the milgram experiment, gaslighting etc.

[Miss]

A book of interest may be
The Rise of the New Normal Reich
by C.J. Hopkins.

I was reading these essays all along but now they are in a book.

 

[Miss]

from the book, p16.


"Other people’s ideologies are “ideologies.” Ours is objective, unquestionable Truth. If it is not objective Truth, if it is not reality, if it is perceptible as ideology, it is doomed. And, thus, every ideology is an aspiring reality, and is at war with every other aspiring reality ..."


"Such is the paradoxical morphology (or the fate) of every new ideology. Once born, it must encompass everything — and eliminate, or absorb, all competing ideologies — and then die, and be reborn as reality. In order to exist, it must cease to exist. It must cease to exist as ideology, and become imperceptible, axiomatic, unquestionable. It must become unquestionable, not because one is forbidden to question it (and will be punished for questioning it), but because it has become impossible to question it, because there is no longer anything there to question ..."

 

[Miss]

I guess he was sentenced by Germany for his views....

 

[Miss]

"when the alpha chimp dies.... other chimps run around hooting and grimacing until it’s clear who the new dominant primate is, and then they bend over to demonstrate their submission. Totalitarians understand this. Sadists and cult leaders understand this. When the people you are dominating get unruly, and start questioning your right to dominate them, you need to fabricate a “state of emergency” and make everyone feel very afraid, so that they turn (or return) to you for protection from whatever evil enemy is out there threatening the cult, or the Fatherland, or whatever."

 

[Reyne Mayer]

"Such is the paradoxical morphology (or the fate) of every new ideology. Once born, it must encompass everything — and eliminate, or absorb, all competing ideologies — and then die, and be reborn as reality."

thanks for the reference and these quotes.

i'm not sure if the book gets into this, but i think sort of the preface to that is that the leader or ideologues promoting it 'must' position it as being the ultimate (preferable simple) answer (preferably to everything) if they want to attract enough 'true believer' types to really build something.

 

[ILove2Lurk]

I was reading these essays all along but now they are in a book.

Thanks! I've read most all of his essays over the years -- the best of which have been compiled
into three inexpensive Kindle books on Amazon. I think he's a very good writer, has a sense
of humor, and really hits the nail on the head about a ton of topics. He's really helped to shape
my worldview.

I bought the most recent book, which you mentioned, so I could highlight passages. Some of his
insights are incredible. He's highly underrated.

 

[Enthetan]

Thanks! I've read most all of his essays over the years -- the best of which have been compiled
into three inexpensive Kindle books on Amazon. I think he's a very good writer, has a sense
of humor, and really hits the nail on the head about a ton of topics. He's really helped to shape
my worldview.

I bought the most recent book, which you mentioned, so I could highlight passages. Some of his
insights are incredible. He's highly underrated.

I started reading him. I like him.

 

[Miss]

I started reading him. I like him.

me too.

 

[Miss]

Thanks! I've read most all of his essays over the years -- the best of which have been compiled
into three inexpensive Kindle books on Amazon. I think he's a very good writer, has a sense
of humor, and really hits the nail on the head about a ton of topics. He's really helped to shape
my worldview.

I bought the most recent book, which you mentioned, so I could highlight passages. Some of his
insights are incredible. He's highly underrated.

I have to smile at how he puts things...
I agree, very underrated.

 

[Miss]

thanks for the reference and these quotes.

i'm not sure if the book gets into this, but i think sort of the preface to that is that the leader or ideologues promoting it 'must' position it as being the ultimate (preferable simple) answer (preferably to everything) if they want to attract enough 'true believer' types to really build something.

I am still reading... but here is this.

https://x.com/cjhopkins_z23?s=21&t=l4Ursv6yXj7tUXw-EJueRw

 

[Miss]

"so, no, the future isn’t looking very bright for anyone not prepared to behave as if the world were one big infectious disease ward." p. 70



.... kind of reminds me of lower conditions and being in estates doing mindless paint scraping (=the disease ward).

except now the ward has escaped and is everywhere.

 

[Miss]

"It’s like we’re all trapped in a gratuitously didactic Netflix zombie-apocalypse series set in the world of The Handmaid’s Tale..." p74

lol

 

[ILove2Lurk]

Thank you @Miss for posting about CJ Hopkins. I've been looking
for a reason to post some excerpts I've pulled from his articles. Hope
you don't mind me elbowing in on your thread. I really like the guy.

CJ Hopkins in a nutshell for those interested. A summary of two basic
themes running through his writings over eight years. I've excerpted
a few paragraphs from some of my favorite articles of his I've read.

