Active Agent of Scientology - Marty “Mark” Rathbun

[The Oracle]

Since I have never seen the actual lawsuit, I cannot claim it was a "perfectly good lawsuit" or that she was "clearly winning". We were told this by Tony Ortega. Even if I had the documentation, I would not be in a position to properly evaluate the soundness of the suit, since I am not a lawyer. In which case, I would have to rely on the legal expertise of another.

There was a point where Marty stopped the aggressive attack on DM, however, I would not automatically conclude that he was back in Scn. Maybe he just got sick of it (Scn + Anti-Scn)? I've gotten sick of it in the past and walked away (only to return). Nor do I feel that Marty has an obligation to continue publishing damning articles on Scn. From the onset of his blog, I thought he made his intention clear, that he wanted Exes to transcend their Scn experience, to continue their journey and not wallow in the chaos and bullshit that is Scn. So, why would anyone be surprised when he walked away?

If Marty were "back in the fold", why keep all of his old posts (criticizing Miscavige and the church) on his blog? No one has offered a reasonable explanation, instead it is simply ignored. Why?

You know, not everyone has to be on a "team".

have another hit statpush

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

From the onset of his blog, I thought he made his intention clear, that he wanted Exes to transcend their Scn experience, to continue their journey and not wallow in the chaos and bullshit that is Scn. So, why would anyone be surprised when he walked away?

You are either gaming people on this thread or you never read Marty's blog.

"From the onset of his blog....he wanted Exes to transcend their Scn experiences,
to continue their journey and not wallow in the chaos and bullshit that is Scn.?!" ​

LOL. That statement is entirely clueless, but that's a "pass" on the "mock up total certainty" drill.

How did Rathbun not want people to wallow in the bullshit that is Scientology? HE WAS PROMOTING AND SELLING AUDITING. HE WAS THE AUDITOR. HE WAS AUDITING PEOPLE UP THE BRIDGE TO OT. HE WAS RUNNING PCS ON CLEAR AND OT III. He not only led PCs to quicksand, he pushed them in and held them there, and made them pay good money for that priceless service.

CLEAR AND OT III IS THE BULLSHIT THAT IS SCIENTOLOGY!!!

Your bedtime stories are not working. Nobody fell asleep. Maybe those fancy shore stories work on Scientologists, let us know your wins when you try it out on them.

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[ILove2Lurk]

You are either gaming people on this thread or you never read Marty's blog.

@HelluvaHoax!, maybe you could broaden your acceptance of others' realities, like I have.

I've had my disagreements with this poster from time to time and been puzzled about him.

Then, I checked with my friend google and learned that the poster has about 70 postings
on Alanzo's blog. Yes, surprisingly, you can find out things like that on google.

Since then, I've given said poster wide berth, as I realized he just has a very different reality.

Strange bedfellows. What else could I conclude?

 

[statpush]

You are either gaming people on this thread or you never read Marty's blog.

Sorry, I have to ask - have you read Marty's blog? And did you understand it?

"From the onset of his blog....he wanted Exes to transcend their Scn experiences,
to continue their journey and not wallow in the chaos and bullshit that is Scn.?!" ​

LOL. That statement is entirely clueless, but that's a "pass" on the "mock up total certainty" drill.

How do you explain Marty's Recommended Reading list:
Tao Te Ching
A Course in Miracles
The Age of Reason by Thomas Paine
The Autobiography of Malcolm X
Man’s Search for Meaning – Viktor Frankl
The Sociopath next door by Martha Stout
The Psychopath Test by Jon Ronson
Buddha’s Brain by Rick Hanson with Richard Mendius
The Tao of Physics
What is Wrong with Scientology?

How did Rathbun not want people to wallow in the bullshit that is Scientology? HE WAS PROMOTING AND SELLING AUDITING. HE WAS THE AUDITOR. HE WAS AUDITING PEOPLE UP THE BRIDGE TO OT. HE WAS RUNNING PCS ON CLEAR AND OT III. He not only led PCs to quicksand, he pushed them in and held them there, and made them pay good money for that priceless service.

It was well known Marty was auditing. I have no idea what auditing he was or wasn't delivering; and, frankly I don't care. Apparently you do. Man, you must of blown a gasket to learn that Karen was auditing public as late as 2017.

CLEAR AND OT III IS THE BULLSHIT THAT IS SCIENTOLOGY!!!

Ho-hum

Your bedtime stories are not working. Nobody fell asleep. Maybe those fancy shore stories work on Scientologists, let us know your wins when you try it out on them.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[statpush]

@HelluvaHoax!, maybe you could broaden your acceptance of others' realities, like I have.

I've had my disagreements with this poster from time to time and been puzzled about him.

Then, I checked with my friend google and learned that the poster has about 70 postings
on Alanzo's blog. Yes, surprisingly, you can find out things like that on google.

Since then, I've given said poster wide berth, as I realized he just has a very different reality.

Strange bedfellows. What else could I conclude?

70? Not bad. Posted loads at Mike's blog as well.

