Bill also asked (see previous post, above): Ok, does anyone know what @Veda means by "warning about some ’other aspect’ "?What "other aspect" are you taking about?
What "warning" would you give about this "other aspect"?
Not at all?So what? I don't feel the slightest obligation to perform like a trained seal (for you or anybody else)
Colonel Klink, "I know nothing".Remarkable!CUT TO: Final Colonel Kurtz scene in "APOCALYPSE NOW".COLONEL KURTZThe horror. . . The horror. . . The horror. . ..
You almost had it. You seemed to have understood, then you didn't understand.-snip-
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I would guess Veda is referring to another sentence he wrote:
"No one warned about Scientology's disguise aspect,I have no clue why Veda is claiming that "no one warned about" that. Seems to me that every form of media and website on the internet that has published criticisms, debunkings, exposes, books, articles, interviews, videos, whistleblowing, documentaries and other illuminations of Hubbard's hoax has set off a deafening din of warning sirens.
or about how it uses (some) good ideas and (some) good people." -Veda
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This has been said by others pretty simply:Maybe a little clarification would be useful.
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And shifting from those getting in to those getting out (or contemplating getting out), here's a link to a post from a new member of ESMB from a while back.
Perhaps reading it may be helpful.
.You almost had it. You seemed to have understood, then you didn't understand.
That's a fine sentiment, but that's not what I was saying.This has been said by others pretty simply:
Great minds discuss ideas, average minds discuss events, small minds discuss people.
Christians often say "Love the sinner, hate the sin" which is similar.
Perhaps what you want to say is more like:
Great minds criticize Scientology tech/claims/results, average minds criticize Scientologists' actions, small minds criticize Scientologists.
I'm not sure why this was difficult for you to simply say it, but I do agree with the concept.
Cool! So what were you saying? Can you just say it?That's a fine sentiment, but that's not what I was saying.
Go to the list of my threads at the original ESMB. I've said it numerous times in a variety of ways.Cool! So what were you saying? Can you just say it?
Yeah, that's like trying to figure out a puzzle. You have a wall of words that you want me to dig through and try to figure out your message. I've tried but you just said, "that's not what I'm saying". I'm no longer interested in playing "guess my message" with you.Go to the list of my threads at the original ESMB. I've said it numerous times in a variety of ways.
It's explained in this thread. Apparently you have a mental block that prevents you from understanding. It's one of those things. Don't take it personally.Yeah, that's like trying to figure out a puzzle. You have a wall of words that you want me to dig through and try to figure out your message. I've tried but you just said, "that's not what I'm saying". I'm no longer interested in playing "guess my message" with you.
If you don't want to simply say your message in 25 words or so, I'm not going to try to guess it. It's your message that you seem to be frustrated that it isn't getting through. Well, here is your opportunity to simply and briefly SAY it.
I'm not arguing with you, I'm not attacking you, I'm only curious.
Sounds good.-snip-
ESMB is and always was a cool place to hang out with friends who 'get' each other due to our mutual past and where we also encourage and welcome new people when they are ready to join us ... and always have done.
You couldn't say "Scientology has a fake 'good' facade to draw victims in"? Ok. Whatever.I suspect @Veda may be unhappy with the way we have moved on as individuals and the way ESMB has evolved over 12 or so years ... I also believe most of us did not join to try and be therapists or deprogrammers.
Indies are not ex-scientologists and I am not in the business of trying to manipulate them out of their chosen lifestyle anymore than I would try to encourage Muslims to dump the Quran. I couldn't care less if indies believe every single word hubbard ever wrote and applaud a paper-mache statue of him 30 times a day ... it is only when they start trying to dominate or recruit here that I get a tiny bit antsy.
ESMB is and always was a cool place to hang out with friends who 'get' each other due to our mutual past and where we also encourage and welcome new people when they are ready to join us ... and always have done.
Twelve years ago there was no:. . . we have moved on as individuals and the way ESMB has evolved over 12 or so years . . .
I believe that guests includes bots and crawlers.@PirateAndBum, quick question.
If the message board activity total = 63 (members: 4, guests: 59)
Does that mean there are 59 actual people (guests) visiting or does that number
include robots and website crawlers also?