Aaron Smith Levin threatens the Ex Scientology Community

[lotus]

I am certain Aaron has good parts and can do good. The problem is behavior related.

He acknowledged this fact but it belongs to him to get help, or not. Often people like him do not seek help because they hold a profound conviction that other deserves their bad treatment; when vulnerable people are their target, they must be kept on watch.

I wish him to seek help and grow a secure grown man out of his own strugglings and to continue his job on exposing scientology without using people but learning mutual positive collaboration.

I believe we all have fails, must learn from our mistakes and change our behavior in some cases. Mine is a constant work in progress!

 

[Pooks]

OP here. Interesting where this thread took us.

It is not yet known why Jenna took her videos down. It looked like they were about to go viral. It should be noted that she took down the videos half an hour after Mike Rinder's death announcement and some feel she did this with respect to Mike so she was not the center of attention.

Edit: It looks like this is the reason. Jenna's videos are back up.

Others think that Aaron contacted her and cried and begged her to take them down and she did it because she's still under his coercive control.

Either way, in the next few weeks, it will be interesting to see how it all works out.

Aaron has finally been exposed for the scumbag predator that he is.

For the past 14 months, after he got kicked off the Aftermath Board for his problematic behavior, he has done nothing but try to destroy Mike Rinder, the Headleys, Tony Oretaga, Chris Shelton, and anyone else who called him out for all the lies, and all the
trouble he was creating in the community.

He bare-faced lied about having evidence that Mike Rinder knowingly and willingly covered up sexual abuse in Scn, but he never provided any evidence at all, in an attempt to destroy Mike Rinder knowing full well Mike was suffering from terminal cancer. He claimed the proof was in the infamous OSA files that Mike Rinder had on a thumb drive, but he's a liar. Note: Aaron stole the osa files thumb nail drive from Leah.

I have those files. No such thing exists. Aaron made up all these lies in an attempt to destroy Mike Rinder and the Aftermath. It was just fucking evil.

Many people in the anti scn community are horrified that they once supported this guy.


He's a charmer, a predator, a grifter. Beware.

 

[I M Dex]

OP here. Interesting where this thread took us.

It is not yet known why Jenna took her videos down. It looked like they were about to go viral. It should be noted that she took down the videos half an hour after Mike Rinder's death announcement and some feel she did this with respect to Mike so she was not the center of attention.

Others think that Aaron contacted her and cried and begged her to take them down and she did it because she's still under his coercive control.

Either way, in the next few weeks, it will be interesting to see how it all works out.

Aaron has finally been exposed for the scumbag predator that he is.

For the past 14 months, after he got kicked off the Aftermath Board for his problematic behavior, he has done nothing but try to destroy Mike Rinder, the Headleys, Tony Oretaga, Chris Shelton, and anyone else who called him out for all the lies, and all the
trouble he was creating in the community.

He bare-faced lied about having evidence that Mike Rinder knowingly and willingly covered up sexual abuse in Scn, but he never provided any evidence at all, in an attempt to destroy Mike Rinder knowing full well Mike was suffering from terminal cancer. He claimed the proof was in the infamous OSA files that Mike Rinder had on a thumb drive, but he's a liar. Note: Aaron stole the osa files thumb nail drive from Leah.

I have those files. No such thing exists. Aaron made up all these lies in an attempt to destroy Mike Rinder and the Aftermath. It was just fucking evil.

Many people in the anti scn community are horrified that they once supported this guy.


He's a charmer, a predator, a grifter. Beware.

But other than that, he's a great guy.

 

[TheSneakster]

The problem is behavior related.

No. The problem is Aaron's complete and utter spiritual and moral depravity, which underlies his behavior which is only a symptom of what lies beneath it.

 

[I M Dex]

"The problem is behavior related"- That does sound like some kind of superficial equivocating. You could say that about virtually anything bad that someone does. "The arsonist's problem is behavior related"; as opposed to what? His taste in show tunes? "Everybody in federal prison was found to have a behavior-related problem". "Other than the things he does, he's a delight"...

 

[Esau]

I am certain Aaron has good parts and can do good.

"If you look deep enough, you can find in anybody something good."

 

[Pooks]

 

[I M Dex]

"If you look deep enough, you can find in anybody something good."

Even if you have to use an electron microscope.

 

[Type4_PTS]

I'm glad Jenna's videos are back online.

 

[The_Fixer]

No. The problem is Aaron's complete and utter spiritual and moral depravity, which underlies his behavior which is only a symptom of what lies beneath it.

I believe the biggest problem is that he was brought up as a 2nd generation Scientologist.

That in itself will ensure a degree of social/behavioural issues given the lack of proper family guidance these guys get in there.

We've had a few of these guys come into this and the previous forum from this background that started off okay and then descend into poor behaviour and attitudes causing chaos all along the way. People who come from abusive and neglected parenting and cults never learn normal behaviour until the damage has been done. Whilst a lot can be relearned afterwards, there is usually a residual effect that never really leaves them. It is extraordinary the lengths adults will go to for their belief systems and cause so much harm to their children at the same time. All being somewhat oblivious to what they are doing to them. And the cult of Scientology is a narcissistic sociopath's training school.

It doesn't excuse the bad behaviour, it just offers some explanation as to why they behave the way they do. Of course, there are always the lines that no one should be crossing and they need to be called out on it and be shown the error of their ways.

I'm not particularly a fan of Aaron's channel, but you know, I'm happy I never had to grow up in his shoes.