I am a fan of many of his articles. I've read them all. Being a playwright,
writer, and satirist, CJ has a unique way of viewing the world and current
trends and putting his insights to paper.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The War on Reality (Revisited) [excerpted]
CJ Hopkins
May 23, 2023

Reality isn’t what it used to be. It never really was, but that’s another story. This one isn’t about reality per se. It’s about the War on Reality, the one we’re in the middle of, the war that started when the War on Terror was cancelled in the Summer of 2016. It’s actually an extension and an evolution of the War on Terror, and the War on Populism, and the rollout of the New Normal in 2020 … but that is also another story. I want to focus on the war that is raging currently, on the Internet, in people’s workplaces, homes, among friends and families, and in people’s heads. I’m pretty sure you know the war I’m talking about, regardless of which “side” you feel you are on.

The War on Reality is a civil war, but it is much more than just a civil war. It is an asymmetrical, polymorphous, metastatic, multiplicitous war. An ontological free-for-all. It has no conventions or rules of engagement. There are no battle lines. The battle is everywhere. Alliances shift from day to day. It is chaos, unrelenting, inescapable chaos. An omnipresent, immaterial, omnipotent organism attacking itself. It is continual, and completely unwinnable. It is unwinnable because it has already been won. It ended in victory the moment it began, and now we’re doomed to go on fighting it forever, or until some less ethereal leviathan is born, or reborn, out of its ashes.

Unfortunately, that’s rather likely, the less ethereal leviathan scenario. It may not come about in my lifetime — and, selfishly, I’m hoping it doesn’t — but this state of affairs cannot continue indefinitely.

---- my glossary ------------------------------------------------------------​

asymmetrical – not identical on both sides of a central line​

polymorphous – having, assuming, or passing through many or various forms, stages, or the like​

metastatic – transference of disease-producing organisms or malignant or cancerous cells to other parts of the body ​

multiplicitous – a large number or variety​

ontological – of or relating to ontology, the branch of metaphysics that studies the nature of existence or being as such; metaphysical​

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------​

​

As I wrote in an essay in June of 2021 …

“The global capitalist ruling classes are implementing a new official ideology, in other words, a new ‘reality.’ That’s what an official ideology is. It’s more than just a set of beliefs. Anyone can have any beliefs they want. Your personal beliefs do not constitute ‘reality.’ In order to make your beliefs ‘reality,’ you need to have the power to impose them on society. You need the power of the police, the military, the media, scientific ‘experts,’ academia, the culture industry, the entire ideology-manufacturing machine. There is nothing subtle about this process.​

​

Decommissioning one ‘reality’ and replacing it with another is a brutal business. Societies grow accustomed to their ‘realities.’ We do not surrender them willingly or easily. Normally, what’s required to get us to do so is a crisis, a war, a state of emergency, or … you know, a deadly global pandemic. During the changeover from the old ‘reality’ to the new ‘reality,’ the society is torn apart. The old ‘reality’ is being disassembled and the new one has not yet taken its place. It feels like madness, and, in a way, it is. For a time, the society is split in two, as the two ‘realities’ battle it out for dominance. ‘Reality’ being what it is (i.e., monolithic), this is a fight to the death. In the end, only one ‘reality’ can prevail.”​

The New Normal Left [excerpted]
CJ Hopkins
April 3, 2023

Global capitalism (“GloboCap”) was born. It’s one big global-capitalist world now.
. . .

"GloboCap, Inc. (i.e., global capitalism, corporatism, or whatever you need to call the supranational network of global corporations, governments, banks, military contractors, media and entertainment conglomerates, pharmaceutical behemoths, assorted oligarchs, non-governmental governing entities, etc., that are currently running the world)"​

. . .

In other words, GloboCap is going totalitarian. That is what the New Normal is. It is not your granddad’s totalitarianism. It is a new, global-capitalist form of totalitarianism. It displays a number of familiar features — suspension of constitutional rights, official propaganda, goon squads, censorship, ubiquitous symbols of ideological conformity, gratuitous restrictions of freedom of movement and other aspects of everyday life, hatred and persecution of official “Untermenschen,” segregation, criminalization of dissent, mob violence, book burning, show trials, etc. — but there won’t be anyone goose-stepping around in jackboots shrieking about “the master race.” It’s not that kind of totalitarianism.

To understand it (which it would behoove us to do), we need to understand global-capitalist ideology, which isn’t as easy as it sounds. Global capitalism has no ideology … or, rather, its ideology is “reality.” When you have no ideological adversaries, you don’t need an ideology. You’re basically God. “Reality” is whatever you say it is, and whoever disagrees is a “science denier,” or a “conspiracy theorist,” or a “malinformationist,” or some other type of deluded “extremist.” You don’t need to argue ideology with anyone, because you have no ideological opponents. Society is divided into two fundamental groups, (a) “normal people,” who accept “reality,” and (b) the “deviants” and “extremists,” who do not. Your political and ideological opponents are pathologized, preemptively delegitimized. After all, who would argue against “reality” except liars and the clinically insane?

