The Three Basic Scientology Beliefs - Belief #1

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Belief One

This can be best stated as:

The future of every man, woman and child, for all eternity depends solely on what we accomplish realizing the goals of Scientology. If we fail we all will suffer and die for endless eternities. We will die horrible deaths over and over forever.

The condition of people, governments, medicine, science, education and even the entire universe, taken as a whole, is horrible, decayed, dying and failing. This will only get worse if it continues unaddressed and unhandled.

Therefore, the actions of Scientology are more important than anything anywhere at anytime past, present or future. There is nothing that even takes a close second-place.

As a spiritual being, I am eternal, and must come back into new bodies over and over. I will continue in this cycle of rebirth and death, with pain and with suffering, for all eternity UNLESS I succeed with Scientology.

This is the "gloom & doom" basis of Scientology beliefs. The view is basically that everything is horrible, and will remain horrible, UNLESS Scientology wholly succeeds in its mission, because ONLY Scientology has the information and methods that can stop the gloom and doom from happening. It is that simple. It is typical SALVATION MENTALITY WHERE, we, the Church of Scientology, have accurately described the state of salvation and only we, the Church of Scientology, offer the correct path to reach that state of salvation. Notice the emphasis on “we”? There is often this slant to get you to view yourself as part of something bigger. That is what the member mentally attaches onto. He or she attaches onto this ideal or valuable goal that reeks of constant threats of doom and gloom.

Corollary Belief 1A:

Therefore, we are justified in doing anything to anyone if it safeguards our continued existence and contributes to our success. All considerations are minor compared to this. Nothing else matters, and no other person or group matters compared to this.

Corollary Belief 1B:

Concerns such as friendship, family, personal goals and even health are far secondary to the success of the Scientology movement.

These ideas, which come to exist as an intertwining set of firmly held beliefs in the minds of Scientologists, are based on the numerous writings and lectures by L. Ron Hubbard. Each new member contacts these ideas very early on during their Scientology experience, and each member constantly encounters similar ideas as they continue through their studies and involvement with Scientology. It would be a fair statement to say that these ideas are constantly driven into their minds on a non-stop basis. For staff members, there is also endless additional repeated indoctrination into these ideas through regularly scheduled staff meetings, staff briefings, Church events, study orders, Orders of the Day, and course training. The way Scientology training is arranged, with strict training methods, and which allows for no questioning, disagreement or discussion, well ensures the total acceptance of ALL ideas. Partial acceptance of ideas is not allowed; only 100% complete absolute agreement is tolerated and acceptable. A "pick and choose" mentality is unallowable in the Church of Scientology. As you will see this is based on another, later discussed basic belief, that Scientology methods are 100% workable and effective, but only if applied exactly and completely, without alteration, as L. Ron Hubbard directed them to be applied. Therefore, all avenues for "picking and choosing" are blocked. There is only ONE correct way. There is no possible validity given to anything other than what Hubbard declared as true, and what he instructs members to do. That notion is also part of the official Church of Scientology mindset. This mindset is carefully and systematically nurtured in each adherent.

For example, in Scientology there is a procedure called "Chinese School" where the members all line up and chant words and ideas in unison, words and ideas that some Scientology leader wants to ram into their little heads.

"3. Chinese School (staff or div staff all together in front of a big org board chanting together the hats, duties and products of the org as visible on the org board). (HCO PL 9 March 1972 Issue III DEV-T AND UNHATTEDNESS)

This method is commonly used with any idea, including the basic beliefs discussed in this section. A group of Church members line up, and chant each key point together. They do this day after day until they can each recite the idea, phrase or sentence without error. This is one of many different aspects of the strict Scientology indoctrination method. Though, the primary methods of indoctrination occur with the way Scientology training occurs.

Simply and clearly stated, in Scientology training or study the LRH materials are always beyond question. They are viewed as "wholly perfect". They are viewed as "beyond any possibility of error". If you have a question then you are instructed to find your misunderstood word(s), or get more mass on the subject by demonstrating principles and ideas. If you disagree with any topic by Hubbard, then you must first complete the above previous two steps, and if still disagreeing, then get disagreements addressed and handled with auditing, or corrective actions in the Qualifications Division, and if still disagreeing, then get sent to ethics to “clean up your out-ethics” by writing up overts and withholds (or get the overts and withholds pulled in sec-check auditing). Disagreement is not allowed, accepted or tolerated in any form. That aspect of Scientology is very important, and one must understand this about them to truly comprehend what “makes them tick”.

The theory involved here, the accepted belief, is that the "data is perfect", it always works if properly understood and applied, and it can only be a case of “problems with the student” that prevent understanding, agreement, great results and wide-eyed enthusiasm for what was studied. Every student clears up the meaning of words, demonstrates principles, receives coaching on study materials, receives checkouts, and applies other study techniques such as metered word clearing, clay demonstrations, and drawing diagrams. It is strictly forbidden to ask another student, or the course supervisor about what anything means in Scientology. It is forbidden for a Course Supervisor to answer any questions from students with anything except, "what do your course materials state?" or "what is your misunderstood word"? The ONLY correct action in Scientology is to get the student to study the materials until the student understands, agrees with and greatly enjoys the materials. This acts to heavily reinforce and condition the student with certain very specific ideas. This point cannot be over-emphasized enough. Disagreement, of any type, is not tolerated. Only wide-eyed enthusiastic agreement is desirable and acceptable by the group. In Scientology, this is called VGI’s (an acronym for “Very Good Indicators” – happy, smiling, uptone, enthusiastic, wanting to talk Scientology up to others, etc.). Scientology indoctrination was carefully designed by Hubbard to ensure that.

