False flag operations and fake personas

Chuck J.

"Austere Religious Scholar"
"pfuschen"
Even with the disadvantage in manufacturing capability I think Germany would have won WW2 if that idea was implemented on a large scale. But it goes against the German personality trait of wonderfully complex precision? Or is that an American preconception of mine?

Santa Cruz to Capitola is really pretty. The beaches in Vina Del Mar, Chile are almost exactly the same, which is interesting because it's the exact opposite hemisphere geographically.
 

Kalle

troubleshooter
"pfuschen"
Even with the disadvantage in manufacturing capability I think Germany would have won WW2 if that idea was implemented on a large scale. But it goes against the German personality trait of wonderfully complex precision? Or is that an American preconception of mine?

Santa Cruz to Capitola is really pretty. The beaches in Vina Del Mar, Chile are almost exactly the same, which is interesting because it's the exact opposite hemisphere geographically.
I think having lost that second world war - could be Germany's great advantage in the future - as all types of war are "out" in Germany.

Let me explain:
I come from a completly materialistic family - engaged in the field of medical, operations, drugs, vaccination & pills untill death . . . My dad committed suicide in 63 . . . I was supposed to follow him . . . but suicide was NO solution for me for ANY problem . . . so I became some kind of a rebell . . . I gave a shit to what all those academic professors in my family preached on the body and the brain - as they had no HONEST solution - but kept on searching . . .

Germany has something - that no other people have to my knowledge - globalists try to crush it and make little America here too, but it might not work . . .

There is a history of FREEDOM

and it is not material - it is SPIRITUAL freedom - it is freedom to go against each & everyone, if you are convinced deep down inside . . .

And I happen to be one of those species - who does not care what the rest of the world tells me - once I am convinced of something by PROOF.

To make me change my approach - you need PROOF of superiority - and I follow you with ease . . .

Do you get the difference . . . ?
 

Chuck J.

"Austere Religious Scholar"
I think having lost that second world war - could be Germany's great advantage in the future - as all types of war are "out" in Germany.

Let me explain:
I come from a completly materialistic family - engaged in the field of medical, operations, drugs, vaccination & pills untill death . . . My dad committed suicide in 63 . . . I was supposed to follow him . . . but suicide was NO solution for me for ANY problem . . . so I became some kind of a rebell . . . I gave a shit to what all those academic professors in my family preached on the body and the brain - as they had no HONEST solution - but kept on searching . . .

Germany has something - that no other people have to my knowledge - globalists try to crush it and make little America here too, but it might not work . . .

There is a history of FREEDOM

and it is not material - it is SPIRITUAL freedom - it is freedom to go against each & everyone, if you are convinced deep down inside . . .

And I happen to be one of those species - who does not care what the rest of the world tells me - once I am convinced of something by PROOF.

To make me change my approach - you need PROOF of superiority - and I follow you with ease . . .

Do you get the difference . . . ?
Of course.
Martin Luther, 95 Theses.
 

Kalle

troubleshooter
Of course.
Martin Luther, 95 Theses.
I am a simple man . . .
. . . and I'm lazy too - so I boiled "it" all down, to only ONE thesis: ("it" = christianity)

There is BEFORE Christ - then comes JESUS from NAZARETH - and there is AFTER Christ

and BEFORE Christ and AFTER Christ = SATANISM, like american politics from the very
start with a genozide of the american indian natives, the REAL owners of that beautiful
land & country which to the present time is NOT IS'ed . . .

So the only REAL fight is SATANISM against CHISTIANISM . . . !


"Eye For An Eye", is an ancient method from BEFORE Christ, and exclusively used by
real CRIMINALS of pure satanic intent, to SUPPRESS people - like "modern" sanctions
against China, Iran, (put in ANY country) . . .

SUPPRESS people like death penalty, like prisons, like police state, like 220 wars in 200 years . . .

And then JESUS of NAZARETH came along - and that guy was a great teacher of great wisdom . . .

WHO BROKE THAT VICIOUS CYCLE "Eye For An Eye" SO THE VICIOUS CRIMINAL SATANISTS
MURDERED HIM, and RE-installed their satanic "Eye For An Eye" principle again . . .

And THAT is why the US needs the biggest army in the word . . .

Because all that power, all that intelligence, all that ingenuity serves SATAN . . .

