Scientologirl - New Independent Scientologist

The back and forth I was referring to was the stratty <-> TheSneakster wrangle, not the general discussion going on.
Say what? I don't recall any 'wrangle', I was responding to Scientologirl in a perfectly calm and amiable manner and he chose to butt in and try and muddy the water between us (like saying I was trying to 'run off a new member', which is complete bollocks) whereupon I told him I wasn't going to deal with him any more and didn't post anything else. It was none of his goddamn business to begin with!
 
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The bottom line is, if people are here and angry, either they've done wrong or they've been wronged, and now finally, they could have witnessed others being wronged.
I don't know who all these 'angry people' you are referring to are, but as far as I can tell, people are here because a lot of them were once dedicated scientologists (a bit like you) and discovered (after spending a lot of their precious time and money) that it failed to produce the results it promised and they now provide valuable first-hand information to people who come here out of curiosity for example.

Of course I could be wrong, but I think there's a fairly good chance that, maybe not today, maybe not tomorrow, but eventually, you might find yourself in the place we here find ourselves in and think to yourself 'well, if I'd have listened to them I could have saved myself a whole lot of grief and aggravation'. If it's working for you now that's all to the good, we've all been there, but now we are definitely happier (not sadder), and much wiser.
 
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...I'm talking about the upper levels here, where Hubbard really goes off on flights of fancy about disembodied beings throwing tractor beams around and blowing up planets in some previous existence in another sector of the galaxy trillions of years ago). In the final analysis sweetie pie, it's all bollocks, sorry to disappoint you.


Oh shit! I was sorry to hear that it's all bollocks. Very disappointing!

However, I notice that you did not include anything about evil OTs pulling the air cover off this planet--so obviously that's not bollocks. Thus, I am still excited about continuing on my Bridge To Total Freedom.

In the future, once I attain my miraculous OT powers, I'm going to stop SPs from pulling the air cover off by using my tractor beams. Any OT can do this quite easily.

The wins I am having in Scientology are unbelievable, I hope everyone is getting daily auditing and training like me. We can clear this mudball, people, if we just use our total knowingness, tone 40 postulates and tractor beams!

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Oh shit! I was sorry to hear that it's all bollocks. Very disappointing!

However, I notice that you did not include anything about evil OTs pulling the air cover off this planet. Thus, I am still excited about continuing on my Bridge To Total Freedom. Once I attain those miraculous OT powers, I'm going to use my tractor beams to prevent anyone from pulling the air cover off this planet!

The wins I am having in Scientology are unbelievable, I hope everyone is getting daily auditing and training like me. We can clear this mudball, people, if we just use our postulates!
Yes, it's wonderful isn't it HH? The things Ron has done for us, putting aside all thoughts of his own enrichment and working tirelessly for the salvation of all mankind. Really, I'm simply not worthy enough to wipe his bottom after he's been to the lavatory!

Keep your TR's in HH, and remember, The Way Out Is The Way Through - or is it The Way Through Is The Way Out, I can't quite remember!
 
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Yes, it's wonderful isn't it HH? The things Ron has done for us, putting aside all thoughts of his own enrichment and working tirelessly for the salvation of all mankind. Really, I'm simply not worthy enough to wipe his bottom after he's been to the lavatory!

Keep your TR's in HH, and remember, The Way Out Is The Way Through - or is it The Way Through Is The Way Out, I can't quite remember!

Dude, I know you mean well, but CLEAR YOUR MU'S!!!

The only reason a being cannot get Scientology to work is a misunderstood word.

It is obvious that the reason no being (including Hubbard himself) could ever go exterior is that they had MU's. It's so simple actually, all Ron had to do was use a dictionary and clear the word "exterior" and POOF!

Stratty, get yourself a good dictionary and in a few minutes you'll be exterior and you'll be able to use your tractor beams!

With the internet, dictionaries are now free to all mankind--so there's really no excuse to not have magical powers.

ps: Someone once posted the ridiculous idea that Ron knew the definition of "exterior" because he owned a dictionary. While that may be true, Ron wrote about how to go exterior in the 1950s, before he discovered the clay technology, so he probably could not go exterior due to "missing mass" phenomena.

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In addition to Bill’s remarks, the fact that 99% of people left Scientology speaks for itself...
 
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Apologies if anyone was left with an MU on the term "tractor beam".

You can get some hatting on it in this outstanding videotaped lecture. While I am not 100% certain yet, there is a very strong possibility that this is Ron in his new MEST body. Like Ron, he channeled cosmic knowledge from another dimension and humbly gifted it to mankind.

He talks about tractor beams starting at minute 5.


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ps: Be sure to visit the bookstore today because all tech-t-shirts are 50% off!