I find Alanzo's blog interesting, mainly because he asks questions that nobody wants to hear, much less answer. But, to date, all the Anti-Scn Tribe can do is call him names (I understand, I was 12 once).

I also read The Underground and, on occasion, Mike's blog.

Given me wide berth? Er...gosh...thanks?

Yes, I do have a different reality. I'm not on anyone's team, and not interested in joining.

 

[statpush]

have another hit statpush

Cmon, Fake Oracle...I know you can do better.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

@HelluvaHoax!, maybe you could broaden your acceptance of others' realities, like I have.
I've had my disagreements with this poster from time to time and been puzzled about him.Then, I checked with my friend google and learned that the poster has about 70 postings on Alanzo's blog. Yes, surprisingly, you can find out things like that on google. Since then, I've given said poster wide berth, as I realized he just has a very different reality. Strange bedfellows. What else could I conclude?

Pure coincidence! He probably posted there by mistake. Anyone can make a mistake. Have you ever made a mistake?

And the fact that he is now bringing Karen into the equation. Another minor error---not even a mistake. Anyone can make a minor error. Have you ever made a minor error?

Just because he is part of the trash-talking troll "troika" (Marty, Alanzo, Mango) and doesn't like cult whistleblowers, so what? Have you ever mistakenly attacked people speaking the truth about Scientology's abuses?

See what I mean? We are all guilty so nobody has a right to point out pathological cult abuses. LOL.

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[The Oracle]

Cmon, Fake Oracle...I know you can do better.

have some more
you make no sense <<<(statpush)

the Oracle knows all

 

[statpush]

Pure coincidence! He probably posted there by mistake. Anyone can make a mistake. Have you ever made a mistake?

No, wasn't a mistake, totally intentional. Now, posting on ESMB...that may have been a mistake

And the fact that he is now bringing Karen into the equation. Another minor error---not even a mistake. Anyone can make a minor error. Have you ever made a minor error?

Karen is off-limits? Is the Truth off-limits? Geez, so many hidden rules to follow.

Just because he is part of the trash-talking troll "troika" (Marty, Alanzo, Mango) and doesn't like cult whistleblowers, so what? Have you ever mistakenly attacked people speaking the truth about Scientology's abuses?

Exactly which truth-speaking individuals have I "attacked"?

See what I mean? We are all guilty so nobody has a right to point out pathological cult abuses. LOL.

I have no idea what you are talking about.

 

[statpush]

have some more
you make no sense <<<(statpush)

the Oracle knows all

I guess I was wrong. You apparently can't do any better.

 

[The Oracle]

I guess I was wrong. You apparently can't do any better.

Seriously, Statpush, you make no sense.
You sound like you are sticking up for turncoats and betrayers who attack courageous folks like Karen, Leah, Mike Rinder and a lot of others who are out on the front lines exposing the heinous cult of Scientology.
They are doing good work.
That character Alanzo and Marty the Rat - not good people. Doing bad things and harming innocent people who could get trapped in that evil cult of Scientology.

 

[statpush]

Are we just communicating in pictures now? Lost for words?

 

[The Oracle]

Are we just communicating in pictures now? Lost for words?

No loss for words. Re-read the post.

 

[Karakorum]

Are we just communicating in pictures now? Lost for words?

Pesky, pesky pictures. There just ain't no way to word clear em' with a dictionary!

 

[statpush]

No loss for words. Re-read the post.

Editing the post doesn't count. You lose 2 points.

Seriously, Statpush, you make no sense.

You'll have to narrow it down. Or I could type slower, if that helps.

 

[statpush]

Pesky, pesky pictures. There just ain't no way to word clear em' with a dictionary!

Gonna need a pictionary.

I already regret posting this.

 

[Karakorum]

I already regret posting this.

I bet you say that to all the girls.

 

[ILove2Lurk]

@statpush What's Fran Turner up to nowadays? Was a dear friend at one time. And Ellen?

You helped me with a computer problem quite a few years ago. I was nearby over on Westmoreland Place.

 

[The Oracle]

Editing the post doesn't count. You lose 2 points.


You'll have to narrow it down. Or I could type slower, if that helps.

It’s ok Statpush. I’ll can accept this inability to use logic and reason
Scientology probably audited it out

Oh, I don’t think you could type any slower

 

[statpush]

@statpush What's Fran Turner up to nowadays? Was a dear friend at one time. And Ellen?

Apparently Fran is dead.

Fran Turner Newby, OT-VIII, St Louis Org

Mentioned last year on Mike Rinder's blog as having been on staff as St Louis Org Mentioned on Service Completions list as having finished OT-VIII as of 2018-02-01 in the Freewinds mag.

exscn2.net

What a horrible story. Sorry for your loss.

And Ellen? Last Name? Is she dead too?

You helped me with a computer problem quite a few years ago. I was nearby over on Westmoreland Place.

I did? Did I fix it? Where is Westmoreland Place? I'd like to accept the credit, but I really don't know what you are referring to.