TOP SUPER-STUPID MOMENTS IN SCIENTOLOGY (PART V)

HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
That sucks.
Why can't people tell the truth about their military experiences?
It's easy.

I refueled airplanes.
See, that was easy.
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LOL, nice!

Well as long as people here are revealing personal information, I took the liberty of asking L. Don Hubbard (see avatar) to take the plunge and reveal his military experiences. And with surprisingly little com lag, we just received his telex response:

Originally posted by LDH
I was a war hero and a nuclear physicist. The latter I used to achieve the former. The war didn't just end itself, people! Hiroshima? Nagasaki? Helloooooooooo! See, that was easy.​
ML,​
Don​
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Chuck J.

Election Fraud Has Consequences
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LOL, nice!

Well as long as people here are revealing personal information, I took the liberty of asking L. Don Hubbard (see avatar) to take the plunge and reveal his military experiences. And with surprisingly little com lag, we just received his telex response:


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Don is a legend in the USAF. In fact we used to sit around on breaks and discuss the alternative history that might have happened if he had not been around. Scary thought. We'd all be speaking German or Japanese if not for Don.
 

HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
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PART I: SIGNS ON A BUS

SIGNS
OF THE COMING
SCIENTOLOGY APOCALYPSE



SIGNS on a bus. . .
That should work to get people to pay $600,000 to come
in and get to 'know themselves' over the next few decades.
Don't worry that the "end phenomena" of the entire Scientology
"bridge" is the attainment of the following OT VIII super ability:

"I now know who I am not and I am interested to find out who I am."
In Cult-Speak that's the same as "KNOW YOURSELF", the bus sign promises.

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HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
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PART II: SIGNS ON A BUS


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SIGNS
OF THE COMING
SCIENTOLOGY APOCALYPSE


SIGNS on a bus. . .
That should work to get people to pay $600,000 to come
in and get to 'know themselves' over the next few decades.
Don't worry that the "end phenomena" of the entire Scientology
"bridge" is the attainment of the following OT VIII super ability:

"I now know who I am not and I am interested to find out who I am."
In Cult-Speak that's the same as "KNOW YOURSELF", the bus sign promises.

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FREE INTRODUCTORY TRANSLATION
FROM CULT-SPEAK TO ENGLISH






KNOW YOURSELF.
KNOW LIFE.

KNOW YOUR BANK ACCOUNT BALANCE.
KNOW HOW TO USE OVERDRAFT PROTECTION.


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HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
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PART III: SIGNS ON A BUS

WHO KNEW?!
WHO KNEW THAT THE KEY TO SALVATION AND
THE SECRET TO REGAINING ONES "ETERNITY"
COULD BE FOUND ON THE SIDE OF A BUS?!





Reminds me of the lyrics of Joan Osborne's Christian pop song "One Of Us". . .


What if God was one of us?
Just a slob like one of us
Just a stranger on the bus


(second verse, unverified)

What if Ron was regging us?
Just a conniving slob sitting next to us
Just a conman on the bus


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Veda

Well-known member
OT VIII was "Ability to be at cause knowingly and at will over thought, life, form, matter, energy, space and time, subjective and objective."

Circa 1970

When Missions found a way to deliver Dianetics and the Lower Grades, during the 1960s and 1970s, and grew rich, but fewer and fewer people continued into St Hill and Advanced Org level Scientology (where Hubbard had direct access to the money), Hubbard "discovered" that "Dianetics made Clears" and that Missions were "holding onto Clears"

The peak years for Clears were 1967, 1968, and 1969, followed by a slowing. In 1977, the number of Clears slowed further, and was almost flat lining.

Edit: Typos


 
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HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
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Once upon a time the miraculously messianic moviestar Tom Cruise
asked the enthralled Scientologists listening to his KSW speech
a question with intensely deep-penetrating TR-O:


"So, whadya say, are we
going to clean this place up?"


I say this in response—A big resounding "Yes!"
YES TOM, YES! WE ARE GOING TO CLEAN THIS PLACE UP!

Let's begin by cleaning up the oldest and most destructive
mess in Scientology. The chronic transcriptionist errors
that have sabotaged our ability to clear this
planet for endless quadrillions of years.



