The Danny Masterson Trial thread

I know several of you guys have made posts about my post....regarding not putting up any defense....

Here is my reply.... But no need to get into a discussion about it....

IF Danny knew that he had zero witnesses that he could put on the Stand to refute the rape charges....then why did he and his wife....and friends ....and COS expect him to win the Case....? Why was it a shock...?

And if he knew that he wasn't going to win the Case.....then why didn't he flee the Country?

How could he think he would win?

Once the Drugging information was allowed into testimony in the second Trial.....he should have been on a plane.

He must have been overly duped by his Lawyers....and COS.......?

Or just egotistical......in his rightness?
Hi - I think he told them all it was an attempt to get money from him, the sex was consensual or something along those lines. Certainly not having drugged so many women (minimum of 10 per Aaron)

I think however there's another side to this.

He was accused of jack hammering, some were in pain or bleeding from their ansus', he'd spit on one and called her white trash. His donkey punch moniker. The no touch the hair rule. Expecting sex whenever he wanted it. Aggressive sex.

What's up with all that?

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He was accused of jack hammering, some were in pain or bleeding from their ansus', he'd spit on one and called her white trash. His donkey punch moniker. The no touch the hair rule. Expecting sex whenever he wanted it. Aggressive sex.

What's up with all that?

thanks for that. i think he's definitely a pathological personality -- as many rapists are, especially serial ones. and there are reports, which would fit with that, that his family of original including even his mother have odd if not twisted attitudes about women and sexuality; and his wife Bijou is from one of the most dysfunctional and perverse Hollywood backgrounds imaginable.

i think rape is one of those things where it is hard for normal people who wouldn't do it, to understand the deviant minds of the sort of people who would. as hopefully we've all heard, it's often more about power than sex; victims may be very unattractive, and even quite old.

this is a fairly well accepted set of categories of different type of rape.

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Danny Masterson entirely lacks the capability to "throw all of Scientology under the bus".

Yeah, plus imagine how it would look if he tried to do it now ;)

Danny Masterson: "Erm... Leah Remini was right. Scientology sucks balls!"
STAND League: "Newsflash! Convicted serial rapist joins Leah Remini in her campaign of vicious and bigoted lies!"
 
who would you call? The CC President's son? Would he lie for Danny and say Yep, he asked her, I heard her say Hey Danny, let's knock it out? Would he come across as believable? Who else could you call? Jason Schwartz? IJC? Would they stand up under cross examination?

You know, IF it was me in Davey's shoes and IF I wanted to be an asshole and take a calculated risk to save Danny's ass (which I honestly wouldn't even if I was in charge of the cult btw, I'd just let him sink and be done with him as fast as possible), then I'd do it like this:

- I'd get former female friends of the Jane Does. Then I'd have them falsely testify under oath: "Well, me and Danny were having sex in the 2000s. Jane Doe knew about it, so she later came to me and asked me to lie and testify that Danny raped me, so we could shake him down for cash. I told her no. I didn't come forward before, because I didn't want people to know that we were having sex with Danny. But now that he was convicted, I guess I have no choice cuz otherwise an innocent man will go to prison. So yeah, it's all a set-up."

I guess if the cult gave Cohen 2-3 witnesses to testify that they knew it was a set-up. that could nullify the Jane Doe testimonies for the jury. Basically the jury could go: "Heck, all these scientology women are crazy and they al contradict one another. We dunno what is the truth, so we will just go with reasonable doubt and not convict him."
 
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You know, IF it was me in Davey's shoes and IF I wanted to be an asshole and take a calculated risk to save Danny's ass (which I honestly wouldn't even if I was in charge of the cult btw, I'd just let him sink and be done with him as fast as possible), then I'd do it like this:

interesting theory.

i could also see them doing that for internal propaganda purposes in order to try to mitigate any damage -- sort of like the 'inch wives' on TV.
 
You know, IF it was me in Davey's shoes and IF I wanted to be an asshole and take a calculated risk to save Danny's ass (which I honestly wouldn't even if I was in charge of the cult btw, I'd just let him sink and be done with him as fast as possible), then I'd do it like this:

- I'd get former female friends of the Jane Does. Then I'd have them falsely testify under oath: "Well, me and Danny were having sex in the 2000s. Jane Doe knew about it, so she later came to me and asked me to lie and testify that Danny raped me, so we could shake him down for cash. I told her no. I didn't come forward before, because I didn't want people to know that we were having sex with Danny. But now that he was convicted, I guess I have no choice cuz otherwise an innocent man will go to prison. So yeah, it's all a set-up."

