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Did the original poster leave ESMB already?

QUESTION: Even though I never posted on this thread, is there some way I can get still get the full credit for running them off of ESMB? I would hate to think that my reputation and street cred are being unfairly criticized & compromised like that!

LOL

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No, that would be mainly on me.
But all he had to do was respond to our replies, but he wouldn't.
Felt like he dropped a covert turd on us and ran the way the last two sentences in paragraph 1 seemed to have been crafted.
"...for those who have had and/or continue to have horrific experiences with and/or in SCN and the SO. We are each ultimately responsible for where we are and the condition we are in.
I, for one, recently posted about SCN tracking me while vacationing in the Caribbean as told to me by an old Scilon friend who had been repeatedly interrogated by the then GO with regards to what I'd been saying about them during and after my escape.
I had a very close call as we were told by resort staff that the man shot on the beach outside our room looked enough like me that they thought it was me initially while vacationing in the DR back in or around 2007!
Makes me jumpy, crap like that.
The rest of the post resultingly seemed like a puppy and guppy, sweet lullaby's and fair roads pile of dribble after that.
Again text book LRH.
All I wanted was to get off their mailing lists after I left in the late 70's but they felt I was unentitled.
They were going to force me to be a Scientologist whether I wanted to be or not.
 
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No, that would be mainly on me.
But all he had to do was respond to our replies, but he wouldn't.
Felt like he dropped a covert turd on us and ran the way the last two sentences in paragraph 1 seemed to have been crafted.
"...for those who have had and/or continue to have horrific experiences with and/or in SCN and the SO. We are each ultimately responsible for where we are and the condition we are in.
I, for one, recently posted about SCN tracking me while vacationing in the Caribbean as told to me by an old Scilon friend who had been repeatedly interrogated by the then GO with regards to what I'd been saying about them during and after my escape.
I had a very close call as we were told by resort staff that the man shot on the beach outside our room looked enough like me that they thought it was me initially while vacationing in the DR back in or around 2007!
Makes me jumpy, crap like that.
The rest of the post resultingly seemed like a puppy and guppy, sweet lullaby's and fair roads pile of dribble after that.
Again text book LRH.
All I wanted was to get off their mailing lists after I left in the late 70's but they felt I was unentitled.
They were going to force me to be a Scientologist whether I wanted to be or not.


Thank you. I found what you said quite interesting and informative!

However, notwithstanding all that, I regrettably had to report you to the board moderator because of all your micro-aggressive attacks against my reputation. I work very hard at what I do and I am deeply offended that another (such as yourself) would blatantly throw shade on me and try to claim the 'stolen glory' of blowing people off the board who I feel confident that I should get all the credit for.

I know that you probably are wondering how I could have possibly blown someone off this thread when I did not post anything on this thread. However, you are invalidating my tone 40 intention and postulates.

I don't think it's as serious as it sounds. You probably can get it straightened out poketa-poketa with an amends project to make up the damage--and so forth and so on, on this planet.

:)


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Wellllll, I think we should all try and agree on one thing at a time and I feel the first thing should be the timing of the Annual Christmas Punch Up (ACPU).

Should we (for instance) bring this years ACPU forward and get it over and done with now, this thread would be as good as any? Or, should we just admit that extra tensions may have built up early (due in part to COVID lockdown) and have two this year ... the Christmas one is usually quite spectacular and many of us would miss it if it were cancelled.

Thoughts?

Also (message to @Veda) ... if you can't see that the OP was practically hoping for some mud to be slung at him so he could justify slinging some back, you must be going blind.

His vulgar intro joke wasn't funny or clever either (I notice you didn't bother to quote that).

Come at me bro!

:stickpoke:

Only joking Veda ... I'm off out for a long, peaceful walk in a moment.

@I-amPneuma8 ... er, welcome to ESMB, you should fit right in (if you plan on coming back that is, which I doubt).
 
Thank you. I found what you said quite interesting and informative!

However, notwithstanding all that, I regrettably had to report you to the board moderator because of all your micro-aggressive attacks against my reputation. I work very hard at what I do and I am deeply offended that another (such as yourself) would blatantly throw shade on me and try to claim the 'stolen glory' of blowing people off the board who I feel confident that I should get all the credit for.

