What is the post of Diana Hubbard in the Sea Org?

[Karen#1]

Quentin died at 22 yrs old, I do believe it was suicide because he had tried to kill himself 2x previously on the Apollo.

BUT

No mercy no compassion, no forgiveness, no understanding, no redeeming attribute that you would say "its a church"
Hubbard had Quentin RPFd (mind control POW camp) for attempting suicide !!!
I loved Quentin. RIP.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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Because my e-meter is currently up-lines to get silver-cert'ed--I am not able to 100% scientifically confirm my memory of being there when that photo was taken. All of ASHO staff execs and students were suddenly ordered to evacuate building and muster out on the sidewalk in front. The occasion was that Diana needed to go outside the org to put some money in her parking meter.

Naturally there were Sea Org escorts, swords and a sustained standing ovation once she made it go right and the (parking) meter needle made a smooth rhythmic sweep much like an F/N.

Upon closer inspection, I am quite impressed, actually, because the loyal officer (screen right) is obviously holding magical invisible sword. Does anyone know the LRH reference where he gives us the tech of making things invisible?

Well, anyways, after the the meter flap was totally handled and the loud chanting "HIP-HIP-HOORAYS" had stopped, we were all ordered to write SUCCESS STORIES about witnessing Diana's paranormal parking powers. So, all things considered this was an unprecedented 4th Dynamic Win.

postscript: Sadly my Success Story what was due to be published in the launch issue of "ADVANCED PARKING!" magazine, they canceled-- when it came up during a sec check that I sometimes harbored critical thoughts of Diana as a cross between two other similarly effete and risible red-herring, red hair-ing royalty.

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Sorry to be so brutally honest, but for the past 79 trillion years I have always slightly disliked having to salute paranormal princesses whose only known "achievement" is being born to a mystically magical miracle-making Meitreyya messiah.

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[marra]

Yeah. I don't know if you are expecting some kind of OMFG! reaction. I don't know about the others here, but I would think it's common knowledge (with ESMB types) that DM is (apparently) responsible for all kinds of fraudulent actions regarding Hubbard and his intellectual properties. That Hubbard was murdered is also a possibility, but any evidence for that that I've seen is very flimsily circumstantial (prior DM statement and timing; also RVY essay), far more so than the oh-so-convenient timing of the pre-death paperwork and associated dubious signatures.

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I was a California notary for 6 years. There is very little personal handwriting a notary leaves behind on a notarised document, typically the date, notary's name, signer(s)' name(s), notary's signature. That some handwriting expert can definitively prove that DM wrote Hubbard's signature is ridiculous. Graphological "identification" is not like fingerprint identification, or DNA identification.

No I wasn't expecting a reaction. I was simply adding to the debate. O Tease said he/she didn't think LRH would sign over his interests to anyone but his family so I repeated this information in case O Tease hadn't seen it before.

I also forgot to mention that in Jesse Prince's book The Expert Witness he said that Int Management personnel, including DM, used to compete to see who could do the best LRH signature.

Of course none of this is proof of anything, I just think it is relevant information.

 

[O Tease]

No I wasn't expecting a reaction. I was simply adding to the debate. O Tease said he/she didn't think LRH would sign over his interests to anyone but his family so I repeated this information in case O Tease hadn't seen it before.

I also forgot to mention that in Jesse Prince's book The Expert Witness he said that Int Management personnel, including DM, used to compete to see who could do the best LRH signature.

Of course none of this is proof of anything, I just think it is relevant information.

"DM, used to compete to see who could do the best LRH signature."
WOW! Whatta prelude of things to come!!! Great information marra!

 

[O Tease]

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Because my e-meter is currently up-lines to get silver-cert'ed--I am not able to 100% scientifically confirm my memory of being there when that photo was taken. All of ASHO staff execs and students were suddenly ordered to evacuate building and muster out on the sidewalk in front. The occasion was that Diana needed to go outside the org to put some money in her parking meter.

Naturally there were Sea Org escorts, swords and a sustained standing ovation once she made it go right and the (parking) meter needle made a smooth rhythmic sweep much like an F/N.

