1977 scientologist, in the independent field since 2005.

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

Don't you guys feel just a little bit bad about hijacking this thread? It seems a rude to me. It's like you're thumbing your nose at a new person who introduced himself in the New Person Introduction section.

Photos are always welcome.

 

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

I very much doubt that there is any Pink Floyd song from 'Meddle' onward to which I don't know each and every single word.

The lyrics of "High Hopes"somehow reminds you of the whole track.

 

[Bill]

Free Scientology is a denomination used since the 60's by independent scientologists in Saint Hill UK.

Any scientologist has the duty to wear his Ethics hat. The policy letter "Administration Outside Scientology" instructs you to use scientology ethics, tech and admin in the society. Scientology handles life. Didn't you know?

And yet, every time a Scientologist attempts to use Hubbard's "tech" outside of Scientology, it's an unmitigated disaster.

 

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

And yet, every time a Scientologist attempts to use Hubbard's "tech" outside of Scientology, it's an unmitigated disaster.

If you consider it a disaster the defeat of psychiatry's plan to build gulags in Alaska, or the revelations that the CIA has been doing biochemical experimentation on the US population and now is less prone to do that, or that the IRS has been created to impose communism in the USA, and therefore we have the many petitions to abolish it, then Ok. What is true for you is true for you.

 

[stratty]

Scientology handles life. Didn't you know?

You might believe that matey, but I'm willing to bet not many here are ready to agree with you.

 

[stratty]

The lyrics of "High Hopes"somehow reminds you of the whole track.

What you mean is it reminds you of the whole track. Personally I don't believe in the 'whoe track', and even if I did that's not my interpretation of the song.

 

[Karakorum]

How does it feel to be a follower of a mendacious and narcissistic con man who lied to his followers about his war-record, abused his wives, threatened to kill one of his own children, engaged in satanic rituals, constantly turned against anyone who threatened to steal his limelight, started a fake religion because that was where the money was to be made, invented a make-believe science fiction world complete with evil ruler and convinced people it was real and eventually died in hiding from the police in a Bluebird motorhome with his ass full of Vistaril. You must be so proud of him.

Well, there goes a shot with both barrels.

 

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

What you mean is it reminds you of the whole track. Personally I don't believe in the 'whoe track', and even if I did that's not my interpretation of the song.

Drugs restimulate your whole track incidents. My friends, fans of Led Zepelin or Mr. Waters and such groups, always commented how their music was "Whole Tracky"...

The Pink Floyd piece even ends with the words "Forever and ever".

 

[stratty]

Drugs restimulate your whole track incidents. My friends, fans of Led Zepelin or Mr. Waters and such groups, always commented how their music was "Whole Tracky"...

Bollocks!

 

[Karakorum]

Drugs restimulate your whole track incidents. My friends, fans of Led Zepelin or Mr. Waters and such groups, always commented how their music was "Whole Tracky"...

The Pink Floyd piece even ends with the words "Forever and ever".

Would you consider this to be "Whole Tracky"?

 

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

Well, there goes a shot with both barrels.

I already answered that. You seem to be another member of a society that is ruled by pedophile and child sacrificing commie politicians, currently engaging in reducing the population of what they consider "usles eaters".

 

[Karakorum]

I already answered that. You seem to be another member of a society that is ruled by pedophile and child sacrificing commie politicians, currently engaging in reducing the population of what they consider "usles eaters".

That is a pretty weird comment, especially since you do not even know which society am I a part of or even which continent do I currently inhabit.

So, which one have you meant? China? Iran? Monaco maybe?

 

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

Bollocks!

My friend told me that most groups use drugs to restimulate whole track incidents, for "inspiration". She said that Black Sabbath, though, didn't use drugs to write their songs.

 

[Zertel]

You're the first one to spell the name correctly (without accents). Congratulations.

I was curious about your unfamiliar (to me) name. Anyhow, welcome to ESMBR.

Cuitláhuac
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

This article is about the ruler of Tenochtitlan. For other uses, see Cuitláhuac (disambiguation).

