Sex, Spies and VideoTape

[guanoloco]

That means that Kennedy, who bagged Marilyn Monroe - equivalent to Sydney Sweeney today, was also having sex with an 11-year old. Put an 11-year old up against Marilyn Monroe or Sydney Sweeney.

Johnson, then, is having sex with someone between 12 and 17...

That means that in a world of political warfare where impropriety ends a career every single President is doing this...even Bush, but, since he's a pedophile, presumably she's too old. So, then, it's him with her daughter.

Now, I would think that career people at this echelon would be savvy enough to elude a honeypot trap - but, hey, every single President.

She's 12 in 1963 so she's 42 when Clinton gets in office - seems to be past his target in years.

So, she's 34 in 1985 "recovering" these memories...4 years later and thereabouts Bush is having sex with her daughter and 8 years later and after she's having sex with Clinton - all while in therapy - like the CIA wouldn't know that she's compromised as a result.

 

[Hatshepsut]

LSD is a cluster-making agent. It can be used to get the person to 'reframe' things too. It might also pervade through substructures, making aggregates, and capture all into a single emotion, expression, pain or viewpoint. Children are not yet totally identified with the eclectic elements of the milieu they've descended into. I think some are still connected to the higher consciousness.

The False Purpose Rundown was claimed to be aimed at undoing the work of psychs. The fabiric of consciousness used by a person in assuming a new lifetime is impressionable . Why would you even Go In if not for something launching upon your vision board. A quest. A goal.

The suspicion was that some goals could be getting adopted with undo influence and without any real inspection. What ignites that spark of life should ideally, be self-determined, right? But is it...always?. When a person crosses over and deviates from his natural goals, to those opposite, he becomes mis-identified, and his force captured. The spirit-quanta has been absorbed by what he really wants to move away from.

Every idea gets it's substantiation as part of a pair or opposites. This is insidious. To remain fixed, items network automatically in juxtaposition. The politicians know this just same as psychs. It keeps a game in play and creates the elan vital. Sex may be used to float to a magical wavelength where consciousness is malleable, and impressionable like flypaper; where programming can be subverted or overwritten. It's why MK-Ultra chose teenagers, indigenous and children. Possibly, they weren't solidly locked into this network. Psychic predators were hunting for a portal.

Artwork commissioned by Hubbard to represent OT VIII depicts collection points. tractoring many individual awarenesses; collapsing them into this time stream.....here on Earth. It may all be his rehash of 1952, but he never let go the grudge and remained a die hard.

 

[Zertel]

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"The suspicion was that some goals could be getting adopted with undo influence and without any real inspection. What ignites that spark of life should ideally, be self-determined, right? But is it...always?"

That opens the door to lots of occult observations and speculation. The simplicity would be the expectation and conviction that "I" as individual consciousness continues.

 

[Hatshepsut]

The ideas could cover occult and everyday stuff.

I listened to this therapist, Rebecca Mandeville, yesterday. She is doing in-depth work similar to de-PTSing the type 3. She is a non-Scientologist, but it's evident she's had exposure to the technology.

She surgically takes apart cumulative layers of wrong indications, and implied beingnesses, and destroying agreements which others agree to ply you with. She goes after the real life consequences of such and spots incorrect ownership and the actual causal influences that kicked off life patterns and 'hats' experienced later. The scapegoat is always told he did it to himself or brought it on or deserved the resulting changes in his life. This is a 'family systems' programs therapy. She gets the intentions behind a gaslighting network, and tracks back to an opinion leader She also discovers why the leader of the cluster has the power to enslave the rest to their personal universe view. I experience chunks of myself coming dislodged and shifting around while listening to her.

For a wog, she has done extensive work over 30 years penetrating how a person gets their self view. She dives deeper in discovering motives of those in the family unit who will not let the client move on to some winning roles. She also searches down how the scapegoating sabotage is accepted all the way to distant parts of the family you've not much to do with. She can find some enforced identities that were never correct. Lastly she is aware of beams of intentions and why narcissists need to destroy any aware person in the group who sees their games as.....just that. Enforced projections and capture of attention and admiration.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtube.com

This therapist has many shorts with different titles. They are clipped from longer podcasts. She has a website that invites you to participate in group research.. it's a deprogramming. It's a great tool for EXIT COUNSELORS helping people out of cults. This is because you get the client to spot agreeing to the bamboozle and also identity taken as solution to the overwhelm.. She digs deep. Scientology can bury and steal a person's real self and supplant it with their own acceptable purposes. It gang bangs and encourages others to enjoin in projecting stigma upon anyone declared 'a loser' who is not participating with the group goals.

 

[guanoloco]

Here's some more batshit to ponder.

If she's 12 in 1963 then her birth year is 1951. Bob Hope is 48 years old in 1951 and 60 years old in 1963.

Bob Hope was into chorus girls, leading Hollywood starlets and all that. Pin ups and buxom babes - all adults. The idea that some 50 to 58 year old is buying pre-pubescent child sex slaves is an extraordinary claim requiring...wait for it...extraordinary evidence.

Of which, absolutely none exists.