Upon closer inspection, I am quite impressed, actually, because the loyal officer (screen right) is obviously holding magical invisible sword. Does anyone know the LRH reference where he gives us the tech of making things invisible?

Well, anyways, after the the meter flap was totally handled and the loud chanting "HIP-HIP-HOORAYS" had stopped, we were all ordered to write SUCCESS STORIES about witnessing Diana's paranormal parking powers. So, all things considered this was an unprecedented 4th Dynamic Win.

postscript: Sadly my Success Story what was due to be published in the launch issue of "ADVANCED PARKING!" magazine, they canceled-- when it came up during a sec check that I sometimes harbored critical thoughts of Diana as a cross between two other similarly effete and risible red-herring, red hair-ing royalty.

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Sorry to be so brutally honest, but for the past 79 trillion years I have always slightly disliked having to salute paranormal princesses whose only known "achievement" is being born to a mystically magical miracle-making Meitreyya messiah.

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Hilarious! So, essentially Dianna stays involved because Scientology is the only place where she can play make believe that she's a princess and everyone else will play along. I've thought she was hanging on to SCN as a via to hanging on to her father being that it was his world. A good friend of mine went to The Apollo in the 70's because he wanted to meet Ron, he only saw him but never did meet him. My friend was a musician and star struck to see Stanley Clark had a cabin near his and would sometimes peer out when he heard commotion outside his door. He said he saw Dianna visiting Stanley in the late of night on a couple of occasions. Clark was married but it could have just been friendly visits, who knows?

 

[Deleted member 51]

IMO, Diana stayed in Scientology because it was what she knew and she wasn't or isn't strong enough to change. From the stories I've heard of all the Hubbard children, Diana was the least independent.

From Jon Horwich I was once told that Diana had a different boyfriend when they first met, but Hubbard preferred Jon because of his money and education and because he was a talented sound engineer and an asset to the cult. Hubbard did all he could to promote the relationship with Jon. Diana was eventually convinced, decided she loved Jon and married him. They lasted a few years.

Diana was young then, in her 20s. At one time she had aspirations to be a musician, but the constant promotion of her songs and album by the cult of Scientology was ridiculous. Diana was pretty good, but certainly not great as either a singer or pianist. Her album had a lot of help from Stanley Clarke and Chick Corea, too. Diana came across as arrogant and that was the general opinion of her in those days, though I don't know if that opinion was earned by her behavior or her preferential treatment by Hubbard (except as an executive, apparently). Like Hubbard, there were ridiculous, unsubstantiated claims to her personal accomplishments and genius. Her description on her album covers claims she started writing sonatas for piano at the age of 6. I'm sure SOMEone would have remembered that, right? Typical Scientology false brags.https://www.angelair.co.uk/?tcp_product=diana-hubbard-lifetimes

Diana was born in 1952. Her album came out in 1979. That was the only independence she ever showed that I ever heard, quickly snuffed out by the time she reached her 30s. Rumor was that she was L Ron's favorite. Over the years I've heard others confirm this and nobody ever denied it.

So she could very well have stayed in COS out of loyalty to her father, but I think she just wasn't strong enough to go anywhere and had no ambition to do anything of her own since her one album, either.

 

[Deleted member 51]

One of the comments on her YouTube vid recording of Rose Colored Lights:

"I met Diana in 1985 at Big Blue. It wasn't called that then. I was an Honor Guard at a Sea Org event she was speaking at. I forgot to turn on the light switch when she reached the podium, and she began speaking in the dark. She did not like me because of that. Afterwards, she asked me, "What evil wind brought you here?" My bad. Sorry, Diana."

Lol.

 

[Karen#1]

Diana was the only offspring that had a reserved seat by Hubbard. She was his favorite.

 

[O Tease]

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Because my e-meter is currently up-lines to get silver-cert'ed--I am not able to 100% scientifically confirm my memory of being there when that photo was taken. All of ASHO staff execs and students were suddenly ordered to evacuate building and muster out on the sidewalk in front. The occasion was that Diana needed to go outside the org to put some money in her parking meter.

