Aaron is very upset in this video.....

[Type4_PTS]

I watched all the Aaron videos all the way. In a nutshell, what is claimed:

• Mike did not alert Child USA about any of this for over two years
• Mike didn't alert anyone about this for the past two years or tell anyone at Child USA (Why not?)

I watched just the initial video from Aaron posted in this thread and unless I misunderstood, Aaron indicated he didn't know whether or not Mike informed anyone at Child USA. He left open the possibility that Mike did inform Marci Hamilton (who runs Child USA) but that she failed to inform the Board of Directors.

 

[lotus]

I watched just the initial video from Aaron posted in this thread and unless I misunderstood, Aaron indicated he didn't know whether or not Mike informed anyone at Child USA. He left open the possibility that Mike did inform Marci Hamilton (who runs Child USA) but that she failed to inform the Board of Directors.

Correct!

If memory serves, today he came back to this issue:

He said either Mike knew and did not tell, or Mike informed the board (Marci Hamilton) and they are lying, which he doesn't think, is what happened.

 

[Karakorum]

Mike did not alert Child USA about any of this for over two years

That's what Aaron insinuated, however it is pure speculation.

Nobody knows what Mike and Marci talked about, except themselves.

Mike didn't alert anyone about this for the past two years or tell anyone at Child USA (Why not?)

I don't remember Aaron or (anyone else for that matter) making this a big issue in any of their videos etc. So at best a case of the kettle calling the pot a certain racial slur

Now guys, I think all of you know that I'm no Mike Rinder fanboy and I have some of my own gripes with the way he shared (or rather failed to share) his OSA knowledge with the ex-scn community.

But in this specific case, I feel like there's quite a bit of speculation goin on about what Mike might have said, when he might have said it and what Marci may or may not have known. Very little concrete facts though

How can Aaron be sure that Mike didn't tell Marci and that Marci (or other people in Child USA) decided not to take any action until the official complaint against Brian gets resolved? Cause taht's what a lot of corporate entieies would do in a similar case - wait until a legal accusation against their board member gets substantiated or legally resolved.


Again, my very personbal (and quite possibly wrong) impression is that, unlike with the Mirriam case, Mike is being set up here. And I really doubt this is just Rabbit and Aaron. Rather, it feels like Mike is being set up in some wider conspiracy and Aaron is just adding fuel to an already raging fire.

 

[ILove2Lurk]

But in this specific case, I feel like there's quite a bit of speculation goin on about what Mike might have said, when he might have said it and what Marci may or may not have known. Very little concrete facts though

Please do an investigation. That's your specialty, isn't it?

I'm waiting for Mike to say something, which he maybe ought to. Just to clear the air
and put a stop to the rampant speculation. That would be easy enough. Why not?


Added
OK, I checked for you . . . Mike has made a bunch of statements about the matter
on his blog in the comments section.

 

[Type4_PTS]

I'm waiting for Mike to say something, which he maybe ought to. Just to clear the air
and put a stop to the rampant speculation. That would be easy enough. Why not?

If he did tell Marci Hamilton in the past he might not wish to write about that so it doesn't seem as though he's throwing her under the bus.

I suspect there's much more to the story than the narrative Aaron is spinning.

 

[Lee #28]

Liz Gale put up a video today.....and she talks about some of the aspects of this.....

First time I'd watched her.... Pretty good presentation. I started a new thread about it here:

Liz Gale video on the Brian Kent situation... live now

3rd Generation but now ex scientologist.... Yes, she does talk about the Mike Rinder situation....Child USA and Brian Kent. At about 1:28 Liz makes a great point about WHY fury protesting works....and is a good thing.

exscn2.net

 

[Reyne Mayer]

OK, I checked for you . . . Mike has made a bunch of statements about the matter
on his blog in the comments section.

Mike Rinder says

April 25, 2024 at 8:05 am

You don’t want to accept the truth even when I answer your question — rather stick to what “surely must be true.” Child USA is a think tank, it does not directly represent victims. It’s not a law firm. How many cases did Kent’s firm bring based on SOL law changes for Scientology victims? I don’t think any. I am aware of 4 cases they filed for Scn victims total. Are there other lawyers who have? No idea. Do you think there is some mechanism or requirement for lawyers to report information like this? Any yes, Kent’s actions are unconscionable. I have not spoken to him in more than 2 years, though I have spoken to one of the lawyers in his firm who represented Val Haney when her being forced into “arbitration” was being argued. Again, I doubt you care to hear this, and will instead believe what is said by people who don’t know but pretend they do (“this must be the case”) in order to get clicks on their channels.

 

[ILove2Lurk]

Off topic
@Reyne Mayer you have some of the most interesting finds on Tony's.
I looked up something you mentioned . . . the Gaul/Sharpe murders. Whoa!
And your comments about McMaster. What times those were!

(FYI: Not for squeamish readers.)

 

[Lee #28]

Off topic
@Reyne Mayer you have some of the most interesting finds on Tony's.
I looked up something you mentioned . . . the Gaul/Sharpe murders. Whoa!
And your comments about McMaster. What times those were!