In Scientology, the various ideas and concepts are repeated over and over and over until the member has them firmly planted in their minds; until he or she "understands" them, agrees with them, and especially, asserts them as undeniable and indisputable facts. This is a basic Scientology study method, enforcing the use of repetition:

"NUMBER OF TIMES OVER THE MATERIAL EQUALS CERTAINTY" (HCOPL 8 May 1969 Issue I IMPORTANT STUDY DATA)

So, of course, Scientology "learning" methods involve making members go over some subject or idea as many times as necessary until the person is "certain" about the subject or idea. "Certainty" is a vital concept in Scientology. “Certainty” generally means having total agreement with the ideas of Scientology.

 

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You cannot remain in Scientology for very long without adopting an attitude of total and complete acceptance of everything just as written or said by Hubbard. There is no alternative allowed. The beliefs discussed in this section, as with all ideas within Scientology, are relentlessly driven into the minds of the members through the various study and indoctrination methods mentioned in this section, based on exactly written instructions by L. Ron Hubbard.

Here are a few quotes by Hubbard displaying the basis of the above belief. There are many more possible quotes that could be displayed here that would show similar sentiments.

“We're not playing some minor game in Scientology. It isn't cute or something to do for lack of something better.

The whole agonized future of the planet, every man, woman and child on it, and your own destiny for the next endless trillions of years depend on what you do here and now with and in Scientology.

This is a deadly serious activity. And if we miss getting out of the trap now, we may never again have another chance.

Remember, this is our first chance to do so in all the endless trillions of years of the past.” (HCO PL 7 February 1965 Keeping Scientology Working Series 1)

Notice the references such as the "whole agonized future of the planet", "deadly serious activity", "first chance to do so in all the endless trillions of years", and "we may never again have another chance." This is the heavy-duty, extreme tone of the subject materials of Scientology. This is the framework that the entire organization operates from and within. This viewpoint, wildly different than almost ANY other person or group, is very rigid, unwavering, severe, unconditional, absolute, extreme and entirely incapable of and unwilling to compromise. The reader needs to get a handle on this if you are to ever truly understand them, and what motivates them. This is not just some starry-eyed New Age self-help group, just as Hubbard himself repeatedly declares and clearly asserts.

Anybody dealing with the Church of Scientology needs to understand this about them, or you will fail to grasp why it is that they do some of the things that they do. Whether you are part of some school, local government, state government, federal government, lawyer, or judge, if you become a problem or threat to them in any way, knowingly or unknowingly, then you can only understand their subsequent vicious and brutal tactics once you understand these beliefs. These people seriously believe they are saving the entire universe for all eternity. They take this mission very seriously. They see anyone standing in the way of their mission as an enemy, and they will view you as a barrier to the endless wonders of freedom and spiritual salvation that they imagine only Scientology can deliver.

This policy, Keeping Scientology Working (KSW Series #1), written by Hubbard, is the first item on almost every Scientology course. The ideas contained in KSW Series #1, and KSW-related policies, are constantly driven into the minds of every Scientologist by constant repetition, on courses, but also through endless references to such information at public briefings, in promotional materials, and at (mandatory) public events. This basic policy, KSW Series #1, is always “star-rated”, and the student must show exact understanding and agreement with the ideas contained in this policy letter by L. Ron Hubbard.

Here as a copy taken directly from the policy letter under discussion:



The picture below shows a section taken from the KSW Series #1 policy letter:



This section located at the top left of every policy letter indicates the "routing", or "who" is supposed to get a copy of the issue, read it, understand it, and apply it. "Staff Member Hat" means that it is to be placed in every "hat" (training folder) of every staff member in any Scientology Church organization. In Scientologese this means that this issue is to be in EVERY job folder containing the relevant training materials for any position in a Scientology (or Dianetics) organization. What this means in reality is that this issue is also in every course in Scientology, usually right at or near the beginning (to set the proper mood and attitude).

The next diagram shows another section from page 1 of the KSW Series #1 policy:



A "hat check" is a test or verification by a staff member done to ensure another staff member has read, understands and agrees with the policy or materials in question. According to this every new staff member must read this issue as soon as they are hired, and be very well checked out on it to insure that they "understand" it, and can and will apply it fully. Part of "understanding" involves completely "agreeing" with it. The indoctrination into the dire importance of the mission of Scientology begins immediately for the newly hired staff member.

The next excerpt from KSW Series #1 shows that public (non-staff) Scientology members are equally encouraged to get with the program, and fully accept the severity of the task as quickly as possible:

“When somebody enrolls, consider he or she has joined up for the duration of the universe - never permit an open-minded approach. If they're going to quit let them quit fast. If they enrolled, they're aboard; they're here on the same terms as the rest of us - win or die in the attempt. Never let them be half-minded about being Scientologists.

