TOP SUPER-STUPID MOMENTS IN SCIENTOLOGY (PART V)

[HelluvaHoax!]

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cross-posted from another thread discussing how
many Scientologists in the entire world have "made it"
over the past 73 years to the top of the "Bridge" (OT VIII)
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Very interesting!

That means since the year the cult was founded (1950) they have produced on average FIVE (5) SCIENTOLOGY RECRUITS PER MONTH WORLDWIDE that continued Scientology's Bridge up to the top level, OT VIII.

That's less than one (1) Scientologist per continent who "made it to OT" for every month that Scientology has existed. Example: Of the 4.5 billion people in Asia, only one (1) person got on the Bridge over an entire month who eventually succeeded in reaching the top level of OT VIII. One (1) out of 4.5 billion! LOL.

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Two questions arise:

• How is this "TOTAL CAUSE OVER LIFE"?​
• How does the cult keep announcing "UNPRECEDENTED 4TH DYNAMIC EXPANSION" without bursting out laughing?​

There is something else very interesting about the above numbers, particularly this:

EACH MONTH SINCE SCIENTOLOGY BEGAN 73 YEARS AGO
ONLY FIVE (5) PEOPLE ON EARTH JOINED SCIENTOLOGY WHO
EVENTUALLY CONTINUED GOING UP THE "BRIDGE" TO OT VIII.

HOWEVER, EACH MONTH THE EARTH'S POPULATION
INCREASES BY 6,000,000 ADDITIONAL PEOPLE.​

Therefore, per historical statistics in 1950 the earth's population was 2.5 billion.

Currently, the earth's population is 7.5 billion--five billion more than it was in 1950.

Over that 73 year span, Scientology managed to produce only 4,364 OT VIIIs.

Monthly this works out to the following: Scientology recruits an average of 5 people on the Bridge who will eventually become an OT VIII-- while in that same month the world's population grows by 200,000 people!

Meaning, every single month Scientology falls further behind on it's planetary clearing goal by another 199,940 people!

Ergo, all the soaring graphs Scientology proudly shows at all its glorious events are fake wins. The graphs in real life are an inversion. Scientology real stats are a rocket ride in the wrong direction. In the framework of "clearing the planet", the cult is traveling at the speed of light but in the wrong direction!

Scientology's real graphs for planetary clearing and expansion reveal that their true stat is a negative number.

In different terms, imagine a 100 story building that just caught fire on the ground floor. All the fire engines in the city show up to present a total disaster because that fire is slowly creeping upwards, floor by floor. Unless the fire can be put under control, it will eventually engulf the entire building and reduce it to ashes.

A news crew catches the fire chief for a few moments to get an update, while the uncontrollable inferno can be seen in the background snaking it's way up the building like a boa constrictor.

NEWS REPORTER
Chief! Chief! How is it going on containing the fire?
Is there any hope you can save the building?

FIRE CHIEF
(a Scientologist)
Well, I am unbelievably excited to report that we are having
unprecedented wins in putting out the fire!

NEWS REPORTER
Wuttttt? How can you say that?! We can see the building
going up in flames, floor by floor. In the last 3 hours the fire
spread from the first floor all the up to the 67th floor and
it's not stopping! How are you say you are having "wins"?!

FIRE CHIEF
(pulls out graphs)
Well, take a look with your own eyes. Here are the stats.
We now are hooked up to 32 fire hydrants, each of which
is releasing 1,800 gallons of water per minute! So this huge
upward spike on this graph represents 57,600 gallons of
water that we are putting on that fire every single minute.
But wait, there's even more good news. That means we
are putting 3,456,000 gallons of water on that fire every
hour. And we've been doing that for 3 hours which is a
record breaking, highest-ever 10,368,000 gallons of
water that we outflowed onto that fire! So you can
report to your readers that our firemen are "total cause"
over the fire and we couldn't be happier!

REPORTER
(hears explosion, looks up at the skyscraper)
Oh my god! Now the entire 100 floors are engulfed in
flames! What are you talking about?!

FIRE CHIEF
Like I said, our water-outflowed stat hit highest ever
today and we couldn't be happier with our unprecedented wins!


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[Reyne Mayer]

Excellent post!

Your advice to Riddick would work, unless of course he is a troll. Because a dedicated troll's mission statement mandates that they pretend to not be listening and do so very disrespectfully. That is their "technology" to get their "product".

i was hoping you'd appreciate it

to refer back to an earlier part of the discussion, my approach to trolls is rather than just respond to them, to stop and think about what they would least want to have posted -- perhaps even what their trolling is trying to skirt or derail discussion of -- and then post that in response.

i do feel bad for Riddick if he does have some mix of social behavior deficit and obsessive behavior -- like Rain Man. but if so scientology obviously did not help him with that -- and likely took advantage of it, such as exploiting compulsive needs for 'grand' theories that explain everything, and 'certainty' -- and so i think he needs some more appropriate feedback. and come to think of it, that's another way in which we see the stupidity of $cn on display, Riddick is sort of playing the idiot relative of LRH who is so overly obsessed with theories and being the guy who somehow figured out what it's all about, such as how Rain Man takes his brother's unpleasant behavior to an unbearable extreme (see the talk about the detailed specs of fast cars in the 'underwear' clip).

