.Going back to the early 1970s, before Dianetic Clear was re-defined, "A well and happy human being" was the EP for a Dianetic Case Completion. At the time (R3R) Dianetics came before the lower grades on the Grade Chart.
Although a "well and happy human being" is also a pretty good definition of Clear, as far as I'm concerned.
I audited at a break-away mission in the aftermath of the Diantetic Clear frenzy of '78, and lots of people were attesting to Dianetic Clear. Without going into details, I ran my "pc" on a late 1950s listing and nulling and help process, and it went very well. The "pc" originated that he wanted to attest to Clear and he did.
So there seem to be many paths to Clear, and people can argue over definitions, but a person knows when he has attained it.
Very good advice, and the same advice I gave my (outside the CofS) "PCs," steering them away from auditing Hubbard's "case" on the confidential levels.
Okay so you believe in the state of Clear. I didn't know that.
And you picked one of the many different definitions of Clear that you liked. Didn't know that either.
And you believe that a person "knows when he has attained it (clear)". I didn't know you had that belief either.
And you believe that Scientologists running 1950's L&N on the help button produces a clear. I had no idea you believed that either.
And you believe that a Clear is a person who has attained the state of a "WELL & HAPPY HUMAN BEING". I was also clueless that you held that belief.
Now it begins to make sense after all these years of reading your posts, why you keep insisting that others look for and find the "good parts of Scientology". In effect, you are still (to some degree) a believing and practicing Scientologist as it pertains to believing that people can attain the state of Clear. Who knew?!
So, let me ask you a question about that "WELL & HAPPY HUMAN BEING" state that you feel so sure about. . .
What if someone attains "Clear" and then later they get sick (pneumonia, covid, heart disease, cancer, et al) and die. Are they still "Clear" while they are dying?
If they get sick at some point does it mean they did not attain Clear? Or is it your belief that the state of Clear is a very temporary state? For example, If I went Clear today and got the flu tomorrow, did it mean that my Clear state was only a 24 hour affair? If so, why bother attesting to it?
What if I went Clear and an hour later I got a migraine headache and heartburn? Was I only Clear for one hour, or did I falsely attest?
Honestly, I am clueless how you can claim there is a state of Clear. Try to answer the above questions, instead of your SOP which is to say that the questions are ridiculous or "straw man". I just asked you real questions, try to give real answers.