Does anybody here think there is a Bridge To Total Freedom?
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Follow the yellow brick road?
Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy?
Nah.
Follow the yellow brick road?
Hitchhikers guide to the galaxy?
Nah.
HelluvaHoax!
Well-known member
It would probably be a good idea to get your answer standardly with a standard survey of Scientologists.
While you're at it, would you mind asking them if they personally ever ATTAINED or personally OBSERVED anyone in Scientology who had ANY of the supernaturally magical miracle powers of a CLEAR or OT.
Ever notice that Scientology SURVEYS Scientologists about literally EVERYTHING in the world, except that subject. It's forbidden and a "High Crime" to ever ask anyone if they ever gained or saw someone who gained the Grade Chart "Abilities Attained".
Only a certified "EXAMINER" with a certified "E-METER" is allowed to ask about that subject.
But they don't ask if the person actually ATTAINED the abilities---they ask them if they have any doubts/reservations about ATTESTING to the fact that they have those new powers.
Wouldn't a real examiner not need an E-Meter? Wouldn't all they need to do is to simply ask the Scientologist to DEMONSTRATE THEIR POWER?
And, no---not demonstrate it with paperclips/batteries or with clay!*
LOL.
* I think you have inspired some rich materials for the STUPID THREAD! LOL
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programmer_guy
True ex-Scientologist
No, I don't believe that.
But I am curious what any Indies have to say about this.
But I am curious what any Indies have to say about this.
HelluvaHoax!
Well-known member
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It's a fascinating question to ask Indies.
I recall a thread I posted on when i was fairly new to ESMB and I began to do something that got a lot of INDIE Scientologists very upset on that thread. I dared to ask (using some SP version of TR III, LOL) what SPECIFICALLY were the gains and abilities attained that they received.
HOLY HELL that really started a lot of triggering! They didn't want to answer the question and either:
-- IGNORED IT
-- GAVE AN AMBIGUOUSLY SLIPPERY NON-ANSWER
-- BITTERLY CRITICIZED ME FOR EVEN ASKING IT.
There was only one person on that thread that I recall that finally answered it. The dude that used to post quite a lot (went blank on his ID for the moment) who was an unofficial Indie FSM, connecting anyone who would listen or show an open mind to an Indie Auditor or field practice. Shit, the British dude, can't recall his ID.
He answered it and was pretty truthful---that you got some kind of self-perceived perception of improvement. But in spite of that truthful statement, there he was promoting grades and Clearing and OT levels. It didn't make sense---but I learned that that phenomenon was not a glitch in cult thinking, it's a feature!
I think the dude's nickname (not his ID) was something like Bibi?
You can tell that I lost my perfect recall powers from the time I went Clear. I probably overran the Clearing course and by doing so erased not only my reactive mind but my analytical mind and standard memory banks as well.
Oh wait! I actually am Clear after all!!! I didn't remember his name but I did remember to go look on the old ESMB website. Terril Park is the guy I was referring to, kind of an AMBASSADOR for all beings to Indie Scientology, The Freezone and beyond!!!
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Xenu Xenu Xenu
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Our main problem in life is happiness, but I’ll tell you more in a moment. The world may or may not be designed to be a happy one. It may not be possible for you to be happy in this world, and yet nearly all of us have a goal to be happy and cheerful about existence.
-L. Ron Hubbard
from "Is It Possible To Be Happy?" --A NEW SLANT ON LIFE
One of the few truthful, even profound things Hubbard ever wrote. Remember, he did warn you.
-L. Ron Hubbard
from "Is It Possible To Be Happy?" --A NEW SLANT ON LIFE
One of the few truthful, even profound things Hubbard ever wrote. Remember, he did warn you.
TheSneakster
Well-known member
I'll bite, I guess.
I certainly believe such a thing is possible, but Ron Hubbard's was never completed.
I certainly believe such a thing is possible, but Ron Hubbard's was never completed.
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Well, I'll give you a bit of Hubbard as an answer: "Absolutes are unobtainable."
The Oracle
Not the same Oracle from a decade ago
There is a Bridge in Scientology to Total Bankruptcy and Financial Ruin.
As the highly trained Scientology Registrar's manipulate you out of every dime you have along with your savings account and then get you into deep debt for the Bridge. They "believe" they are saving you for your eternity as they rob you blind as they use their techniques to put you under undue influence.
Did you know Scientology registrars use "Big League Sales" as their training manual to hard sell you Scientology's Bridge to BK and Financial Ruin?
"Go Clear" "Be at Cause" " Go OT" is the repeater technique to command you hypnotically what to do.
They will show you videos and give you lots of promotional items to read so you will "know what to know" on what wins you will have...
This ensures you will have the cleverly disguised Scientological "implanted" win after win after win.
You will be told what great wins you will have PRIOR to receiving the " services " on the Bridge by watching and listening to the propaganda videos and reading the clever advertisements designed to make you VERY curious and wanting that service.