I guess if the cult gave Cohen 2-3 witnesses to testify that they knew it was a set-up. that could nullify the Jane Doe testimonies for the jury. Basically the jury could go: "Heck, all these scientology women are crazy and they al contradict one another. We dunno what is the truth, so we will just go with reasonable doubt and not convict him."
2020 vision? Or wishful thinking? I can see SO members falling on the sword like that, but the public? Echhhh
 
I can see SO members falling on the sword like that, but the public? Echhhh

Well, as a former inv member (gee, I do like to flash these credentials as of late, don't I? ;) ) I am quite sure I could find many staff begging to be the one to fall on the sword.

There would be quite a few public too. You just need to know who has a lot to lose.
 
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What an awkward drugged out mess.

Maybe Scientology helped her by getting rid of the drugs.

But then drugs was replaced by a wickedly deranged cult and and a sadistically psychopathic serial rapist.

Is that really an improvement?

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i am expecting he will be having his attorneys make quite the case about why he should be let out while his appeal proceeds. i would assume that's not very likely given that the judge already decided he should go straight to jail, though maybe an appeals court itself might reverse that and order him released while things ran their course -- but i don't know how likely that is, either.

it will also be interesting to see if he can put on another big money litigate-everything appeal, or if his resources and those footing the bill are not up for another 7-figure round. thinking about it, it seems to me like it would be a win for DM to fund a successful appeal, that could then be used to claim that productive high status members are being persecuted wrongfully in the low level wog justice system -- further justification even, for the CC's having protected people and continuing to do so.
I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up with a new legal team, saying Cohen and Holly screwed up my defense and try an appeal on that basis.

Mimsey
 
I wouldn't be surprised if he shows up with a new legal team, saying Cohen and Holly screwed up my defense and try an appeal on that basis.

Mimsey
Maybe he can present the alibi that while his body was there for the rapings, he was actually somewhere else, being exterior with full perceptions.
 
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Maybe he can present the alibi that while his body was there for the rapings, he was actually somewhere else, being exterior with full perceptions.

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LOL

Alternatively, he could tell the judge that he already handled the rapes in session and doesn't have any more charge on it.

Or, if that doesn't work, he could tell the judge that "going to prison really doesn't indicate".

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This sounds like the most survivable scenario for Danny, and the easiest for Miscavige to quietly arrange.
I'm no NOI expert. But I imagine the actual NOI convicts over there will have really strong feelings if they get orders to defend Masterson. Remember that these people have been taught all their lives that white people are an evil inferior race and that rape is a great sin. So if Farrakhan orders them to protect this white rapist, this could cause a crisis of faith for some of them and they might end up leaving the cult and joining real Islam. The latter isn't hard to do in prison.
 
I'm no NOI expert. But I imagine the actual NOI convicts over there will have really strong feelings if they get orders to defend Masterson. Remember that these people have been taught all their lives that white people are an evil inferior race and that rape is a great sin. So if Farrakhan orders them to protect this white rapist, this could cause a crisis of faith for some of them and they might end up leaving the cult and joining real Islam. The latter isn't hard to do in prison.
And yet you have NoI members following the tech of White Devil Hubbard and the guidance of White Devil Miscavige.

The NoI would not have to be pals with Danny, just protect him from being assaulted or murdered, in exchange for payment.

Danny didn't rape any NoI women, as far as I know. Just some White Devil women. Do you think the average NoI member cares about white women being abused?
 
And yet you have NoI members following the tech of White Devil Hubbard and the guidance of White Devil Miscavige.
Hilarious, isn't it?


Danny didn't rape any NoI women, as far as I know. Just some White Devil women. Do you think the average NoI member cares about white women being abused?
Care? No.
Care about their own self-image with protecting this sort of rich white boy so Farrakhan can get his hands on some CoS lucre? Possibly.
 
Hilarious, isn't it?



Care? No.
Care about their own self-image with protecting this sort of rich white boy so Farrakhan can get his hands on some CoS lucre? Possibly.
Oh, I'm sure Farrakhan will share some $$$ with the NOI prison gang leader, in order to get his enthusiastic compliance
 
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