Kalle
troubleshooter
BINGO!Yes, Tobias Guckel in Rappenhof, a tiny burg. Such a beautiful region of Germany.
I lived 8 or 10 Kilometers from him in Fürsteneck for ten years - moved out finally three years ago
BINGO!Yes, Tobias Guckel in Rappenhof, a tiny burg. Such a beautiful region of Germany.
I think having lost that second world war - could be Germany's great advantage in the future - as all types of war are "out" in Germany."pfuschen"
Even with the disadvantage in manufacturing capability I think Germany would have won WW2 if that idea was implemented on a large scale. But it goes against the German personality trait of wonderfully complex precision? Or is that an American preconception of mine?
Santa Cruz to Capitola is really pretty. The beaches in Vina Del Mar, Chile are almost exactly the same, which is interesting because it's the exact opposite hemisphere geographically.
Of course.I think having lost that second world war - could be Germany's great advantage in the future - as all types of war are "out" in Germany.
Let me explain:
I come from a completly materialistic family - engaged in the field of medical, operations, drugs, vaccination & pills untill death . . . My dad committed suicide in 63 . . . I was supposed to follow him . . . but suicide was NO solution for me for ANY problem . . . so I became some kind of a rebell . . . I gave a shit to what all those academic professors in my family preached on the body and the brain - as they had no HONEST solution - but kept on searching . . .
Germany has something - that no other people have to my knowledge - globalists try to crush it and make little America here too, but it might not work . . .
There is a history of FREEDOM
and it is not material - it is SPIRITUAL freedom - it is freedom to go against each & everyone, if you are convinced deep down inside . . .
And I happen to be one of those species - who does not care what the rest of the world tells me - once I am convinced of something by PROOF.
To make me change my approach - you need PROOF of superiority - and I follow you with ease . . .
Do you get the difference . . . ?
I am a simple man . . .Of course.
Martin Luther, 95 Theses.
NO - I do NOT believe you!" . . .you believe an anonymous source . . ."
Must be true right? I read it on the internet.The class 12 auditor dated when I came into this body. It was when this body was dying at 4 years 7 months old about February 1950. This body was born 1945.
That blew open more in me than anything else in this life time. I got home later and layed down and asked, "who am I " and the word Maitreya come to me and I was flooded with white light for a long time, the most beautiful powerful light ever and suddenly I jumped up and went to the Internet and found inelia Benz on PA and her story is similar to mine. This is my first time in this physical universe. I was created right out of source. The auditor couldn't take me in a past life because there was nothing there. This timeline is created new with no past to look. The meter was reading something that came from one of my other timelines. So I had to go to source and go back in time on my other timelines time track to answer the question.
After this when I was on Project Avalon (Bill Ryan's site) and the person from Ron's org contacted me he said the ability to go in and out of time is called superstatic rundown. Then some entity come inside me and wanted to deliver a message. The message came in words in my head.
The words were that LRH asked David Miscaverige to drop his body in a way he can leave the planet and escape the force fields around the planet and go back to galactic central and report the illegal take over of the Governments of the planet by aliens. The aliens from 900 years in the future sent sleeper children into the upper management to take over Scientology from inside. This means the upper management have minds controlled by aliens. LRH ordered DM to get all the children out of upper management and to prevent any OT level tech from getting to the aliens and going to the future. Bill Ryan kept me on PA because he was psychic attacked by reptilians from 900 years in the future. His mods wanted to kick me off PA. That's why he made a Q and A about Scientology
The sleeper children let in the FBI to takeover the çhurch. My friend was OT6 and went to Flag Service Org and told me they knew Scientology was taken over by the cabal but their attitude was, "it's just another game."
Hello Karakorum,
Do we have anyone else on the boards who had anything to do with Inv, or OSA and can share any more insight into their tactics? Or has any good tips on how to spot/deal/avoid them?
So, what would be the exact date when the change happened in your opinion, 1975?Hello Karakorum,
I could share my observation from the best Class IV Org on the planet in 1975 with a Guardians Office in the house:
My job was that of the Dir of Communication.
Life inside & outside the org was Affinity, Reality & Communication - everything open & honest.
NOTHING was ANONYMOUS, there were NO secrets, NO "non disclosure agreements"
Best description would be "party", "enthusiasm", "spirit of play"
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So, what would be the exact date when the change happened in your opinion, 1975?
Also, was it a very rapid change, or was it a gradual one that happened over several years?
Well, most people from that era told me (or they wrote in their books) that the change was gradual. Kalle seems to be saying something else, hence I asked him to hear his story. I'm not saying I believe in the CIA takeover theory, but still I'd like to hear from Kalle how it was in his eyes.There was no change ... the GO (Guardian Office) are the very same band of robotic thugs they always were ... they just renamed themselves OSA (Office of Special Affairs) in the mid 80's to try and appear to be different after the disaster of Snow White hit the news and created an 'out PT situation' (lol).
Snow White.
What has changed in the last 12 or so years is that ex scientologists have gradually exposed the whole disgusting story to the world and OSA are now toothless and useless and can no longer terrorise us ... if they ever try though just report everything straight to the Police as you would for any criminal activity.
There wouldn't be any need for OSA to exist in the first place or anything for them to 'handle' if the org staff didn't create so much aggravation from their 'church' posts which they do based purely on hubbards policy's which can/will never be made obsolete.Well, most people from that era told me (or they wrote in their books) that the change was gradual. Kalle seems to be saying something else, hence I asked him to hear his story. I'm not saying I believe in the CIA takeover theory, but still I'd like to hear from Kalle how it was in his eyes.
Also, while the mindset might not have changed, as far as I'm aware from the organizational point of view OSA did change from the GO days. GO was a more generalized, wider-reaching structure. OSA is more specialized and departmentalized so to speak. Now you have inv and OSA legal and ethics covering internal dissent etc.
Back in the GO day it was all more centralized and the same people handled everything. Which is probably one of the reasons why the changes went towards diffusing the various responsibilities and tasks. Probably it was decided that a bit too much power and info is concentrated in one place.
Well, that's a great question altogether: "Why the hell does a church need and intelligence agency? Is this churchlike? Is it ecclesiastical?"There wouldn't be any need for OSA to exist in the first place or anything for them to 'handle' if the org staff didn't create so much aggravation from their 'church' posts which they do based purely on hubbards policy's which can/will never be made obsolete.
Attack attack attack will always be the ultimate battle cry and solution in any situation OSA are involved in ... even if they do use PR tactics to try and make it appear otherwise.
How do you think they have changed? I imagine they are now finally aware that they won't get away with the things they have done in the past so have toned the thuggery right down but that's about it.
I have no idea WHEN OSA was installed in Munich, but I could find it out, if it is important for you, as I have enough surviving friends from those old days, when we created that "ideal scene" in Munich/ Germany.So, what would be the exact date when the change happened in your opinion, 1975?
Also, was it a very rapid change, or was it a gradual one that happened over several years?
YEAH,Thanks, I was just curious about the timeline. Most people I know described the change as a slow process, most pointing to the early 80s as the beginning of it.
HERE is a story from YOUR "veterans today" - I just received as E-mail - but it "fits" into the scenario . . .Thanks,