Kirstie Alley Has Passed Away At 71 ~~ Aaron Smith Levin on video

[HelluvaHoax!]

I don't particularly agree - I'm 75 and look forward to more years of life. I think she would have preferred to be alive. It's a damn shame. Mimsey

She was in many ways a free spirit. But she got lost inside the vast labyrinth of rigidly welded cult thinking, rules and values.

I think in some ways it's harder for a Scn celebrity to blow than the typical hard working parishioner. Because the COS goes out of its way to absurd extremes to cater to that celeb in any way that makes their life easier--and holds their hand through the disastrous times. It creates alliances for the celeb that kind of cements the them into not only WANTING that kind of VIP support, but perhaps even thinking they NEED it and won't do so well on their own.

Las Vegas hotels have refined such "WHALE SERVICES" to the highest levels, in order to attract the big and famous players to their gambling tables. But even the casinos don't put support staff the whale's home and business like Scientology does. Even the casinos don't get involved when their whale's life crashes with the latest scandal. Scientology does, they are all over the celebrity's personal life, handling them, running them, correcting them, instructing them and demanding they "keep their exchange in" not only with cash but with "favors" as well. Don Corleone used that tech too.

If the spirit lives on past the physical body and the dearly departed are floating above--"looking down" at the life they just left behind on earth, I wonder what Kirstie is thinking. If she starts to realize she was in a hoax cult she will probably think the same exact thing as every other Scientologist who has ever blown.

To wit, "WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING?!!!"

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[Karakorum]

Another OT 8 dies of cancer. Kirstie Alley

What form of cancer?

I know what cancer caused her death - colon cancer.

So the Freewinds-asbestos connection at least can be ruled out. I'm no expert on niacin and I do not know how many times Kirstie took the purif.

 

[PirateAndBum]

14 years on Solo NOTs.

 

[guanoloco]

14 years on Solo NOTs.

Seems to be the thing.

You know...the...the thing...





































Seriously, this does seem to be the trend. Up to decades spent on 7.

 

[mimsey borogrove]

She was in many ways a free spirit. But she got lost inside the vast labyrinth of welded cult thinking, rules and values.

If the spirit lives on past the physical body and the dearly departing are "looking down" at the life they just left behind on earth, I wonder what Kirstie is thinking. If she starts to realize she was in a hoax cult she will probably think the same exact thing as every other Scientologist who has ever blown.

To wit, "WHAT THE HELL WAS I THINKING?!!!"
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Believing in past lives, that may not be what she thinks. I would rather hope she realizes her kid's lives are assured, and wonder's what's next?

There's a step on solo nots where you have a bt that doesn't want to leave, and you tell him to go in the sky and (i think - don't recall it exactly) look around and decide what to do.

I doubt she's looking to avoid the implant stations, that was so '50's.

Mimsey

 

[mimsey borogrove]

14 years on Solo NOTs.

They get into mocking up stuff to run. There's no reason it should take so long. I have heard of people knocking it out in a couple years. The C/S must have some sort of hidden standard. I knew one who was on for like 17 years - that's just nuts.

Mimsey

 

[Dotey OT]

I would like to feel bad since she passed not knowing the truth. But she allowed her celebrity to promote the cult, in fact she went above and beyond. She used her celebrity to appear to make the thing look safe. I suppose I could blame in part the one's that did not do their own diligence.

I just me with two scn'st that are still in. One said "it is amazing the number of scn die of cancer!" I just bit my lip.

 

[Dotey OT]

I know what cancer caused her death - colon cancer.

So the Freewinds-asbestos connection at least can be ruled out. I'm no expert on niacin and I do not know how many times Kirstie took the purif.

The over/under on this is three purifs.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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They get into mocking up stuff to run. There's no reason it should take so long. I have heard of people knocking it out in a couple years. The C/S must have some sort of hidden standard. I knew one who was on for like 17 years - that's just nuts.

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EXPLANATION: That individual unfortunately had BTs that used to be in the Sea Org. They were following the mandated slogan "WE COME BACK". Thus they would very successfully blow the BTs but the same ones would then "come back" the following week.


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[Dotey OT]

Seems to be the thing.

You know...the...the thing...

Seriously, this does seem to be the trend. Up to decades spent on 7.

All those years must make you really REALLY ot!!

 

[Karakorum]

The over/under on this is three purifs.

When push really comes to shove
Sauna and pills to make you forget
Leftover photos and letters of love
That niacin cancer russian roulette

A to J, working hard for that amend
To a fault we go on with our roles
It all comes crashing down in the end
Same for celebs, same for the proles

That's just how it goes

 

[Reyne Mayer]

She made it to 71 years old. That is a full life.

someone of her means in 21st century America, should live a decade longer than that on average. but it seems like scns live about a decade less than average, and isn't that a shame not to get to fully enjoy the golden years?