We'd rather have you dead than incapable.”

Notice the references such as "for the duration of the universe", the criticism of an "open-minded approach" about Scientology, and the criticism of a "half-minded" attitude about Scientology. The "tone" is one of utter and complete alliance, and allegiance to the "cause". To really understand what this means, the reader must know what the terms for the "rest of us" refers to. It refers to the hardcore staff members in the Sea Organization - the group that controls and runs the Church of Scientology.

"A post in a Scientology organization isn't a job. It's a trust and a crusade. We're free men and women - probably the last free men and women on Earth. Remember, we'll have to come back to earth no matter what "happens" to us. If we don't do a good job now, we may never get another chance.

Yes, I'm sure that's the way it is.

So, we have an organization, we have a field we must support, we have a chance.

That's more than we had the last time night's curtain began to fall on freedom."
(HCO PL 2 November 1970 Issue II THE THEORY OF SCIENTOLOGY ORGANIZATIONS)


"The ultimate product of Scientology is a universe that is decent and happy to live in, not degenerated and made miserable by suppressives as it has been."
(HCO PL 4 December 1966 EXPANSION: THEORY OF POLICY)


"The threat to us if we don't make it is eternity.

One could ask a staff member that refuses to get hatted how he would like to spend all of the coming eternity blind, in the dark and in pain. He would probably say he wouldn't like that. But if we don't make it, that's what we've got and that's what he's condemning this planet to.

He doesn't realize that he himself, next life, is for it if we don't make it.

If staff in our orgs don't get hatted, they're condemning themselves and the planet to death a thousand times over.

So understand that no matter how mild the environment might appear to you, we are actually fighting a full-scale war against ignorance and enslavement. But we do have the tech to win."
(HCO PL 2 July 1984 HATTING AND THE ENVIRONMENT)


"A post in this organization is a trust. Its duty is to keep the peace, do the job and get the show on the road. If anyone cannot conceive of his post as a trust with this mission, he has no business here."
(SEC ED No. 215 A STAFF POST)


"We must come to orderly cause-point on every post. We must, we must, we must.

We're playing for blood. The stake is Earth. If we don't make it nobody will. We're the sole agency in existence today that can forestall the erasure of all civilization or bring a new better one. If we aren't willing to be hanged for our mistakes we'll surely fry for them."
(HCO PL 22 May 1959 Issue II CENTRAL ORGANIZATION EFFICIENCY)


"Scientology is the only game in the universe where everybody wins.

We respect the other fellow whatever his status and give him his right to win the biggest prize of all, himself or herself. That prize is won by dedicated, exact application of Scientology and full support of our mission in our organization and the public.

Organized, we can each one win the biggest prize that can be offered - a full recovery of self.

There is no greater game in the universe than Scientology, for it is the only game in which everybody wins. And that places it far above all other games and makes it the game of games where everybody gets the ultimate prize of self . . ."
(HCO PL 18 April 1965 Issue I CONTESTS AND PRIZES)


"I have to be, above all things, effective and cannot fall short of being effective or explain ineffectiveness away.

I never compromise with a situation to be agreeable.

This may seem to be a brutal way to go about doing things but remember this: We are a few and we have an enormous area to salvage that long ago went down for the third time. If we fail, it is improbable the job will ever again be done as, on evidence that the problem still exists, it has never before been solved in all the long past ages. So we really can't take chances. Not with the whole human race. So we do our jobs and see that our jobs are done. We have a trust which, if we fail it, condemns ourselves, our friends, our future to continued oblivion. So we mustn't fail. Or permit others to fail. And that is how and why we ARE getting the job done".
(HCO PL 12 September 1967 POST, HANDLING OF)


"If we're determined we will make it, we will make it."
(HCO PL 23 April 1965 Issue III PROBLEMS)


"This goes directly back to man's failure to solve the riddle of himself.

We must raise our sights as to what we expect from ourselves and each other.

Only then can we arrest and then reverse the decline".
(HCO PL 24 October 1971 PERFORMANCE)


"The whole human race is about to start going up. They'll move to the degree you deliver and no faster. So let's get the show on the road".
(HCO PL 28 February 1965 Issue I DELIVER)


"We're working to provide a safe environment for Scientology and Scientologists in orgs everywhere.

The dangerous environment of the wog world, of injustice, sudden dismissals, war, atomic bombs, will only persist and trouble us if we fail to spread our safe environment across the world."
(HCO PL 5 April 1965 Issue III SCIENTOLOGY MAKES A SAFE ENVIRONMENT)


"The being who is guilty knows with certainty that he is offending against the future of all, no matter what his surface manifestations or conduct. Further, while wog law at the worst can only cause him or her some pain and a body by execution or one's lifetime loss of liberty, we threaten his eternity.

Even the fellow who could push the button on atomic war knows, really, it's only one lifetime per person he is blowing up, only one phase in Earth's existence he or she is destroying. That we exist here could actually restrain him. The mere destruction of a planet might not, as it's temporary.

