Restaurant Where DANNY MASTERSON Attacked Women May Lose License - La Poubelle

[L Ron Hubbard]

 

[Karakorum]

This does feel a bit like fair game honestly speaking.

 

[Type4_PTS]

This does feel a bit like fair game honestly speaking.

Yes, it does to me as well.

It seems to be a reaction to the restaurant owner fairgaming the protesters, but it wasn't necessary to respond in kind.

It was good that the restaurant was protested, but it's been weeks now and IMO it would be better for the protesters to redirect their energy to other targets (Scientology and the LAPD).

 

[Karakorum]

It seems to be a reaction to the restaurant owner fairgaming the protesters, but it wasn't necessary to respond in kind.

That's kind of where I'm at too.

Yeah, the owner is an a-hole, she proved it by how she was trying to handle the protests. I would be glad to see her pay a fine or land in court for what happened.

But hearing him talk about how he is gonna do this sort of black-PR-flyer campaign in the AU's neighborhood... It was as if I'm back at the HGB and hearing Pat Hodges talk to me about some OSA op. Not a nice flashback.

 

[TheSneakster]

Yeah, the owner is an a-hole, she proved it by how she was trying to handle the protests. I would be glad to see her pay a fine or land in court for what happened.

The owner is righteously angry that these people are unjustly attempting to destroy her business and livelihood. No evidence has ever been presented that her restaurant had anything at all to do with Danny Masterson's crimes. The entire protest activity there seems to have been based upon some sort of irrational Association Fallacy and/or someone making false reports.

 

[Type4_PTS]

The owner is righteously angry that these people are unjustly attempting to destroy her business and livelihood.

At the beginning of the protest, there was no such attempt to destroy her business. It was just a protest.

She had a right to be angry about it but a line was crossed when patrons were encouraged to mess with the protestors as they did. Had that not happened the protestors would probably have gotten bored and moved on weeks ago.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

At the beginning of the protest, there was no such attempt to destroy her business. It was just a protest.

She had a right to be angry about it but a line was crossed when patrons were encouraged to mess with the protestors as they did. Had that not happened the protestors would probably have gotten bored and moved on weeks ago.

Yeah, that's what happened.

Bad miscalculation to shake a hornets nest--by supporting serial rapist Masterson every day in court, then in a "character reference letter" and even AFTER the conviction and a 30 year to life prison sentence.

Then, compounding the supreme tone deaf arrogance, she repeatedly poked a bear in the eyes by giving a green light to her nasty Hollywood wannabe rock star clientele to harass and even abuse/batter the protesters outside.

Bad idea. Like a Scientology "OT" she mistakenly thought she was "total cause over life", LOL.

Dunning Kruger Effect at work.

Seems that her story is not fully revealed yet. Why is she so adamantly fighting on behalf of a serial rapist? What the hell is wrong with her?!

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[mimsey borogrove]

Personally, I fail to understand why they are harassing her business. Whether an employee of hers spiked the drink or Danny did, the who done it is unknown, so to damn her for something she may not have had a hand in, is beyond the pale.

This is, as mentioned above, LRH fair game tech, and what I hope is not the case, is the creating strife to generate youtube views for the financial rewards.

Mimsey

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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Personally, I fail to understand why they are harassing her business. Whether an employee of hers spiked the drink or Danny did, the who done it is unknown, so to damn her for something she may not have had a hand in, is beyond the pale. This is, as mentioned above, LRH fair game tech, and what I hope is not the case, is the creating strife to generate youtube views for the financial rewards.