And so that entire nation is stuck in that vicous satanic cycle - which I call the overt motivator cycle

And so Americans in their SPIRITUAL ignorance from stupidity - returned to the ancient times BEFORE Christ . . . !

And THAT is where they have stayed MENTALLY ever since . . .

DEEPLY FROZEN into THEIR PRE-christian SATANISM & that seemingly invincible PRE-historic SPIRITUAL prison, that makes this never ending "OVERT-MOTIVATOR-SEQUENCE" - their everyday vicious cycle from hell!

As long as America does NOT understand, WHY & WHAT this spiritual teacher called JESUS from NAZARETH taught, now more than 2020 years ago - these "modern" Americans on steroids will be stuck in their PRE-historic SPIRITUALITY, which is pure SATANISM from the OLD Testament, from the TALMUD & from the THORA, and DICTATED from SATAN - and they will not ever understand, that another great man, from yet another SPIRITUAL universe of peaceful wisdom, they also did not ever understand - and whom they also murdered in their satanic FEAR, like they murdered all the others, that tried to FREE their people from those SPIRITUAL & satanic chains.

UNDERSTANDING comes AFTER wordclearing!

And BEFORE this UNDERSTANDING will happen - one MUST, MUST, MUST clean out ALL old & FALSE data from your hard-drive - otherwise you will be confused & overwhelmed from TOO MUCH contradicting DATA.

And if you wonder, WHY that exceptional nation, with those exceptional people could be trapped inside that exceptional prison - well the SATANISTS KNOW how clearing works - so they did the exact OPPOSITE and the CAMOUFLAGE of those biggest CRIMES ever, against humanity & freedom has worked perfectly until today, as they put a FALSE label on their CHEMICALLY induced & boosted HYPNOSIS, when they called it "washing" the brain . . .

Look at "MK-ULTRA" and all the other secret operations, that because of F.O.I.A. can be found in tiny traces, that escaped destroying the PROOF & even from scattered fractions of those documented crimes, one can get a glimpse of the atrocities and start to understand even from your government's CENSORED servers, and with the help of courageous american detectives in safe countries, whistleblowers, and other researchers that are NOT corrupted and NOT bound by satanic NON DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS - which are PROOF, PROOF, PROOF - that you are all BUT a free country . . . !

THIS is what truly free people researched and veryfied and published for all of humanity on the REAL story:

But start to clean your hard-drive first, and create enough FREE space for the facts as they are - only an honest investigation comes up with the REAL facts - and only the REAL facts will blow away the fear & the blood & the sweat & the tears!

 
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PirateAndBum

Administrator
Staff member
@Kalle, I read the Slave to Israel article. So you believe an anonymous source with no actual evidence, mere speculation/conjecture. You need to clean your hard drive.
 

PirateAndBum

Administrator
Staff member
The class 12 auditor dated when I came into this body. It was when this body was dying at 4 years 7 months old about February 1950. This body was born 1945.

That blew open more in me than anything else in this life time. I got home later and layed down and asked, "who am I " and the word Maitreya come to me and I was flooded with white light for a long time, the most beautiful powerful light ever and suddenly I jumped up and went to the Internet and found inelia Benz on PA and her story is similar to mine. This is my first time in this physical universe. I was created right out of source. The auditor couldn't take me in a past life because there was nothing there. This timeline is created new with no past to look. The meter was reading something that came from one of my other timelines. So I had to go to source and go back in time on my other timelines time track to answer the question.

After this when I was on Project Avalon (Bill Ryan's site) and the person from Ron's org contacted me he said the ability to go in and out of time is called superstatic rundown. Then some entity come inside me and wanted to deliver a message. The message came in words in my head.
The words were that LRH asked David Miscaverige to drop his body in a way he can leave the planet and escape the force fields around the planet and go back to galactic central and report the illegal take over of the Governments of the planet by aliens. The aliens from 900 years in the future sent sleeper children into the upper management to take over Scientology from inside. This means the upper management have minds controlled by aliens. LRH ordered DM to get all the children out of upper management and to prevent any OT level tech from getting to the aliens and going to the future. Bill Ryan kept me on PA because he was psychic attacked by reptilians from 900 years in the future. His mods wanted to kick me off PA. That's why he made a Q and A about Scientology

The sleeper children let in the FBI to takeover the çhurch. My friend was OT6 and went to Flag Service Org and told me they knew Scientology was taken over by the cabal but their attitude was, "it's just another game."
Must be true right? I read it on the internet.
 
