Self-appointed Indi ethics officer trolls for kicks

I told you I was trouble said:
You know very well that the overall message board is for EX scientologists ..
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I'm sorry, you are mistaken on that one particular point, like a number of others posting here.

PirateAndBum said:
Emma early on in the life of ESMB, Emma posted this as her hope for what ESMB would be,

This is also the hope for ESMB Redux.

What this board is:

A place where ex scientologists and interested general public can get together to discuss various experiences in Scientology.

A place where where ex's and non ex's can mingle and chat and get to know how the other half think and live.
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This does not mean I'm not getting pissed off with this guy Cuitlahauc's distractor-bot antics. :mad:
 
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TheSneakster said:
Also, only a qualified and posted LRH Communicator can approve Court or Comm Ev Findings and Recommendations for publication (that is called "Issue Authority"), and you sure as f*ck aren't one of them, either.
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Quite rightly, but this is the independent field and it is none other than LRH who said one has to apply Scientology ethics not only on the independent field but also on the wogs:


ADMINISTRATION OUTSIDE SCIENTOLOGY

You will find, oddly and weirdly enough, that if you fail to use Scientology admin and Dev-T policies on the society outside Scientology that trouble will occur.

If you just make it a blind rule to always do so, you will avert much trouble and upset.

Never fail to use Scientology Admin or Justice to handle the individuals in the society beyond our edges. Sounds adventurous. Well, it is! But effective, too.

HCO POLICY LETTER OF 2 APRIL 1965
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TrevAnon said:
Also, I now would like to know my crimes.
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Well, whatever country you live in, you have to pay taxes. And you must know that those taxes go to pay politicians, and as far as it appears, there is no single country that is not run by a bunch of corrupt, pedophile, child sacrificing and Crowley addorator politicians. You pay them. There is your answer to the question. You can apply to yourself the ethics condition you see fit.
 
Cuitlahuac Rivas said:
Quite rightly, but this is the independent field and it is none other than LRH who said one has to apply Scientology ethics not only on the independent field but also on the wogs:
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No matter where you apply it, it never works. The way you apply it is a joke.

However, if you really, really, really, really, REALLY believe it works ... it still doesn't work.
 
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TrevAnon said:
So they are together in 1 picture. Doesn't prove anything other than that they may know each other.

Or what are you trying to say, or imply?
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Lotz apparently believed that this guy was the reincarnated L. Ron Hubbard. Apparently, he still believes it but has withdrawn support anyway - out ethics, out policy, out tech, and all that.

Perhaps a new explanation, which would satisfy Scientologists, puzzled by this whole thing, would be that the Hubbard thetan picked up a dozen bodies, on as many planets; and, on this planet (Teegeeack), in Sector Nine of this galaxy, he, unfortunately, picked up one with a bad brain.

Many bodies? Sure. Hubbard is such a BIG BEING that he can do that.

It's pure silliness.

But it's not a crime to be silly.
 
Cuitlahuac Rivas said:
No. There are 3 SP declares for David at the Free Scientology Ethics FB group. The first of them was already posted here.
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We want to see your take on Miscavige. Is his Ethics out?

Post your report here please.
 
Type4_PTS said:
Where was the Court of Ethics held? Was Trey Lotz present?

Was he even informed (prior) that a Court of Ethics would be held on him?
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A Court of Ethics on the independent field has to be conducted over the internet. There might be no physical place.

Trey was being handled on this by his peers and decided that he had already handled what he had to handle. That is why the Court of Ethics was done.

The remaining auditors involved in the Justin Craig flap will be dully informed of their Ethics Court.
 
HelluvaHoax! said:
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Quite fortunately I just got my e-meter back from up-lines where it was silver-certed. Thus I am able to help STANDARDLY get an answer to your question:

L&N
"WHO/WHAT KIND OF PERSON
WOULD WANT TO DO THAT?
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A cos OSA thug. tic​
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A cutting edge satirist. tic​
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A loyal officer* who is still hiding in remote jungles and fighting on for their ​
Emperor Commodore--still refusing to believe in a straggling-com-laggling way​
that the cult lost the war 3 decades ago. LFBD F/N​
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* link to full story: "Hiroo Onoda was the last Japanese soldier to come out of hiding and surrender, almost 30 years after the end of the second world war. Onoda. an army intelligence officer, caused a sensation when he was finally persuaded to come out of hiding in the Philippine jungle in 1974. Onoda’s three decades spent in the jungle – initially with three comrades and finally alone – came to be seen as an example of the extraordinary lengths to which some Japanese soldiers would go to demonstrate their loyalty to the then emperor, in whose name they fought. Refusing to believe that the war had ended with Japan’s defeat in August 1945, Onoda drew on his training in guerilla warfare to kill as many as 30 people whom he mistakenly believed to be enemy soldiers. . . . . . . ."
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Here have my sucess story before anything happens H.H. for your stat:

Sure HH's e-meter silver-certed from up-lines is working nicelly. I wouldn't be FNing and have VGIs if not for H H care for his tools. :hyper: :hyper: :hyper:
 
Veda said:


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Lotz apparently believed that this guy was the reincarnated L. Ron Hubbard. Apparently, he still believes it but has withdrawn support anyway - out ethics, out policy, out tech, and all that.