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that's not why they are harassing her business. the chatter and chants about how Masterson drugged his victim(s) in the restaurant are just sensational ways to attract attention and get online CLICKS and SUBSCRIBERS.

they went after that location because the owner supported the serial rapist before, during and after the trial.

as others have pointed out, had the restaurant and patrons simply IGNORED them, the protesters would have eventually gone away.

but, instead, they took the bait.

then the owner had to resort to using Scientology's curtain tech. lol

the protestors are both ACTIVISTS and ENTERTAINERS who get paid bundles if they have enough subscribers. So they make a lot of noise. that's how they support themselves. but they also do great work to rectify horrific injustices and corruption within the cult of Scientology, so i give them a pass on all the cringey moments they go overboard. They are fantastic weapons in the fight against the multibillion dollar COS (crimewave of scientology).

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[mimsey borogrove]

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mimsey borogrove said:
"Personally, I fail to understand why they are harassing her business. Whether an employee of hers spiked the drink or Danny did, the who done it is unknown, so to damn her for something she may not have had a hand in, is beyond the pale. This is, as mentioned above, LRH fair game tech, and what I hope is not the case, is the creating strife to generate youtube views for the financial rewards."
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that's not why they are harassing her business. the chatter and chants about how Masterson drugged his victim(s) in the restaurant are just sensational ways to attract attention and get online CLICKS and SUBSCRIBERS.

they went after that location because the owner supported the serial rapist before, during and after the trial.

as others have pointed out, had the restaurant and patrons simply IGNORED them, the protesters would have eventually gone away.

but, instead, they took the bait.

then the owner had to resort to using Scientology's curtain tech. lol

the protestors are both ACTIVISTS and ENTERTAINERS who get paid bundles if they have enough subscribers. So they make a lot of noise. that's how they support themselves. but they also do great work to rectify horrific injustices and corruption within the cult of Scientology, so i give them a pass on all the cringey moments they go overboard. They are fantastic weapons in the fight against the multibillion dollar COS (crimewave of scientology).
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The owner considers Danny to be her friend, which is why she, like so many others, supported him with the letters to the judge. Like any true believer, she doesn't believe he committed those rapes. In that she's like any Scio who believes in Hubbard's tech, despite red flags to the contrary. I don't really care if a person believes in Hubbard's tech or not. I get that mine is not a black or white choice of sides.

I just don't buy into this polarization mantra that is de rigueur these days.

For my money, they can harass the orgs all they want, but people like this restaurant owner etc. should be left alone. I agree, it's for the clicks and the money, as well as the activism aspect. However in harassing her, they are stooping to OSA's subterranean level.

Mimsey

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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The owner considers Danny to be her friend, which is why she, like so many others, supported him with the letters to the judge. Like any true believer, she doesn't believe he committed those rapes. In that she's like any Scio who believes in Hubbard's tech, despite red flags to the contrary. I don't really care if a person believes in Hubbard's tech or not. I get that mine is not a black or white choice of sides.

I just don't buy into this polarization mantra that is de rigueur these days.

For my money, they can harass the orgs all they want, but people like this restaurant owner etc. should be left alone. I agree, it's for the clicks and the money, as well as the activism aspect. However in harassing her, they are stooping to OSA's subterranean level.

Mimsey

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Are the Protestors playing fair? I guess it all comes down to the definition of "war crimes" -- and how all that plays out against the concept of "ALL IS FAIR IN LOVE & WAR".

Scientology has long since declared war on homo sapiens. They have no 'doubts or reservations' about 'tricking and lying' and any other terrorism they feel they can get away with---if it helps them 'make it go right' to serve the 'greatest good for the dynamics'. They will and do resort to any backstabbing treachery and worse that they think might defeat their 'sp enemies' who have been 'implanting' and 'trapping' all beings 'on this planet' for "quadrillions of years'.

The Protesters are new to this epic 'wholetrack' battle for 'total freedom' so they are at a severe disadvantage. They don't have the cult's billions nor do they control armies of fanatical cult zombies, amoral private detectives, crooked attorneys and mercenary thugs that can stalk humans and kill pets. Thus the Protesters are simply trying to level the playing field by ramping up their demonstrations to a fever pitch.

