Scientologie 1934

[Chess]

I posted this on Mike's site couple of weeks ago and was surprised not many people seem to appreciate the crime of plagiarism. Considering the site referenced below only has 153 views it seems to indicate it's of no major importance or significance. I admit I didn't take that much notice of it when I was first introduced to it ages ago. Lazy of mind I suppose but in the world of publishing, no greater crime exists.
For whatever it's worth to you, I feel it's a good idea to at least have it as reference in your library if you don't already. Hubbard was a scoundrel and plagiarist thief. He gave no credit to where he got Scientology or its format from, but sure called it his "own".

Upon reflection, it wouldn’t be right if I didn’t reference the source of what I posted above, even though this information has been around for decades, to some it is new or only slightly appreciated. Only 600 copies of original “Scientologie” were ever published, so it’s a rare book but facsimiles exist. It is a festering thorn in the butt of the Church of Scientology and reflects terribly but accurately on Hubbard’s lack of or complete disregard of professional integrity. It should be known & be in every reference library of people with an interest in Scientology, its origins and controversies.

Scientologie 1934 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Here’s a section from the preface.

“The Council for Spiritual Integrity reprinted and released a facsimile edition of both, the German original and the English translation. It was promoted in “Free Spirit”.

Introduction to the Facsimile Edition

The reproductive quality of this facsimile copy of this book leaves much to be desired. The editors apologize for this, and hope the reader will understand that this is, to our knowledge, the only currently available rendition of this very rare book and its translation. Even so, this copy is a valuable document and brings to light some important issues regarding the originality of subsequent works by L. Ron Hubbard. Certainly, the creation of the very name “Scientology” is now seen in a new light. (“Scientologie”” is the German rendering of that word, and in fact in Europe the present day institution is promoted as “Scientologie.”) The motto, “science of knowing how to know” is obviously extracted from the very subtitle of Nordenholz’s book.

There are powerful interests that are much embarrassed by the existence of the book which you now hold in your hands. Every conceivable effort has been made to suppress it. We would advise you to treat this copy accordingly. Some individuals will be enraged by its very presence and feel justified in an effort to destroy it; some will be devastated by the shaking of their stable data. But there are those who will find it an interesting addition to this life’s experience, and though adjusting their perspective, will not let it invalidate the worth of what they have already learned at great cost.

THE COUNCIL FOR SPIRITUAL INTEGRITY”

(Some truths are truly inconvenient and horrifying for card carrying, copyright and trade mark believers in the integrity of the Church of Scientology's founder).

 

[Reyne Mayer]

as i posted in response over in The Bunker, an earlier, similar is the 'Philosophy and Science of the Universe at large in the Scientology of Universology', from Andrews book of 1871 -- the period of the New thought movement (and Theosophy) that Hubbard borrowed a lot from, though probably mostly second- and third-hand.

while i suspect there's a good chance LRH -- or someone around him, as was often the case -- had run across one or both of the earlier uses, it might even only have come up as a name for the new 'religion' unconsciously. i think it's hard to get excited about because there's not a clear-cut case of plagiarism to be made, though i still think it points unflatteringly to how much he was recycling concepts and approaches from the early 20th and late 19th centuries, that by mid-century had been mostly forgotten and so were accepted as new by a younger generation. and it's also possible that Hubbard just created a relatively obvious compound word, that others had at least twice before.

 

[Esau]

Further reading (written by Jon Atack decades ago):

Jon Atack - Possible origins for Dianetics and Scientology

Possible origins for Dianetics and Scientology

www.spaink.net

 

[Hatshepsut]

Saw this some decades ago by Dr Nordenholz. Like you, I'm surprised it gets pushed out of existence. But that is the way with things which take away from an agreed upon narrative that has consensus. Gaslighting protects then existing image of the god.

The 'ideas' of Scientology may have been digested by Ron and then come out of his automatic writing. These trance-state 'new thought' movements weren't really NEW at all. It's highly probably the plagiarism didn't bother Ron at all. In the early days he'd willingly confessed he borrowed from all philosophies.

We have to admit there aren't just similarities to Scientologie, they are copies.

 

[Hatshepsut]

I opened the link and started to read the internet archive, Scientologie 1934.

It's not the Nordenholz creation I originally read, but the commentary written by those familiar with LRH. It is excellent and well worth reading. In a way, It's almost soothing to the soul to realize you were actually connected to something originating from sanity and good will.

On top left there are 3 dots inside a circle. Click it and choose download to PDF format, to get it expanded to viewable size.

Scientologie 1934 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Thank you Chess,
new member.