CAN YOU OBNOSE & DETECT THE SP TRANSCRIPTIONIST'S SQUIRRELY ERROR?


Jeez, if we don't correct that hot mess, I don't think
that people are going to get huge wins on this planet.


FIFY



ERRATA: Yeah, don't trust that lying c---sucker!



* ERRATA HELPFUL HINT: Missing letters are possibly "ULT"




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HelluvaHoax!

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Xenu Xenu Xenu said:
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Finding out the truth about Scientology is "out tech".
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Perfection!

Scientologists are allowed to donate to Scientology, disseminate Scientology and write wins about Scientology—just not to find out about Scientology.

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Reyne Mayer

Pansexual Revolutionary
The peak years for Clears were 1967, 1968, and 1969, followed by a slowing. In 1977, the number of Clears slowed further, and was almost flat lining.
those were the peak years of the counter culture movement and the baby boomer youth wave, when the streets in places like Haight-Ashbury were filled with young adults looking to Turn on, tune in, drop out". anything and everything even vaguely appealing to that demographic peaked then, including new religious movements and cults. and anything that was at all faddish or dependent on just a lot of turnover of young customers, slowed after that. Hubbard seems to have been unwilling to acknowledge the impacts of social and economic changes, if not entirey oblivious to such externalities (other than imagined scapegoat conspirators like SMERSH), so scientology apparently acted as if none of that had anything to do with what was going on internally.

i should ask, was anyone in then, aware of that big picture? from what i've read, at least a couple of the more savvy mission holders had some idea of the sea changes going on.
 
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PirateAndBum

Administrator
Staff member
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NOMINATED AS ONE OF SCIENTOLOGY'S
STUPIDEST PIECES OF TECHNOLOGY


the
"DEMONSTRATION"
It comes in many forms.

The DEMONSTRATION done with clay. . .

The DEMONSTRATION done with paper clips and used batteries. . .

The DEMONSTRATION done with graphic schematics. Here's one from "The Scientology Handbook" that will fully simplify & explain to you how life really works. . .




Except that after you look at any of Scientology's purportedly
"illustrative" graphics, you will be left scratching
your head and wondering. . .
WTF ARE THESE CULT FREAKS TALKING ABOUT?!

Look at that graphic again. Can anyone explain or at least
offer a theory of what they are trying to communicate?

What the hell do all those arrows represent?!

Why is there a Scientologist standing
behind the seated girl, staring creepily at
the back of her meat body's head?

And seriously--why is there a stupid glass vase
with a stupid yellow flower in the middle
of the stupid red arrows?!

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I'll offer my expert analysis of the depiction: The painting on the wall is inhabited by a BT which is mocking up a picture of the boy in the photo which is causing energy flows to manifest from the photo and flower via telepathic influence on the sitting girl resulting in a theta perceptic appearing over the girl's head and causing a return emotional flow to the BT. The girl standing has not perceived any of this and the BT-in-artwork on the wall is ARC-broken due to being ignored.
 

guanoloco

As-Wased
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PART I: SIGNS ON A BUS

SIGNS
OF THE COMING
SCIENTOLOGY APOCALYPSE



SIGNS on a bus. . .
That should work to get people to pay $600,000 to come
in and get to 'know themselves' over the next few decades.
Don't worry that the "end phenomena" of the entire Scientology
"bridge" is the attainment of the following OT VIII super ability:

"I now know who I am not and I am interested to find out who I am."
In Cult-Speak that's the same as "KNOW YOURSELF", the bus sign promises.

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These ads are so stupid.

They don't mean anything...they don't say anything...they don't convey anything.

Who are they targeting? What public, if any, respond to this?

You're going to get a bunch of airhead hippies or something.

Nobody wants Scientology. Anyone that came in through Scientology books, in the main, were loonies. The ones who had stable businesses and made the cash had come either through the Dianetics line or, more likely, through the WISE channels.

Even the most successful Dianetics campaign ran ads that answered things and provided answers and then blasted an image of the book with "page 164" or something. That was the mystery sandwich. Find the answer in this book on this page.

This ad is targeted to a lost person...not a productive person with a plan and a goal.

Hubbard knew this and was a master at this. He promoted Dianetics and improving the mind to the general Joe and promoted Scientology to the flock.