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Karakorum

Ron is the source that will lead you to grief
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Do we have anyone else on the boards who had anything to do with Inv, OSA or other enforcement branches external or internal and can share any more insight into their tactics? Or has any good tips on how to spot/deal/avoid them?
 
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Kalle

troubleshooter
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Do we have anyone else on the boards who had anything to do with Inv, or OSA and can share any more insight into their tactics? Or has any good tips on how to spot/deal/avoid them?
Hello Karakorum,
I could share my observation from the best Class IV Org on the planet in 1975 with a Guardians Office in the house:
My job was that of the Dir of Communication.
Life inside & outside the org was Affinity, Reality & Communication - everything open & honest.
NOTHING was ANONYMOUS, there were NO secrets, NO "non disclosure agreements"
Best description would be "party", "enthusiasm", "spirit of play"

Then everything changed - when OSA was installed - everything went from pleasure to pain & to death
The culture changed from OPEN to SECRET, no more ARC into SECRET WAR, no more enthusiasm, crashing stats, dead people, sick people, endless war, 9/11, more war, NSA, CIA, FBI, WHO, Georgia Guide Stones and the PLAN-ned GENOZIDE of 7 billion people is now called "philanthropy" in America . . .

WE call that SATANISM & we call it Covid-1984 . . .

THAT is my own observation

Scientology changed into ANTI-Scientology

And you don't even have the right anymore to observe what you see

Someone has taken OVER - and I call it SATAN - what is happening in that church is NOT scientology

Todays Church of Scientology is the exact OPPOSITE from the LRH-Original

EVERY single word has been changed in its meaning

I am a professional wordclearer

Just observing

Love
 

Karakorum

Ron is the source that will lead you to grief
Hello Karakorum,
I could share my observation from the best Class IV Org on the planet in 1975 with a Guardians Office in the house:
My job was that of the Dir of Communication.
Life inside & outside the org was Affinity, Reality & Communication - everything open & honest.
NOTHING was ANONYMOUS, there were NO secrets, NO "non disclosure agreements"
Best description would be "party", "enthusiasm", "spirit of play"
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So, what would be the exact date when the change happened in your opinion, 1975?
Also, was it a very rapid change, or was it a gradual one that happened over several years?
 

I told you I was trouble

Suspended animation.
So, what would be the exact date when the change happened in your opinion, 1975?
Also, was it a very rapid change, or was it a gradual one that happened over several years?

There was no change ... the GO (Guardian Office) are the very same band of robotic thugs they always were ... they just renamed themselves OSA (Office of Special Affairs) in the mid 80's to try and appear to be different after the disaster of Snow White hit the news and created an 'out PT situation' (lol).

Snow White.

What has changed in the last 12 or so years is that ex scientologists have gradually exposed the whole disgusting story to the world and OSA are now toothless and useless and can no longer terrorise us ... if they ever try though just report everything straight to the Police as you would for any criminal activity.

:)
 

Karakorum

Ron is the source that will lead you to grief
There was no change ... the GO (Guardian Office) are the very same band of robotic thugs they always were ... they just renamed themselves OSA (Office of Special Affairs) in the mid 80's to try and appear to be different after the disaster of Snow White hit the news and created an 'out PT situation' (lol).

Snow White.

What has changed in the last 12 or so years is that ex scientologists have gradually exposed the whole disgusting story to the world and OSA are now toothless and useless and can no longer terrorise us ... if they ever try though just report everything straight to the Police as you would for any criminal activity.

:)
Well, most people from that era told me (or they wrote in their books) that the change was gradual. Kalle seems to be saying something else, hence I asked him to hear his story. I'm not saying I believe in the CIA takeover theory, but still I'd like to hear from Kalle how it was in his eyes.

Also, while the mindset might not have changed, as far as I'm aware from the organizational point of view OSA did change from the GO days. GO was a more generalized, wider-reaching structure. OSA is more specialized and departmentalized so to speak. Now you have inv and OSA legal and ethics covering internal dissent etc.

Back in the GO day it was all more centralized and the same people handled everything. Which is probably one of the reasons why the changes went towards diffusing the various responsibilities and tasks. Probably it was decided that a bit too much power and info is concentrated in one place.
 
