk extracted, so I say "Let's get this de-bunking party started!" And, ​

I'm not likely to say anything nice about Hubbard's hoax any more than I would take time to compliment​

someone's Ferrari after they just crashed it into a tree at 170 mph and are still trapped inside in a coma."​

- L. Don Hubbard (cv below)​

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[Dotey OT]

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Dear Brothers & Sisters on the Stupid Thread:

There is very good news to share! We have just received a super-theta message and new breakthrough technology from the Church Of Hoaxology's Founder, L. Don Hubbard!

While reading the following scripture, in order to ensure full conceptual understanding, kindly remember to use batteries and paperclips.

HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex

HCO POLICY LETTER OF 13 MARCH 2021​

Remimeo
Students
Assoc/Org Sec Hat
HCO Sec Hat
Case Sup Hat
Ds of P Hat
Ds of T Hat
Staff Member Hat
Missions

ALL LEVELS

K S W
"Keeping Stupid Working"

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We have on this Stupid Thread, some time since passed the point of achieving uniformly workable de-hoaxing technology.​

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The only thing now is getting the technology applied.​

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If you can’t get the de-hoax technology applied then you can’t deliver what’s promised. It’s as simple as that. If you can get the technology applied you can deliver what’s promised.​

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The only thing you can be upbraided for by the Stupid Thread's curator (Don Hubbard) is posting cool things that would be better routed to the political discussion threads. Trouble spots occur only where there are non-stupid Scientology moments on the "Super Stupid Moments In Scientology" thread. Attacks from governments or monopolies occur only when political debate becomes a buzz kill to joking & degrading about Hubbard's dumb hoax. ​

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Therefore the road before Hoaxology is clear and its ultimate success is assured if the stupid technology is allowed to remain stupid!​

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We’re not playing some minor game on the Stupid Scientology thread. It isn’t cute or something to do for lack of something better.​

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The whole agonized future of this discussion board, every man, woman and child on it, and your own destiny for the next endless trillions of years depend on what you do here and now with the Stupid Scientology thread. ​

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This is a deadly serious activity. And if we miss getting out of the political debates now, we may never again have another chance.​

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Remember, this is our first chance to do so in all the endless trillions of years of the past. Don’t muff it now because it seems unpleasant or unsocial to do. ​

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Do this and we’ll win.​

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L. DON HUBBARD​

Founder​

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Well Hello!! I'm a sucky a sock sec with sucky stats.

I got a chance to read this after I stopped nervously overcompensating the tonearm, Whew.

So there are some sluggards debating politics on the Stupid Thread?? I will turn them inside out with my sleeves rolled up.

Have we sufficiently steeled ourselves against any group ideas? Ok, good.

Now I will go back to advancing degraded novels.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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from another thread, an outstanding "open letter"
to those within the cult's gravitational force field
still chasing the magical dream of Clear & OT

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Let me butt in here . . .

I did the entire bridge to OT7 over a span of fifteen years and was a highly trained auditor.
I've read and listened to more books and tapes than anyone I've ever met, AFAIK.

I looked around at every OT and auditor/CS (up to Class8) I knew, or peripherally knew of,
and I concluded some things from brutal and honest observation.

There little or no difference between Clears/OTs and unprocessed wogs in many areas of life,
including, but not limited to:

• Cheating on spouses
• Divorces
• Financial crimes and dishonesty with money
• Not paying back money owed
• Sexual problems (even at the highest OT levels)
• Chronic depression (even at the highest OT levels)
• Early death from preventable diseases
• Bankruptcy
• Suicide rate
• Cancer rate
• Common illness rate
• General happiness in life
• Self worth and personal outlook on life
• And more . . .

What, I ask, is the point then?

I never met an OT with the OT abilities that were promised by Hubbard. And I've questioned quite a few.
I don't have them and I've done all the stuff.

I contacted over a half a dozen upper-level, ex-SO CSes and asked if they had ever created a real OT.
Their answers were all: NO! Seems like most people were struggling with lower level "wog" problems,
even at the highest levels, including stuff off the above list.

Though in my prime, I was one of the truest of true believers and very gullible, I guess, in the end I couldn't
ignore the reality staring at me every day. The pretending was all good while it lasted. I only wish I knew then,
what I know now.

I was young enough to leave early and create a "version 2.0" of my life and am doing OK as I'm aging.

I hope you're not as disappointed down the road someday as I was, if you end up spending decades of your
youth on this journey. It's a pretty rough moment to fully "grok" the truth of it all at the end. No one deserves
to suffer the "dark night of the soul" that's inevitable on this particular path, IMO.

I wish you the best.

