Veda
Well-known member
To be realistic, the reasonable sounding explanation above is the public statement. Deeper into Scientology, it changes somewhat.I actually agree that, for example, Tony Ortega's recent story about the Scientologist who jumped from the building was crude, distasteful and potentially hurtful. (I say "potentially" only because I can't imagine that any of the deceased's family members will learn of, much less read, the story; it would be a different matter if he wrote for a publication with a general audience like The Daily Beast.) I would not have written the story in the same manner. Having said that, I certainly don't agree that Tony is a "SP."
I am an ex-Scientologist. I no longer believe in SP doctrine. I did, however, certainly study it at great length when I was in Scientology. One thing that I recall, and just confirmed, is that Scientology teaches:
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The identification or labeling of an antisocial personality cannot be done honestly and accurately unless one also, in the same examination of the person, reviews the positive side of his life.
All persons under stress can react with momentary flashes of antisocial conduct. This does not make them antisocial personalities.
The true antisocial person has a majority of antisocial characteristics.
The social personality has a majority of social characteristics.
Thus, one must examine the good with the bad before one can truly label the antisocial or the social.
In reviewing such matters, very broad testimony and evidence are best. One or two isolated instances determine nothing. One should search all twelve social and all twelve antisocial characteristics and decide on the basis of actual evidence, not opinion.
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As noted by Hubbard's editor and confidante, John Sanborn, who was standing next to Hubbard when the first SP Declare was issued, it was a dictatorial system used to instill fear, to assert control and domination, and to stigmatize.
And no, that is not an invitation to discuss and debate twelve characteristics for Tony. That would not be useful, and indeed would also be crude, distasteful and hurtful. We will have to agree to disagree. I just wanted to point out that "isolated instances determine nothing" and "one must examine the good with the bad."
I completely understand about the OT and NOTs material. That is why I warned you. I didn't want to refer you to a thread and cause you to see material of that nature that you weren't ready to see or didn't want to see.
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