 

[Chess]

as i posted in response over in The Bunker, an earlier, similar is the 'Philosophy and Science of the Universe at large in the Scientology of Universology', from Andrews book of 1871 -- the period of the New thought movement (and Theosophy) that Hubbard borrowed a lot from, though probably mostly second- and third-hand.

while i suspect there's a good chance LRH -- or someone around him, as was often the case -- had run across one or both of the earlier uses, it might even only have come up as a name for the new 'religion' unconsciously. i think it's hard to get excited about because there's not a clear-cut case of plagiarism to be made, though i still think it points unflatteringly to how much he was recycling concepts and approaches from the early 20th and late 19th centuries, that by mid-century had been mostly forgotten and so were accepted as new by a younger generation. and it's also possible that Hubbard just created a relatively obvious compound word, that others had at least twice before.

Author: Anastasius Nordenholz
Country: Germany
Language: German, English
Subject: Philosophy of science, existentialism
Publisher: Ernst Reinhardt publishing house, Munich, Germany
Publication Date: 1934
ISBN: 3-9804724-0-X
Summary:
Nordenholz defines the term “Scientologie” (also known as “Eidologie”) as a science of knowing or knowledge.
He explores the philosophical implications of this concept.
The book discusses questions such as: “What is knowing? What is knowledge? How can we understand and justify the world through knowledge?”
Nordenholz asserts that the world is nothing but knowledge, an extraction from knowing.
He introduces the concept of axioms and systems within Scientologie, emphasizing the interplay between consciousness and the world.”

 

[Chess]

I opened the link and started to read the internet archive, Scientologie 1934.

It's not the Nordenholz creation I originally read, but the commentary written by those familiar with LRH. It is excellent and well worth reading. In a way, It's almost soothing to the soul to realize you were actually connected to something originating from sanity and good will.

On top left there are 3 dots inside a circle. Click it and choose download to PDF format, to get it expanded to viewable size.

Scientologie 1934 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Thank you Chess,
new member.

Yes, agree. The search for wisdom and knowledge ("Scientology" is only a modern descriptive term imo - but why muddy up who came up with it first?), predates well before Hubbard's time & even Christ. Even Mary Baker Eddie later on polished up Christan Science and presented it to a willing worldwide audience over 100 years ago. I too feel good about the connection when sanity and goodwill is the platform from which such endeavors are based. The misery in Hubbard's wake just makes me cold attituded about the man himself, his actions and motives. Served under some officers cold blooded too, just a life experience, like being involved Hubbard & Miscavige's organized follies. I take from them & others only what I think is useful now.

 

[Reyne Mayer]

Further reading (written by Jon Atack decades ago):

Jon Atack - Possible origins for Dianetics and Scientology

Possible origins for Dianetics and Scientology

www.spaink.net

thanks for that. this one's a doozy:

The word 'dianetics' is a variant of 'dianoetic', the earliest recorded usage is given as 1677 by the Shorter Oxford English Dictionary. A group called "Dianism" was started shortly before "Dianetics". The founder of this group was a U.S. Navy lieutenant who had studied the works of Aleister Crowley. Dianism centred upon the eighth ritual of Crowley's OTO - the "magical masturbation". Curiously, this was the ceremony performed by Hubbard with OTO leader Jack Parsons in 1946. It seems eminently possible that "dian" refers to "Diana", the Roman goddess, who in turn was seen by Crowley as the "dark goddess" - the Empress, Hathor, Artemis, Shakti, or the Babylon, or "Scarlet Woman", of the Book of Revelation. Hubbard's ceremonies with Parsons were intended to incarnate this very force. Hubbard called his first daughter by Mary Sue Hubbard, Diana. He also renamed one of the Sea Org vessels the "Diana".

 

[Barile]

just for fun, let's see who doesn't comment.

 

[Hatshepsut]

 

[Barile]

 

[Chess]

I opened the link and started to read the internet archive, Scientologie 1934.

It's not the Nordenholz creation I originally read, but the commentary written by those familiar with LRH. It is excellent and well worth reading. In a way, It's almost soothing to the soul to realize you were actually connected to something originating from sanity and good will.

On top left there are 3 dots inside a circle. Click it and choose download to PDF format, to get it expanded to viewable size.

Scientologie 1934 : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Thank you Chess,
new member.

Not that it means all that much to me at this stage. I've moved on in life, but plagiarism is what it is and the evidence if one actually follows through by inspecting 'Scientologie' is suspicious & quite damning of Hubbard. Filbert even mentions in his book a number of students walked out of Saint Hill once they became aware of it. However, proving Hubbard and the CofS wrong is in more than capable hands and obsessed minds elsewhere. What is interesting is I didn't know Dr Nordenlolz wrote a 1937 edition of 'Scientologie' as well. Supposedly it too is going to have a facsimile edition printed in due course. If it hasn't already been oppressed. This aspect of history I feel should be noted for its own sake, true, false or embellished. I was surprised not many knew or brushed it aside so easily, me too years ago, but the weight of evidence is compelling even on a casual inspection.

