TOP SUPER-STUPID MOMENTS IN SCIENTOLOGY (PART V)

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FOR THOSE WHO PREFER REALITY: The gargantuan pink building featured in the above promo piece on Kansas City IDEAL ORG is not an Ideal Org and has nothing to do with Scientology. Here it is again. . .




That is the UNION STATION, an urban centerpiece that "features exhibits, movies, restaurants, and a science center in a historic train station". And no. No, it's not pink.

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But Scientology would really, really like you to think that it's somehow a mega-win for Maitreya's & Miscavige's merry messianic money ministers.

So, why is it pink, right?

ANSWER: Because the entire Kansas City skyline was (previously) lit up pink for BREAST CANCER awareness month.

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:LOL: :roflmao:

I have some inside skinny for you.

The Los Angeles Scientology complex's awful NEON BLUE color was one of about 8-10 very LOUD, bright, vibrant colors that were personally chosen by L Ron Hubbard.

It was not a mistake. It was not that the sample was too small. In fact, of the 8-10 colors (which were surveyed, these were all the choices people had), that blue was the LEAST offensive color.

Yes, L Ron wanted the Cedars Sinai building, with all its graphics (there were supposed to be all sorts of graphics on the outside, too, but it never happened because of cost or whatever) to look like ONE HUGE ACID TRIP with the blue in the background of the graphics. It was WHAT HE WANTED. :omg:

Later, when others wondered at the insanity of the choices Elron made, he came out with "LSD - Years After..." policy to have others to blame.

He thought it was very, you know - avant garde. :omg: to have a CHURCH that was a hospital complex spanning nearly two square blocks to look like you were trying to cover up some incredibly ugly industrial complex.

In fact, his favorite book on the subject that was used for the complex renovations was 1970s industrial painting graphics and colors.

How's that for STUPID?! :LOL: :roflmao:And people thought the man was a genius? :wtf:
 
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FANTASTICALLY F/Ning FACT
(aka :Why you should ignore real nuclear physicists
and get your tech from Dr. Hubbard instead)

Einstein's IQ was estimated to be an embarrassing 160, while Dr. Hubbard's IQ has scientifically been confirmed to be an astonishing 3,873!

This miraculous IQ score is due to the fact that Ron received 3,801 hours of auditing--with the attendant increase of one IQ point per hour of processing, as predicted in the highly acclaimed scientific book Dianetics.

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So what is REALLY happening when Scientolgists take the IQ and aptitude tests after brainwashing services?
I recall getting pretty high IQ scores and feeling ten feet tall and bullet proof. LOL

Is the Oxford Capacity Analysis test geared to get a person to answer the questions as RON would?
So what is actually happening is the person is taking on Ron's personality/ valence.
The more one thinks like Dr Hubbard - the higher the IQ. Is that what you think is happening with the OCA tests and other tests?
 

HelluvaHoax!

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:LOL: :roflmao:

I have some inside skinny for you. The Los Angeles Scientology complex's awful NEON BLUE color was one of about 8-10 very LOUD, bright, vibrant colors that were personally chosen by L Ron Hubbard. It was not a mistake. It was not that the sample was too small. In fact, of the 8-10 colors (which were surveyed, these were all the choices people had), that blue was the LEAST offensive color. Yes, L Ron wanted the Cedars Sinai building, with all its graphics (there were supposed to be all sorts of graphics on the outside, too, but it never happened because of cost or whatever) to look like ONE HUGE ACID TRIP with the blue in the background of the graphics. It was WHAT HE WANTED. :omg: He thought it was very, you know - avant garde. :omg: to have a CHURCH that was a hospital complex spanning nearly two square blocks to look like you were trying to cover up some incredibly ugly industrial complex. In fact, his favorite book on the subject that was used for the complex renovations was 1970s industrial painting graphics and colors. How's that for STUPID?! And people thought the man was a genius? :wtf:


I think you may be mistaken, because. . .

Dr. Hubbard actually WON A DESIGN AWARD for the blue-painted buildings!

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Ron was the prestigious 2nd Place WINNER in the contest
to find the "TEN UGLIEST BUILDINGS IN LOS ANGELES"

LINK HERE

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HelluvaHoax!

