Joy Villa details her defection from Scientology for the first time Tony Ortega May 14, 2025

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It became pretty obvious a few months ago that Joy Villa had left Scientology and had doubled-down on her involvement as a Christian.

We had heard that she was preparing to make a statement about leaving the church, and today she is doing so in a live video.

The first thing we took note of as she began was that she pronounces her last name “Vee-lah,” not “Vee-yah” or “Vill-lah.”

She asks her viewers to pre-order her forthcoming book, “From Scientology to Christ: An escape they never wanted me to make.”

She says that she started in Scientology in 2011, and today she calls it a “dangerous, abusive cult.”

She describes how much of a mess her life was at that point. She was 23, had abused drink and drugs, and was at a low point. But at that point she got a gig in a modeling show at the Hollywood Celebrity Centre.

As an aside, she says, “Do not attack Scientologists...David Miscavige is evil, L. Ron Hubbard was evil. But the people working in Scientology were as lost as I was.”

Joy claims that she’s the first celebrity to leave Scientology in ten years, since Leah Remini, and she shows a copy of Leah’s book.

Well, one can argue whether Joy Villa, who has some notoriety as a conservative commentator, qualifies as a “celebrity,” but we will also point out that Laura Prepon and Beck and Jason Lee have all publicly left Scientology in the last ten years.

After the modeling show, Joy says she did the personality test. It told her what she wanted to hear, that she was lost and could take a course for it.

“It is not a religion, it is a cult built on satanic principles,” she says.

She signed up for $50 for the course, Overcoming Ups and Downs. “They lovebombed me. The course taught me I was attached to certain people who were doing me harm. I thought it was harmless. I hadn't seen South Park. I was very naive, and they knew that.”

She says she became a staff member, then signed a billion-year contract with the Sea Org. She became an auditor, and went Clear.

She urges her viewers to watch Leah Remini’s show. “It’s so good.”

A year into it, she met her ex-husband, a wealthy and rich Scientologist.

(She’s referring to Thorsten von Overgaard, a photographer.)

She’s now going into L. Ron Hubbard’s involvement in the occult in the years before he published Dianetics.

“In Scientology I was never allowed to Google ‘Scientology’ or I would pay thousands of dollars.”

She says she’s not proud of it, but she put $1.5 million into Scientology (with her ex-husband), recruited hundreds of people into it, and made money from those recruits on commissions.

She says Scientologists in the MAGA community, like Grant Cardone, tell people they are Christian but they aren’t.

She met Cruise and Travolta. But she was still not good enough for them, because she was still a Christian. Who are you praying to? You’re mixing practices, she was told.

She did OT Preps. Operating Thetan, a supposedly godlike state that costs at least $300,000.

She says she was in massive debt, in the UK, doing Scientology 12 hours a day, 6 days a week. All the glamour fell away.



[We believe this is a photo from the period she is describing.]
She agrees that the Scientology buildings around the world are empty.

While she was doing pro-life work politically, Scientology was forcing young women to have abortions.

“I was indoctrinated. They programmed me for years.” She was depressed.

Moved to Florida (after a short time in Los Angeles) and met her current husband Jeremy.

Rededicated herself to Christianity and rebuked Scientology.

“The Lord told me to leave Scientology while I was in Florida.”

This was in 2022 or 2023. More than two years ago. But she didn’t say anything at the time. (Later she says the “journey began” last summer — 2024 — and in February of this year realized she could never go back.)

She promotes her forthcoming book again.

It’s really good to see that she’s out of Scientology, and we are thankful that she’s talking about it publicly.

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Couple of things.

$50 for the Comm course? I think I paid that around 77 as well. That surprising if the price hasn't increased since then. Yes, the reason is obvious. Only fifty bucks was a fair amount back then, so in essence, the course has become way cheaper.

23 is around the typical age for people being recruited. Yeah I know all ages are represented, but being young and fairly clueless makes the recruiters job easier.

It's good that she has gotten herself out and is now warning people about the cult. Just reading that article gives me the sense that she is using the whole thing as an exercise in self promotion and glorification , rather than anything of particular substance. Something seems off about it.

Anyone else see it the same way?
 