 

[Hatshepsut]

We have different methods of handling shock. People also habitually deny or gaslight away anything destructive to their stable datum. I wouldn't be surprised if many UFOs were on the mind's 'blocked' list.

 

[Chess]

We have different methods of handling shock. People also habitually deny or gaslight away anything destructive to their stable datum. I wouldn't be surprised if many UFOs were on the mind's 'blocked' list.

Yes, some realities or even the mere inclination of them are just impossible to register for some. Fascinating to grasp some court cases on just how twisted things can get, where intelligence takes on a whole other application with evaluating evidence, plus the Hatfields & McCoys is an extreme example, like racism.
Haha, UFOs is a synonym for denial at a governmental level alone, isn't it?

 

[Hatshepsut]

Yup. The UFO phenomena challenges the concrete solidity of things. A lot of work has gone into engineering a brain to translate molecules into realities. I bet if we were to undo the auto-coding we'd become destabilized mentally. I can't even handle vertigo when the floor moves from its normal position.

 

[Chess]

Yup. The UFO phenomena challenges the concrete solidity of things. A lot of work has gone into engineering a brain to translate molecules into realities. I bet if we were to undo the auto-coding we'd become destabilized mentally. I can't even handle vertigo when the floor moves from its normal position.

I have an interesting life experience of what you allude to. As a young 20 ish soldier I volunteered for Navy diver training, loved surfing as a kid & was good at swimming, plus the army was pretty boring to be honest. Divers are needed over water, things get dropped over the side, searching for stuff, blowing stuff up, safety considerations etc. I was trained and qualified to 100' and navy training was not only rigorous but tough & mentally demanding. However, it's the only course or military profession that you can voluntarily say you don't want to do it anymore, and they simply say thank you and let you go, no disciplinary ramifications. Depends of course when you do that though, some service conditions are emergency or life-threatening scenarios and orders are orders! You are part of team that relies on you, and it can cost you your career path if you're something like a Seal. To those people it's just an integral part of what they do.
However, it's a different reality down there, sometimes wildly so. Visibility is often zero and sometimes the only way you know which way is up is to put your hands over you face and exhale as you spin around, bubbles go up and unexpected strong currents can be a real joker in the deck. If you can't handle anxiety attacks diving is not for you - it happens sometimes, that's why the training is so rigorous, and requalifying is every 6 months. Plus, the opioid effect of nitrogen being forced into your blood stream if you stay too deep for too long - the bends if you come up to fast, you must time your depth & do decompression stops, but the body & mind can act completely differently with 2 or 3 extra atmospheres of pressure on you, and you must take your own air with you. I found it quite exciting overall, and the adrenalin is kind of addictive, but sometimes it scared the crap out of me, especially at night. Aircraft recovery was the toughest thing I ever experienced, anyplace, anytime no matter what the sea conditions, notwithstanding when it's insane to do so. The mind can be a powerful thing, but it can be overcome, 'reasoned with' or acted in partnership with - whatever you want to call it or explain it to yourself. I'm living proof in that particular underwater physical/mental aspect - it's truly an alien environment down there for humans, lovely when conditions are good though, but that's not very often for the military or police. I guess the other aspect that is all powerful with the mind is group agreement. A lot of people just can't have someone being different, or able to do things they can't or won't, it's noticeable if you're the odd one out. Same with auditors I suppose... and the challengers of being a PC too, especially with dubious technology or set opinions about their own existence. The militancy of religious dictatorship in practice, such as what the Church of Scientology (and others) does is a crime against humanity/spirituality imo. But it's being going on for so long that atheism/agnostics can do the same thing if enforced.

 

[Hatshepsut]

Wow. I'm afraid of deep water and disorientation of any kind. Extremely claustrophobic. You must have a lot of trust in the mechanisms you use. Not knowing up from down in the deep water, almost caused me to drown once. I always thought you'd just know which way is up. Couldn't see the air bubbles as the water was too dark and really not safe to open ones' eyes in. And this was just a steep cement elephant pond at the zoo with a concrete podium to high dive from.

You must be prepared for random acts of nature too. Unexpected debris can knock you unconscious when it strikes you in weather.

A terrifying incident happened downtown at the Good Time 1900s Emporium when the lights and AC quit. I was trapped in a gyrating virtual reality module. It was hot in August and the oxygen was vanishing inside. Four of us dripped sweat as we reached the half hour mark, sitting in blackness.

The capsule was air tight and you could sense the oxygen turning to stale exhale. Never again did I risk such a panic. I mean these are kids running those 10 dollar thrill simulators where you choose your music and the roller coaster, rocket ship, or other experience. You got nerves of steel compared to me.