 

[SuperstarNeilC]

 

[Karakorum]

They get into mocking up stuff to run. There's no reason it should take so long. I have heard of people knocking it out in a couple years. The C/S must have some sort of hidden standard. I knew one who was on for like 17 years - that's just nuts.

Mimsey

I knew a guy who was 20 years on solo NOTs. The reason he stopped was because he dropped the body, otherwise he'd probably go past the 21 year mark.

 

[Lee #28]

I don't particularly agree - I'm 75 and look forward to more years of life. I think she would have preferred to be alive. It's a damn shame. Mimsey

Yes....I agree. Especially for someone that could afford the finest of care ......if desired. And especially for a woman...

But....she did the 3 score and 10..... So there is that.

One has to be sedated for a Colonoscopy.....so that may have been the " Scientology " reason for not getting that exam.... ( no doubt.)

 

[SuperstarNeilC]

 

[mimsey borogrove]

Rolling Stone commissioned Tony to write about Kristie:
GOING CLEAR

How Kirstie Alley Lost Herself in Scientology
The late Cheers actress rose up the ranks to become a top Scientologist who lashed out at the controversial religion’s critics.
BY TONY ORTEGA

How Kirstie Alley Lost Herself in Scientology

The late Cheers actress rose up the ranks to become a top Scientologist who lashed out at the controversial religion’s critics.

www.rollingstone.com

 

[mimsey borogrove]

Yes....I agree. Especially for someone that could afford the finest of care ......if desired. And especially for a woman...

But....she did the 3 score and 10..... So there is that.

One has to be sedated for a Colonoscopy.....so that may have been the " Scientology " reason for not getting that exam.... ( no doubt.)

Mmm - I have had them with no comment from my c/s. Plus you are should regularly submit stool samples to keep an eye on it.


How fast does colon cancer spread? Colorectal cancer tends to spread to the liver and lungs 2 years after initial cancer surgery. A 2018 study looked at Swedish people with colorectal cancer.Nov 3, 2020

What You Need to Know About the Stages of Colon Cancer, from 0 to 4

Learn about the stages of colon cancer. Get informed about cancer grades, screening tests, how the cancer stage affects treatment, and more.

www.healthline.com

 

[Karen#1]

What form of cancer?

First of all it is always sad, really sad when someone passes still in the trap and imprisoned in this hideous cult without having woken up.

I had a leak that it was bowel cancer. ( colon cancer.)

2ND OF ALL, it is beneficial to the cult to say "short cancer spell and death."
I do not believe this "shore story" for a moment.
WHY ?
#1 It gets the cult off the hook of exposing their BT/CLuster handlings on Kirstie for months and months likely when cancer diagnosed.
#2 It portrays that the cult send people to medicine pronto.
#3 It hides the fact that Kirstie audited her attacked spirits over a period of 20-30 years according to others who were "on the level" with her at the sandcastle by telling the "shore story" of fast pacing volcanic cancer that arose and killed promptly.

In actual fact modern medicine have extraordinary ways to keep someone alive for a while with cancer and *sudden* cancer deaths are few and far between.
I know the adopted 2 children said that but you can bet it was carefully crafted with OSA editing

 

[onceuponatime]

They get into mocking up stuff to run. There's no reason it should take so long. I have heard of people knocking it out in a couple years. The C/S must have some sort of hidden standard. I knew one who was on for like 17 years - that's just nuts.

Mimsey

I have heard in recent years that they make more of an effort to get people done and not have it drag on for 20+ years, but in the not too distant past it was more common. I can think of multiple people who were on it for 20+ years, happily auditing along.


I think it's always sad when a Scientologist passes away without waking up. Considering who she was and how she behaved/attacked critics I find it hard to feel real sadness, I just think it's unfortunate. Her death highlights the problem Scientology has with OTs dying of cancer. It's not like all Scientologists die around 70 years old from cancer, but it's kinda starting to feel that way. To be clear, I don't think Scientology is causing the cancer, I think it's the general disdain Scientologists have for the medical field that causes them to skip checkups and screenings. Then the cancer gets caught late and we wind up here. Maybe there were some symptoms but in typical Scientology fashion they don't go see an MD, they get an assist/review program and continue with their life.

With how many Scientologists have been dying of cancer I wonder if there is going to be a change and a push to get people to MDs for general checkups and to check things out. I have heard that in recent years there has been more of a push to send PCs with medical problems to an MD. HCOB Physically Ill PCs and Pre-OTs does exist after all. Of course Scientologists ignore it for the most part and still expect auditing to magically handle everything.