Independent Field Ethics Report on Andy Nolch in Jail for Drugs

[He-man]

LOL. How am I going to stop the Scientology lingo if the purpose of this sub forum is "Freezone, Indy, and Other Flavors of Scientology"?

Andy's prision facts are a topic for the forum. More so his ethics action in Freezone, Indie and Other Flavors of Scientology.

Well, just take it on a gradient and try and remember how things are said in English rather then in made up Scientology slang.

Make things go right and all that jazz. I'm sure you can do it.

 

[Irayam]

Having lost three teenage friends to mental institutions and death in my youth from psychotropic drugs and four adult friends to alcohol and drugs and another three to painkiller addiction vs. one heavy smoker to cancer, I disagree with your comparison of relative safety. I have lost far, far too many friends to all these vices. No drug or alcohol is safe for anyone who abuses it or develops an addiction. There is no ‘safer than,’ IMO, where addiction is concerned. Very sad. If you only saw what I did, you wouldn’t make such careless statements.

I understand your attitude about drugs. But I maintain that psychedelic drugs (LSD, psilocybin, mescaline) or cannabis (0 to 30,000 deaths per year worldwide) are much less dangerous than legal drugs such as tobacco (8 million deaths per year worldwide) and alcohol (3 million deaths per year worldwide).
Psychedelic drugs are not addictive, cannabis can cause psychic dependence in some people.
I experimented with some psychedelic drugs a few years ago (I don't use them anymore today) and I've been using cannabis for almost 45 years (except for the 10 years I spent in Scientology), so I also have a good experience in this field.
If a person has a tendency to addiction, they will be addicted to whatever product they use.

 

[The Oracle]

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Sorry, but I don't get any of your punchlines on any of your posts.

You are standardly applying and promoting Hubbard's tech---- but at the same time you are mocking Hubbard's tech? That's what you're selling? LOL

Dude. You can't be a "standard tech Scientologist" and simultaneously be a joker and degrader. The game of "Planet Clearer vs SP" doesn't work like that. Didn't you get a standard briefing or r-factor before you were sent here to handle us? LOL

PRO TIP: Pick a side, any side.


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I would imagine an indie can’t pick a side. They are wearing multiple valences to be comfortable in their own skin. They are in a state of confusion which won’t change until they looked at the whole truth.
Can I get auditing in the Indie field I need to run out LRH and Miscavige about the betrayals and lies?
My question to the Indie’s.
I would like to clear up some BPC.
Would an Indie auditor pull my crimes if I brought that up?

 

[Karakorum]

I would imagine an indie can’t pick a side. They are wearing multiple valences to be comfortable in their own skin. They are in a state of confusion which won’t change until they looked at the whole truth.
Can I get auditing in the Indie field I need to run out LRH and Miscavige about the betrayals and lies?
My question to the Indie’s.
I would like to clear up some BPC.
Would an Indie auditor pull my crimes if I brought that up?

You can always try running my amazing gate processes. I'm not sure I qualify as an Indie though,

As for pulling crimes, I'm the utmost expert on that, years of hard-ass experience you-know-where with the biggest gators in this sector of the galaxy swamp. I can pull your crimes so amazingly, that you will spend the rest of your life dazed and confused about what just happened.

Trouble is: I'm not into masochists.

 

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

KSW KULT KOAN

Despite 70 years of Scientologists rabidly using ETHICS TECH
to slam each other's ethics in with investigations, courts of ethics,
committees of evidence, amends projects, non-enturbulation
orders, lower conditions assignments and SP declares------
why doesn't the Ethics Tech even work well enough to at
least prevent Scientologists from defrauding each other
at a mad rate after which 98% of Scientologists blow?





WARNING: SPOILER BELOW





ANSWER
Because the isness is that
there is no "ethics tech".

What there is, is--
finger pointing tech
shaming tech
blaming tech
you're the why tech
You're the who tech
you suck tech
you're suppressive tech
you're a db tech
you're pts tech
you sabotaged mankind tech
you betrayed Ron tech
you're evil tech
you lost your eternity tech
you're a criminal tech
you need to make up the damage tech

The dirty little secret of Scientology ethics tech is
that it is only applied on people LOWER on the command channel.
Scientology ethics tech is never applied to ONESELF and never, never
never applied to anyone HIGHER on the command channel.

This explains why Scientology's 3 greatest C-suite OTs
Commodore, COB & Cruise
not only do not have a "fat ethics folder"
but have no ethics folders at all.

- - -

think about it. . .
In 70 years did anyone ever once see Ron's ethics folder?

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LOL. Your ethics folder must be fat! H H.

 

[Deleted member 51]

He never lasted much at the first ESMB. A misplaced coma and he was "banned forever" and people made a party...

Ah, a McClaughry apologist. Seriously?
Some of the FZ are okay and I don’t have any problems with them, despite the fact I’m a fully out ex.
But McClaughry is a bullshitting fabricator and completely out of his mind. An absolute nutcase. Are you actually in his fan club of 6-8 people, including family? Seriously?

 

[Deleted member 51]

I understand your attitude about drugs. But I maintain that psychedelic drugs (LSD, psilocybin, mescaline) or cannabis (0 to 30,000 deaths per year worldwide) are much less dangerous than legal drugs such as tobacco (8 million deaths per year worldwide) and alcohol (3 million deaths per year worldwide).
Psychedelic drugs are not addictive, cannabis can cause psychic dependence in some people.
I experimented with some psychedelic drugs a few years ago (I don't use them anymore today) and I've been using cannabis for almost 45 years (except for the 10 years I spent in Scientology), so I also have a good experience in this field.
If a person has a tendency to addiction, they will be addicted to whatever product they use.