Yes, auditors can be a tour of different realities too. Each is different and use changing styles of address to 'get at' buried items. When hitting upon something that comes to life, other viewpoints can move away like ground in an earthquake. Then, the world can look different, and maybe stuck why's and wherefores dissolve. People become psychonauts in the chair, if in good hands. And psychotics if not.

There have been so many ascension techniques and religious rituals designed to raise spirit from the mire. This place is a smorgasbord of spiritual technologies to sample....at your own risk. I like reading about the pneumatics. They actually plan for something magical to change within them. Some sort of alchemy which make them a newborn product.. Even the Catholic church was like this during the Renaissance. Cathedrals and monasteries were established to experience mediation and union with God. Henosis.....they wanted an alchemical change in themselves. A new life.

This is a Bernini statue from The Da Vinci Code. The Ecstasy of Teresa of Aguila. The angel assuring the mystical experience is interesting. He's clever in skill.



I don't have a lot of opinions on historical practices where one asks help to experience transcendence. The Ionian Sea area was full of oracles on either shore. From Epheus to Delphi, they'd loads of pneumatics. (And they might have been mad) The couple centuries BC and those couple following, by accounts were full of people who could 'change' others. People were 'graced' with, or imparted some shocking revelation and change. I've read accounts of masters affecting this upon students in the Far East. ??? I've always wondered how you could just clear away another's fog and garbage simply by imparting them GRACE.

What a mystical world of psychonauts fearless of change there was. I couldn't even get friends to drop acid with me as a kid, they were so scared of any altered reality.

 

[Chess]

Wow, lots of stuff you've mentioned I've had little experience with but have read some of it in passing without much of it really jumping up saying, "here I am!"
I spoke of purely a physical thing diving, get in there and let's do this thing was the attitude! The mental side you experience in more detail later really, for better or worse. You sort of turn it off while it's happening. Instructors back in the day made no reservations about what can happen to you in the water. They consistently did things like swim up behind you and rip your face mask off or turn your air off. There are drills you do when such things happen, but completing your task/mission is paramount. A neat drill was having your gear thrown over the side in 30' of water and you dive in after it, swim down and assemble it to where you turn the air on and get the gear on. Not many complete the course, haha, not many volunteer either, but those that do and pass become comfortable in their skills. With that said I only did it for 4 years, I knew I was losing my enthusiasm for it and it was getting a bit scary, the odds were beginning to tell me something, my confidence waning. The training saved my life once on a pleasure dive around 100' depth when my exhaust valve disintegrated, and the next breath was air assisted seawater into the lungs. I coughed like crazy of course when it happened but calmly ascended as fast as the smallest bubble to save my lungs from exploding, controlling the coughing while exhaling. It took like forever to get to the surface; I thought my eyes would pop & face would explode. I put it down to the training taking over. But boy, took me week or so to get over the sore throat and horrible cough. For a $5 silicone valve, I sure replaced them regularly after that.
"This place is a smorgasbord of spiritual technologies to sample....at your own risk." I sure agree with that! I happen to agree with Filbert in certain things. I've audited many PCs and had a heap done on myself. Something always seemed to be missing in Scientology and I see it in many other religions, doctrines etc too and that is the upper Dynamics Filbert talks/writes about. Hubbard took Scientology only as far as the lower 7. His axioms, scales etc, are all part and parcel to the lower 7 of this MESTy universe which we presently reside. This puts the upper dynamics in contention with the lower ones and effectively nullifies the true spiritual attributes of the being themselves. The upper ones are, 9 Aesthetics, 10 Ethics (both copyrighted by Hubbard but he didn't "look" further) 11 Decency, 12 Truth, 13 Awareness, 14 Individuality, 15 Coexistence & 16 Theta that is not being.
To me that tells me each person has one foot in this physical universe and one foot outside of it, unless they invalidate the upper dynamics, ie themselves and fall into the soup.
The upper Dynamics are not part of this universe. They are spiritual urges senior to the lower ones.
That is my present take on things. When I audited people, lots of lower bridge ones, I liked to validate them, handle what they wanted handled and started disregarding some of Hubbard's dogmatic dribble, introverting rudiments, sec checks etc and failing to adhere to code of audit the PC in front of you. The PCs loved it, it got me in trouble, but lead me to walking out of Scientology Churches forever. They are spiritual poison the way they practice.
Whatever floats your boat I reckon but keep those upper urges intact.

 

[TheSneakster]

not many people seem to appreciate the crime of plagiarism.

Plagiarism, even if proven, is not statute crime anywhere in the United States, Britain, or EU.

 

[TheSneakster]

Plagiarism, even if proven, is not a statute crime anywhere in the United States, Britain, or EU.