You are threatening somebody with oblivion for eternity by expulsion from Scientology."
(HCO PL 29 April 1965 Issue III ETHICS: REVIEW)


"Dilettante = One who interests himself in an art or science merely as a pastime and without serious study.

In an org, this manifests itself with 'people should live a little.' 'One needs a rest from Scientology.' 'One should do something else, too'. All that kind of jazz.

Ask what they do the other nights. Bowling. Horse racing.

Boy, you better maul the case folders of staff. You have a suppressive aboard. Maybe six.

Scientology, that saves lives, is a modern miracle, is being compared to bowling. Get it?

That org or portion just isn't serious. Scientology is an idle club to it, an old lady's sewing circle.”
(HCO PL 16 May 1965 Issue II INDICATORS OF ORGS)


"GET RID OF DISTRACTIONS FROM SCIENTOLOGY in your org.

SOFT SELL means vaguely maundering about your product. Example: 'Scientology sometimes makes people worry a bit less.'

Knock off the soft sell and flubbed delivery.

It's a new civilization we're after and we'll do it.”
(HCO PL 2 June 1965 ORG ETHICS AND TECH)


"We are not in the business of being good boys and girls. We're in the business of going free and getting the org production roaring. Nothing else is of any interest then to Ethics but (a) getting tech in, getting it run and getting it run right and (b) getting production up and the org roaring along.

In short, a staff member can get away with murder so long as his statistic is up and can't sneeze without a chop if it's down."
(HCO PL 1 September 1965 Issue VII ETHICS PROTECTION)


"The purpose of Ethics is:

TO REMOVE COUNTER-INTENTIONS FROM THE ENVIRONMENT.

And having accomplished that the purpose becomes:

TO REMOVE OTHER-INTENTIONEDNESS FROM THE ENVIRONMENT

The person who enters a Scientology group to then sell other-answer is of course an enemy".
(HCO PL 18 June 1968 ETHICS)


"We're not now in this for play. Our personal futures depend on keeping going and making no major flubs. It isn't a question of is there something else. There isn't. Nobody can be half in and half out of Scientology. Scientologists are Scientologists no matter what they do for a living.

The prize is regaining self and going free. The penalty for our failure is condemnation to an eternity of pain and amnesia for ourselves and for our friends and for this planet.

If we fail, we've had it. It's not just a matter of getting killed. It's a matter of getting killed and killed and killed life after life forever more.

Those guys up there mean business. We've got to match or better their energy level and dedication or we lose.

We've been given a priceless chance. We must make good. We haven't any time for doubts or maunderings.

We're the elite of Planet Earth, but that's only saying we're the not quite gone in the graveyard of the long gone.

Somehow, despite our condition and the degraded environment we're in, we've got to keep the dedication and the guts to carry through no matter what comes”.
(HCO PL 30 July 1963 CURRENT PLANNING)

“Those guys up there” refers to “aliens” of some type; some type of “planetary controllers”.


"The world has an optimistic five years left, a pessimistic two.

After that, Bang or just a whimper.

On us alone depends whether your kids will ever see sixteen or your people will ever make it at all.

Our chance is a thin chance at best.

We are working as hard as we can in Scientology".
(L. Ron Hubbard Auditor Magazine 9, 1967)


And make nothing out of the enemies who have plagued us for 200,000,000,000 years. And who, if we do not this time succeed, will plague us for 200,000,000,000 more.

THIS is our chance.

Make something of it".
(Excerpt from HCO INFO LETTER, February 25, 1962 It Can be Done)


In this time and in this place - for possibly just a little while, we have a chance. To go free and to make it. Planets and cultures are frail things. They do not endure.

I strongly advise you work hard at it - don't waste this brief breath in eternity.

For that is your future - eternity".
(LRH ED 342 From Clear to Eternity 9 May 1982)


The previous references written by L. Ron Hubbard are just a sampling of the repeated type messages that a Scientologist hears, and reads on a continual basis. This indoctrination is incessant. The previous quotes are often compiled into a single folder by recruiters and sales staff to use as a tool for “hard-sell” on their jobs. People, who believe such things, can more easily be coerced to join organizations, pay money for services, pay money for books, pay money for defense, and contribute time. The above references by Hubbard are often used to "get a person's reality up" on the vital importance and severity of the Scientology mission.

 

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People who completely consider and believe that they are the saviors of Mankind for all eternity do not view the world the same way as most other people. I can guarantee that the clerk at the local grocery store, the computer repairman, the local real estate company owner or the CEO of a major automobile corporation do not wake up each day wondering what they will do to help ensure the future eternity of Mankind. Dedicated Sea Org members and Scientology staff do wake up considering these things. In fact, in alignment with LRH policy, they take these things very seriously. They take great efforts to present themselves as "normal" folks, just like you and your neighbor, but that is far from the truth. While any person can "look" normal, it is only by their thoughts and ideas, by their beliefs, that you can truly know them.

