I M Dex
Well-known member
Maybe we should convene a Board of Investigation.
Why ex-members and never-in protesters fail to understand each other
- Thread starter Karakorum
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lotus
🇨🇦 Dough Ford to Trump "kiss my ass looser" 👏
I was reading and found interesting.. yep, till the orange van hit it.....
Anyway, thanks for one of the rare topic never yet addressed.
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A Comm Ev is in order!Maybe we should convene a Board of Investigation.
Karakorum
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Perhaps, though tbh I have not observed really that much misunderstandings between just SO and staff.
I'd say otheer than "never-ins & ex members" the other similar pair with frequent misunderstandings caused by a very different life experience is "1st gens & 2nd gens".
Enthetan
Veteran of the Psychic Wars
I've recommended his book for a long time as a way to understand ScientologyGood post.
I came across this dude today and thought it really explains a lot of what is going on today.
Kinda hard to remember that this guy published his book in 1951!
This article explains things a little more:
The Prophets: Eric Hoffer
In 1951, a book by an unschooled dockworker predicted the forces that would give rise to radical politics on the left, populism on the right—and a president like Donald Trump.substack.com
hi ,
good point.
it has been used for so long here.
very boring and same.
If someone thinks this is a way of "handling" posts here it is funny.
this "way" used to work on old platforms 10 , 15 years ago.
thanks
Karakorum
千差万別
I mena it tongue in cheek mostly. But yeah, we have a whole "US poilitics" and "Geopolitics" and "War in Ukraine" threads for that. We have other places to discuss political stuff unrelated to scientology, all I'm saying.
hi,
thanks for reply,
but same reply is used with "those other people"
They say it was just "tongue in cheeck" ...
instead of admiting " I was passive agresive"
(i love that frame of words)
good luck.
and I like your posts , seems like you know what you stand for!
all best from LRHs Bulgravia.
Karakorum
千差万別
Well, I have said it with a wink and a smile, or alternatively I could have been 'active agressive' and say: "Yo, stop going off topic and take that stuff to the politics thread thank-you-very-much".
There was really no other or better way to say it. I think I chose the less hostile option.
KKS
“Knowing yourself is the beginning of all wisdom.”
Depends on character. I think Mark Bunker and Tory Magoo have hit it of from the start. And Second gens are closer than the Mike Rinders of this world to Never ins.
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Reyne Mayer
Pansexual Revolutionary
yeah - i've just not had much energy for getting into it.
my take is there was just some of the sort dissension that tends to occur between people -- particularly spurred on by ASL's ex-cultie nature, and then given opportunity by the outbreak of new round of protesters/1A auditors -- and OSA is just exploiting that.
Reyne Mayer
Pansexual Revolutionary
i think what's been forgotten, is what went on on the first half of that century, with all sorts of authorities and gurus, and psychologically and spiritually oriented teachings and movements. one of the reasons LRH got away with as much repackaging of earlier stuff as he did, was particularly by the time the boomer kids came along, they had little to no knowledge of people like Elbert Hubbard, Napoleon Hill, Aleister Crowley or Edgar Cayce and their 'work', and couldn't recognize copying and plagiarism.
also, i checked Wikipedia, and it turns out that all that's known of Hoffer's background is what he himself said, at least some of which seems not to actually fit with things like the type of german accent he actually had -- and there is no evidence, no records (meaning he was likely some sort of 'illegal immigrant') and no one who knew him when young ever came forward. i wonder if he was a sort of reverse Hubbard, someone who was better educated than he let on.
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Type4_PTS
Well-known member
I think I am the guilty party, at least one of them.
I'll save the Dev-T of a Comm Ev. I'll just go clean out a nearby dumpster with a toothbrush and apply for acceptance back into the group.
I M Dex
Well-known member
"Tongue in cheek" does not = "passive aggressive". "Tongue in cheek" simply means expressing something in a humorous and entertaining way, to make a person smile. Your characterizing Karakorum's reply as "passive-aggressive" IS passive-aggressive, and indicative of your Scientology indoctrination ("Jokers and degraders"= "1.1, covertly hostile"). Try to think for yourself instead of defaulting to what you've input.
I M Dex
Well-known member
And no using an electric toothbrush, that's for upstats.
Reyne Mayer
Pansexual Revolutionary
Type4_PTS
Well-known member
There was very little in the video that was newsworthy. It was mostly Aaron thanking people who came out to Clearwater and some locals who helped out. Nothing in the video was in any way remotely related to this thread.
The only thing that was newsworthy IMO was when Aaron and some others were protesting in Clearwater the CoS called the police on them when they were in front of the SP building (across from the Fort Harrison). The police did nothing because the protesters weren't violating any laws. And two of the cops ended up taking group photos with the protesters, something that probably really pissed off OSA.
This is a screenshot from an earlier video of the protesters in front of the SP building with the police.
Here's a little bit of a clearer picture of that sign:
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