Again, the question is whether the Protesters are breaking any (so-called) international rules of war and committing war crimes. Not really, not so far. They are just trying to stay in the fight, especially after realizing that they can't count on law enforcement to protect their civil rights. They got spun around when they realized that the cops would not only not arrest perpetrators of assault & batteries---they would instead arrest the victim! So, what we are seeing at La Poubelle and other venues is the reaction/counter reaction of escalation.

Sure they're noisy and edgy and sometimes they 'bullbait' people into reacting badly. It's not really a "war crime" but in the grand scheme of things, it's pretty understandable that in an asymmetric war, the underdog fighting a vastly superior enemy is forced into adopting and innovating very unconventional tactics.

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[Reyne Mayer]

I just don't buy into this polarization mantra that is de rigueur these days.

it's just a different version of things like scn Homo Novis versus the 'wogs' and SPs that was de rigeur -- and justified things like what was done to Paulette Cooper -- in your days in the cult, right?

 

[Karakorum]

The owner is righteously angry that these people are unjustly attempting to destroy her business and livelihood. No evidence has ever been presented that her restaurant had anything at all to do with Danny Masterson's crimes.

Well, the court established that Masterson used this venue for one of the druggings.
Then the owner gave a character statement in support of Masterson after he was already convicted but before sentencing. What she did was legal, but the fact remains that she oficially was supporting a convicted serial rapist.

Whether the owner knew about the drugging before the court case and if she condoned it before - we do not know. But she did legally and oficially support Masteron after the sentencing when she knew that he was a serial rapist.

Now whether this is sufficient cause to have the venue protested this way? That's a fair question and opinions can differ. But the venue was in fact involved in his crimes.


You know my opinion: I feel like people had teh right to protest her and the venue, but I feel that by now it has gone too far. Seems to be taking the focus away from scientology itself. And teh black-PR flyer and poster campaign feels like something OSA would do. That's way out of line in my book.

I'm not in any way shape or form in charge of the protests, just giving my personal opinion..

 

[mimsey borogrove]

it's just a different version of things like scn Homo Novis versus the 'wogs' and SPs that was de rigeur -- and justified things like what was done to Paulette Cooper -- in your days in the cult, right?

When I was on lines, I didn't go looking for "entheta" news etc. But if it popped up in a news paper etc. I'd read it. My justification was that it wasn't my problem OSA failed to do their job. I didn't have this "if they're not with us, they're against us" attitude. I just didn't pay a lot of attention to the entheta stories. When I was on lines at flag some people I knew were discussing Anonymous and that Lilly was paying them $50. I was clueless about the protests, or why we were made to bus to the Ft. Harrison rather than walk there from the Sand Castle.

I would say however, they MAA started coming down harder on this entheta.

I was stuck on the purif at flag despite having done it previously, for some 80 days. I had emailed an OT friend and mentioned that. Her son was reading her email and posted that factoid on the net. My wife and I got dragged into ethics, and after being told about what was going on (in minimal detail) we had to buy an intensive of sec checking each, and were sent off to get it and couldn't do much else till complete.

So, yes, some were rabid on the subject, others lax, but the climate got worse as time went on, not better.

Mimsey

 

[mimsey borogrove]

Well, the court established that Masterson used this venue for one of the druggings.
Then the owner gave a character statement in support of Masterson after he was already convicted but before sentencing. What she did was legal, but the fact remains that she oficially was supporting a convicted serial rapist.

Whether the owner knew about the drugging before the court case and if she condoned it before - we do not know. But she did legally and oficially support Masteron after the sentencing when she knew that he was a serial rapist.

Now whether this is sufficient cause to have the venue protested this way? That's a fair question and opinions can differ. But the venue was in fact involved in his crimes.


You know my opinion: I feel like people had teh right to protest her and the venue, but I feel that by now it has gone too far. Seems to be taking the focus away from scientology itself. And teh black-PR flyer and poster campaign feels like something OSA would do. That's way out of line in my book.