When you finally understand that the active Scientology Church member firmly believes these things, then it can begin to make sense for you just how a staff member can work fourteen hours a day or more, for months at a time without any time off, and tolerate a meager allowance of $50 per week or less. It also begins to make sense how they will go after any perceived enemy with everything they have got, utilizing endless funds and resources, and never stopping until they have destroyed or neutralized the perceived threat. I mean, would you want to die a horrible death over and over forever? What would you do if you could avoid that horrible future? This doom and gloom mentality is an integral part of the mindset. They believe, completely, that they will suffer horribly for all eternity unless they succeed with their efforts in Scientology. That might seem hard to imagine for the reader, but unless you understand this you will fail to accurately comprehend the severity and seriousness with which they view their mission. The degree of seriousness at the top is brutally and unconditionally serious, and this attitude is heavily pushed down all avenues of Scientology Church control.

Note: There is nothing wrong with believing anything, and I have no problem with anyone believing anything they choose. But, when beliefs directly influence a person's or group's actions and behavior, in a way that harms others, then I begin to have a great concern for the beliefs. And, if your belief requires that you lie on a continual basis, or set up innocent people in phony crimes (i.e. Paulette Cooper, Gabe Cevarez), then your beliefs become very questionable indeed.

Always keep in mind that to them, in their minds, the survival and success of Scientology is absolutely vital and necessary if there is to be any future for anyone ever again at any future time. They truly believe that without the subject of Scientology, its techniques, the organization and its continual expansion that there will probably not be any future for any of us ever again. What they do and how they do it can begin to make sense only once you really understand this. Within their structure of belief, life in any form, at any future time, and in any future area ultimately depends only on their success or failure as a public or staff Scientologist. In their minds, everything, and I mean everything, hinges on the mission of Scientology and its unequivocal success or failure. They believe this completely. It is ingrained into their personal belief system through endless repetition and constant unified peer agreement.

Scientology isn't like some version of Christianity, such as a sect of Protestantism, where you can accept some ideas, ignore other ideas, and still be a part of that Christian Church with differing or watered-down views. There is no allowable “watered-down view”. There is only one way, best understood as “my way or the highway”. Again, Hubbard makes it clear that in Scientology "never permit an open-minded approach". There is no such thing as "halfway" in Scientology. It is entirely and only "all or nothing". There is absolutely NOTHING wishy-washy or namby-pamby about Scientology staff, especially the Sea Organization staff who sign a “one billion year contract” as an expression of their unwavering dedication and ultra-firm commitment to realizing these goals. Some might call their behavior and actions somewhat "obsessive". These people are probably the most "serious" group of people on the planet, because they completely believe that they are the only hope and chance for any future for anyone anywhere. That view is quite severe. It tolerates nothing less than total agreement and complete commitment. It doesn't matter at all what anyone else thinks, and they grant absolutely no validity to any other religion or philosophy (although they wax endlessly about "religious freedom" and "religious tolerance" for their own public relations and organizational needs). These firmly held beliefs set the foundation upon which everything else in Scientology rests. If you keep this in mind when reading about their seemingly endless determination, ruthless intimidation of critics, and overwhelming actions taken against detractors then you will begin to understand them correctly in the proper context.

There is not a Sea Org member alive who would dispute these ideas and beliefs. Neither would almost any experienced, active member of the Church of Scientology. They all, every one, agree with them completely. If any say otherwise they are lying. Of course, for image reasons and wanting to become accepted by larger segments of society, the Church utilizes extensive public relations actions to downplay and sidestep the above beliefs, and instead concentrates upon and heavily exaggerates the importance of other aspects of the Church (i.e. education programs, crime prevention programs, drug rehabilitation programs, social betterment programs, etc.). They work very hard to be perceived as "regular folks" who are "just like you and I”. They are not that at all.

That is why some Sea Org units changed their style of uniforms; so they would be more accepted by the community. They would "fit in" better. The use of uniforms in Clearwater, and other areas, was completely examined by Church leaders insofar as how the general public reacted to the earlier paramilitary type uniforms. Then a promotional program was implemented changing the uniforms to a much more casual look solely to gain better community acceptance. It definitely had nothing to do with concern for staff comfort - the complaints of staff had gone entirely unheeded for many years prior. The final determining factor was solely one of public relations. How could the Sea Org staff look less intimidating or "strange" to the general public, and thereby increase local approval and general acceptance of Scientology. Their actions are often very contrived and manipulative, as are so many Scientology plans and actions. So, now they look more like everyone else, but do realize that their new appearances cannot fully hide their intense internal seriousness, the likes of which this world has probably never before known.

Make no mistake about it; they are not at all "regular folks" like anyone else. This dichotomy between what the leaders want the public to believe and what the truth actually is often is very wide, and shows up frequently in different facets of Scientology. In fact, public relations are a major dynamic in any Scientology-related organization, and everybody at every level is fed PR by the Church leaders. There is a never-ending activity of promotional program after promotional program designed to make the staff, scientology public and general public accept and believe what the Sea Org planners decide. The problem is that too often what they want the staff and public to believe is contrary to the actual facts of reality.

Continue reading: Belief Two

 

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Corollary Belief 1A:

Therefore, we are justified in doing anything to anyone if it safeguards our continued existence and contributes to our success. All considerations are minor compared to this. Nothing else matters, and no other person or group matters compared to this.