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So what is REALLY happening when Scientolgists take the IQ and aptitude tests after brainwashing services?
Per Dianetics The Modern Science of Mental Health, a person's IQ goes up one point for ever hour of processing they receive.

Let's run the math and see how it works. An average homo sapiens with an average IQ of 100 walks into an org. They want to attain "TOTAL FREEDOM" so they buy their first package of 8 intensives =100 hours of auditing.

At the end of the 100 hours they will need to go visit the reg to buy many hundreds of hours more----but first they are sent to do a new IQ test, to confirm that their IQ is now 200.

So what happens next:

1. Their new IQ score is not 200. Not even close. Never happened even once to anyone in Scientology.

2. If their IQ score changed, it more likely dropped lower, due to the foolishly delusional commands they are forced to follow in session; like remembering a "Gorilla Goal Implant" from 213 quadrillion years ago that never happened.

3. But, let's pretend their IQ did go up by 100 points? They would automatically pay for more auditing at the reg, right?

ANSWER: No. Because the odds of anyone having an IQ of 200 are 1 in 7,252,401,045. That's one person in seven billion, two-hundred and fifty two million! The earth's population is 7.7 billion.​

4. So what would happen then when the person went to the reg?

ANSWER: The person would not go to the reg.

Because. . .

a) Their IQ would not have gone up 100 points, so they would know that Hubbard lied to them to get their money--and thus they would not bother chatting with a reg when they actually need to talk to another post that is in charge of refunds, or;​
b) If for some anomalous inexplicable reason their IQ did go up to 200, they still would not go to see the reg. Because a person with a super-genius IQ of 200 would be smart enough to know that Scientology is a ludicrous and obscenely avaricious hoax.​

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programmer_guy

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My 2 cents opinion:

Learning how to answer is not the same as increased IQ.

This is one big reason why the contents of the test needs to be different each time one does an IQ test.

And the IQ test should be more about pattern recognition/prediction and not vocabulary.
Each IQ test should be different in content than the one before.

The brain is a biological system of cell connections that can be described as a Tensor for data processing.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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My 2 cents opinion:

Learning how to answer is not the same as increased IQ.

This is one big reason why the contents of the test needs to be different each time one does an IQ test.

And the IQ test should be more about pattern recognition/prediction and not vocabulary.
Each IQ test should be different in content than the one before.

The brain is a biological system of cell connections that can be described as a Tensor for data processing.
Nice post! Nice reasoning! Nice try!

However, you are using sadly antiquated earth logic on an intergalactic, multi-dimensional equation that encompasses the MEST universe, the THETA universe and the time track's INFINITE backwards/forwards vectors of influence on spiritual entities (thetans) that have no location or mass.

If you can somehow manage to buy even 50 hours of auditing, your IQ will soar and then you will see that you can't use homo-sapiens & psych distortions of reality.

Stick with Ron and we'll all win. Even if you don't understand or agree to it now, up the line when you are exterior in deep space playing OT games, it will all become clear. You'll thank me then. Just trust me on this one, you won't regret it!

I'll see you down the line, or up the line--or whatever, or some junk.

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freethinker

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FANTASTICALLY F/Ning FACT
(aka :Why you should ignore real nuclear physicists
and get your tech from Dr. Hubbard instead)

Einstein's IQ was estimated to be an embarrassing 160, while Dr. Hubbard's IQ has scientifically been confirmed to be an astonishing 3,873!

This miraculous IQ score is due to the fact that Ron received 3,801 hours of auditing--with the attendant increase of one IQ point per hour of processing, as predicted in the highly acclaimed scientific book Dianetics.

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That means his IQ was really -3,801 as he was reverse Dianeticized by accepting his own mock up to be used against himself. This resulted in the famous Blue Bird incident on the track with Vistaril Implants as confirmed by the whole track pathologist.
 

freethinker

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"Now the little trick I want you to pull on your friends is a simple one, very simple one. Any time you see somebody bunged up, you know, with a blister or warts or something of the sort—just put your finger on it and say “Look at my finger, Look at my finger”, each time he does, “Look at my finger”--even though it’s on the back of his neck, you see? “Look at my finger, look at my finger,” just keep that up for a while and if it’s something real bad like, uh, oh I don’t know, cancer— something like that, keep doing it, keep doing it, every day for 15 or 20 minutes a day. It’ll go away and you will become a miracle healer." (L. Ron Hubbard taped lecture)


I temporarily misplaced the link to the original Hubbard audiotaped lecture. If anyone happens to know the name/date of that lecture, feel free to post it. The quotation, however, is verbatim.