Social behavior deficits are a hallmark feature of psychiatric and neurodevelopmental disorders, including depression, anxiety, autism and schizophrenia

Emergence of social behavior deficit, blunted corticolimbic ...

 

[Dotey OT]

sorry to lead you guys goes on, hubbard never used rhetoric, it was all Crowley's Magic and AESP's, probably some hypnosis too.

Does someone want to interpret Riddick's post from 2021?

 

[guanoloco]

Does someone want to interpret Riddick's post from 2021?

I don't, Dotey. Quite frankly I'm rhetoric-exausted. For the most part I considered Riddick's rhetoric posts to be something akin to a stream-of-consciousness self-revelation thing to something he just learned about.

An itsa line type of thing.

 

[Dotey OT]

That was my last rhetoric related Riddick post

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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to refer back to an earlier part of the discussion, my approach to trolls is rather than just respond to them, to stop and think about what they would least want to have posted -- perhaps even what their trolling is trying to skirt or derail discussion of -- and then post that in response.

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Whoa!

SAVAGE kung fu debating tech!
I shall study hard & practice to learn it.

Thank you, Master Po.

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[HelluvaHoax!]

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i do feel bad for Riddick if he does have some mix of social behavior deficit and obsessive behavior -- like Rain Man. but if so scientology obviously did not help him with that -- and likely took advantage of it, such as exploiting compulsive needs for 'grand' theories that explain everything, and 'certainty' -- and so i think he needs some more appropriate feedback. and come to think of it, that's another way in which we see the stupidity of $cn on display, Riddick is sort of playing the idiot relative of LRH who is so overly obsessed with theories and being the guy who somehow figured out what it's all about, such as how Rain Man takes his brother's unpleasant behavior to an unbearable extreme (see the talk about the detailed specs of fast cars in the 'underwear' clip).

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An interesting and thought-provoking take!

So, that would cast Riddick in the the starring role of an idiot savant if a followup Rain Man movie is ever produced.

And based on both Dustin Hoffman's character and Riddick's shared compulsive repetition of words and phrases, the sequel (and Riddick's character) could be named REFRAIN MAN.

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[Dotey OT]

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An interesting and thought-provoking take!

So, that would cast Riddick in the the starring role of an idiot savant if a followup Rain Man movie is ever produced.

And based on both Dustin Hoffman's character and Riddick's shared compulsive repetition of words and phrases, the sequel (and Riddick's character) could be named REFRAIN MAN.

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You had to. You just had to do it. Refrain man. Oh my.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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HUMANITARIAN PROCLAMATION du jour​

It's been very quietly pleasant without Riddick posting here in the last 18 hours or so. In about 6 hours it will have been a full day that Riddick has not posted anything on this thread. My understanding is that he doesn't post on weekends. We'll see what happens on Monday if he resumes with his derailing and unwanted trolling posts here. If, however, by the end of Monday there are no more Riddick posts or trolling on the "TOP SUPER-STUPID MOMENTS IN SCIENTOLOGY" discussion thread, I think it would be appropriate for an official "Cease Fire" to be declared on pepper-spraying or shooting stun guns in his direction or savagely debunking him any further. It's good enough that he just went away and stays away.

Never let it be said that the Church of Hoaxology is without mercy. LOL.

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[guanoloco]

amazing logos or logical analysis. You do it good.

"Logos definition: Logos is a rhetorical device that uses reason and logic to persuade an audience "

The audience you are persuading are still members in and members who are out. I like it.

More itsa?

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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amazing logos or logical analysis. You do it good.

"Logos definition: Logos is a rhetorical device that uses reason and logic to persuade an audience "

The audience you are persuading are still members in and members who are out. I like it.

Oh, I see the troll came running back to this thread because he hasn't reached his goal yet of sliming and derailing discussions with the hope that the thread will become dysfunctional. We see that he has a new trolling gimmick too. He wants to derail the discussion to "rhetoric" with a new pretext-- simultaneously trolling and pretending to be giving out compliments-- as a way of shielding himself from moderation.

The modern science of really "mental" trolling, LOL.

If anyone on ESMB ever had any doubt whether he is on this board to troll, there is your answer. Just ask yourself this simple question: WHY IS HE HERE ON THIS THREAD AND REFUSING TO STOP POSTING ABOUT RHETORIC? ESMB's moderator might find this question interesting.