When something has infinite value, it justifies unlimited cost. As the thread points out, ANYTHING AT ALL can be justified in furtherance of that goal. Anything.

 

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The previous references written by L. Ron Hubbard are just a sampling of the repeated type messages that a Scientologist hears, and reads on a continual basis. This indoctrination is incessant. The previous quotes are often compiled into a single folder by recruiters and sales staff to use as a tool for “hard-sell” on their jobs. People, who believe such things, can more easily be coerced to join organizations, pay money for services, pay money for books, pay money for defense, and contribute time. The above references by Hubbard are often used to "get a person's reality up" on the vital importance and severity of the Scientology mission.
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the vital importance and severity of the Scientology mission.

KSW is an indicator of a Fall. It's fairly evident to me that Hubbard experienced an ascension. The problem with ascensions is that most do not result from erasure of case. If enough case is erased a high state will occur, but that is not what I am calling an ascension. An ascension can be described as an extreme key-out which flips a person from a negative pole to a positive one on some dual major subject like survival, affinity, existence, sources, etc. Ascensions decay because they are not achieved by erasure. As an ascension decays, the person can remember the ascension, but is tortured by the memory of what is no longer there. Tone level lowers, and seriousness increases, even frantic seriousness, this latter because the person becomes desperate to regain that state which has been lost.

Hubbard had an ascension. It decayed. He Fell. Keeping Scientology Working is a red flag pointing at that decayed state.

 

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The previous references written by L. Ron Hubbard are just a sampling of the repeated type messages that a Scientologist hears, and reads on a continual basis. This indoctrination is incessant. The previous quotes are often compiled into a single folder by recruiters and sales staff to use as a tool for “hard-sell” on their jobs. People, who believe such things, can more easily be coerced to join organizations, pay money for services, pay money for books, pay money for defense, and contribute time. The above references by Hubbard are often used to "get a person's reality up" on the vital importance and severity of the Scientology mission.

KSW is an indicator of a Fall. It's fairly evident to me that Hubbard experienced an ascension. The problem with ascensions is that most do not result from erasure of case. If enough case is erased a high state will occur, but that is not what I am calling an ascension. An ascension can be described as an extreme key-out which flips a person from a negative pole to a positive one on some dual major subject like survival, affinity, existence, sources, etc. Ascensions decay because they are not achieved by erasure. As an ascension decays, the person can remember the ascension, but is tortured by the memory of what is no longer there. Tone level lowers, and seriousness increases, even frantic seriousness, this latter because the person becomes desperate to regain that state which has been lost.

Hubbard had an ascension. It decayed. He Fell. Keeping Scientology Working is a red flag pointing at that decayed state.

It is my belief, like your own, that Ron experienced an ascension. Several in fact. Like the time he humbly confided that he was the only being in human history to "rise above the bank".

More recently Ron had another ascension. But this is where I find a very modest innacuracy in your post, which claims that Keeping Scientology Working exists only because of a failure to erase. In 1986 when LRH ascended to Target II, I think the science fully supports the fact that his presence on this planet was in fact fully erased! Nobody has seen any trace of him.

I even did an online search of police records and Ron's Bluebird motorhome has not even received one parking ticket in the past third of a century! From this we can safely concluded that Ron must have used wholetrack tech to use the Bluebird as an intergalactic transportation vehicle.


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[Ed8]

That was a 1.1 reply, HelluvaHoax. Do me a personal favor and don't interact with me, okay?

 

[Bill]

The previous references written by L. Ron Hubbard are just a sampling of the repeated type messages that a Scientologist hears, and reads on a continual basis. This indoctrination is incessant. The previous quotes are often compiled into a single folder by recruiters and sales staff to use as a tool for “hard-sell” on their jobs. People, who believe such things, can more easily be coerced to join organizations, pay money for services, pay money for books, pay money for defense, and contribute time. The above references by Hubbard are often used to "get a person's reality up" on the vital importance and severity of the Scientology mission.

KSW is an indicator of a Fall. It's fairly evident to me that Hubbard experienced an ascension. The problem with ascensions is that most do not result from erasure of case. If enough case is erased a high state will occur, but that is not what I am calling an ascension. An ascension can be described as an extreme key-out which flips a person from a negative pole to a positive one on some dual major subject like survival, affinity, existence, sources, etc. Ascensions decay because they are not achieved by erasure. As an ascension decays, the person can remember the ascension, but is tortured by the memory of what is no longer there. Tone level lowers, and seriousness increases, even frantic seriousness, this latter because the person becomes desperate to regain that state which has been lost.

Hubbard had an ascension. It decayed. He Fell. Keeping Scientology Working is a red flag pointing at that decayed state.

Interesting theory. Of course there is absolutely no evidence that Hubbard ever "ascended". Quite the contrary.

It would be interesting if you could express your theory without using Scientologese bafflegab.

 

[Ed8]

Interesting theory. Of course there is absolutely no evidence that Hubbard ever "ascended". Quite the contrary.

It would be interesting if you could express your theory without using Scientologese bafflegab.