Your personal genetic and other characteristics are not at all identical to others. When you make broad generalizations for what is safe for a population based on nothing more than your personal experiences, you demonstrate you are ignorant of the vast and broad differences in both human potentiality and human frailty. For example, objective analysis is one of your weakest characteristics.

My mother died of lung cancer. She hadn’t smoked in over 60 years, but despite that, she was counted as a “former smoker” as the cause of lung cancer. Yet lungs completely repair themselves just ten years after quitting. Fucking bullshit manipulated cancer stats. Like the bullshit manipulated COVID stats - the only increase in overall population deaths are from violence. COVID deaths cure deaths of everything else. So do “ex smoker” statistics. Why don’t you stfu. You don’t have any idea what other people go through, what makes them suffer or die. You’re just full of regurgitated media hype.

 

[I told you I was trouble]

I don't know if 'causing a problem' is a crime. But 'stupidity' sure is. As far as I know, andy was on mushrooks and was a 'space cadet' before he came to scientology.

Oh sorry, the correct hubbardy wording may have been 'committing a problem' ... and you and your lot are definitely guilty of that.

At some point Nolch fell out of the stupid tree and hit all the branches on the way down, how come you didn't notice that when you were comrades in arms?

Nolch was apparently still acceptable to you even after he committed his disgusting crime.

 

[Veda]

OF COURSE!

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The Auditor newspaper circa 1968

Well, get to it! Let's see the paperwork.​

 

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

I understand your attitude about drugs. But I maintain that psychedelic drugs (LSD, psilocybin, mescaline) or cannabis (0 to 30,000 deaths per year worldwide) are much less dangerous than legal drugs such as tobacco (8 million deaths per year worldwide) and alcohol (3 million deaths per year worldwide).
Psychedelic drugs are not addictive, cannabis can cause psychic dependence in some people.
I experimented with some psychedelic drugs a few years ago (I don't use them anymore today) and I've been using cannabis for almost 45 years (except for the 10 years I spent in Scientology), so I also have a good experience in this field.
If a person has a tendency to addiction, they will be addicted to whatever product they use.

So, you know that LSD stays with you for life, the experience and the substance. Thank the CIA shrinks for that.

 

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

I would imagine an indie can’t pick a side. They are wearing multiple valences to be comfortable in their own skin. They are in a state of confusion which won’t change until they looked at the whole truth.
Can I get auditing in the Indie field I need to run out LRH and Miscavige about the betrayals and lies?
My question to the Indie’s.
I would like to clear up some BPC.
Would an Indie auditor pull my crimes if I brought that up?

Your incumbent crimes will have to be pulled wether you bring them up or not...

 

[I told you I was trouble]

So, you know that LSD stays with you for life, the experience and the substance. Thank the CIA shrinks for that.

Lol! I'd rather LSD stay with me for life than hubbards evil twaddle.

 

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

Ah, a McClaughry apologist. Seriously?
Some of the FZ are okay and I don’t have any problems with them, despite the fact I’m a fully out ex.
But McClaughry is a bullshitting fabricator and completely out of his mind. An absolute nutcase. Are you actually in his fan club of 6-8 people, including family? Seriously?

Thanks for the evaluation...

 

[ILove2Lurk]

Your ethics folder must be fat!

Can we expect you to start posting the photo memes of yourself
that you post on other websites. I've seen them with my own eyes,
whether I was supposed to or not. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Here's a partial clipping:

WANTED


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[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

Oh sorry, the correct hubbardy wording may have been 'committing a problem' ... and you and your lot are definitely guilty of that.

At some point Nolch fell out of the stupid tree and hit all the branches on the way down, how come you didn't notice that when you were comrades in arms?

Nolch was apparently still acceptable to you even after he committed his disgusting crime.

I demanded he handled ethics when he defaced the memorial. Listened just a bit.

I reported him when he was promoting psychotropic drugs to people. He said I should try them instead...

 

[Veda]

So, you know that LSD stays with you for life, the experience and the substance. Thank the CIA shrinks for that.

A link to a small sampling of Hubbard's bizarre letters to the FBI,
followed by his first mention of LSD.
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[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

Can we expect you to start posting the photo memes of yourself
that you post on other websites. I've seen them with my own eyes,
whether I was supposed to or not. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Here's a partial clipping:

WANTED
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I got banned on Facebook for posting nazi photos... I don't want Google deplatforming me.

 

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

The Auditor newspaper circa 1968

Well, get to it! Let's see the paperwork.​

I already put the list of the offenders...

 

[ILove2Lurk]

I got banned on Facebook for posting nazi photos... I don't want Google deplatforming me.

Can I post your "wanted" poster with your photo? It's not a big deal. It's cute.

You're a handsome man.

 

[I told you I was trouble]

I demanded he handled ethics when he defaced the memorial. Listened just a bit.

I reported him when he was promoting psychotropic drugs to people. He said I should try them instead...

Well and truly prior to all of that he was clearly 'not all there' ... why didn't you notice using your special hubbardy obnosis skills ... most normal people could see it (and hear it) at a glance?