Naturally there were Sea Org escorts, swords and a sustained standing ovation once she made it go right and the (parking) meter needle made a smooth rhythmic sweep much like an F/N.

Upon closer inspection, I am quite impressed, actually, because the loyal officer (screen right) is obviously holding magical invisible sword. Does anyone know the LRH reference where he gives us the tech of making things invisible?

Well, anyways, after the the meter flap was totally handled and the loud chanting "HIP-HIP-HOORAYS" had stopped, we were all ordered to write SUCCESS STORIES about witnessing Diana's paranormal parking powers. So, all things considered this was an unprecedented 4th Dynamic Win.

postscript: Sadly my Success Story what was due to be published in the launch issue of "ADVANCED PARKING!" magazine, they canceled-- when it came up during a sec check that I sometimes harbored critical thoughts of Diana as a cross between two other similarly effete and risible red-herring, red hair-ing royalty.

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In the 1st pict I couldn't figure out why she looked so familiar but then realized she looked exactly like a female Ronald McDonald. One couldn't invent a more perfect sister or girlfriend for Ronald Mac if one tried, pure white skin, flaming red hair... Oh well, I'm sure she was and is a very nice person, it was just an accident of birth that put her in the position she is in.

 

[O Tease]

I put belligerent baboons on ignore. If I thought Paul was one I'd never see his posts. Like I'll never see another of yours.

Just to eliminate any confusion, I'm actually a huge Paul Adams fan and have long admired him for his work. Especially the work he's done with Roger B., plus his robot auditing work. He's a huge asset to us all. We can all get grouchy once in a while, especially me.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

"I met Diana in 1985 at Big Blue. It wasn't called that then. I was an Honor Guard at a Sea Org event she was speaking at. I forgot to turn on the light switch when she reached the podium, and she began speaking in the dark. She did not like me because of that. Afterwards, she asked me, "What evil wind brought you here?" My bad. Sorry, Diana."

Wait, I am confused.

Was that fact or fiction?

LOL, I can't tell if this is just ridiculous satire or ridiculous scientology, they are virtually identical. (Poe's Law?)

GRATUITOUS COMMENTARY: When Diana "began speaking in the dark" it would not have made any difference if you turned the lights on---she still would have been speaking in the dark. This is what happens when you are born into an advanced scientific culture.

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[No One]

I know this will sound outrageous but let it sink in.
"Since L Ron Hubbard hisself put darling daughter Diana on the "Never to be Posted as an Exec Again" list..." - Sheila
Isn't this LRH's typical mode of operation in that he would put out some subterfuge such as this prior to posting Diana as an exec? She doesn't come and go freely around there without good reason. Wouldn't surprise me if she's been the real COB all along while using Miscavige as her stooge as convoluted as that seems. The Hubbard family would seem a devious and treacherous one and whatever appears to be the case rarely is. I'm just speculating but nothing surprises me anymore. His pretense that he wasn't running the show would clearly be the plan in place for another family member to secretly take things over for the same reasons.

I would say this is definitely not the scenario. From what very little time I saw Diana, or Suzette for that matter, she was subservient to DM without question. He held the power she was junior, regardless of Hubbard name and lineage .

 

[O Tease]

I would say this is definitely not the scenario. From what very little time I saw Diana, or Suzette for that matter, she was subservient to DM without question. He held the power she was junior, regardless of Hubbard name and lineage .

I'm glad people like you have been sharing their relevant experiences and perspectives on this which has brought much greater clarity to me regarding. Thanks

 

[O Tease]

Diana believes very much that Miscavige has "saved" Scientology and that he pulled off the tax exemption.
She is allowed on and off the base with a free pass.

She has never been in SP hole
She was raised on a ship where staff were thrown overboard for minor offenses so she sees nothing wrong with abusive punishment.
She believes she is being loyal to her father by staying the course.

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"She is allowed on and off the base with a free pass."
Could she be making trips to the laundry and getting her inheritance as it's been funneled through the church for tax free purposes? Most wealthy people I've known are very concerned about losing half their lifetimes monetary accumulation to federal & state taxes and look for creative solutions..... LRH was more obsessed with keeping the prying eyes of government out of his business than anyone plus more prone to bizarre solutions than anyone else.

