LAPD + Scientology church?

Ed8

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Saw this on a social media site. Does anyone know if it is true?

"LAPD are so corrupt and in bed with Scientology that they are trying to classify the anti-Scientology protestors as a gang, so that they can monitor and have them prosecuted for gang involvement"

It's in reference to protesters who picket outside the center at Sunset near Vermont in Hollywood.
 

Natalie Webster discusses the close relationship Scientology has with LAPD
Scientology gets special treatment - cop admits it’s “EASY MONEY” working for Scientology
Streets LA caught that on tape and has cops badge number
Protestor gets attacked (was it fair game) and goes to hospital
Cops take their time to help Chris
 
so yeah aaron just confirmed that is their goal. he's streaming from LA/serge's pink room (haha).

 
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Does anyone have a clue why Tony Ortega isn't covering any of these stories?
Seems like these street protests and police controversies are the most significant
events going on in years. Not a peep from Tony. Am I missing something?

Can anyone explain?
 
Does anyone have a clue why Tony Ortega isn't covering any of these stories?
Seems like these street protests and police controversies are the most significant
events going on in years. Not a peep from Tony. Am I missing something?

Can anyone explain?

it's complicated....

i think part of it is that he hasn't cared for the really aggressive protesters like Angry Gay Pope, and the previous generation of 'First Amendment audit' types who stuck their cameras in people's faces and seemed to be taking out their passive aggression in the sort of ways that i think are understood by those really familiar with cults as completely unproductive and even counter-productive including just reinforcing what believers think about the outside world being dangerous and set against them. so when Will came along with a toned-down and better organized approach, it got missed that it was not more of the same but turning into something that could be as big as Anonymous. and i don't think Tony is quite set up to cover it, his site is sort of based more on coverage of what the CoS is doing and research, than reporting on activities except where he has a good point of contact like Alex. not that i don't think he might have figured out a way to provide some coverage that fit in with the focus of his site, but i think i can understand how it ended up where it has.

and there may be more to it, as well. i think he finds YouTube hard to cover, which i think there's something to as there's now probably more scn related content that anyone could watch if they devoted all their waking hours to it, plus there may be issues with some of the personalities (which i myself don't want to wade into by saying any more).
 
it's complicated....

i think part of it is that he hasn't cared for the really aggressive protesters like Angry Gay Pope, and the previous generation of 'First Amendment audit' types who stuck their cameras in people's faces and seemed to be taking out their passive aggression in the sort of ways that i think are understood by those really familiar with cults as completely unproductive and even counter-productive including just reinforcing what believers think about the outside world being dangerous and set against them. so when Will came along with a toned-down and better organized approach, it got missed that it was not more of the same but turning into something that could be as big as Anonymous. and i don't think Tony is quite set up to cover it, his site is sort of based more on coverage of what the CoS is doing and research, than reporting on activities except where he has a good point of contact like Alex. not that i don't think he might have figured out a way to provide some coverage that fit in with the focus of his site, but i think i can understand how it ended up where it has.

and there may be more to it, as well. i think he finds YouTube hard to cover, which i think there's something to as there's now probably more scn related content that anyone could watch if they devoted all their waking hours to it, plus there may be issues with some of the personalities (which i myself don't want to wade into by saying any more).
There's also the "avoid ruinous competition" aspect - there's so many content posters covering this hazing of Scientology and the cops, why bother? It's old news.

Mimsey
 
so yeah aaron just confirmed that is their goal. he's streaming from LA/serge's pink room (haha).

Purple man bad. ;)

Does anyone have a clue why Tony Ortega isn't covering any of these stories?
Tony and Aaron are not friends. I'm also under the impression that Chris and Tony are kinda looking at it as: "Kids doing shit for lolz and likes, while not caring really that much about the core issues".

Maybe I'm just projecting my own views, because at their worst that's how it seemed to me.

I think it does have a positive impact on the general public - raises awareness and informs people on what are scientology front groups. I doubt it has a positive impact on those still in. I am quite sure it just reinforces the siege mentality. I remember when I was physically assaulted as a body router - it just made me double down.
 