 

[Lee #28]

^^^^^^^

I was not aware that Aron was second gen.....

Dang that is rough....

Can't imagine deciding to get out....and not having anything "normal" to fall back on.

On the other hand......perhaps he is just a Lothario.....or perhaps fancies himself a cocksman....?

 

[The_Fixer]

^^^^^^^

I was not aware that Aron was second gen.....

Dang that is rough....

Can't imagine deciding to get out....and not having anything "normal" to fall back on.

On the other hand......perhaps he is just a Lothario.....or perhaps fancies himself a cocksman....?

Some people are victims of their circumstances and some people are, well, just some people...

 

[Lee #28]

Complicated .....with the YouTube channel...... Who was going to "rise to the top..." SPTV and the Foundation....

I can't help but think that hooking up with Jenna Miscavige......was perhaps due to her being a 24Kt Gold Ex.....and giving SPTV breadth and depth..... But of course... they had a common cause...

(besides being a beautiful woman)

 

[I M Dex]

Complicated .....with the YouTube channel...... Who was going to "rise to the top..."

I can't help but think that hooking up with Jenna Miscavige......was perhaps due to her being a 24Kt Gold Ex.....and giving SPTV breadth and depth..... Sure they had a common cause...

(besides being a beautiful woman)

Yes, I had the feeling that being Miscavige's niece as well as an being attractive woman, in Aaron's perspective, ever focused on his status, she was a trophy. If she meant more to him, you'd think he's have treated her better.

 

[lotus]

"If you look deep enough, you can find in anybody something good."

My reservation comes from the fact that I do not know him personnaly to judge him and issue a final " death sentence ".

I believe the biggest problem is that he was brought up as a 2nd generation Scientologist.

That in itself will ensure a degree of social/behavioural issues given the lack of proper family guidance these guys get in there.

We've had a few of these guys come into this and the previous forum from this background that started off okay and then descend into poor behaviour and attitudes causing chaos all along the way. People who come from abusive and neglected parenting and cults never learn normal behaviour until the damage has been done. Whilst a lot can be relearned afterwards, there is usually a residual effect that never really leaves them. It is extraordinary the lengths adults will go to for their belief systems and cause so much harm to their children at the same time. All being somewhat oblivious to what they are doing to them. And the cult of Scientology is a narcissistic sociopath's training school.

It doesn't excuse the bad behaviour, it just offers some explanation as to why they behave the way they do. Of course, there are always the lines that no one should be crossing and they need to be called out on it and be shown the error of their ways.

I'm not particularly a fan of Aaron's channel, but you know, I'm happy I never had to grow up in his shoes.

Thank you.
Exactly what I would have like to put in words.

Behavior isssues can be improved when the person acknowledges the issues (which he did in a small part) and when need of help is acknowledged ( not there yet)

Many drug addicts (cocain etc), alcoholics AND brainwashed indoctrinated ex-scientologists have been an A-Aron, and some even worse as they spent decades in the destroying people OSA business, torture them in rehabilitation SCN slave camps , used an emeter to sec check them and mentally tortured them..none to mention the constant non stop yelling at juniors, including women...

And, many of them rehabilitated themselve, changed their behavior and proved they were not ONLY bad....

The women who he abused said he was not ONLY bad and while they exposed him, wished and said he can do better in the futur.

Actually, by now, every women on planet earth knows he is an abusive destructive patholigical liar and manipulator, should stay away and/or wear 3 condoms layers.

This is not to justify his behavior that I find TOXIC, manipulative and abusive and I do not like him at all! But every human being , when exposed , should be allow to change and do better. Like we have had ex slave camp enforcers and destroyers living a good 2nd life. Others, remained the arsehole they were.

 

[Type4_PTS]

This is not to justify his behavior that I find TOXIC, manipulative and abusive and I do not like him at all! But every human being , when exposed , should be allow to change and do better. Like we have had ex slave camp enforcers and destroyers doing a very good 2nd life. Some others remained arsehole.

Aaron did some positive things in his 1000+ videos on YouTube and within the Aftermath Foundation before he was tossed out. Some of his videos were excellent, breaking some news, and exposing the cult. And he was entertaining doing so. I lost respect for him though for the way he handled things after he got tossed out of Aftermath Foundation.

Hopefully, the comments he received in response to his faux apology YouTube video act as a severe reality adjustment wake-up call, prompting him to make changes in how he treats other people.

 

[lotus]

Totally agree!

When they all founded the Aftermath foundation, which was initially a project of Aaron ( if memory serves), they should have known him , after all these years.. no ????

 

[Type4_PTS]

Totally agree!

When they all founded the Aftermath foundation, which was initially a project of Aaron ( if memory serves), they should have known him , after all these years.. no ????

I don't think they knew him like they came to know him much later.

 

[I M Dex]

Aaron did some positive things in his 1000+ videos on YouTube and within the Aftermath Foundation before he was tossed out. Some of his videos were excellent, breaking some news, and exposing the cult. And he was entertaining doing so. I lost respect for him though for the way he handled things after he got tossed out of Aftermath Foundation.

Never mind that, how about the things he did that precipitated his getting kicked out for the sake of maintaining the credibility of the Foundation!

 

[Type4_PTS]

Never mind that, how about the things he did that precipitated his getting kicked out for the sake of maintaining the credibility of the Foundation!

Yeah, he deserved to get tossed out!