If you were able to duplicate what I wrote, the conversation would be a lot more civil. Since you can't understand what I actually wrote and since you create antagonism that does not exist on my part, it would probably be best if you did ignore me.
Hilarious!
I keep running into things to "peel" off since the cult. Was just outside working on the yard thinking, I could talk to someone that said they were a scientologist, and know within about ten seconds of talking, their level of involvement, training level, time in the cult, their personal "KSW" (spit), you know what I mean. I was in long enough, eyes open enough, willing to ask the questions, to know. BUT, I would have to learn something about this thing called "real mental therapy or help", because I would probably use an incorrect criteria. Just what @Glenda said above. I've lived a few years and know a couple of things, hung around here and there, I know a couple things. But mental therapy, nope.Hilarious!
I haven't posted on this thread because I went through all the discussions
on the Idenics thread years ago. It ended up nowhere. What I wrote then:
A fully realized and completed subject, a marketable subject would spell out everything. It could be taught out of the book in colleges and to therapists/counselors around the world. Results could be quantified and tested. Otherwise the book is just a lead generator for a private counseling practice. A local “mom and pop” therapy practice, I call it. Which is OK. Just calling it as I see it.Realize one thing: people that didn’t hold Hubbard’s “feet to the fire” when they had the chance to (like me) are going to be extra critical of anyone else presenting any “answer” in any aspect of life from then on. Doing the proper due diligence, that is, next time around.
Unless someone writes a book and explains the technique so others can
understand it easily, replicate it easily, and replicate the results easily, you
have nothing but a local neighborhood therapy practice. It dies when the
main practitioner retires or dies.
Beyond that, it's a lot of noise and fury signifying little or nothing, IMO.
Sorry, life is tough that way.
"DALAI LAMA
Fuck You!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
OMG this picture will stay with me a while
It's a few posts back, but if rudiments ruin a session because they key out what should be audited, then why not run them at the end instead of the beginning?
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To my knowledge the Dalai-Lama never promess anything and certainly not to heal people. He is more and advocate of cultivating mindfulness ( via meditation and concrete actions, and kindness as) as a way to avoid unnecessary suffering which would create better families,communities, societies and world.
As a Buddhist, the more money I spend yearly, to cover me meditation classes, courses, lectures, celebrations etc... was no more than the equivalent of 300 $ US. I never ever was ask any money or donations.
When I see a Tibetan Lama physician it cost me the equivalent of 40 $ US and would get an apt even it can't afford the cost. The Dalaï-lama is not a physician thus he doesn't heal.
If you want to point flaws, regarding money, his entourage should be a better target IMO.
I never had anything negative to say (or think) about the Dalai Lama, whatsoever. I just picked out a symbolic person that was quite famous, wonderfully well-respected and an icon of spiritual values.
Sorry you thought i was criticizing the Dalai Lama, quite the opposite. When my spoof post has him yelling "FUCK YOU" it was to show how ludicrous it would be for a "spiritual" leader to behave that way. I was trying to make a point that Dex was not doing himself any favors by snapping back with hostility whilst trying to establish his bona fides as a professional counselor of the mind and spirit. See my point?
Namaste, madmoiselle!
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Yes to your question about seeing a psychologist. I nearly passed out in the waiting room the first time I saw a psych-trained therapist. I am ex-CCHR and was up to my eyeballs in "the psychs are evil". I had a "brilliant" panic attack in the waiting room. I didn't think I'd make it into the therapists office without collapsing. I wanted to run out into the car-park. By the time I got into her office I was inelegantly glowing with sweat. I told her I was terrified, and why. She addressed my insane fears with dignity and calm.
So much of what my phobias were based on (Hubbard's stuff) became irrelevant once I started therapy. My spirituality was respected, encouraged even. I was very wary in the beginning. I think I was a total pain to be honest. I insisted the door be left ajar - my theory was if I didn't like what was happening I could get out of the room easily and run like hell to the car-park. My "the car-park is my safe place" theory.:
Later on I worked with a really experienced psychologist. I was still a little "psychs are all evil" and I told him that. We ended up working really well in a therapeutic relationship. I was able to "use him" to help me overcome the phobias scientology had installed. He encouraged me to explore, freely, what my fears of the psychs were based on. Terrific bloke. A very funny man too.
My point is, it can be done. A good psychologist, therapist, is worth working with if you can form a trusting therapeutic relationship. For me it wasn't easy in the beginning. I had that head-full of "the psychs are evil" to work through. But I did and I reckon if I can anyone can.