I am always happy to learn of people who depart and wake up.
The cult used her for promo so this bites them more so.
It sounds like she is very *educated" and therefore knows there is revenge from the cult
and she stood her ground and spoke out.
Good Girl Joy Villa.
Congratulations!
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It's good that she has gotten herself out and is now warning people about the cult. Just reading that article gives me the sense that she is using the whole thing as an exercise in self promotion and glorification , rather than anything of particular substance. Something seems off about it.

Anyone else see it the same way?



I watched 20 minutes of her video, and I get the strong impression she's legitimate and really out.

For sure, she IS using it for self-promotion as well, but she just wrote a book which is on pre-order, and has 59,000 subscribers just on YouTube, so I don't consider that unusual.

EDIT: I just watched an additional 11 minutes. I am 99.9999% certain Joy is for real. She is not holding anything back. :no:

She said she had recruited over 100 people into Scientology. I bet 100 or more will leave Scientology because Joy publicly left. And many thousands more will be inoculated, especially Christians.
 
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I watched 20 minutes of her video,
For sure, she IS using it for self-promotion as well, but ...
She said she had recruited over 100 people into Scientology. I bet 100 or more will leave Scientology because Joy publicly left. And many thousands more will be inoculated, especially Christians.
It's all about promoting herself, first as "a celebrity in Scientology" (Show of hands, how many ever heard of her outside of the context of Scientology here? Yeah, that's what I thought.) and then as "a prominent ex-Scientologist" (again, who ever...), trying to associate herself with an actual known celebrity, Leah Remini, and get similar recognition without ever having been anywhere near Leah's stature. I don't believe she actually got anywhere near 100 people into Scientology, that's more of her PR, and as to 59,000 subscribers, I have no doubt that's a manufactured count like all those spammers in my emails offering to get me 10's of thousands of followers for a price.
Scientology grossly exaggerated her popularity to promote Scientology, and she's used her involvement and defection from Scientology to promote herself. I doubt that either party has or will have much to show for it.
 
It's all about promoting herself, first as "a celebrity in Scientology" (Show of hands, how many ever heard of her outside of the context of Scientology here? Yeah, that's what I thought.) and then as "a prominent ex-Scientologist" (again, who ever...), trying to associate herself with an actual known celebrity, Leah Remini, and get similar recognition without ever having been anywhere near Leah's stature. I don't believe she actually got anywhere near 100 people into Scientology, that's more of her PR, and as to 59,000 subscribers, I have no doubt that's a manufactured count like all those spammers in my emails offering to get me 10's of thousands of followers for a price.
Scientology grossly exaggerated her popularity to promote Scientology, and she's used her involvement and defection from Scientology to promote herself. I doubt that either party has or will have much to show for it.


While what you write about her being a "a celebrity in Scientology" is true, some people like her are treated like a celebrity within the Co$.
There were always people who were on lines at Celebrity Centers that very few people outside of Scientology ever heard of. Even most Scientologists have never heard of them. Yet, Co$ characterized them as "celebrities".

You might be right as well about her 59,000 subscribers and/or the 100+ people she got in. I don't know, and we don't really have an easy way to verify it one way or the other. She was politically active for short periods and probably did pick up followers during those periods. I pasted a video below where she appeared on Fox Business, which got 572,000 views.

The most important thing, though IMO, is what you said about "Scientology grossly exaggerated her popularity to promote Scientology..."
Because CoS did that and she appeared at multiple events, including at least one with Tom Cruise, I would bet that she is very well known within the remaining CoS membership. And some of those will watch her videos now.

I believe that the way she is publicly speaking out now and after her book is published, she will have a significant negative impact on the CoS.
But time will tell.


 
I pasted a video below where she appeared on Fox Business, which got 572,000 views.
Bear in mind, those "572,000 views of her You Tube video" is clearly a manufactured number, with the actual number of times someone actually viewed the video about 571,700 less than that number. Inside the C of S, where "entheta is verboten", I don't see her video getting much attention, or, for that matter, being anywhere near as interesting or beefy as anything published by any ex who published a book or went online after far deeper and longer involvement.
 
I've not watched any of this video (from Natalie Webster) and probably won't, but leaving it here for anyone interested.