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ps: The "Cease Fire" proclamation above is canceled. Apparently the troll wants to go out in a blaze of kamikaze glory, so let him. LOL


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[Reyne Mayer]

amazing logos or logical analysis. You do it good.

what if it is humor -- not rhetoric? are you able to tell the difference?

According to Gardner and Brownell, researchers who developed the humor measure that I used in my study, flexible thinking is important in understanding jokes. Punchlines in jokes are funny partly because they are unexpected. Additionally, according to these researchers, big picture thinking is essential in understanding jokes, as it allows the listener to understand how the surprising punchline coheres with the joke body. As individuals with AS often demonstrate rigid thinking, a desire for the preservation of sameness, and difficulties with big picture thinking, it seems that individuals with AS would have trouble perceiving and producing conventional humor.

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[HelluvaHoax!]

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what if it is humor -- not rhetoric? are you able to tell the difference?

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That makes me wonder about some new things:

- - Has anyone ever witnessed anything Riddick ever posted that contained a​

nano-particle of humor? I haven't.​

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- - Can someone with Asperger's Syndrome simultaneously suffer from a morbid​

case of Dunning-Kruger effect?​

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- - Can someone afflicted with both of the above, nonetheless be gainfully​

employed as a troll on an ex-Scientology website? LOL​

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[HelluvaHoax!]

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SCIENTOLOGY MARKETING
It's not that the cult is lying. It's just that
they sometimes forget to include a minor
r-factor footnote at the bottom. . .

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[guanoloco]

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SCIENTOLOGY MARKETING
It's not that the cult is lying. It's just that
they sometimes forget to include a minor
r-factor footnote at the bottom. . .

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Sounds like standpoint theory...another quack conspiracy theory.

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

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THE MODERN SCIENCE BEHIND RON-THE-SCIENTIST'S
SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH & SCIENTIFIC STUDY TECH

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* SACRED SCIENTOLOGY SCRIPTURE: The Gorilla Goals were a series of implants created by invaders from Helatrobus "between about 319 trillion[1] years ago to about 256 trillion trillion[17] years ago".

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[HelluvaHoax!]

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PART II
SAFEGUARDING STUDENTS' ETERNITIES BY BEING
UNREASONABLE ABOUT STANDARD
CLAY DEMO TECHNOLOGY

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[Reyne Mayer]

THE MODERN SCIENCE BEHIND RON-THE-SCIENTIST'S
SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH & SCIENTIFIC STUDY TECH

Sally, if unsure, should know to use the Hubbardian scientific method -- and check with a tomato.....

 

[ILove2Lurk]

. . .
Brother Dearest is the tell-all biography that had been completed by A&E two years ago
and then it was never aired. Ads began appearing on cable TV April 1st for this two-hour
special. Should be a barnburner. Airs Tuesday 10 PM (EST) on A&E.

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About the Show​

The Biography documentary “Brother Dearest” serves as the complete and definitive story​

of two brothers who fought for the throne of a worldwide pseudo-religious empire. One became​

the reigning king and the other ended up living on the streets, far away from the lavish life of​

royalty. Don Hubbard, the forgotten brother, provided his most extensive on-camera interview​

to-date. The narrative spine of the documentary is never-before-seen restored footage of both​

brothers in Elizabeth, Phoenix, and Washington, D.C. The most recent studio interview provides​

a first-hand emotional account of how Don Hubbard got cast aside and how his brother Ron​

ascended to historical greatness, unimaginable wealth, and cultural immortality. A&E was given​

unprecedented access to private letters written between the two brothers, as well as many rare,​

personal photos from the Hubbard family archive.​

Looks good! I'm gonna check it out.
Mikael

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

. . .
Brother Dearest is the tell-all biography that had been completed by A&E two years ago
and then it was never aired. Ads began appearing on cable TV April 1st for this two-hour
special. Should be a barnburner. Airs Tuesday 10 PM (EST) on A&E.

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About the Show​

The Biography documentary “Brother Dearest” serves as the complete and definitive story​

of two brothers who fought for the throne of a worldwide pseudo-religious empire. One became​

the reigning king and the other ended up living on the streets, far away from the lavish life of​

royalty. Don Hubbard, the forgotten brother, provided his most extensive on-camera interview​

to-date. The narrative spine of the documentary is never-before-seen restored footage of both​

brothers in Elizabeth, Phoenix, and Washington, D.C. The most recent studio interview provides​

a first-hand emotional account of how Don Hubbard got cast aside and how his brother Ron​

ascended to historical greatness, unimaginable wealth, and cultural immortality. A&E was given​

unprecedented access to private letters written between the two brothers, as well as many rare,​

personal photos from the Hubbard family archive.​

Looks good! I'm gonna check it out.
Mikael

Terrific advertising teaser!

I'm looking forward to grabbing some popcorn and watching it!

I just hope that Don Hubbard doesn't end up getting sued into oblivion by the COS for (allegedly) breaking the 174 Non Disclosure Agreements he signed while a member of his brother's religion.

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