this my soapbox, like it or not. This is my fight with the Lord Marshall aka Hubbard and his Falko DM.
this my soapbox, like it or not. This is my fight with the Lord Marshall aka Hubbard and his Falko DM.
.Oh, how about this for creepy?
1. I was young and naive and was enthralled with the pseudo-science.This a exscientology message board. The simple question to ask yourself, is how you were persuaded to be a member or follower or think dianetics or scientology works?
Ask yourself what first persuaded you? Was it ethos, was it pathos, was it logos? Or maybe it was a combination of the 1 or 2 or 3, maybe 1 or 2 or 3.
Here's something on logic, or logos:
boolean logic - Google Search
www.google.com
This a exscientology message board. The simple question to ask yourself, is how you were persuaded to be a member or follower or think dianetics or scientology works?
Ask yourself what first persuaded you? Was it ethos, was it pathos, was it logos? Or maybe it was a combination of the 1 or 2 or 3, maybe 1 or 2 or 3.
Here's something on logic, or logos:
boolean logic - Google Search
www.google.com
.This a ex-scientology message board. The simple question to ask yourself, is how you were persuaded to be a member or follower or think dianetics or scientology works?
Ah, send them all to the Ethics thread. They can spend days on an Ethics cycle and come back shiny clean and ready to go..
Here is what I really like and what I don't really like about this RHETORIC thread.
RIDDICK
Recall a time when Ron used Rhetoric.
ESMB MEMBER
Okay, the time Ron use ethos and lied about being a nuclear
physicist, war hero, doctor and research scientist.
RIDDICK
Thank you. Recall another time when Ron used Rhetoric.
ESMB MEMBER
Jeez, we've been running this process today
for over 7 hours, I really can't find any more.
RIDDICK
Well, I certainly accept your answer that you
cannot find any more. But, I want you
to take another look at that.
(pc closes eyes, concentrates as
Riddick looks down at something)
There! What was that?! That!
That! That! That! That! That!
That! That! That! That!
ESMB MEMBER
I couldn't find anything.
I don't want to do this any more.
RIDDICK
I got that. That's fine, but the only reason
a person gives up the study of Rhetoric
is because of an MU. Let's take a look
at that in the big dictionary!
3 HOURS LATER
ESMB MEMBER MOCKS UP "GOOD INDICATORS"
"Wow! Vroom! Zoom! Zowie!
I suddenly feel really good about the word Rhetoric!!!
Do you think I can i get my keys back and go home now?
.
you might realize, or maybe not, those links are basically offshoots of rhetoric just explained differently.As I acknowledged, rhetoric did play a major role in persuading me. But it wasn't the only factor.
A major factor that influenced me when I got involved had nothing to do with Hubbard's rhetoric. I was influenced by the other members at Boston Org. There is a concept known as "social proof". You can see some information on it here. I've not read this whole article so don't know if it's good or not, but will provide more information in the coming days as I have time:
Social proof - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
This page mentions it as well:
How To Start A Cult
How To Start A Cult
A Brief Overview Of Everything You Need To Create And Sustain Your Very Own Cultmindpersuasion.com
that's funny HH. It's kind of funny because Hubbard said one can use scientology to get rid of scientology, only thing he left out was his use of rhetoric so it can be difficult for some..
Here is what I really like about this RHETORIC thread. The rest not so much.
RIDDICK
Recall a time when Ron used Rhetoric.
ESMB MEMBER
Okay, the time Ron use ethos and lied about being a nuclear
physicist, war hero, doctor, ingenious research scientist,
planetary savior and mankind's greatest friend.
RIDDICK
Thank you. Recall another time when Ron used Rhetoric.
ESMB MEMBER
Jeez, we've been running this process today
for over 7 hours, I really can't find any more.
RIDDICK
Well, I certainly accept your answer that you
cannot find any more. But, I want you
to take another look at that.
(pc closes eyes, concentrates as
Riddick looks down at something)
There! What was that?! That!
That! That! That! That! That!
That! That! That! That!
ESMB MEMBER
I couldn't find anything.
I don't want to do this any more.
RIDDICK
I got that. That's fine, but the only reason
a person gives up the study of Rhetoric
is because of an MU. Let's take a look
at that in the big dictionary!
3 HOURS LATER
ESMB MEMBER MOCKS UP "GOOD INDICATORS"
"Wow! Vroom! Zoom! Zowie!
I suddenly feel really good about the word Rhetoric!!!
Do you think I can i get my keys back and go home now?
.
.that's funny HH. It's kind of funny because Hubbard said one can use scientology to get rid of scientology, only thing he left out was his use of rhetoric so it can be difficult for some.
Do you recall when you were first persuaded?
"A major factor that influenced me when I got involved had nothing to do with Hubbard's rhetoric. I was influenced by the other members at Boston Org."As I acknowledged, rhetoric did play a major role in persuading me. But it wasn't the only factor.
A major factor that influenced me when I got involved had nothing to do with Hubbard's rhetoric. I was influenced by the other members at Boston Org. There is a concept known as "social proof". You can see some information on it here. I've not read this whole article so don't know if it's good or not, but will provide more information in the coming days as I have time:
Social proof - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org
This page mentions it as well:
How To Start A Cult
How To Start A Cult
A Brief Overview Of Everything You Need To Create And Sustain Your Very Own Cultmindpersuasion.com
Thank God Hubbard's book's and lectures are not required in public schools, that would be a scientology world..
Sure, I recall.
When I was a young teen, I did not know that adults, best selling authors, war heroes, doctors & nuclear scientists could lie, trick, cheat, steal and defraud.
Public schools don't teach children about pathological liars, con men & sociopaths.
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Here is a transcript of RJ67:Here is Hubbard's rhetoric speech, RJ 67, when the Sea Org first began. So, here we are in 2021 and yet nobody has gone clear or OT or returned from life. It's a bunch of rhetoric to persuade.
Shoot, the Hubbard has died and not returned, LOL
Hmmm, not exactly..., but the concept of social proof doesn't really accurately describe the phenomena I was wishing to address. But I'm heading to sleep soon so will .maybe post about it at another time.you might realize, or maybe not, those links are basically offshoots of rhetoric just explained differently.