COMMENT ON MIRACLE CURES: This is pure cult thinking. But a Scientologist listening to that taped lecture has total certainty that they now know the cure for cancer. How can that possibly be?

REASON: Because an infallible "war hero" and "scientist" and "nuclear physicist" and "doctor" (Dr. Hubbard) said it. And it's all so easy, what's not to like about curing cancer?

SCIENO-THINK: "Wow, just look at how many years a wog has to study cancer before they get their certification! Like LRH says, "Complexity is equal to degree of non-confront". It takes a wog 9 years to become an oncologist who can treat cancer but it only took me 3 minutes of listening to part of an LRH lecture while I was on the treadmill working out this morning! Now I can easily cure cancer, why are wogs making such a big deal out of something so simple?!"

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I think the lecture was called Touch Assists.
 
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Per Dianetics The Modern Science of Mental Health, a person's IQ goes up one point for ever hour of processing they receive.

Let's run the math and see how it works. An average homo sapiens with an average IQ of 100 walks into an org. They want to attain "TOTAL FREEDOM" so they buy their first package of 8 intensives =100 hours of auditing.

At the end of the 100 hours they will need to go visit the reg to buy many hundreds of hours more----but first they are sent to do a new IQ test, to confirm that their IQ is now 200.

So what happens next:

1. Their new IQ score is not 200. Not even close. Never happened even once to anyone in Scientology.

2. If their IQ score changed, it more likely dropped lower, due to the foolishly delusional commands their are forced to follow in session; like remembering a "Gorilla Goal Implant" from 213 quadrillion years ago that never happened.

3. But, let's pretend their IQ did go up by 100 points? They would automatically pay for more auditing at the reg, right?

ANSWER: No. Because the odds of anyone having an IQ of 200 are 1 in 7,252,401,045. That's one person in seven billion, two-hundred and fifty two million! The earth's population is 7.7 billion.​

4. So what would happen then when the person went to the reg?

ANSWER: The person would not go to the reg.

Because. . .

a) Their IQ would not have gone up 100 points, so they would know that Hubbard lied to them to get their money--and thus they would not bother chatting with a reg when they actually need to talk to another post that is in charge of refunds, or;​
b) If for some anomalous inexplicable reason their IQ did go up to 200, they still would not go to see the reg. Because a person with a super-genius IQ of 200 would be smart enough to know that Scientology is a ludicrous and obscenely avaricious hoax.​

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That was beautiful !! Spot on brother! Spot on! :giggle:
 

HelluvaHoax!

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Nominated for one of the stupidest moments in Scientology. . .

The book "Dianetics The Modern Science of Mental Health" (1950) and other fundmental Church of Scientology scripture boldly claims that as a person ascends each level of their "Bridge to Total Freedom", they become more ethically pure, perfect & "Ideal".

The book "Science of Survival" dedicated an entire chapter to a Scientologist's "ETHICS LEVEL", emphasizing the necessity and effectiveness of auditing in erasing any unethical behavior and/or character traits.

Notwithstanding all of the above, the following is what actually happens in Scientology:

THE HIGHER A SCIENTOLOGIST GOES ON THE "BRIDGE" THE MORE UNETHICAL
THEY ARE ASSUMED TO BE. AND THE MORE "STATES" THEY ACHIEVE (CLEAR, OT, ET AL)
THE MORE THEY ARE INVESTIGATED AND ACCUSED OF "CRIMES" AND CHARGED LAVISH
AMOUNTS OF MONEY TO BE INTERROGATED ON A LIE DETECTOR.​

Scientology management has in fact ordered every Scientologist on the level of OT VII to "report" to headquarters (Flag Land Base, Clearwater, Fla) every six months to be "security checked" on a meter until all their unethical behavior is confessed. They not only have to pay tens of thousands of dollars twice a year, they also have to
"make up the damage" for their unethical behavior the previous 6 months by an "amends project" that often includes even additional and greater "donations" of money to buy multi-thousand dollar "BASICS BOOKS PACKAGES"--the very same books that proudly boast how auditing makes a perfectly ethical being.