Miscavige doesn't understand this and even pronounces it as "Dianeticscientology". He doesn't keep this separate and has dropped Dianetics altogether. He advertises Scientology. Nobody wants that.

This is how stupid it has become:

The lower Bridge, the Grades, the Purif and all the things that it encompasses and handles that is supposed to be BPI absolutely nobody knows anything about it. They have no clue what Scientology does here.

The upper Bridge, the OT levels and the implants and super confidential Xenu stuff that is so case-sensitive that it kills people without the proper set up and is supposed to be under lock and key - that part that was the sacred duty of RTC to keep confidential and protect - that thing that was specifically not supposed to be broad public issue - that's what the Scientology brand has become to the general public.

They know nothing about what Scientology is supposed to make public - that's a complete mystery - and they know all about what Scientology is supposed to keep secret and a mystery - that's well known. It's the laughing stock of comedy and the only thing that the general public discuss regarding Scientology.

Anyone seeing the Scientology brand isn't going to be curious about knowing themselves or life as they're going to say "isn't that the Xenu cult?" - the alien, UFO cult.

BTs, implants, exorcism, Xenu - that's what Scientology is.

Scientologists who are at the lower Bridge level, which is the bulk of staff, don't know anything about the OT levels or Xenu. They're trying to sell the Purif and Comm courses and ARC and Conditions and all that to a public that is asking questions about Xenu. They actually know less about Scientology than the average Joe WOG public.

They're that far out of Comm with the public.
 

HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
These ads are so stupid.

They don't mean anything...they don't say anything...they don't convey anything.

Who are they targeting? What public, if any, respond to this?

You're going to get a bunch of airhead hippies or something.

Nobody wants Scientology. Anyone that came in through Scientology books, in the main, were loonies. The ones who had stable businesses and made the cash had come either through the Dianetics line or, more likely, through the WISE channels.

Even the most successful Dianetics campaign ran ads that answered things and provided answers and then blasted an image of the book with "page 164" or something. That was the mystery sandwich. Find the answer in this book on this page.

This ad is targeted to a lost person...not a productive person with a plan and a goal.

Hubbard knew this and was a master at this. He promoted Dianetics and improving the mind to the general Joe and promoted Scientology to the flock.

Miscavige doesn't understand this and even pronounces it as "Dianeticscientology". He doesn't keep this separate and has dropped Dianetics altogether. He advertises Scientology. Nobody wants that.

This is how stupid it has become:

The lower Bridge, the Grades, the Purif and all the things that it encompasses and handles that is supposed to be BPI absolutely nobody knows anything about it. They have no clue what Scientology does here.

The upper Bridge, the OT levels and the implants and super confidential Xenu stuff that is so case-sensitive that it kills people without the proper set up and is supposed to be under lock and key - that part that was the sacred duty of RTC to keep confidential and protect - that thing that was specifically not supposed to be broad public issue - that's what the Scientology brand has become to the general public.

They know nothing about what Scientology is supposed to make public - that's a complete mystery - and they know all about what Scientology is supposed to keep secret and a mystery - that's well known. It's the laughing stock of comedy and the only thing that the general public discuss regarding Scientology.

Anyone seeing the Scientology brand isn't going to be curious about knowing themselves or life as they're going to say "isn't that the Xenu cult?" - the alien, UFO cult.

BTs, implants, exorcism, Xenu - that's what Scientology is.

Scientologists who are at the lower Bridge level, which is the bulk of staff, don't know anything about the OT levels or Xenu. They're trying to sell the Purif and Comm courses and ARC and Conditions and all that to a public that is asking questions about Xenu. They actually know less about Scientology than the average Joe WOG public.

They're that far out of Comm with the public.
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Okay, sir, I am sensing that you are not a big fan of the "KNOW YOURSELF--KNOW LIFE!" campaign. If that doesn't help you decide that you are a Scientologist, we have other campaign slogans sir. Let's work together and find the one that most indicates to you. . .

Now, we've got this honey of a slogan we think might be just the thing to float your boat. Let's try it out sir. It's "THINK FOR YOURSELF!" Starting to feel like reaching for your charge card now, sir, and paying for your whole Bridge? What's that? You don't like that one either?

How about our crusade slogan, "WE MAKE THE ABLE MORE ABLE!"? No? Well, sir, one of these slogans is bound to work. . .