Not sure how to completely avoid scientologese when the subject is KSW as an indicator of condition. I'll give it a shot, using a Hindu term:

KSW is an indicator of a Fall. It's fairly evident to me that Hubbard experienced an ascension. The problem with ascensions is that most do not result from increased awareness. If enough mindstuff (negative chitta) is awared a high state will occur, but that is not what I am calling an ascension. An ascension can be described as an extreme increase in awareness which flips a person from a negative condition to an extremely positive one on some dual major subject like survival, affinity, existence, sources, etc. Ascensions decay because they are not achieved by doing anything to aware (verb) mindstuff into non-existence. As an ascension decays, the person can remember the ascension, but is tortured by the memory of what is no longer there. Positivity of emotion lessens and turns to negative ideas; and also seriousness increases, even frantic seriousness, this latter because the person becomes desperate to regain that state which has been lost.

Hubbard had an ascension. It decayed. He Fell. Keeping Scientology Working is a red flag pointing at that decayed state.

Is that better for you, Bill?
Ed

 

[Bill]

Not sure how to completely avoid scientologese when the subject is KSW as an indicator of condition. I'll give it a shot, using a Hindu term:

KSW is an indicator of a Fall. It's fairly evident to me that Hubbard experienced an ascension. The problem with ascensions is that most do not result from increased awareness. If enough mindstuff (negative chitta) is awared a high state will occur, but that is not what I am calling an ascension. An ascension can be described as an extreme increase in awareness which flips a person from a negative condition to an extremely positive one on some dual major subject like survival, affinity, existence, sources, etc. Ascensions decay because they are not achieved by doing anything to aware (verb) mindstuff into non-existence. As an ascension decays, the person can remember the ascension, but is tortured by the memory of what is no longer there. Positivity of emotion lessens and turns to negative ideas; and also seriousness increases, even frantic seriousness, this latter because the person becomes desperate to regain that state which has been lost.

Hubbard had an ascension. It decayed. He Fell. Keeping Scientology Working is a red flag pointing at that decayed state.

Is that better for you, Bill?
Ed

Well, that is certainly more readable. Thanks.

What part of KSW makes you think Hubbard "ascended" and "fell"? To me, KSW was Hubbard's turning point from "self-help" guru to cult leader. I don't see what you read into it.

 

[pineapple]

I even did an online search of police records and Ron's Bluebird motorhome has not even received one parking ticket in the past third of a century! From this we can safely concluded that Ron must have used wholetrack tech to use the Bluebird as an intergalactic transportation vehicle.

Kind of like Elijah's chariot, or Santa's sleigh.

 

[Ed8]

Well, that is certainly more readable. Thanks.

What part of KSW makes you think Hubbard "ascended" and "fell"? To me, KSW was Hubbard's turning point from "self-help" guru to cult leader. I don't see what you read into it.

His early material is recognizable to me as coming from someone who had experienced an ascension. It is pure 'recognition' on my part. As for Falling, I explained that already: a move into negativity, which it appears to me you also recognized, as a move from self help guru to cult leader. That move certainly indicates to me his decayed condition. KSW is a horror.
I am a bit puzzled that you don't seem to understand scientologese; this is an ex-scn group, you're here, but you don't seem to sling the lingo. ;-)

 

[Bill]

His early material is recognizable to me as coming from someone who had experienced an ascension. It is pure 'recognition' on my part. As for Falling, I explained that already: a move into negativity, which it appears to me you also recognized, as a move from self help guru to cult leader. That move certainly indicates to me his decayed condition. KSW is a horror.
I am a bit puzzled that you don't seem to understand scientologese; this is an ex-scn group, you're here, but you don't seem to sling the lingo. ;-)

It isn't that I don't understand Scientologese, it's that I think Scientologese locks a person into Scientology-cult-think -- that is: It stops thinking. When one attempts to translate Scientology terms into real world terms, it can help clarify thoughts -- and uncover bad, illogical thinking.

 

[Enthetan]

KSW is an indicator of a Fall. It's fairly evident to me that Hubbard experienced an ascension. The problem with ascensions is that most do not result from erasure of case. If enough case is erased a high state will occur, but that is not what I am calling an ascension. An ascension can be described as an extreme key-out which flips a person from a negative pole to a positive one on some dual major subject like survival, affinity, existence, sources, etc. Ascensions decay because they are not achieved by erasure. As an ascension decays, the person can remember the ascension, but is tortured by the memory of what is no longer there. Tone level lowers, and seriousness increases, even frantic seriousness, this latter because the person becomes desperate to regain that state which has been lost.

Hubbard had an ascension. It decayed. He Fell. Keeping Scientology Working is a red flag pointing at that decayed state.

That's a reality that you regard as being true for you.

The reality that many of us here subscribe to, is that there was no ascension to fall from -- that it was all a con from the beginning, and that LRH never achieved any OT abilities, either in himself or by auditing others.

You are free to disagree. And we are free to maintain our opinions.

 

[programmer_guy]

@Ed8

I am curious if you have done any reading in particular areas of neuroscience that have to do with the topics of neurotransmitters in the brain.

(BTW, in the past, I have mentioned endorphins but that is only one type of neurotransmitter.)