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Excellent and gracious!

In my encounters with Scientologists, I sometimes wonder why they cannot test their most fundamental BELIEFS in the real world without quickly realizing that Hubbard was a pathological liar. Well, that's all part of the fun of diving head-first into a cult and then much later trying to figure out why the hell one did that (and also how to best escape!).

example: Hubbard claims that "Scientology is the only game in the universe where everyone wins!"

First, it's worth noting that's an exponential generality, raised to the 3rd power! LOL. But let's move on. . .

Another problem. Hubbard did not travel throughout the entire universe, so right there "everyone" should have realized he is lying and thereupon instantly packed their hobo shoulder sack and hit the road*.

Next, Hubbard claims it's the "only" game of its kind. I don't know how fast Hubbard's Bluebird motorhome could go, but just the observable part of the physical universe is 46.5 billion light years across, so I am just guessing that during Ron's excellent road trip across the cosmos, he might have missed a couple towns.

Finally, the pièce de résistance! Everyone wins. Everyone. LOL. Scientologists are big on "stats", so let's take a peek at how the graph looks.

Of 100% of the Homo Sapiens that enter a Scientology
center and buy any course or auditing. . .

0% attain Homo Novis ("Clear").
0% attain Operating Thetan.
98% eventually blow.

98% lose their time and their money,
if not also their family, friends, job & mental health.

But there is Hubbard, claiming that 100% ("everyone") wins.

Who are you going to believe,
Ron or your lying reactive mind?

* Hobonetics practitioner running
(re)locational process on self. ​

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[HelluvaHoax!]

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As long as we are on the subject of ZERO PERCENT (0%) of Scientologists reaching the states they paid for, let's put something on the record:

SCIENTOLOGY SELLS ONLY TWO (2) THINGS

The state of DEMIGOD.

The state of GOD.
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When you walk into a Scientology store anywhere in the world, those are the only two things on their shelves.

You can walk up and down every aisle of that store and the innumerable cereal boxes may look different but that is all they sell, just two (2) types of flakes:

1. CLEAR FLAKES (Demigod, Homo Novis, et al): A Demigod is defined as: "... a being with partial or lesser divine status, such as a minor deity, the offspring of a god and a mortal or a mortal raised to divine rank."​

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2. OT FLAKES (God, Supreme Being, et al) At this advanced level a Scientologist has achieved supreme Godlike powers as well as "Total Freedom". A Scientology OT can do anything imaginable including "miracles beyond anyone's belief or imagination!" There are two very minor exceptions or slight limitations on an OT's unlimited powers. They are not permitted to use any of their God powers when anyone is around. And, they are not permitted to use their Total Freedom to leave Scientology and talk about their experience.​

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[HelluvaHoax!]

cross-posted from another thread.
The following post can make anyone
seriously doubt whether the Scientologists
are really trying to "Clear the Planet" or
if they are actually trying to do something else.

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Posted by ILove2Lurk

"I'll not always be here on guard. The stars twinkle in the Milky Way
and the wind sighs for songs across the empty fields of a planet
a Galaxy away. You won't always be here. But before you go,
whisper this to your sons and their sons--
'The work was free. Keep it so'."
-L. Ron Hubbard

Biggest indicator -- "tell" -- of the false narrative of scientology, which I worked out for myself after I left for good . . .

From the early 50's and beyond, Hubbard made so many claims that his work was an actual science and his main objective was to give it to every man, woman and child on the planet for their road to freedom. These claims were made pre-Internet, of course.

Today, all the books, lectures and other materials could be put on a server connected to the Internet and distributed freely to every man, woman and child on the planet. The cost would probably be under $250K for the hardware and software. Much cheaper than running the ScTV on cable for a year.

Why not give this ultimate science of the mind and universe -- all the books, tapes and source materials -- to all mankind? They're translated in every language and digitized, ready for downloading.

This is the biggest and most obvious "out-point" ever, considering the digital technology available to everybody on the planet.

The truth of the matter is scientology is about monetization, always and forever.

And not being too broadly and closely inspected.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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[HelluvaHoax!]

cross-posted from another thread.
The following post can make anyone
seriously doubt whether the Scientologists
are really trying to "Clear the Planet" or
if they are actually trying to do something else.

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Posted by ILove2Lurk

"I'll not always be here on guard. The stars twinkle in the Milky Way
and the wind sighs for songs across the empty fields of a planet
a Galaxy away. You won't always be here. But before you go,
whisper this to your sons and their sons--
'The work was free. Keep it so'."
-L. Ron Hubbard

Biggest indicator -- "tell" -- of the false narrative of scientology, which I worked out for myself after I left for good . . .