I know that you probably are wondering how I could have possibly blown someone off this thread when I did not post anything on this thread. However, you are invalidating my tone 40 intention and postulates.

I don't think it's as serious as it sounds. You probably can get it straightened out poketa-poketa with an amends project to make up the damage--and so forth and so on, on this planet.

:)


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It was nothing to do with you! It was not your fault! So there!

Your tone 40 intention (and your postulates) are complete rubbish! It was all MY FAULT.

Try harder next time.

:devil:
 
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Also (message to @Veda) ... if you can't see that the OP was practically hoping for some mud to be slung at him so he could justify slinging some back, you must be going blind.

His vulgar intro joke wasn't funny or clever either (I notice you didn't bother to quote that).

Come at me bro!

:stickpoke:

Only joking Veda ... I'm off out for a long, peaceful walk in a moment.

@I-amPneuma8 ... er, welcome to ESMB, you should fit right in (if you plan on coming back that is, which I doubt).

Was trying to strike a balance, on the possibility that I-amPneuma8 does not have bad intentions.

Benefit of the doubt and all that.
 
Was trying to strike a balance, on the possibility that I-amPneuma8 does not have bad intentions.
Did the original poster leave ESMB already?
Again, he worked face-to-face on a daily basis with Hubbard for a decade or more.
He must have taken a lot of crap along the way. You don't work in Ron's periphery
without being a very tough guy.

What's the worry? This is not a child we're dealing with. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Write him a PM. It probably -- likely -- gets forwarded to his email account, if he didn't
customize his ESMB2 personal account settings much. He can answer you back via a
private PM here. Problem solved.

Anybody who thinks a new member has been roughly or badly responded to has total
free will to contact that person in a PM (private message) and deliver the appropriate
hand holding or apologies. This message board -- like all message boards on the Interweb
-- can be a rough place at times. They all are. I've seen it with my own eyes.

Get in comm and minister to the soul via PM. Possibly make a new friend. What's the big deal?

Just some friendly advice. That's what I would do. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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I borrowed this pic from you Veda....

I've been wanting to mention this for quite some time....and never did.

This is probably not the right place to do it....but at least I'll get it posted.

This is about the Promo for KTL.......

Hubbard stated that he was trying to find "the person".....and next to the road....was a ditch....and in the bottom of the ditch....was a hole. And that was where he found the person....in that hole...in the mud.

The KTL course was to undercut the gradient to get one's student hat on? Was the reason people weren't going up the bridge? Was the reason people couldn't duplicate the materials?

I don't know....but I'll tell you....at the time all this was happening....I had already been in the Cult for at least 20 years....

I remember feeling pretty insulted by all these statements...

I remember worrying that now there was ANOTHER stop on the bridge....and hoping that it wouldn't be made a pre-requsite...

And now? I hear that the KTL has been dropped and is no longer available....
I like how it puts mankind's greatest friend LRH at the top and the evil psychs at the bottom.
 
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I borrowed this pic from you Veda....

I've been wanting to mention this for quite some time....and never did.

This is probably not the right place to do it....but at least I'll get it posted.

This is about the Promo for KTL.......

Hubbard stated that he was trying to find "the person".....and next to the road....was a ditch....and in the bottom of the ditch....was a hole. And that was where he found the person....in that hole...in the mud.

The KTL course was to undercut the gradient to get one's student hat on? Was the reason people weren't going up the bridge? Was the reason people couldn't duplicate the materials?

I don't know....but I'll tell you....at the time all this was happening....I had already been in the Cult for at least 20 years....

I remember feeling pretty insulted by all these statements...

I remember worrying that now there was ANOTHER stop on the bridge....and hoping that it wouldn't be made a pre-requsite...

And now? I hear that the KTL has been dropped and is no longer available....

Key to Life course

My take can be found in post #10.
 
when a poster who has never read or seen any of HelluvaHoax's posts spontaneously needs to leave because they can perceive his presence on other threads.
Worse yet, there have been some new members who have "spontaneously combusted"
without an apparent external source of ignition, while sitting at their computers, and
never heard from again after contacting the presence of @HelluvaHoax! on the message
board. There's just no way to explain that either.

A note about OSA trolls
People ask why do they do it. What are they trying to achieve?
In Scientology there is something that almost can be defined by
an actual axiom or law.