I understand that this thread topic is a sociological item.
I am just asking Ed8 because of the content of what Ed8 said.
(IOW, I am not trying to derail this thread topic.)

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

That was a 1.1 reply, HelluvaHoax. Do me a personal favor and don't interact with me, okay?

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Please be patient with me. I am basically a good thetan who has been implanted with a bad valence.

It's just that my valence thinks that Scientology is a hoax and that causes my reactive mind to not treat it seriously, which keys in banky jokes and also restimulates reactive satire.

I know that there is no justification for my 1.1 Joking & Degrading about Scientology, which has been scientifically proven to be "mankind's only hope". I recently re-read all of Ron's RESEARCH AND DISCOVERY volumes and re-listened to every one of Ron's audio lectures and he never once mentions how a fully trained OT VII like myself should still be at the deplorable 1.1 tone level. Can you offer any insight?

Do you mind if I inquire what your own training and case and tone level is? I am sure it's echelons higher than my own and quite ideal!

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ps: it's not possible on a discussion board to prevent others from reading and interacting with you. That's the point of a discussion board. That leaves you with 3 alternatives. 1. Set up your own BLOG and block all discussion and comments. 2. Hit the "IGNORE" button for HelluvaHoax!. It works just like Ron's 100% standard disconnection tech! 3. Clay demo the word "discussion" and write an essay on how discussions are different than lectures.

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[freethinker]

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Please be patient with me. I am basically a good thetan who has been implanted with a bad valence.

It's just that my valence thinks that Scientology is a hoax and that causes my reactive mind to not treat it seriously, which keys in banky jokes and also restimulates reactive satire.

I know that there is no justification for for my 1.1 Joking & Degrading about Scientology, which has been scientifically proven to be "mankind's only hope". I recently re-read all of Ron's RESEARCH AND DISCOVERY volumes and re-listened to every one of Ron's audio lectures and he never once mentions how a fully trained OT VII like myself should still be at the deplorable 1.1 tone level. Can you offer any insight?

Do you mind if I inquire what your own training and case and tone level is? I am sure it's echelons higher than my own and quite ideal!

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ps: it's not possible on a discussion board to prevent others from reading and interacting with you. That's the point of a discussion board. That leaves you with 3 alternatives. 1. Set up your own BLOG and block all discussion and comments. 2. Hit the "IGNORE" button for HelluvaHoax!. It works just like Ron's 100% standard disconnection tech! 3. Clay demo the word "discussion" and write an essay on how discussions are different than lectures.

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That first line was priceless.

Scientology discussion, it just brings people together in such a warm and fuzzy way that can't be mistaken.

 

[Bill]

Hubbard had an ascension. It decayed. He Fell. Keeping Scientology Working is a red flag pointing at that decayed state.

One hint for posting here. When you declare absolutes, like the above, you are likely to face some push-back. This forum is not like Scientology. In Scientology, it was common for people to simply declare something is so. Hubbard led the way on that. For us ex-Scientologists, this is annoying.

Here, we question and doubt -- and don't particularly tolerate arbitrary declarations of "this is so". Hence, the push-back you've experienced.

It might be better received if your theories were prefaced with "I think..." or "I've decided...".

 

[freethinker]

One hint for posting here. When you declare absolutes, like the above, you are likely to face some push-back. This forum is not like Scientology. In Scientology, it was common for people to simply declare something is so. Hubbard led the way on that. For us ex-Scientologists, this is annoying.

Here, we question and doubt -- and don't particularly tolerate arbitrary declarations of "this is so". Hence, the push-back you've experienced.

It might be better received if your theories were prefaced with "I think..." or "I've decided...".

There is something here to what Bill says. You have to back up your dogma or it will gain little traction but much noise.

Edit: I should have prefaced with Confucius say...

 

[HelluvaHoax!]

One hint for posting here. When you declare absolutes, like the above, you are likely to face some push-back. This forum is not like Scientology. In Scientology, it was common for people to simply declare something is so. Hubbard led the way on that. For us ex-Scientologists, this is annoying.

Here, we question and doubt -- and don't particularly tolerate arbitrary declarations of "this is so". Hence, the push-back you've experienced.

It might be better received if your theories were prefaced with "I think..." or "I've decided...".

Nicely said.

Frankly, I am clueless what that poster means by "Hubbard had an ascension". Until this moment I just assumed that he was using that word allegorically--and thus interpreted his meaning to be that Hubbard "rose above homo sapiens" and became an Operating Thetan.

But now I question what he thinks that word means.

In plain English, "The Ascension" refers very specifically to Jesus being taken by God up to Heaven.

During his life on Earth Hubbard actually spoke on one of his lectures about his personally having visited "Heaven". It's an HCOB as well. He describes it as a tattered, second rate and worn-out looking. So Ron came back to earth.

All of this stuff is so unhinged, does anyone have a clue what the poster is trying to say by claiming that Hubbard had "an ascension"?

I am generally cynical of new posters who begin briefing everyone on Ron's hagiographical bona fides. I find it hard to imagine that anyone would come to an EX SCIENTOLOGY website to convert the infidels. But then again, weird things happen around cults.

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