Aaron Smith-Levin and I Break Down Joy Villa’s Scientology Escape & Clearwater Council Chaos💥

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Joy Villa has officially LEFT Scientology — and she’s not being quiet about it. In today’s video, Aaron Smith-Levin and I dive into her explosive revelations about life inside the Sea Org, why she calls Scientology “torture,” and how her journey from self-described “hot mess” to Christian author is shaking up the cult she once promoted. Her new book From Scientology to Christ: The Escape They Never Wanted Me to Make is already turning heads, and we’re breaking it all down.
 
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Bear in mind, those "572,000 views of her You Tube video" is clearly a manufactured number, with the actual number of times someone actually viewed the video about 571,700 less than that number. Inside the C of S, where "entheta is verboten", I don't see her video getting much attention, or, for that matter, being anywhere near as interesting or beefy as anything published by any ex who published a book or went online after far deeper and longer involvement.
And bear in mind also that I am speaking as something of a celebrity myself. My name is quite well known within the Gelfand household. :-)
 
Bear in mind, those "572,000 views of her You Tube video" is clearly a manufactured number, with the actual number of times someone actually viewed the video about 571,700 less than that number. Inside the C of S, where "entheta is verboten", I don't see her video getting much attention, or, for that matter, being anywhere near as interesting or beefy as anything published by any ex who published a book or went online after far deeper and longer involvement.


That video wasn't her video - it was from Fox Business News (who has over 3 million subscribers).

There were other videos as well where she was on some mainstream channels, and for a period, she had the attention of some conservative podcasters and other Republicans. There's a thread here on REDUX or the original ESMB about it. She lost her credibility among many of those types at some point.


Here's another very short video on the main channel of Fox News (over 13 million subscribers). She got 341,000 views here:

Watch Joy Villa's verbal battle with media at the White House


Here's a video on the channel of The Recording Academy when she appeared in a Trump dress at the Grammy Awards. 300,000 views.

Joy Villa in Trump Dress | Red Carpet | 59th GRAMMYs

 
And bear in mind also that I am speaking as something of a celebrity myself. My name is quite well known within the Gelfand household. :)


I was around CC INT for some months and saw some people treated as celebrities who probably not many people outside of their immediate family had ever heard of before.
 
I was around CC INT for some months and saw some people treated as celebrities who probably no one outside of their immediate family had ever heard of before.
I was around CC INT for some months and saw some people treated as celebrities who probably no one outside of their immediate family had ever heard of before.
Ah, yes, but it was only through Scientology that they became known within their immediate families by having learned to apply the nonexistence formula. 🙂
 
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I watched 20 minutes of her video, and I get the strong impression she's legitimate and really out.

For sure, she IS using it for self-promotion as well, but she just wrote a book which is on pre-order, and has 59,000 subscribers just on YouTube, so I don't consider that unusual.

EDIT: I just watched an additional 11 minutes. I am 99.9999% certain Joy is for real. She is not holding anything back. :no:

She said she had recruited over 100 people into Scientology. I bet 100 or more will leave Scientology because Joy publicly left. And many thousands more will be inoculated, especially Christians.
I get that she's genuinely out. I'm just getting the feeling that everything else is mostly about show and self promotion.

Of course I could be absolutely wrong about that as well I'll wait to see what else transpires.
 
I get that she's genuinely out. I'm just getting the feeling that everything else is mostly about show and self promotion.

Of course I could be absolutely wrong about that as well I'll wait to see what else transpires.

You're probably getting that feeling because it's true. :D

She's a content creator and trying to build a brand. And yeah, she's surely about self-promotion.

I watched about 35 minutes of an almost 3-hour video, and I get the feeling that what she's saying, at least about her own life, is genuine.
I've gone through some social media training in the past several weeks, including from Brendan Kane, who is one of the best. There are a number of ways to build a following on social media, and her approach she's taking in this video is one of them.
 
Good for her. When I saw the photo of her doing stress tests I thought something was up, glad to hear she woke up.

I haven't watched her video and I think it's a little silly to try to position herself as a celeb like Remini, but hey I can't blame her for it. She's obviously trying to use this to build her image (or re-build it) and I don't have a problem with it.

At the end of the day she's out and I'm sure her leaving will help get the message out about Scientology, and at the end of the day that's all that I really care about.
 
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