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Apologies if anyone was left with an MU on the term "tractor beam".

You can get some hatting on it in this outstanding videotaped lecture. While I am not 100% certain yet, there is a very strong possibility that this is Ron in his new MEST body. Like Ron, he channeled cosmic knowledge from another dimension and humbly gifted it to mankind.

He talks about tractor beams starting at minute 5.


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ps: Be sure to visit the bookstore today because all tech-t-shirts are 50% off!

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I am sorry that I can't un-watch that. Nothing any weirder than a Michael Chan video.


 
I am sorry that I can't un-watch that. Nothing any weirder than a Michael Chan video.



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It's fascinating that in Scientology all the most able OTs (Hubbard, Miscavige, et al) just happen to be the most able liars--like this con man in the video below. Chan! Commodore! COB! They're all so very sure!

It's all so terribly and cringefully dumb!

Chan is simply "duplicating Ron's successful actions". What wins the hearts and minds (and wallets) of Scientologists is the carefully practiced "sound of certainty" in his voice. That's what duped Scientologists are actually buying.



"hello dumbness, my old friend. . .
I've come to 2way com with you again
Because a guru surely creepy
Left his implant while I was sleeping
And the hoax that was implanted in my brain
Still remains
Within the sounds of certainty."


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Whew, so much to respond to. There are clearly a lot of angry people on here, but to the ones who weren't all charged up and swinging, thanks again for having me here.

I stand corrected with there being a third type, so thank you for that. The bottom line is, if people are here and angry, either they've done wrong or they've been wronged, and now finally, they could have witnessed others being wronged.

I wish I could reflect on all the positive things our org is and does, but that's my opinion and everyone's got them right? I'm not sure why I really decided to come here but the gist was: curiosity. That has been filled until there's another post about me.

Look, from one person to another, or several, I am sorry that bad shit happened, not just abuses but that my religion didn't work for you and now you're here. I don't know if that could amount to anything, but regardless, . And yes, even the trolls, there's a reason why they are here and they probably need more love than any of us. Yeah yeah, call me a hippie.

I was raised in a Christian family, who later found Buddhism and, while they along with several other self-help methods have shown that they can work, Scientology thus far has seemed to just make sense and resonates with me. I don't have anyone holding a proverbial gun to my head when I study or do auditing, nor do I think LRH was a saint, nor do I believe in every last drop of it, but for me, in my "infant stage" as someone pointed out, I have so many wins that it is impossible to ignore. Now we can all go on hating each other because our realities are different, or we can just accept that maybe Scientology is just not for everyone, and that doesn't make anyone less of who they are on either side. I may be corrected on this with some policy but statistics prove otherwise, sorry, LRH.

As requested by admin, there won't be a back and forth, and maybe this message is anticlimactic but I don't have the narrow viewpoint of "you're wrong and I'm right" - each to their own.

Thanks to those who stuck up for me, and those who were nice enough to not be an asshole, you're really sweet.

Hi, and welcome. :welcome: I didn't say that the first time because your first post wasn't nearly as warm. Despite the incorrect pre-judgments you made here and in your first post about those here who you have never even met personally and don't know anything about, I think this post is still warm and sincere, if misinformed. I'm not talking about Scientology at the moment, but the pre-judgments you made about people here. If you are a Scientologist, then one could say that you did not apply the Non-E formula correctly. You already decided you didn't need to do that for some reason, am I right?

So you only apply parts of Scientology and didn't see a need to apply Non-E when introducing yourself to people you don't know and who don't know you. Fair enough. I don't personally care either way, but you should get over the idea that people here are "stuck in a cycle" and need to "move on with their lives." If I hit you with words like that as my idea of saying hello, you would probably consider it eval and inval, right? You don't know any of us to make that call. For me personally, I happen to like the people here and the discussions we have. Scientology took up a very large portion of my life, so it's nice I can share that openly with some of my friends because many others would have no idea what it was like. Somehow Scientology attracted some really amazing people and I like staying in touch with them. Maybe you are one of them. I'd like to find out and let things unfold in a natural way. Peace.
 
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"There are clearly a lot of angry people on here. . . "​
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"The bottom line is, if people are here and angry, either they've done wrong or they've been wronged..."​
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"And yes, even the trolls, there's a reason why they are here..."​

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As one of the "trolls" you officially declared, I'll respond.

Which definitions for the words "angry" and "troll" are you using?

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angry troll -noun: A former Scientologist who somehow escaped the cult hoax after being thoroughly lied to, tricked and defrauded---and for no reason at all refuses to agree with Ron and share their success story and wins.​
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ps: Fraud victims don't "blow" scientology because "they've done wrong". Your so called stable datum is part of the fraud. Blind spots are a bitch, LOL. ​

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