From the early 50's and beyond, Hubbard made so many claims that his work was an actual science and his main objective was to give it to every man, woman and child on the planet for their road to freedom. These claims were made pre-Internet, of course.

Today, all the books, lectures and other materials could be put on a server connected to the Internet and distributed freely to every man, woman and child on the planet. The cost would probably be under $250K for the hardware and software. Much cheaper than running the ScTV on cable for a year.

Why not give this ultimate science of the mind and universe -- all the books, tapes and source materials -- to all mankind? They're translated in every language and digitized, ready for downloading.

This is the biggest and most obvious "out-point" ever, considering the digital technology available to everybody on the planet.

The truth of the matter is scientology is about monetization, always and forever.

And not being too broadly and closely inspected.

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Terrific post (above) by ILove2Lurk---and very thought provoking! Particularly this part:

"Why not give this ultimate science of the mind and universe -- all the books, tapes and source materials -- to all mankind? They're translated in every language and digitized, ready for downloading. This is the biggest and most obvious "out-point" ever, considering the digital technology available to everybody on the planet."​

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Talk about plot twists and surprise endings! All Scientologists do, essentially is try to "CLEAR THE PLANET" but they refuse to give Ron's tech to the planet. As you said, it's all digitalized so they could give it away for free this year to 7.4 billion people around the world. Their "shore story" (propaganda lie) is that:

IF YOU GIVE AWAY RON'S PRICELESS TECH FOR FREE,
THE RECIPIENT WILL BECOME A CRIMINAL BECAUSE OF
THE "OUT EXCHANGE" OF NOT PAYING FOR IT.
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But of course that would not happen. It's just one of those scary "ghost stories" that Scientologists tell each other when they don't know the answer to a sane question.

What would actually happen if 7.4 billion people had full access to the Scientology materials, is that some of them (millions probably) would be intrigued enough to want to buy auditing. If those millions came into the orgs and got auditing, Scientology would have the single biggest statistical boom ever.

And if those millions of "paying PCs" got the wins they are supposed to get, they would bring in tens of millions more friends, neighbors and relatives.

But Scientology doesn't want that.

I would guess that the reason that Scientologists don't want that is because they know in their hearts that the tech does not work. Virtually every Scientologist knows that they didn't get ANY of the abilities of a Clear or any of the miraculous powers of an OT. Nobody talks about that in Scientology because they are all sworn to secrecy with some other ghost story of how they will "lose their eternity" if they criticize Hubbard or his tech. There is so much prohibition and inhibition about the glaring fact that the tech doesn't work, that Scientologists often keep that secret from themselves too!

And besides secrets, Scientologists are also trained to lie to others and themselves.

Besides all of the above very minor outpoints, Scientology is a terrific club to belong to! LOL


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[HelluvaHoax!]

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Once in a while a dedicated "Independent Scientologist" ventures onto the Ex-Scn message board. Here is an actual question an Indie asked me yesterday on another thread.

What happened to make you stop being a Scientologist?​

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ANSWER: ... Actually, nothing happened to make me stop being a Scientologist.

EXPLANATION:... That's the problem with Scientology. Nothing happens.

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[ILove2Lurk]

Terrific post (above) by ILove2Lurk---and very thought provoking! < snip for brevity >

Thanks so much for catching the pass mid-field and
running it to the end zone. Pitch-perfect commentary.

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[HelluvaHoax!]

Thanks so much for catching the pass mid-field and
running it to the end zone. Pitch-perfect commentary.

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I forgot the rest of the punchline of why Scientology doesn't want to let the world's 7.4 billion people have their tech (the books, bulletins and audio-tapes) for no cost online.

As I mentioned, some millions of people would become curious and want to buy some auditing to try and attain CLEAR or OT.

Scientologists, in their heart, know or at least fear that the tech doesn't work. So they don't TRUST what will happen if they give Hubbard's words of wisdom away for free. They don't have any confidence that the tech works, or they would rush at the speed of light to give everyone the password to the entire Scn library online.

That, in my opinion, is why Scientology managers would rather gather up some quick bucks in the immediate while the getting's good.

In a very real sense, Scientology management is like low-level mafia thugs who go out and hijack a truck filled with flatscreens or iphones. They can make a quick killing by stealing the "merch" and offloading it to "fences" or at huge discounts thru street people. They do this because they already KNOW that they can't run a business successfully. Most of them didn't go much past the 7th or 8th grade and they can barely read, let alone operate a normal commercial venture. Thus, instead of the long game ( business school, self-discipline and slowly developing a big customer base over time) they opt for the QUICK BUCK of taking down a truckload of swag.