Perhaps a new explanation, which would satisfy Scientologists, puzzled by this whole thing, would be that the Hubbard thetan picked up a dozen bodies, on as many planets; and, on this planet (Teegeeack), in Sector Nine of this galaxy, he, unfortunately, picked up one with a bad brain.

Many bodies? Sure. Hubbard is such a BIG BEING that he can do that.

It's pure silliness.

But it's not a crime to be silly.
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LOL. You are not totally lost to buddhism Veda... :roflmao:
 
Cuitlahuac Rivas said:
A Court of Ethics on the independent field has to be conducted over the internet. There might be no physical place.

Trey was being handled on this by his peers and decided that he had already handled what he had to handle. That is why the Court of Ethics was done.

The remaining auditors involved in the Justin Craig flap will be dully informed of their Ethics Court.
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You failed to answer two out of my three questions.

Was Trey Lotz present?

Was he even informed (prior) that a Court of Ethics would be held on him?
 
Cuitlahuac Rivas said:
A Court of Ethics on the independent field has to be conducted over the internet. There might be no physical place.

Trey was being handled on this by his peers and decided that he had already handled what he had to handle. That is why the Court of Ethics was done.

The remaining auditors involved in the Justin Craig flap will be dully informed of their Ethics Court.
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One really nice thing about the "independent field" is that no one has any power, including you.

You can rant and posture and pretend in all your pompousness but you can't actually do anything or have any effect.

And that's good.
 
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One really nice thing about the "independent field" is that no one has any power, including you. You can rant and posture and pretend in all your pompousness but you can't actually do anything or have any effect. And that's good.
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No one has any power? That's where you are totally wrong, my friend!

I am not trying to make you wrong or invalidate your knowingness---however I would like to respectfully ask that you kindly re-read the ethics order:

"Ron's Org Commanding Officer Grenchen warned Trey Lotz that he was in violation​
of vital PLs like KSW and the Hidden Data Line, in his support for Justin Craig.​

Bill, I know you are a Grade IV, so you won't get all Ser-Fac-y on me. I am also fairly sure you know what the term "Commanding Officer" means. But do you honestly realize how high on the command channel that is.

LRH, in his wisdom, did not just assign people to "Commanding Officer" posts willy-nilly. Such a promotion is a deadly serious activity as it can (if not handled ethically/standardly) collapse a unit, department, division, zone, region, planet or sector of the universe.

Bill, may I ask? Have you ever personally met or been in the presence of a Sea Org Commanding Officer. If so you will know that their theta presence is quite overwhelming. It happened to me once that I was in an elevator at Flag and a Commanding Officer stepped in. I was actually alone with her. She just looked at me and the sensation was so powerful that I could not get any auditing for 11 weeks after that (persistent floating TA).

Bill, if you have done at least thru OT III, your perception is huge enough that you can simply do a Google search for "Sea Org Commanding Officer" and look at their photo. Then you'll feel the power and you'll know what I am talking about.

I think we should all be pretty relieved that an Indie Scientologist has taken time out of their busy schedule to put ethics in on this planet.

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HelluvaHoax! said:
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No one has any power? That's where you are totally wrong, my friend!

I am not trying to make you wrong or invalidate your knowingness---however I would like to respectfully ask that you kindly re-read the ethics order:

"Ron's Org Commanding Officer Grenchen warned Trey Lotz that he was in violation​
of vital PLs like KSW and the Hidden Data Line, in his support for Justin Craig.​

Bill, I know you are a Grade IV, so you won't get all Ser-Fac-y on me. I am also fairly sure you know what the term "Commanding Officer" means. But do you honestly realize how high on the command channel that is.

LRH, in his wisdom, did not just assign people to "Commanding Officer" posts willy-nilly. Such a promotion is a deadly serious activity as it can (if not handled ethically/standardly) collapse a unit, department, division, zone, region, planet or sector of the universe.

Bill, may I ask? Have you ever personally met or been in the presence of a Sea Org Commanding Officer. If so you will know that their theta presence is quite overwhelming. It happened to me once that I was in an elevator at Flag and a Commanding Officer stepped in. I was actually alone with her. She just looked at me and the sensation was so powerful that I could not get any auditing for 11 weeks after that (persistent floating TA).

Bill, if you have done at least thru OT III, your perception is huge enough that you can simply do a Google search for "Sea Org Commanding Officer" and look at their photo. Then you'll feel the power and you'll know what I am talking about.

I think we should all be pretty relieved that an Indie Scientologist has taken time out of their busy schedule to put ethics in on this planet.

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It's the lanyards. So sexy, so powerful. Where ever the person wearing them goes, those golden braids scream, "I'm in charge here!"
 
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