 

[Reyne Mayer]

Global capitalism has no ideology …

it seems to me that in terms of conventional ideology global capitalists are all over the spectrum from left to right. i think where they converge is the idea that the wealthy (and, implicitly, the superior) should rule -- plutocracy, and in many ways a return to the robber baron era and noblesse oblige, and so not our grandparents' but our great-great grandparents' totalitarianism.

i think one of the agendas of at least some of them, is to get people to think it's more complicated than it really is -- stoke ideological wars, culture wars, and so on -- woke vs. awoke. divide and conquer. fuel fighting over things other than the growing wealth and power inequality and other root causes.

and why do general discussions here, particularly of things related to scn, end up sequeing into left/right ideological divisions?

 

[Miss]

Thank you @Miss for posting about CJ Hopkins. I've been looking
for a reason to post some excerpts I've pulled from his articles. Hope
you don't mind me elbowing in on your thread. I really like the guy.

CJ Hopkins in a nutshell for those interested. A summary of two basic
themes running through his writings over eight years. I've excerpted
a few paragraphs from some of my favorite articles of his I've read.

I am a fan of many of his articles. I've read them all. Being a playwright,
writer, and satirist, CJ has a unique way of viewing the world and current
trends and putting his insights to paper.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

The War on Reality (Revisited) [excerpted]
CJ Hopkins
May 23, 2023

Reality isn’t what it used to be. It never really was, but that’s another story. This one isn’t about reality per se. It’s about the War on Reality, the one we’re in the middle of, the war that started when the War on Terror was cancelled in the Summer of 2016. It’s actually an extension and an evolution of the War on Terror, and the War on Populism, and the rollout of the New Normal in 2020 … but that is also another story. I want to focus on the war that is raging currently, on the Internet, in people’s workplaces, homes, among friends and families, and in people’s heads. I’m pretty sure you know the war I’m talking about, regardless of which “side” you feel you are on.

The War on Reality is a civil war, but it is much more than just a civil war. It is an asymmetrical, polymorphous, metastatic, multiplicitous war. An ontological free-for-all. It has no conventions or rules of engagement. There are no battle lines. The battle is everywhere. Alliances shift from day to day. It is chaos, unrelenting, inescapable chaos. An omnipresent, immaterial, omnipotent organism attacking itself. It is continual, and completely unwinnable. It is unwinnable because it has already been won. It ended in victory the moment it began, and now we’re doomed to go on fighting it forever, or until some less ethereal leviathan is born, or reborn, out of its ashes.

Unfortunately, that’s rather likely, the less ethereal leviathan scenario. It may not come about in my lifetime — and, selfishly, I’m hoping it doesn’t — but this state of affairs cannot continue indefinitely.

---- my glossary ------------------------------------------------------------​

asymmetrical – not identical on both sides of a central line​

polymorphous – having, assuming, or passing through many or various forms, stages, or the like​

metastatic – transference of disease-producing organisms or malignant or cancerous cells to other parts of the body ​

multiplicitous – a large number or variety​

ontological – of or relating to ontology, the branch of metaphysics that studies the nature of existence or being as such; metaphysical​

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------​

​

As I wrote in an essay in June of 2021 …

“The global capitalist ruling classes are implementing a new official ideology, in other words, a new ‘reality.’ That’s what an official ideology is. It’s more than just a set of beliefs. Anyone can have any beliefs they want. Your personal beliefs do not constitute ‘reality.’ In order to make your beliefs ‘reality,’ you need to have the power to impose them on society. You need the power of the police, the military, the media, scientific ‘experts,’ academia, the culture industry, the entire ideology-manufacturing machine. There is nothing subtle about this process.​

​

Decommissioning one ‘reality’ and replacing it with another is a brutal business. Societies grow accustomed to their ‘realities.’ We do not surrender them willingly or easily. Normally, what’s required to get us to do so is a crisis, a war, a state of emergency, or … you know, a deadly global pandemic. During the changeover from the old ‘reality’ to the new ‘reality,’ the society is torn apart. The old ‘reality’ is being disassembled and the new one has not yet taken its place. It feels like madness, and, in a way, it is. For a time, the society is split in two, as the two ‘realities’ battle it out for dominance. ‘Reality’ being what it is (i.e., monolithic), this is a fight to the death. In the end, only one ‘reality’ can prevail.”​

The New Normal Left [excerpted]
CJ Hopkins
April 3, 2023

Global capitalism (“GloboCap”) was born. It’s one big global-capitalist world now.
. . .

"GloboCap, Inc. (i.e., global capitalism, corporatism, or whatever you need to call the supranational network of global corporations, governments, banks, military contractors, media and entertainment conglomerates, pharmaceutical behemoths, assorted oligarchs, non-governmental governing entities, etc., that are currently running the world)"​

. . .