Elite Scn managers know that nobody got any powers and many of them know very well that nobody is going to get any miraculous mojo later either. Thus, their avaricious aggression refuses the brilliant idea of broadly releasing the tech for free and just modeling their finances by selling courses and auditing, which would reap trillions if it worked.

Quick buck artists, that's what I am saying. For anyone who doubts it, simply look at the life and times of L. Ron Hubbard and David Miscavige. Insecure con artists, constantly ripping off their own staff and parishioners like there's no tomorrow.

Yeah, that should do it. LOL

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[HelluvaHoax!]

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"I'll not always be here on guard. The stars twinkle in the Milky Way
and the wind sighs for songs across the empty fields of a planet
a Galaxy away. You won't always be here. But before you go,
whisper this to your sons and their sons--
'The work was free. Keep it so'."
-L. Ron Hubbard

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WAIT!!!

Go back. . .all the way back, to the first sentence.

"I'll not always be here on guard."

L. Ron Hubbard was "on guard"?! LOL!

What exactly was Hubbard "guarding", other than the hundreds of millions of dollars in numbered bank accounts that he defrauded his victims out of?

I must have seen that quote 50-100 times before but never stopped on first few words to ask myself, WTF is he talking about?!

That happens a lot in Scientology. It's one of Hubbard's gimmicks to hydroplane the surface of his rhetoric so everyone just slides thru red traffic lights--without even slowing down to avoid other cars flying thru that intersection from the opposing lanes. Need another example? Sure, here ya go--

"Dianetics the modern science of mental health"

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[ILove2Lurk]

Recently discovered photograph . . .

"Bada bing bada boom"
Circa 1986
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[HelluvaHoax!]

Recently discovered photograph . . .

"Bada bing bada boom"
Circa 1986
View attachment 9986​

LOL!!!

I see they have new costumes!

Isn't this the point in the movie where we need a trusted "friend of ours" to invite them for dinner at Sparks Steakhouse in midtown Manhattan?

ps: I am still wondering if Rathbun had to turn in his slightly used BROWN BLAZER to the cult's costume department or if they let him keep it.

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[Dotey OT]

First, Fermi's Paradox,

The below is from "Fermi's Paradox" entry in Wikipedia:

In the summer of 1950 at Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, Fermi and co-workers Emil Konopinski, Edward Teller, and Herbert York had one or several casual lunchtime conversation(s).[12][22]

Herb York does not remember a previous conversation, although he says it makes sense given how all three later reacted to Fermi's outburst. Teller remembers seven or eight of them at the table, so he may well be remembering a different previous conversation.[12][note 1][note 2]

In one version, the three men discussed a spate of recent UFO reports while walking to lunch. Konopinski remembered mentioning a magazine cartoon which showed aliens stealing New York City trash cans,[23] and as he wrote years later, "More amusing was Fermi's comment, that it was a very reasonable theory since it accounted for two separate phenomena."[12][note 3]

Teller remembered Fermi asking him, "Edward, what do you think? How probable is it that within the next ten years we shall have clear evidence of a material object moving faster than light?" Teller said, "10–6" (one in a million). Fermi said, "This is much too low. The probability is more like ten percent" (which Teller wrote in 1984 was "the well known figure for a Fermi miracle").[12]

At lunch, Fermi suddenly exclaimed, "Where are they?" (Teller's remembrance), or "Don't you ever wonder where everybody is?" (York's remembrance), or "But where is everybody?"

That is a great question, with all these stars, galaxies, where the hell is everyone??


Then, probably the greatest mystery about all this is the simplest point,

Helluva Hoax's paradox,

If Scientology works, where is everybody?

 

[ILove2Lurk]

. . . dinner at Sparks Steakhouse in midtown Manhattan?

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Photo taken around the time they
were filming the movie, Gotti.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

"Bada bing bada boom"
Circa 1986
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IF SAMMY THE BULL GRAVANO & JOHN GOTTI
HAD GOTTEN INTO SCIENTOLOGY


GOTTI
Hey Sammy! Can youze give me a star rate checkout?

SAMMY
What is it?

GOTTI
It's Ron's policy on bookmaking.

SAMMY
Youze mean book selling?

GOTTI
Yeah, whatevah!

SAMMY
Okay so here's the star-rate. What does
Ron say will happen if youze sell a shit-ton of books?

GOTTI
Badda Bing, Badda BOOM!

SAMMY
Yeah, dats close enough. Pass.
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[ For anyone never in Scientology, there is actually church "scripture" (policy) called "BOOKS MAKE BOOMS" ]

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