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I told you I was trouble

Suspended animation.
Well, most people from that era told me (or they wrote in their books) that the change was gradual. Kalle seems to be saying something else, hence I asked him to hear his story. I'm not saying I believe in the CIA takeover theory, but still I'd like to hear from Kalle how it was in his eyes.

Also, while the mindset might not have changed, as far as I'm aware from the organizational point of view OSA did change from the GO days. GO was a more generalized, wider-reaching structure. OSA is more specialized and departmentalized so to speak. Now you have inv and OSA legal and ethics covering internal dissent etc.

Back in the GO day it was all more centralized and the same people handled everything. Which is probably one of the reasons why the changes went towards diffusing the various responsibilities and tasks. Probably it was decided that a bit too much power and info is concentrated in one place.
There wouldn't be any need for OSA to exist in the first place or anything for them to 'handle' if the org staff didn't create so much aggravation from their 'church' posts which they do based purely on hubbards policy's which can/will never be made obsolete.

Attack attack attack will always be the ultimate battle cry and solution in any situation OSA are involved in ... even if they do use PR tactics to try and make it appear otherwise.

How do you think they have changed? I imagine they are now finally aware that they won't get away with the things they have done in the past so have toned the thuggery right down but that's about it.

:confused:
 

Karakorum

Ron is the source that will lead you to grief
There wouldn't be any need for OSA to exist in the first place or anything for them to 'handle' if the org staff didn't create so much aggravation from their 'church' posts which they do based purely on hubbards policy's which can/will never be made obsolete.

Attack attack attack will always be the ultimate battle cry and solution in any situation OSA are involved in ... even if they do use PR tactics to try and make it appear otherwise.

How do you think they have changed? I imagine they are now finally aware that they won't get away with the things they have done in the past so have toned the thuggery right down but that's about it.

:confused:
Well, that's a great question altogether: "Why the hell does a church need and intelligence agency? Is this churchlike? Is it ecclesiastical?"

As for how they changed? Well, from an external viewpoint they I think became less focused on "client-facing-black-ops" because with modern day and everyone having a camera they just can't get away with such things. They also became less litigatious (I don;'t have any idea why). But I imagine their online operations and bullying became more sophisticated and flexible. They are still able to scare people out of lawsuits against the church - the recent court case that was suddenly dropped is case in point.

From an internal viewpoint the GO was more centralized, had wider ranging responsibilities and appears to have been a more powerful, more central organization within the church than what OSA is. I wasn't there but i had access to GO era documentation. Some former GO responsibilities were directed elesewhere or dispersed among competing teams. FinPo can be an example.
 

Kalle

troubleshooter
So, what would be the exact date when the change happened in your opinion, 1975?
Also, was it a very rapid change, or was it a gradual one that happened over several years?
I have no idea WHEN OSA was installed in Munich, but I could find it out, if it is important for you, as I have enough surviving friends from those old days, when we created that "ideal scene" in Munich/ Germany.
I had left in spring 1976 to Cop doing the "power change" formula when, everything seemed perfect . . .

When I returned for the first time around christmas 1976 - everything had changed completely - and everybody seemed overwhelmed like after "little boy" had been dropped on Hiroshima on august 6, 1945 . . .
People were scared shitless, estranged, and I did not understand anything in the beginning . . .
From one moment to the other - ALL my friends, all my com-lines, even my memory - DESTROYED, GONE . . .

It took me 28 years - before I understood a FIRST part of a possible reason - WHY they were at war with me:
Flag had managed to turn my brother & my mother against me in a SECRET plot - which I discovered shortly after the death of my mother in Ferbruary 2004, when I managed to get hold of a CONFIDENTIAL knowledge-report, written by my brother accusing me, my wife, my mother, the mother of my wife and even our Doberman (dog) to be suppressive & insane . . . (THAT is when I realized HOW they had destroyed everything - they had turned Original-Scientology fom OPEN, ARC, ENTHUSIASM, FREEDOM, into a typical and criminal SECRET government agency)

So I started to find out the facts, that after I had been the FSM of my brother and my mother in 1975 and 1976 - someone organized a SECRET changing of the REAL facts - and SECRETELY organized, that I was silenced with the well organized, and also SECRET help of Flag.