Scientologists do not utter a word about this lavishly expensive and outrageously contradictory scam, mainly because it is also a "crime" to think or say anything critical of the cult mananagement that claims they "are the most ethical people in the world".


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HelluvaHoax!

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From SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, the chapter on "Ethical Level" we see HYPERBOLIC CLAIMS that Hubbard makes about the extraordinarily "ethical" level of a being who has received Scientology auditing and gone Clear or above.

ETHICS LEVEL / HANDLING OF TRUTH
(also see: "The Hubbard Chart of Human Evaluation" included with the book)
Tone 4.0: Bases ethics on reason. Very high ethics level. High concept of truth.​
Tone 3.5: Heeds ethics of group but refines them higher as reason demands.Truthful.Courage displayed on reasonable risks.​
Tone 3.0: Follows ethics in which trained, as honestly as possible. Moral.Cautious of asserting truths. Social lies.​
Tone 2.5: Treats ethics insincerely but not particularly honest or dishonest.Insincere. Careless of facts.​
Tone 2.0: Chronically and bluntly dishonest when occasion arises. At this level and below: authoritarianism, criminals.Truth twisted to suit antagonism.​
Tone 1.5: Immoral. Actively dishonest. Destructive of any and all ethics.Blatant and destructive lying.​
Tone 1.1: Negative ethics. Deviously dishonest. Perverts honesty without reason. Ingenious and vicious perversions of truth. Covers lying artfully.​
Tone 0.5: (Ethics) Non-existent. Not thinking. Obeying anyone.Details facts with no concept of their reality.​

CONCLUSION: When Hubbard/Miscavige is setting up a mark to PAY for Scientology, they assure credulous Scientologists that the auditing will make them supremely "ethical" so they "natively" will make ethical/truthful decisions and be free of the cruel "overt-motivator" slavery of having a bank. However, when the Scientologist attains the highest possible levels (Clear, OT III, OT VII) they are subjected to increasingly and fiercely intrusive interrogations to literally force them to confess their evil acts. Looking at the Chart of Human Evaluation, it is abundantly evident that "Tone 4" is a marketing gimmick to covertly coerce "donations" by means of dreamy "ideal", while cult management actually treats Scientologists like they are at Tone 0.5 (no ethics).

In this sense, Scientology's gurus are exposed as the vicious "1.1" sociopaths that they are warning Scientologists about. Their description is perfect (about themselves): "Negative ethics. Deviously dishonest. Perverts honesty without reason. Ingenious and vicious perversions of truth. Covers lying artfully."


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HelluvaHoax!

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"10 million" Scientologists (they say).

98% of them blew (the "9.8 million" ex-Scientologists say).

What would the #1 answer be if we standardly surveyed all those no-case-gains, as to:

REGARDING YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH SCIENTOLOGY
WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BIGGEST TAKEAWAY?


#1 RESPONSE:
"The biggest takeaway was my money. They took it away."


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The biggest takeaway I left Scientology with was I now know with confidence, Scientology does not work. It’s an intentional complicated system to enslave and trap and it has been disguised as a religion. Oh, and that Scientology / L Ron Hubbard and now David Miscavige use mind control, propaganda, deceit, lies, manipulation, extortion, black mail, bribery and mind fuckery aka gas lighting to lure unsuspecting trusting people into all facets of Scientology.
 
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HelluvaHoax!

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HH, why don't you go and do some stand-ups about Scientology?
I would do stand-up about Scientology, except the number of people who would understand WTF the jokes meant is too small. Audience members would be blowing from the "MU's" during my set.

Ergo, I don't do stand-up, I do sit-down--at a keyboard. [cymbal crash]
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Dotey OT

Re-Membered
Hey, who took down the trees? And there would be homeless camped out here, were it not for the lack of a yellow invoice.

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Hey, wait a minute. I just think I have a plan to increase the BIS at Big Blue Baby!!!! A new course:

"Creating a Successful Homeless Home"

Use LRH principles to achieve that ideal urban campsite. Adventure with Ron as he gives you the basic tools of how to achieve the state of Homeless Novis!!
 

Type4_PTS

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Hey, who took down the trees? And there would be homeless camped out here, were it not for the lack of a yellow invoice.

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Scientology had a big flap some years ago when they removed trees:



 
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