How about "SCIENTOLOGY IS THE SCIENCE OF KNOWING HOW TO KNOW!"? Killer, right? What? Not so much? Hmmmmm.

Well maybe sir you are one of the wogs that our slogan tech doesn't work on. We call you people "SPs". But there's still help for you sir! Let's try our newest slogan that hasn't even been released yet. In fact, we're still piloting it. Everyone says it's the best slogan ever in Scientology's 71 year history, because it is simple and direct and doesn't try to trick everyone with generalities and creepy abstractions. We will be releasing it in 2022, but you can hear our new Ideal Slogan Of The Century right now so that we can get you started on paying for your Bridge today! Ready for it, sir? Here you go!!!

"KNOW SCIENTOLOGY--KNOW HOW TO USE INTENTION TO
OVERWHELM OTHERS INTO DONATING TO YOU ALL THEIR TIME
AND ALL THEIR MONEY--AND THEN BEING AFRAID TO SUE YOU
FOR A REFUND WHEN THEIR WHOLE LIFE GOES TO HELL!
"​

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CULT CURIOSITY: That slogan would probably create Scientology's biggest boom ever, mainly because it would be the first time the cult adhered to "truth in advertising" regulations and also because that particular product warrantee is the only Scientology claim that actually provably works.


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Reyne Mayer

Pansexual Revolutionary
You're going to get a bunch of airhead hippies or something.

Nobody wants Scientology. Anyone that came in through Scientology books, in the main, were loonies. The ones who had stable businesses and made the cash had come either through the Dianetics line or, more likely, through the WISE channels.

Even the most successful Dianetics campaign ran ads that answered things and provided answers and then blasted an image of the book with "page 164" or something. That was the mystery sandwich. Find the answer in this book on this page.

This ad is targeted to a lost person...not a productive person with a plan and a goal.
interesting take, thanks for that.

i'd say that may actually be the formula that worked during scientology's heyday in the late 60s, attract aimless hippies (just to go along with your generalizations, which i think get at good bit of the truth), get them to sell their motorcycles and empty their college accounts, and once they've gone as far as they can with the money they had, rinse and repeat with the next lost soul who wanders through the door 'seeking'.

given that scientology's fundamental recruiting strategy is to find someone's 'ruin' and appeal to that, isn't that always going to tend go get them people whose lives aren't quite on track -- except for the rather different WISE approach pitched to professionals?
 

guanoloco

As-Wased
interesting take, thanks for that.

i'd say that may actually be the formula that worked during scientology's heyday in the late 60s, attract aimless hippies (just to go along with your generalizations, which i think get at good bit of the truth), get them to sell their motorcycles and empty their college accounts, and once they've gone as far as they can with the money they had, rinse and repeat with the next lost soul who wanders through the door 'seeking'.

given that scientology's fundamental recruiting strategy is to find someone's 'ruin' and appeal to that, isn't that always going to tend go get them people whose lives aren't quite on track -- except for the rather different WISE approach pitched to professionals?
And there you have it. Everyone has a ruin. Ruin handling is great.

"Know yourself" isn't a ruin. That's some vague esoterica that someone may or may not be grinding on.

Scientology never marketed to hippies. Hippies are DBs. Recruiting is a different animal altogether and a recruiter looking to their own stats may or may not target DBs but Scientology, Inc is after money. Not hippies.
 
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Type4_PTS

Well-known member
<snip>

SIGNS on a bus. . .
That should work to get people to pay $600,000 to come
in and get to 'know themselves' over the next few decades.
Don't worry that the "end phenomena" of the entire Scientology
"bridge" is the attainment of the following OT VIII super ability:

"I now know who I am not and I am interested to find out who I am."
In Cult-Speak that's the same as "KNOW YOURSELF", the bus sign promises.

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What's the correct handling for someone on OT VIII who originates "I feel incredible and for the first time I have certainty on who I really am"?

Would they be given a correction list, regged for a battery of sec checks, or sent back to the beginning of the Bridge to start over?
 

