Pre 1950, Hubbard was fond of depicting his unpublished manuscript Excalibur as having tremendous power, and capable of driving a person - who had not been prepared for it - mad; even of causing one poor soul, after reading it, to hurl himself out of the window of an skyscraper. (In a letter, Hubbard descirbed the creation of a mystique of danger around Excalibur as "a good publishing trick.")Good catch, Veda.
That's not a COS statement.
Judging from his dark, dark artwork in years past, I thought Arthur was suffering from some sort of PTSD for a long time and deep pain and despair. Certainly feeling detached from life.
It may have been Karl Jung who believed that some people become schizophrenic after a direct experience with God. (Not sure it was Jung who said that, though.) The idea is intriguing, that seeing God directly could and would break a person's mind. I'm pretty sure this is what Arthur is referring to - and that part sounds like Arthur.
In the Bible story of Sodom and Gomorrah, they were instructed to look away and not look back at the destruction of those cities, but Lot's wife turned around and turned to stone. That story is out of Genesis, and Arthur refers to the very beginnings.
There was always an underlying story in Catholicism (and other branches of Christianity and many other religions, too), that humans cannot look directly at God or it would break their minds. We wouldn't be able to take it.
@ Lee #28Sheila....if he was on the RPF.....then he was in the SO. What Post was he busted down from?
I knew of that Penthouse /room /office at PAC that was for some Artist group of SO....
But never knew the particulars about that.
Do you know if Arthur was associated with that "SO Artist thing" at PAC.....that Penthouse.....and anything about all that?
Yeh. :sad: I saw those bruises; he showed me. Arthur took a lot of risks to try to make the RPF more comfortable for me and others. He didn't care what they did to him. He didn't want anyone else to suffer. It was not an act and his self-abnegation and willingness to suffer in someone else's place was unnerving but so sincere it made me very sad at the time. Like I said, he was a nice guy. We wrote commendations on each other. Funny to think of OSA reading a commendation by Arthur in my RPF file!^^^^
Dang Sheila....that is outrageous! WTF!!??
Pretty awkward having to nicely hold off a 7-year old boy jumping and trying to wrestle you with your cult leader standing there laughing, right?
There were a lot of stories about him being a spoiled child on the ship who could do whatever he wanted. Arthur personally admitted to that, too. He was apparently both well-loved and not well-liked by the crew.
He was too young to be going to any grammar school, and by the time he was old enough I think the Hubbards had split for a life on the ocean wave.Well, I had to Google his name....and came up with this:
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He was born in 1958...and he is 61 years old. He was born in Wash. D.C.
But I would imagine...as Strati says he was a young boy in England....he went to some English grammar schools....?
Then....on the Apollo, cruising the Mediterranean..... ( entirely SO...except him? I doubt it....)
Then?
This is very interesting in that it mentions Arthur and wrestling. He was the one wrestling ME about and not the other way around.
I couldn't tolerate being in the same room with him when I saw him around the org for about a week while I was training as a public. He just had a completely jagged space with far too much debris in his orbit is the best way I could describe my impressions of him when he was a teenager. He was not even normal let alone more clear or OT than others was another strong impression.
I believe this is the PL.This is very interesting in that it mentions Arthur and wrestling. He was the one wrestling ME about and not the other way around.
I also remember a sign on a fence around a paddock in the grounds of Saint Hill manor with a couple of horses in it which said not to interact in any way with the animals as the children were 'trying to communicate with them'.
I know what you both mean. His brain worked a bit differently than other people I knew. In some ways, he was apart and separate from experiencing things and in other ways, he experienced emotions far more intensely than anyone ever should.You know, I know exactly what you mean.
I never felt comfortable around him either.
Then again, I really didn't know him very well.
Thanks, it's reassuring to know I didn't just dream all this stuff up!
Too late, been there, done that, got the t-shirt.Wow....you're in TROUBLE Straty.......wrestling with the kid....
RPF.....for you!
LOL.....