 

[Type4_PTS]

"She is allowed on and off the base with a free pass."
Could she be making trips to the laundry and getting her inheritance as it's been funneled through the church for tax free purposes? Most wealthy people I've known are very concerned about losing half their lifetimes monetary accumulation to federal & state taxes and look for creative solutions..... LRH was more obsessed with keeping the prying eyes of government out of his business than anyone plus more prone to bizarre solutions than anyone else.

Hi O Tease, and welcome!

While there is some truth to what you write, I see zero evidence that LRH was in control of his own life and/or finances at the end.

And I seriously doubt he was sufficiently mentally competent to make changes to his will in the couple days prior to his departure to Target Two.

 

[O Tease]

Hi O Tease, and welcome!

While there is some truth to what you write, I see zero evidence that LRH was in control of his own life and/or finances at the end.

And I seriously doubt he was sufficiently mentally competent to make changes to his will in the couple days prior to his departure to Target Two.

Thank you. I think LRH had his plans to avoid as much taxation as possible set in place for decades and that aspect wouldn't have been changed at the very end, just that the bulk of his wealth would go to or through the church where it would go tax free due to church status. Most wealthy people would love to have such a tax exempt vehicle at their disposal. If anyone could create a convoluted way to launder his estate and render it entirely tax exempt it would be LRH, with his heirs the beneficiaries. I guess one would have to see first hand what his heirs are making off with when they come and go freely to ever really know for certain how it's all REALLY been set up. My perspective is that things are NEVER as they seem in or around Scientology.

 

[Paul Adams]

L. Ron Hubbard Estate Valued at $26 Million

L.

www.latimes.com

Per the above Hubbard effectively left $1.3 mill (peanuts really) plus undisclosed trust fund amounts to family members. I'm certainly no expert, but wouldn't DM's, er, potential hanky-panky have extended to ripping off those trust funds too, leaving a nominal amount in them?

$1.3 mill is a tiny amount to have accumulated, all things considered.

 

[PirateAndBum]

I recall reading his will a few years back. The kids and Mary Sue each got $100,000. Nibs and Alexis were specifically excluded. Not much of an family inheritance. Everything went to the cult. Thus the tax consequences were minuscule.

 

[O Tease]

I recall reading his will a few years back. The kids and Mary Sue each got $100,000. Nibs and Alexis were specifically excluded. Not much of an family inheritance. Everything went to the cult. Thus the tax consequences were minuscule.

Or is all that just another shore story and if Scientology isn't the ultimate money laundering operation, this time for the benefit of Hubbard's heirs, Not that we'll ever know... I couldn't live on $100,000 dollars could you? Yet they all seem to be living just fine.

 

[Deleted member 51]

L. Ron Hubbard Estate Valued at $26 Million

L.

www.latimes.com

Per the above Hubbard effectively left $1.3 mill (peanuts really) plus undisclosed trust fund amounts to family members. I'm certainly no expert, but wouldn't DM's, er, potential hanky-panky have extended to ripping off those trust funds too, leaving a nominal amount in them?

$1.3 mill is a tiny amount to have accumulated, all things considered.

I recall reading his will a few years back. The kids and Mary Sue each got $100,000. Nibs and Alexis were specifically excluded. Not much of an family inheritance. Everything went to the cult. Thus the tax consequences were minuscule.

That's incredibly disgusting.

If you think of it in terms of value of services given, every adult year in that cult, any Sea Org member should have been paid at least $50,000 per year and these were LRH's KIDS and WIFE! The Church of Scientology is rolling in money. Mary Sue went to jail for L Ron and the cult for years. How cheap and mean can DM possibly get?

Absolutely EVIL.

I always suspected that the boys (Arthur and Quentin) were emotionally abused by Hubbard as children. Certainly Nibs was. I think DM did his best to smash them all into the ground. He didn't want any competition, did he? With the exception of Suzette, it's not like they had much in the way of real life skills or real life education, and Suzette made her own way despite these obstacles.

Wow, were they all ripped off.