Cuitláhuac (Spanish pronunciation: [kwiˈtɬawak] (listen), modern Nahuatl pronunciation (help·info)) (c. 1476 – 1520)[1] or Cuitláhuac (in Spanish orthography; Nahuatl languages: Cuitlāhuac,[2] Nahuatl pronunciation: [kʷiˈt͡ɬaːwak], honorific form: Cuitlahuatzin) was the 10th tlatoani (ruler) of the Aztec city of Tenochtitlan for 80 days during the year Two Flint (1520).[3] He is credited with leading the Mexica resistance to the Spanish invasion, following the death of his kinsman Moctezuma II.
Biography[edit]
Cuitláhuac was the eleventh son of the ruler Axayacatl and a younger brother of Moctezuma II, the late ruler of Tenochtitlan, who died during the Spanish occupation of the city.[4] His mother's father, also called Cuitlahuac, had been ruler of Iztapalapa,[5] and the younger Cuitláhuac also ruled there initially.[6] Cuitláhuac was an experienced warrior and an adviser to Moctezuma, warning him not to allow the Spaniards to enter Tenochtitlan. Hernán Cortés imprisoned both Moctezuma and Cuitláhuac. Following the massacre of Aztec elites when Cortés was away from Tenochtitlan, the Mexica besieged the Spanish and their indigenous allies. Cuitláhuac was released on the pretense to reopen the market to get food to the invaders. Moctezuma was killed under disputed circumstances, and Cuitláhuac was elected tlatoani following the flight of the Spaniards and their allies from Tenochtitlan on June 30, 1520. Some sources claim he was serving in that role even before Moctezuma's death.[7]
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Also,
Aztec
[ az-tek ]SHOW IPA
noun
a member of a Nahuatl-speaking state in central Mexico that was conquered by Cortés in 1521.

There - I just gave myself a short lesson in world history.

 

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

Would you consider this to be "Whole Tracky"?

Charlie Manson is the creation of the CIA. The Langley crowd has allways been Tracky. They are basicaly the Third Reich ocultists that moved to the USA after Hitler "lost" the war.

 

[Xenu Xenu Xenu]

And yet, every time a Scientologist attempts to use Hubbard's "tech" outside of Scientology, it's an unmitigated disaster.

I tend to agree. It's also a disaster inside of Scientology. LOL!

 

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

That is a pretty weird comment, especially since you do not even know which society am I a part of or even which continent do I currently inhabit.

So, which one have you meant? China? Iran? Monaco maybe?

They are all in this planet. It doesn't matter which continent you are in. This is a prison planet run by the same secret cabal.

 

[He-man]

I tend to agree. It's also a disaster inside of Scientology. LOL!

True.

I just don't get what makes scientologists outside Scientology inc. so sloppy.

Not following conditions. Creating Out-PR. Openly being 1.1 and doing 3rd party actions and using generalisations.

I mean come on!

It's like some of them have the hardest hard on for a golden rod I've ever seen.

 

[Cuitlahuac Rivas]

Bollocks!

If you don't see Black Sabbath's "Heaven and Hell" as tracky, then God bless you...

 

[Veda]

The problem with Jack Horner is that he would have split the Bridge with his own copyrights. One example is the "self claimed Hubbard" Andreas Buttler. He developed "Sperianism". Latter said his tech was flubed and avandoned it all. Now he is suing people commenting on him. If Buttler invalidated all his tech. Just imagine the coplications if every collaborator of Hubbard claimed ownership of their share? How many collaborators would be sueing scientologists over the use of their contributions and processes to The Bridge?

That is why he must remain Source.

Yes. I remember that gigant photo in the golden frame at my Class IV Org.

So, we can agree that the R6 bank "iconology" was a success.

Sure, Hubbard didn't gave a real OT 8 level, but that doesn't mean the Bridge is not there. Bill Robertson (allegedly on telepathic comm with Hubbard) developed OT 8 (Excalubur) and the next levels in his Ron's Org.

Hubbard himself explains how Scientology has many contributions dating back to millenia. But Scientology has remained a single subject thanks to Hubbard being the Source of it.

Do you have any information on Jack Horner and copyrighting? I've not heard mention of it before with regard to him.

I spoke with Jack Horner a number of times in 1983 and 1984. Horner just wanted to be left alone to run his center, but was relentlessly, covertly and overtly, attacked by Scientology's spying and dirty tricks bureau following Hubbard's instructions.

I've read the confidential internal machinations re. Horner which targeted him. He was viciously attacked and posed no threat.

The idea of "Source" is fraudulent, so how is it "ethical" to continue that fraud?

At what point in their ascension, up the Hubbard Chart of Awareness Characteristics, are Scientologists able to confront the truth about Scientology?

Scientology is only a "success" in that it attains the self-aggrandizing objective Hubbard envisioned in his August 1938 Excalibur letter to his wife.

Scientology is not a success in other ways to any significant degree.

It exists as a monument to Hubbard with Scientologists being the caretakers.

The subject is both incomplete and booby trapped. By all means acknowledge the good parts, but also acknowledge Hubbard's hidden agenda and ulterior motives.

You haven't addressed the problem of Scientology Ethics being illegitimate, and without Justification, in light of the massive amount of fraud and deception in Scientology.

And I see that you believe an assortment of Hubbard/G.O./OSA generated tall tales, starting with Scientology stopping the building of gulags in Alaska, etc. Those beliefs might justify Scientology Ethics partly, but with no actual Bridge to Total Freedom, it's a tough sell.