The Law of Hallucinatory Cause
When Actually Nothing Has Happened

Examples . . .
  • A bunch of people auditing on Solo Nots actually brought down
    the Berlin Wall between East and West.
  • A bunch of folks handed out Way to Happiness Booklets and
    stopped the social unrest trend in Venezuela.
  • Solo Nots auditors in LA brought down crime stats in the city.
  • OSA troll brags to fellow OSA staff that he went on the ESMB message
    board and got them to write twelve posts about my OT8 dad who is
    not in anymore and treated me badly. Screwed them up!
  • OSA troll brags that he posted an LRH datum about being ethical
    and got everyone on the board to feel guilty for the day. Possibly
    many will blow the board in the next week, he predicts.
Actually, nothing happened.
 
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Every section of the KTL has a specific EP and VFP, which you don’t find out about unless you do the delivery courses. It’s a lot more than just small words and grammar. There’s a lot of indoctrination that occurs in a “standard” KTL completion.
 
Worse yet, there have been some new members who have "spontaneously combusted"
without an apparent external source of ignition, while sitting at their computers, and
never heard from again after contacting the presence of @HelluvaHoax! on the message
board. There's just no way to explain that either.

A note about OSA trolls
People ask why do they do it. What are they trying to achieve?
In Scientology there is something that almost can be defined by
an actual axiom or law.

The Law of Hallucinatory Cause
When Actually Nothing Has Happened

Examples . . .
  • A bunch of people auditing on Solo Nots actually brought down
    the Berlin Wall between East and West.
  • A bunch of folks handed out Way to Happiness Booklets and
    stopped the social unrest trend in Venezuela.
  • Solo Nots auditors in LA brought down crime stats in the city.
  • OSA troll brags to fellow OSA staff that he went on the ESMB message
    board and got them to write twelve posts about my OT8 dad who is
    not in anymore and treated me badly. Screwed them up!
  • OSA troll brags that he posted an LRH datum about being ethical
    and got everyone on the board to feel guilty for the day. Possibly
    many will blow the board in the next week, he predicts.
Actually, nothing happened.
All I can say now is that I'm going to make a point of avoiding mew member threads from this post on and let the more experienced handlers on the board deal with them and make their own determinations.
I wasn't even in the sea org so I really can't tell from what all are the tell tale indicators whether a guy is for real or still chained at his leg to SCN & Hub.
 
Worse yet, there have been some new members who have "spontaneously combusted"
without an apparent external source of ignition, while sitting at their computers, and
never heard from again after contacting the presence of @HelluvaHoax! on the message
board. There's just no way to explain that either.

A note about OSA trolls
People ask why do they do it. What are they trying to achieve?
In Scientology there is something that almost can be defined by
an actual axiom or law.

The Law of Hallucinatory Cause
When Actually Nothing Has Happened

Examples . . .
  • A bunch of people auditing on Solo Nots actually brought down
    the Berlin Wall between East and West.
  • A bunch of folks handed out Way to Happiness Booklets and
    stopped the social unrest trend in Venezuela.
  • Solo Nots auditors in LA brought down crime stats in the city.
  • OSA troll brags to fellow OSA staff that he went on the ESMB message
    board and got them to write twelve posts about my OT8 dad who is
    not in anymore and treated me badly. Screwed them up!
  • OSA troll brags that he posted an LRH datum about being ethical
    and got everyone on the board to feel guilty for the day. Possibly
    many will blow the board in the next week, he predicts.
Actually, nothing happened.
Wait, I thought the reason no hurricanes ever make landfall in CW is because of the FLB... , wait a minute. You mean to tell me that is not true??

Oh shit.

Now I need a correction list.

(Sound of breaking out the emeter and cans, setting up for Model Session)

Alright, let's see here, L1C, L4BRB, oh here it is L9BSB (list 9, 2nd revision, Bull Shit)

Room ok?

Tight clothes (Always)

Red infested, I mean fed and rested (Told you I was rusty, didn't I??)

Any Reason?? Well, yes, there is a reason not to do this session.

Tough shit says the auditor

TITS (I always loved writing that on worksheets)
 
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Sorry your thread turned into a "my Ferrari is bigger than your Ferrari" circle jerk.

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