So for 44 years I had written Knowledge-Reports with copies to the accused and copies to everybody concerned with whatever I had discovered of that COVERT CRIME-SCENE, including Int. Justice Chief, RTC, David Miscavige, including Ethics Munich, Ethics EU and Ethics Flag & Ethics INT, that never, ever changed ANYTHING - which ended abruptly in 2004 - when I discovered how Flag had been the SECRET CENTER to that CRIME, and had abused of their power, to destroy our family with PROFESSIONALLY applied ANTI-Scientology.

THAT is why then I adapted a viewpoint from higher above - when I realized FLAG had turned criminal - and then I realized I was not alone in this epic battle for truth.

Regarding part two of your question, it felt like a RAPID change only ONCE - the very moment I returned to my friends in Munch, at the end of 1976 - after my absence from Munich for almost a year . . .

So for THEM it had happened slowly . . .

THAT is why I came to my personal conclusion, that this was not an inside-failure like a gradual "let go" of standard tech & standard ethics - but an extremely well PLAN-ned ORGANIZED CRIME from the outside - and that is when I met people with similar perceptions, and so I studied everything about "PSYCHIOSIS" from LRH and I studied the CIA through a book: "A terrible mistake" by Hank P. Albarelly Jr. "THE MURDER OF FRANK OLSON AND THE SECRET COLD WAR EXPERIMENTS" - to learn how that most criminal organisation of all times, that my friends suspected, to CAMOUFLAGE behind all those crimes, how this SECRET group, would work, and HOW it would go about this operation.? As I found out, the CIA had been established right after WW II, with the help of german nazis, ("operation paperclip") which they even signed, when they created MK-ULTRA! (Mind Control in english is written with a C, but the NAZI's in the CIA left their signature, as they called it MK-ULTRA for Mind Kontrolle . . .
If you want to understand HOW the CIA operates, THIS book is a must read, as Hank Albarelly researched inside that CIA with F.O.I.A. permission! And the more I dig into this - the more clear becomes the COVERT handwriting of the CIA - all over the place . . .

And NOW is a time - when scientologists and others alike - see the hand of "big brother" organizing, what we in Germany call a PLAN-demic with a BIO-WEAPON . . .

So the takeover of Scientology becomes just another "event" in that criminal "war on terror", against that peaceful woodstock-generation, I have been part of for all of my life - when at that infamous Monterey concert a group of HELLS ANGELS paid by Mick Jagger for "security"- murdered one of the visitors . . . Then the Baghvan was killed in FBI-custody with Thallium, Jim Jones and 945 with him from the peoples temple in Guyana, Wako Texas followed, then the muslims became the target, and the CIA became the number one SECRET financer of terrorism, until Donald Trump anounced in one of his very early LIFE press-conferences - he had ORDERED the CIA to stop financing the ISLAMIC STATE . . . I could not believe it, and was curious how Germany would react to THAT one?
BUT THAT MOST IMPORTANT NEWS TO ME - WAS NEVER EVER REPEATED ANYWHERE . . .
So I understood THAT war America was fighting in perfectly organized SECRECY - was something totally different - from what they told their people and the world in the news . . .

Does that answer your questions?
 
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Karakorum

Ron is the source that will lead you to grief
Thanks, I was just curious about the timeline. Most people I know described the change as a slow process, most pointing to the early 80s as the beginning of it.
 

Kalle

troubleshooter
Thanks, I was just curious about the timeline. Most people I know described the change as a slow process, most pointing to the early 80s as the beginning of it.
YEAH,
same in Europe . . .

But as an AUDITOR you learn, if a problem does NOT resolve - you kindly ask with good TR's for an EARLIER SIMILAR problem . . .

And only then - when you hit ROCK-BOTTOM of the problem, and CLEAR it up - everything else resolves, and MANY needles start floating again . . .

THAT profession was my GOAL - but they were scared of me, and my obsession for absolute precision - as I know NOW. I come from the world of Porsches, racing BMW's and AMG's - so you NEED precision - if you want to survive!

Sanity is defined as the ability to differenciate - what was that - identities, similarities and differences . . .
ANYWAY - I really appreciate your questions - it communicates a REAL desire to understand . . . !

So, I would like to THANK YOU!
 
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Kalle

troubleshooter
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