ILove2Lurk

Lisbeth Salander
i'd say that may actually be the formula that worked during scientology's heyday in the late 60s, attract aimless hippies (just to go along with your generalizations, which i think get at good bit of the truth), get them to sell their motorcycles and empty their college accounts, and once they've gone as far as they can with the money they had, rinse and repeat with the next lost soul who wanders through the door 'seeking'.
Nailed it! :yes:
"slogan tech"
Is "slogan" still even in the dictionary? :hysterical:

Last time 50's marketing worked was in in the 50's . . .
in the back of Popular Science magazine, promoting
an esoteric order founded in the early 1600's.
~ click in image to view larger ~

¯\_(ツ)_/¯​
 

Reyne Mayer

Pansexual Revolutionary
Scientology never marketed to hippies. Hippies are DBs. Recruiting is a different animal altogether and a recruiter looking to their own stats may or may not target DBs but Scientology, Inc is after money. Not hippies.
maybe not later, as things changed. when was the period you had experience with?

this is the sort of thing i find:

1969:
'Even its members will concede that it is far out. After a hurried interview with Miss Anne Ursprung, top executive of the Founding Church, I managed an extension of time by driving her and fellow staff member Esther Mangold to the airport to pick up a couple of Scientologists, Leon and Mitch, who were arriving from New York. As we returned to the city, I asked if it were true that many hippies are interested in Scientology. Leon explained that hippies, having been turned off by the churches, are drawn to Scientology because it represents a radical departure from tradition. Magazine articles denouncing Scientology have elicited an enthusiastic reaction from the hippie community. “If the establishment is against it, it must be good,” they reason.' Scientology: Religion or Racket?: First of Two Parts

Jeff Hawkins:
'He joined because as a self-proclaimed hippie in the late 1960s, he liked the idea of Scientology’s antiwar stance and spiritual component, particularly the strong belief about the afterlife.'' https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/12/21/ex-scientologists-tell-disturbing-stories-about-david-miscavige-the-pope-of-scientology-on-ae-series/

Tina Phillips, writing for CoS' STAND:
'I was the one, back in the day, who fully embraced being as much of a hippie as possible'

Tory Christman:
'Christman had left home for California with the intent of becoming a hippie.'

Patty Pedniaz:
'There was quite a bit to accomplish in two weeks because NN UK was more like a bunch of ex hippies and druggies sitting around drinking tea and doing TR's.' An Ex-Scientology Office of Special affairs Volunteer - Pattie Pieniadz, starts telling her story

Roger Weller:
'“In 1967, Scientology was a natural to go to from the drug culture. The New York org, it was a cool thing,” he says. “There was something interesting about it. Here I was, all freaked out on acid, and here were all these people who seemed so focused. I told them I wanted to go to India. They said I needed auditing.”

He was brought into the org by a good looking girl. “The chick is looking at the e-meter, the needle going back and forth. ‘Do you do any drugs?’ she asked me. I said, ‘Not really, I smoked a little pot this morning.'” Roger was told he’d need to be off drugs for six months before he could get any benefit from Scientology. He decided he could do that.

[Weller sent this photo of himself with Mick Jagger at a 1972 forum, where he said he gave the singer a Scientology book]

“There were all these hot chicks. I bought this book 88088. It had all this out-of-body stuff. ‘This is cool,’ I thought. I can fly around the universe and not have to take any drugs.”

The young men, meanwhile, also struck him in interesting ways. “There were guys a few years older, wearing ascots — Hubbard wore an ascot. I thought it was odd, but they were really friendly to me. They were listening to me. It was just a very cool experience,” he says. “Haight Ashbury had been all about crabs. It was not as great as everybody thinks it was.”

Roger became an ardent member of Scientology and would stay in it for another 19 years. “I disseminated Scientology to so many people in the 60s, and the whole time I was in Scientology I was in the counterculture,” he says. “I did have fun, going to lots of parties, and it wasn’t so expensive when I was in. I met lots of people in Scientology in the 19 years I was in. Most of them are out now,” he adds.

Roger himself left Scientology when L. Ron Hubbard decided to change planes of existence and left his body in 1986.