I'm not in any way shape or form in charge of the protests, just giving my personal opinion..

False flag operation?

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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When I was on lines, I didn't go looking for "entheta" news etc. But if it popped up in a news paper etc. I'd read it. My justification was that it wasn't my problem OSA failed to do their job. I didn't have this "if they're not with us, they're against us" attitude. I just didn't pay a lot of attention to the entheta stories. When I was on lines at flag some people I knew were discussing Anonymous and that Lilly was paying them $50. I was clueless about the protests, or why we were made to bus to the Ft. Harrison rather than walk there from the Sand Castle.

I think I may have figured out why advanced upper level OTs (with supernatural
powers!) were ordered to take the bus for such an incredibly short distance.

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familiar with politically incorrect, wickedly humorous slang. [wiki: short bus]


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[Karakorum]

False flag operation?

I do not want to speculate if anyone is an OSA agent without concrete evidence.

But I could see how OSA would want to nudge the protesters in that direction and promote that behavior: "Yeah, go pester a restaurant instead of an actual Scientology org. Also go spend money and effort on it, rather than on something directly attacking scientology".

I once wrote a thread about OSA false flag personas, the way I remember them.

Let me quote a particular part of that:

The white elephant herder. A persona designed to draw confidence, sympathy and trust. This persona will then advocate certain ideas or projects (the "white elephant") that on first glance seem like real good ways to strike at the cult, but in reality are harmless. They will nevertheless draw the money, attention, time and effort of critics. The more real critics that pick up this project, the better for the cult.

I feel it might perhaps be a case of this sort of action.

Now, I'm NOT claiming that DOA or any other person is an OSA agent. I'm just saying that the end result looks like something that OSA would possibly be interested in conjuring up.

 

[Isaac]

I do not want to speculate if anyone is an OSA agent without concrete evidence.

But I could see how OSA would want to nudge the protesters in that direction and promote that behavior: "Yeah, go pester a restaurant instead of an actual Scientology org. Also go spend money and effort on it, rather than on something directly attacking scientology".

I once wrote a thread about OSA false flag personas, the way I remember them.

Let me quote a particular part of that:

I feel it might perhaps be a case of this sort of action.

Now, I'm NOT claiming that DOA or any other person is an OSA agent. I'm just saying that the end result looks like something that OSA would possibly be interested in conjuring up.

Good points
I personally think the protestors are there at La Poo Smell because they have people to engage with
where Scientology locations are morgues…. No one to play with

 

[Karakorum]

Good points
I personally think the protestors are there at La Poo Smell because they have people to engage with
where Scientology locations are morgues…. No one to play with

That's very likely the initial reason. But I wouldn't be surprised if after seeing this, OSA then tried that angle: started making sure that the patrons at LP became more confrontational than the CoS people and that events at LP became more exciting and better stream content.
Also, they might have researched peopl;e like DOA, then make sure his buttons get pushed at LP, not at the org.

Cause diverting the critic energy and money away from the church and towards another direction? That sounds exactly like something Pat would do. He did that way back when south park happened.

 

[Isaac]

That's very likely the initial reason. But I wouldn't be surprised if after seeing this, OSA then tried that angle: started making sure that the patrons at LP became more confrontational than the CoS people and that events at LP became more exciting and better stream content.
Also, they might have researched peopl;e like DOA, then make sure his buttons get pushed at LP, not at the org.

Cause diverting the critic energy and money away from the church and towards another direction? That sounds exactly like something Pat would do. He did that way back when south park happened.

That may be the case and work for a while...but remember....Hollywood Test center has been shut down..... as soon as they are open and out on the streets trying to recruit - the protestors will be back.
I believe the days of recruiting people off the street are over for Scientology
They simply can't confront and shatter the truth from being told about the criminal human trafficking cult that they are

Do you think Twila, Sebastian and the other Sea Org staff from the Hollywood Test
Center are in the Hole / RPF being punished for "pulling it in" ?