(FYI: Not for squeamish readers.)

WoW! So many tie-ins with scientology.... She was getting auditing that night...both her and her auditor were murdered.....

I kinda assumed this was down near MacAurthor Park.....or Olympic and that old area of Scientology.... But I looked it up and it is in the far eastern part of the Valley.....even Burbank. But close to the Chuanga Pass...

 

[ILove2Lurk]

WoW!

Check figure 5 in the article again for the address. It was near Koreatown.

 

[Lee #28]

^^^^^

That was where I figured it would have been..... Burbank didn't seem right.

I lived in Korea Town for many years...in a group cult home.

 

[lotus]

I think it's this comment (question ) MR replied to, right?

Kate says

April 25, 2024 at 3:40 am

Surely if CHILD USA has done so much to eliminate statute of limitations (albeit temporarily) they’d have some idea of whether any scientology-related lawsuits have been brought as a result? Particularly if one of the board members was representing quite a few of them (poorly)?

^^^^^^^
This!

IMO, Valid questioning !!!! Obviously there is something wrong here that doesn't make sense.

No matter what will explain that, the whole truth must be very ugly!

 

[lotus]

Mike said “ CHILD USA is a think tank.. "

I could not believe Child USA is Only a think tank since it took actions and made representations in regard to the status of limitations. Here is its complete mission:


OUR MISSION

CHILD USA is the leading national think tank fighting for children.

Our mission is to preserve and strengthen children’s rights.

We achieve this mission through:

• Fighting for the rights of children to be free from child sex abuse through legal reform of the statutes of limitation and federal bankruptcy law, ending child marriage, and holding institutions accountable.
• Fighting for the rights of children to medical care.
• Fighting to ensure every child’s right to a quality education.

End of quote
​

Fighting for the rights of children...
and holding institutions accountable...
​

 

[lotus]

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[Karakorum]

Please do an investigation. That's your specialty, isn't it?

Looking at the few know facts, It did feel like starting an INV case with establishing initial possible scenarios of how this came about. Obviously, I lack the tools to interrogate the relevant people and find out who is the accountable unit

Added
OK, I checked for you . . . Mike has made a bunch of statements about the matter
on his blog in the comments section.

Thanks! I looked at Mike's commeents under this link, there are two comments that Mike made which I believe are very relevant. Let me quote him:

Mike Rinder: ​

"The lawyer was never my friend, though I did try to assist the other lawyers in his firm in their litigation against scientology. I did not refer or send my friend to him. I did not know of the allegations against him until VERY recently — long after he was no longer representing my friend. Anyone saying otherwise is making up “facts” to forward some agenda." ​

(...)​

Kent’s actions are unconscionable. I have not spoken to him in more than 2 years, though I have spoken to one of the lawyers in his firm who represented Val Haney when her being forced into “arbitration” was being argued.​

​

So that's it. I mean Mike doesn't say exactly what he means by "VERY recently", nor does he mention if he spoke to Marci and/or other board members about it. I won't assume one way or the other. One thing I can speculate on is that even if Mike did tell everyone, there's a high chance they would keep Brian on the board until the original filed complaint was resolved.


Oh and one last thing: Mike mentions Valerie Haney, but I want to clarify that she is NOT the friend who was abused by Brian and who filed the complaint. That's a different former scientologist. I'll leave it at that.

 

[lotus]

A Philly lawyer for sexual abuse victims left his firm after an ex-client’s complaint was leaked

Brian Kent left his firm after a confidential complaint lodged by a former client was publicized by a YouTuber called "The Rabbit." The Inquirer has verified the authenticity of the document.

www.inquirer.com

 

[lotus]

From the Enquire

" Brian Kent had established himself in Philadelphia’s legal community as a go-to personal injury lawyer for survivors of sexual abuse, with clients that included people abused by Jerry Sandusky, the Church of Scientology, Pornhub, Massage Envy, and the Southern Baptist Church

Snip

CEO of Child USA, said in a statement that other people have since come forward with similar complaints, indicating that “there appears to be a pattern of manipulative and abusive behavior by Kent toward vulnerable clients nationwide seeking to find validation and justice in the legal system.” The organization did not immediately provide details on those allegations"

Let's see if these alleged abuses and cases messed up happened among others than COS victims or only with them!

 

[Barile]

jus' a reminder...

U.S. CHARGES SCIENTOLOGY CONSPIRACY | CIA FOIA (foia.cia.gov)

www.cia.gov

 

[Bette]

What a shock. Aaron is emoting and gesticulating wildly about something without proof in order to promote rumor and innuendo in his vendetta against Rinder. Where have I seen that before.

 

[Pooks]

Liz Gale and the SPTV crowd are toxic and being led and lied to by sexual predator Aaron Levin-Smith. Oh ya, it's all coming out on Aaron's abusive behavior with women.

Here's a clip of Liz shitting all over Leah Remini.