“I’m still a hippie today. I don’t smoke pot or take drugs, and my hair is short, but I still do my own thing. I meditate. I’m still living outside society,” he says.' When Scientology Was Hip: E-Meters in the Village - The Village Voice
 
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guanoloco

As-Wased
maybe not later, as things changed. when was the period you had experience with?

this is the sort of thing i find:

1969:
'Even its members will concede that it is far out. After a hurried interview with Miss Anne Ursprung, top executive of the Founding Church, I managed an extension of time by driving her and fellow staff member Esther Mangold to the airport to pick up a couple of Scientologists, Leon and Mitch, who were arriving from New York. As we returned to the city, I asked if it were true that many hippies are interested in Scientology. Leon explained that hippies, having been turned off by the churches, are drawn to Scientology because it represents a radical departure from tradition. Magazine articles denouncing Scientology have elicited an enthusiastic reaction from the hippie community. “If the establishment is against it, it must be good,” they reason.' Scientology: Religion or Racket?: First of Two Parts

Jeff Hawkins:
'He joined because as a self-proclaimed hippie in the late 1960s, he liked the idea of Scientology’s antiwar stance and spiritual component, particularly the strong belief about the afterlife.'' https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/arts-and-entertainment/wp/2016/12/21/ex-scientologists-tell-disturbing-stories-about-david-miscavige-the-pope-of-scientology-on-ae-series/

Tina Phillips, writing for CoS' STAND:
'I was the one, back in the day, who fully embraced being as much of a hippie as possible'

Tory Christman:
'Christman had left home for California with the intent of becoming a hippie.'

Patty Pedniaz:
'There was quite a bit to accomplish in two weeks because NN UK was more like a bunch of ex hippies and druggies sitting around drinking tea and doing TR's.' An Ex-Scientology Office of Special affairs Volunteer - Pattie Pieniadz, starts telling her story

Roger Weller:
'“In 1967, Scientology was a natural to go to from the drug culture. The New York org, it was a cool thing,” he says. “There was something interesting about it. Here I was, all freaked out on acid, and here were all these people who seemed so focused. I told them I wanted to go to India. They said I needed auditing.”

He was brought into the org by a good looking girl. “The chick is looking at the e-meter, the needle going back and forth. ‘Do you do any drugs?’ she asked me. I said, ‘Not really, I smoked a little pot this morning.'” Roger was told he’d need to be off drugs for six months before he could get any benefit from Scientology. He decided he could do that.

[Weller sent this photo of himself with Mick Jagger at a 1972 forum, where he said he gave the singer a Scientology book]

“There were all these hot chicks. I bought this book 88088. It had all this out-of-body stuff. ‘This is cool,’ I thought. I can fly around the universe and not have to take any drugs.”

The young men, meanwhile, also struck him in interesting ways. “There were guys a few years older, wearing ascots — Hubbard wore an ascot. I thought it was odd, but they were really friendly to me. They were listening to me. It was just a very cool experience,” he says. “Haight Ashbury had been all about crabs. It was not as great as everybody thinks it was.”

Roger became an ardent member of Scientology and would stay in it for another 19 years. “I disseminated Scientology to so many people in the 60s, and the whole time I was in Scientology I was in the counterculture,” he says. “I did have fun, going to lots of parties, and it wasn’t so expensive when I was in. I met lots of people in Scientology in the 19 years I was in. Most of them are out now,” he adds.

Roger himself left Scientology when L. Ron Hubbard decided to change planes of existence and left his body in 1986.

“I’m still a hippie today. I don’t smoke pot or take drugs, and my hair is short, but I still do my own thing. I meditate. I’m still living outside society,” he says.' When Scientology Was Hip: E-Meters in the Village - The Village Voice
They're all staff.

Scientology doesn't market for staff members.

Scientology sells stuff and wants a public that can buy. They definitely target a troubled youth, no question. They push book buying fairs and blah...blah...blah...

Hippies are living in the street, not working and on drugs. All of that is NOT what Scientology wants. Later, LSD people can't serve in HCO...can't be in the SO...and later, still, they get offloaded to Narcanon - they can't even be public on lines.

If hippies were found to have money then Scientology would become and target a hippie movement.

Scientology is all about being an upstat...not a dropout. Scientology has a lot of surface fluff about being non-material and "universal love for mankind" but it's all about money. If a mark has money he's regged...if he doesn't he's recruited. All the materials state that promiscuity and being a DB is low-toned. Any appeal that Scientology stumbled onto with hippies was purely incidental.