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Purple man bad. ;)


Tony and Aaron are not friends. I'm also under the impression that Chris and Tony are kinda looking at it as: "Kids doing shit for lolz and likes, while not caring really that much about the core issues".

Maybe I'm just projecting my own views, because at their worst that's how it seemed to me.

I think it does have a positive impact on the general public - raises awareness and informs people on what are scientology front groups. I doubt it has a positive impact on those still in. I am quite sure it just reinforces the siege mentality. I remember when I was physically assaulted as a body router - it just made me double down.
I am well aware of the non friendship and the “why” you have totally missed. As to what else you said i have no clue. And it has nothing to do with aaron’s personal feelings.
 
Tony and Aaron are not friends. I'm also under the impression that Chris and Tony are kinda looking at it as: "Kids doing shit for lolz and likes, while not caring really that much about the core issues".

Maybe I'm just projecting my own views, because at their worst that's how it seemed to me.

I think it does have a positive impact on the general public - raises awareness and informs people on what are scientology front groups. I doubt it has a positive impact on those still in. I am quite sure it just reinforces the siege mentality. I remember when I was physically assaulted as a body router - it just made me double down.

i rarely watch Chris' channel because though i like what he does and his somewhat academic approach, i simply don't have time for it. is he also sort of ignoring the current '1A' goings-on? if so i think that would be telling about how it really is hard to figure out how to relate to it -- like what is just sort of performative, and what is actually impactful.

i do think that unlike almost all of the previous years' 'First Amendment audits', what Will has done has been properly calibrated to have an impact -- and it's started a bit of a movement that has spread elsewhere, not just CW but Austin and other cities, plus of course spreading on the internet.

and it seems to me it could be that a couple of the activists/protesters might have hit on a few things that could have an impact -- like asking what they think about Danny Masterson is at least not aggressive, and seems to me like it might get someone questioning, and maybe even looking for answers....
 
. . . Will has done has been properly calibrated to have an impact -- and it's started a bit of a movement that has spread elsewhere, not just CW but Austin and other cities, plus of course spreading on the internet.
Let's not forget, that Golden Age of Admin Tech shock troops, specially trained for carrying out
sudden assaults, will be firing out from Flag very soon to their respective orgs and communities.

The TikTok Crew, aka Squirrel Squad, is also in training in it's own boot camps on the streets,
working out their best strategies and blitzkrieg campaigns to bring about some swift victories.

The Stand is a post-apocalyptic fantasy novel by Stephen King about a deadly pandemic of a government
weaponized influenza. Surviving humans gather into good and evil factions and end up in a final battle.

The Stand II is a street-level event about a "mind virus" and different kind of battle between good and evil.

These newly graduated Flag mopes will be out on the streets with their free tickets this spring . . .

Who will win?

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i rarely watch Chris' channel because though i like what he does and his somewhat academic approach, i simply don't have time for it. is he also sort of ignoring the current '1A' goings-on? if so i think that would be telling about how it really is hard to figure out how to relate to it -- like what is just sort of performative, and what is actually impactful.

i do think that unlike almost all of the previous years' 'First Amendment audits', what Will has done has been properly calibrated to have an impact -- and it's started a bit of a movement that has spread elsewhere, not just CW but Austin and other cities, plus of course spreading on the internet.

and it seems to me it could be that a couple of the activists/protesters might have hit on a few things that could have an impact -- like asking what they think about Danny Masterson is at least not aggressive, and seems to me like it might get someone questioning, and maybe even looking for answers....
Ilike Chris's approach, not his political stance. I have not been watching too much of his stuff in the past 3 months, too busy in rl
 
LAPD ARRESTS PROTESTERS: Charged Protesters with Conspiracy



all three (at two different stations) being held until wednesday with no bail. streets has video from all angles that the cops even saw before the arrests.

 
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streets is filming LA Kam is just now getting out. jenna p superchats $400 for LA Kam's new phone. wow. belgarath donates $100! another phone donation $100 and $50. gosh nice people. Danny got out. So only one left is DOA (after Kam shows up). okay... kam is out. they're heading back to la poubelle. NBC News is there somebody saying only one arrested.

 
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