This is a clever method to program your mind on what wins you will have that service. It works. We all fell for the con.
These suggestions will be implanted into your subconscious mind for later recall when the pain of grinding away at your whole life track becomes so expensive, you will look for that win and then have it.
It is like magick.
Meanwhile, back in Los Angeles and New York City, the high powered attorney's have been hired by David Miscavige (and previously L Ron Hubbard) are paid millions and millions of your hard earned dollars to put together an iron clad contract - some 70 pages long, if my memory serves me - but I am Clear and OT and I forgot how many pages it was
so you can ask a Scientologist....This legal document is put together over 65 years and cleverly presented to you AFTER they have a YUGE chunk of money on account for the
"services delivered by volunteers who live slave-type lifestyles... to make sure you don't ever get your money back.
A cardinal sin in Scientology you will later find out...is NO REFUNDS.
"Refund "is like the worst cuss word in Scientology.
The highly trained Staff member will give you many reasons why you have to sign this document and you are in a church, so most likely you will trust whatever lie they feed you. You won't have legal representation nor will you get a copy of the contract.
Any other questions?
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The Oracle
Not the same Oracle from a decade ago
This woman, from Italy, went all the way up the bridge to OT8.
WATCH the video and hear her amazing wins.
stratty
Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
Yes, this video was posted on the old exscn board and I watched it through several times. Absolutely unbelievable the way this woman was treated. She was so trusting and gullible though. Tragic.
Dark
Well-known member
We are already there. All spiritual life is exempt.
Now why I signed up to have amnesia, and play a part in this violent video adventure game, I dunno. I guess when it stops breathing I will return to truth. Maybe I lost a bet. Maybe I snorted an exploding star and hazily took the wrong path home.
Now why I signed up to have amnesia, and play a part in this violent video adventure game, I dunno. I guess when it stops breathing I will return to truth. Maybe I lost a bet. Maybe I snorted an exploding star and hazily took the wrong path home.
F.Bullbait
Wise Guy
The bridge to total freedom? Isn't that the bridge to no how, no where, no why?
onceuponatime
Well-known member
I could give a longer answer but the simple answer is no.
Karakorum
千差万別
Cat's Squirrel
Well-known member
I don't think there is, no, and people I've known in the past who claimed to have finished NOTS, i.e. got further up the Bridge than I did, said the same thing. I have to say though that one of those was very happy with where he did get to even if it wasn't "Total Freedom." (No, this wasn't in the CofS.)
The last thing the CofS wants is for any of its parishioners to end cycle with them and become totally free, because free people aren't forever paying out money for auditing and training (and may also decide to say "No" when asked for donations as well). It's the irony of their situation; they claim to be trying to make the able more able, but don't want them to ever be able to say "No" if it would be detrimental to their own interests.
Cat's Squirrel
Well-known member
She probably got sec checked half to death before she was allowed to go on the ship. It's a weeding out process; those who aren't in full agreement with "Command Intention" don't get the chance to do the higher levels of the bridge, so those who do get there are trusting and gullible by default.
HelluvaHoax!
Well-known member
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LOL!
Well, I made it up to OT 40 and have the lapel pin to prove it!
It's amazing up here in the theta universe, so keep working on your Bridge down there on that DB slave planet and one day you will hopefully make it too.
I would love to tell you my gains and demonstrate my magically mystical & miraculous powers, but ethical OT don't do that. We are held to a very strict ethical code to not go out-gradient around low-level MEST beings. That's why instead of simply postulating millions of new Scientologists flooding into our Ideal Org, OTs sit on the sidewalk waiting and hoping someone will come up and do a free pinch test.
Once everyone on the planet is OT 40, then we'll be able to use our powers out in the open!
ps: If you pay for your 40 OT levels this week you will be sent a 100% free lapel pin that has a genuine gold plated OT symbol on it surrounded by 40 priceless genuine cubic zirconia gemstones!
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ILove2Lurk
. . Lisbeth Salander . . Back in Sweden
Homo sapiens showed up about 200,000 years ago with a population of about 10,000 to 30,000,
per estimates.
There are currently 7 billion people on earth today. The Population Reference Bureau estimates
that about 107 billion people have ever lived.
During all those 200,000 years, probably all those 107 billion people have asked a variation of the
question -- whether about total freedom through reincarnation, heaven, nirvana, the bridge, crossing
over the abyss, out of body travel, mental therapy, religion, etc. -- without a definitive answer.
I'm in that group. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
per estimates.
There are currently 7 billion people on earth today. The Population Reference Bureau estimates
that about 107 billion people have ever lived.
During all those 200,000 years, probably all those 107 billion people have asked a variation of the
question -- whether about total freedom through reincarnation, heaven, nirvana, the bridge, crossing
over the abyss, out of body travel, mental therapy, religion, etc. -- without a definitive answer.
I'm in that group. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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