In other words, GloboCap is going totalitarian. That is what the New Normal is. It is not your granddad’s totalitarianism. It is a new, global-capitalist form of totalitarianism. It displays a number of familiar features — suspension of constitutional rights, official propaganda, goon squads, censorship, ubiquitous symbols of ideological conformity, gratuitous restrictions of freedom of movement and other aspects of everyday life, hatred and persecution of official “Untermenschen,” segregation, criminalization of dissent, mob violence, book burning, show trials, etc. — but there won’t be anyone goose-stepping around in jackboots shrieking about “the master race.” It’s not that kind of totalitarianism.

To understand it (which it would behoove us to do), we need to understand global-capitalist ideology, which isn’t as easy as it sounds. Global capitalism has no ideology … or, rather, its ideology is “reality.” When you have no ideological adversaries, you don’t need an ideology. You’re basically God. “Reality” is whatever you say it is, and whoever disagrees is a “science denier,” or a “conspiracy theorist,” or a “malinformationist,” or some other type of deluded “extremist.” You don’t need to argue ideology with anyone, because you have no ideological opponents. Society is divided into two fundamental groups, (a) “normal people,” who accept “reality,” and (b) the “deviants” and “extremists,” who do not. Your political and ideological opponents are pathologized, preemptively delegitimized. After all, who would argue against “reality” except liars and the clinically insane?

please elbow.

I read have his site since 2020 but not all of it...

and I am happy for you to drive.

 

[Cat_Daddy]

I have a question. Is this about that guy who was fiddling with the literal gas lights to confuse his wife?

A book of interest may be
The Rise of the New Normal Reich
by C.J. Hopkins.

I was reading these essays all along but now they are in a book.

 

[Miss]

@ILove2Lurk


just no

'donkey game'
for me

 

[Miss]

I have a question. Is this about that guy who was fiddling with the literal gas lights to confuse his wife?

well I wasn't there
but don't know his bio.

either way he has some good stuff to say.
I stole a bunch of quarters when I was 4
but the loud noise they made gave
me away... I will try to put
that bit onto the back inside cover
of my next book...

its like michio kaku,
an atheist and i am not
but good stuff to say
so i like him...

anyway in this screwed up matrix
the lies make it impossible to know
what is what....
i liked his parallel universes book....
so I got a copy but that is another thread.

; )

 

[Cat_Daddy]

The Rise of the New Normal Reich: Consent Factory Essays, Vol. III (2020-2021) Paperback – May 4, 2022
by C. J. Hopkins (Author)

In this third volume of his Consent Factory Essays, C. J. Hopkins presents an unofficial history of the roll-out of the "New Normal" during the 2020-2021 Covid-19 pandemic, and an analysis of this new, pathologized-totalitarian ideology that has radically transformed societies around the world.

From the proclamation of the "New Normal" and the initial propaganda blitzkrieg in March of 2020, and on through the global lockdowns, the suspension of constitutional rights, the mask mandates, the social distancing, the censorship, the segregation and persecution of "the Unvaccinated," and, finally, the collapse of the official Covid narrative at the end of 2021, the essays in this volume comprise an "as-it-happened" record of how insane and totalitarian things got, and puts the madness into context. "No other prophet has described the strategies or predicted the perils of the emerging totalitarianism with such persistence and eloquence." (Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.)

Featuring popular essays like The Covidian Cult, The "Unvaccinated" Question, The Criminalization of Dissent, Manufacturing New Normal "Reality," and a new introductory essay exploring the question of how nominally democratic societies around the world could be so suddenly and easily transformed into pathologized-totalitarian police states, the essays in this collection present "[a] searing (and therefore satisfying) chronicle of life in, and against, the locked-down, masked-up, triple-vaxxed madhouse of New Normal insanity." (Max Blumenthal)

"[Hopkins] was one of the only people in English willing to do [that], and he did it with his trademark wit and bravado. He'll be remembered as a signature chronicler of the 'New Normal.'" (Matt Taibbi)

 

[Miss]

it seems to me that in terms of conventional ideology global capitalists are all over the spectrum from left to right. i think where they converge is the idea that the wealthy (and, implicitly, the superior) should rule -- plutocracy, and in many ways a return to the robber baron era and noblesse oblige, and so not our grandparents' but our great-great grandparents' totalitarianism.

i think one of the agendas of at least some of them, is to get people to think it's more complicated than it really is -- stoke ideological wars, culture wars, and so on -- woke vs. awoke. divide and conquer. fuel fighting over things other than the growing wealth and power inequality and other root causes.

and why do general discussions here, particularly of things related to scn, end up sequeing into left/right ideological divisions?

weird isn't it?


i don't think it's a party thing either...
more like they own the planet
and they fill either side of the aisle
with their blather...
imo.