The buttons I seen pushed were to better confidence, IQ, relationships, communication, get off of drugs, become better, become successful and make more money...CONTROL.

Every quote you have there is about being whacked out and space travel - like I said, there were plenty of loons in Scientology and they came through the Scientology loon books. The people that Hubbard targeted were Book 1 public, Book 1 was pushed, whole track was covered up, DBs weren't targeted.

The fact that a ton of hippies get ensnared wasn't what Scientology was targeting.

TL;DR

No one joins a church. No one is looking for a church. More money, more confidence, smarter, more competitive, goals achieved, repaired relationships are what people want. What's holding you back? That stuff.

Hubbard sold Book 1 and Dianetics to the world and Scientology to the Dianetics crowd.
 
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HelluvaHoax!

Well-known member
Nailed it! :yes:. Is "slogan" still even in the dictionary? :hysterical: Last time 50's marketing worked was in in the 50's . . .in the back of Popular Science magazine, promoting an esoteric order founded in the early 1600's.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯​

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I seem to recall when I was a wee lil' youngster I actually sent away for one of the Rosicrucian's offerings under a banner headline guaranteeing "COSMIC CONSCIOUSNESS".












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ILove2Lurk

Lisbeth Salander
this is the sort of thing i find: <snip for brevity>
You're 100% spot on!

I met Roger at Flag. I know him very well. Very cool and alert cat. He was one of the first to "grok"
the lack of promised results and made an issue of it to the people who were asking him for more
money for more bridge levels. I've spoken to him in the last decade . . . before I went fully under-
ground and just don't talk to scientologists or exes anymore. (Long story.)

@Reyne Mayer, I'm always amazed at your grasp of all things Scien and Hubbard for being a never
in, especially the historical stuff. You're always "on point" in your postings. Very entertaining too.
Keep on!

One of the most well-known and revered posters on the older ESMB was afaceinthecrowd. He was
around during those years and worked with Hubbard. He echoed some of the same sentiments you
do, albeit a little more windy.

His interesting perspective:

Numerous books have been written about these forces—they are true and the forces are real. Alan, Rog, Veda, Mystic and Lakey are part of the first force. Carmelo, Zinj, BlueSpirit and Ole Face here are part of the second force, and all of us mentioned are part of the third force.​
What are these forces?​
The “Lucky Few” generation, the “Baby Boomer” generation and, most importantly, a unique “composite” force out of these two forces; the Corssover Chohort Group (CCG)...the latter years of the Few's and the early years of the Boomers.​
The latter years members of the “Few’s” were heavily influenced by their counter-culture sub-cohort group, the "Beatniks". The earlier years members of the “Boomer’s” were heavily influenced by their own counter-culture sub-cohort group—spawned by the “Beats’—the "Hippies".
This (CCG) is the cultural, numerical, educational, economic “pig in the python’. It is the driving wind that has filled sails and sunk ships for the last 50 years. El Ron thought that the rise of Scn in the late ‘50’s and the “Boom” years was due to his Tech and Admin brilliance, his executive acumen…it wasn’t. It was mostly due to Scn’s sails catching some of the CCG winds of change.
CCG’s constituted the Field and built the Missions and Orgs and not SO “Management”. Senior SO Int "Management" was primarily clueless yes-men, jockeying for position to curry the favor of El Ron. The most clueless, political and self centered of the bunch was Princess Di, CS-6. Of all the children, Diana was the most like her father. Having a “conversation” with Princess Di was pretty much like having one with El Ron…you were just a prop on their stage. I feel for her though…towards the end El Ron hung her out to dry, too.​
By the time I arrived in “the inner circle” one thing was obvious to those that had personal interaction with El Ron…Hisself was no longer ready for Primetime. The Apollo was sort of a hermitage for El Ron where Hisself could be all of Hisself's selfs and everyone would applaud, go along with it and keep their mouths shut. In a sense, the Apollo was like a ship of Pirates, under the command of El Ron, The Swashbuckler. The Plunder was the exorbitant fees every Org paid for Flag “Management” and the Booty was money taken from Orgs by Raiding Parties (Flag Missionaire “Help” and “Assistance”). Commodore El Ron El Rey and Hisself’s Pirate Queen had the only access and keys to the Treasure Chest.​
 
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