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SCIENTOLOGISTS GIVE THEIR OT WINS ON
NEW BOOKS AND RUNDOWNS RELEASED
BY THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY .
HERE'S AN INNOCENT QUESTION: Go into any scientology "org" on the planet and ask any Scientologist (especially Clears and OTs that have been in scientology for decades) if they can go exterior and give you a demonstration that proves they can do it. After all, Hubbard was bragging 75 years ago (early 50's) about how easy it was to "go exterior" with full visualization and move around the universe freely without a body.
A prominent person who asked this "innocent question" was Mary Sue Hubbard.
Jon Atack wrote about it in this blog post at the Underground Bunker:
Jon Atack: Did Mary Sue Hubbard Doubt Scientology’s Key Experience?
By Tony Ortega | November 16, 2013
Excerpt:
Jon Atack is the author of A Piece of Blue Sky, one of the very best books on L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. He has a new edition of the book for sale, and on Saturdays he’s helping us sift through the legends, myths, and contested facts about Scientology that tend to get hashed and rehashed in books, articles, and especially on the Internet.
Jon, you had an interesting anecdote for us this week about Mary Sue Hubbard. She was L. Ron Hubbard’s third wife, and they had four children together. They were married in 1952, and she was an enthusiastic Scientologist and helped him run his movement, including the years from 1967 to 1975, when they ran Scientology from sea. But you say that didn’t always go smoothly?
JON: Otto Roos was the first OT VIII and one of only five Class XIIs trained by Hubbard, personally. While he was Hubbard’s auditor, aboard ship, he overheard Mary Sue loudly castigating her husband. Imagine, the wife of the Founder, the Deputy Commodore and Controller of the Guardian’s Office, was shouting at the Old Man of the Sea Org and calling him a fraud and a charlatan!
THE BUNKER: That is startling. Let’s explain a few of those terms. While Hubbard ran Scientology from the yacht Apollo in the early 1970s, the crew was busy with a lot of auditing and training to be auditors. Otto Roos was one of a few auditors who was trained personally by Hubbard to the highest rating, Class XII. He also reached the highest level of spiritual advancement, Operating Thetan Level Eight, when it was released years later. Mary Sue, meanwhile, was not only the wife of Scientology’s founder, who called himself “Commodore,” but she also ran the Guardian’s Office, the notorious spy network of Scientology. But in spite of her high position, she called Hubbard a fraud?
JON: Eventually, Hubbard placated Mary Sue by asking how he could prove to her that Scientology really worked. There wasn’t a moment’s hesitation: Mary Sue had never been “exterior with full perception.” So, poor Otto was ordered to run every exteriorization process he could find (about 90 of them existed, if I remember rightly), until Mary Sue popped out of her head. I don’t remember for how many weeks this elaborate farce lasted, but in the end, Mary Sue decided that she would rather not go “exterior” than have to continue with these absurd “processes.”
<snip>. Full post at link above
Au contraire, mon ami.perplexing and somewhat troubling pattern seems to be forming . . .


of a farmer in the Midwest as compared to aAu contraire, mon ami.
Sorry to tell you guys . . . but you're all missing the big picture
and a very, very fine distinction. Nuance, subtlety people.
Exteriorization never meant that you actually go to these places, but only
that you imagine that you do, LOL. Scientology at it's core is a method
of stretching, energizing, drilling and empowering your imagination.
Creating the most incredible imagined visions, ideas and memories,
real or not. Think about it.
The OT levels could be said to be based on the flexibility of one's imagination.
People with the best innate imaginations did best on the upper bridge, IMO.
Imagine the imaginationof a farmer in the Midwest as compared to a
Hollywood screenwriter, LOL. One has a limited imagination perhaps, the
other an almost an unlimited and wild imagination. A raw meat vs an OT8.
. . . . . . . . . . .. . . . . Imagination of a raw meat . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . Imagination of an OT8 Maximus Invictus
Scientology actually DOES work on some level, LOL.
Mary Sue just needed to pretend harder just a tad bit more.



Terribly funny!![]()