While most of those Presidents had extramarital affairs they were all with adult women - and with the exception of Clinton, consensually - meaning none of them were accused of any improper advances except for Clinton, whether true or not. Nixon, Carter and Reagan have zero allegations of stepping outside of their marriages.

 

[I M Dex]

The ideas could cover occult and everyday stuff.

I listened to this therapist, Rebecca Mandeville, yesterday. She is doing in-depth work similar to de-PTSing the type 3. She is a non-Scientologist, but it's evident she's had exposure to the technology.

She surgically takes apart cumulative layers of wrong indications, and implied beingnesses, and destroying agreements which others agree to ply you with. She goes after the real life consequences of such and spots incorrect ownership and the actual causal influences that kicked off life patterns and 'hats' experienced later. The scapegoat is always told he did it to himself or brought it on or deserved the resulting changes in his life. This is a 'family systems' programs therapy. It's a gang bang and a search for who the opinion leader is. She also discovers why the leader of the cluster has the power to enslave the rest to their personal universe view. I experience chunks of myself coming dislodged and shifting around while listening to her.

For a wog, she has done extensive work over 30 years penetrating how a person gets their self view. She dives deeper in discovering motives of those in the family unit who will not let the client move out of the fixed roles. She also searches down how the scapegoating sabotage is accepted all the way to distant parts of the family you've not much to do with. She'll find find the enforced identity that was never correct. Lastly she is aware of beams of intentions and why narcissists need to destroy any aware person in the group who sees their games as.....just that. Enforced projections and capture of attention and admiration.

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

youtube.com

This therapist has many shorts with different titles. They are clipped from longer podcasts. She has a website that invites you to participate in group research.. it's a deprogramming. It's a great tool for EXIT COUNSELORS helping people out of cults. This is because you get the client to spot what goals and purposes and identity they agreed to take on. And also those unknowingly accepted and taken on after overwhelm.. She digs deep. Scientology can bury and steal a person's real self and supplant it with their own acceptable purposes. It gang bangs and encourages others to enjoin in projecting stigma upon anyone declared 'a loser' who is not participating with the group goals.



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Did you really just say "for a wog"? Damn, I think I'm having flashbacks.

 

[Hatshepsut]

Did you really just say "for a wog"? Damn, I think I'm having flashbacks.

Yes, the vocabulary available to pick from starts playing hard to get past a certain age. I could use a thesaurus but I'd set it down and never find it again.

 

[Hatshepsut]

Here's some more batshit to ponder.

If she's 12 in 1963 then her birth year is 1951. Bob Hope is 48 years old in 1951 and 60 years old in 1963.

Bob Hope was into chorus girls, leading Hollywood starlets and all that. The idea that some 50 to 58 year old is buying pre-pubescent child sex slaves is an extraordinary claim requiring...wait for it...extraordinary evidence.

Of which, absolutely none exists.

While most of those Presidents had extramarital affairs they were all with adult women. Nixon, Carter and Reagan have zero allegations of stepping outside of their marriages.

Bob with my favorite rocket scientist, Hedy Lamarr. They were tight.


I dont' think he ever got starved enough to go looking for kids.

 

[guanoloco]

Does everyone remember Blaisey Ford during Kavanaugh's hearings?

She had "recovered memories" of an incident that no one else - not even the people she named, such as her best friend, remember. Also, she cannot locate the details in time or geographically - meaning the date or year it occurred or the residence. The entire incident existed entirely within her "memory".

False memory syndrome

False memory syndrome was proposed to be the result of recovered memory therapy, a scientifically discredited form of therapy intended to recover memories. Originally conceptualized by the False Memory Syndrome Foundation, the organization sought to understand what they understood as a general pattern of behaviors that followed after a patient underwent recovered memory therapy and to come up with a term to explain the pattern.[6] The most influential figure in the genesis of the theory is psychologist Elizabeth Loftus.​

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Malpractice cases​

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During the late 1990s, there were multiple lawsuits in the United States in which psychiatrists and psychologists were successfully sued, or settled out of court, on the charge of propagating iatrogenic memories of childhood sexual abuse, incest, and satanic ritual abuse.[33]​

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Some of these suits were brought by individuals who later declared that their recovered memories of incest or satanic ritual abuse had been false. The False Memory Syndrome Foundation uses the term retractors to describe these individuals, and has shared their stories publicly.[34] There is debate regarding the total number of retractions as compared to the total number of allegations,[35] and the reasons for retractions.​

The time frame for this episode being detailed here on this thread perfectly matches when this all came to a head in the U.S. court system where families were destroyed over these false allegations...prompting this very entry in Wokepedia.

All of this False Memory Syndrome centered around "recovered memories" of previous sexual abuse that was unknown to ever exist prior.

 

[guanoloco]

Regarding these false memories and recovered memories, without digging in too deep, it appears that this is primarily a female thing. If so, this goes hand-in-hand, with:

Rape fantasy

Prevalence among genders​

Numerous studies have found that fantasies about being forced to have sex are commonly found across all genders.[3] 45.8% of men in a 1980 study reported fantasizing during heterosexual intercourse about "a scene where [they had] the impression of being raped by a woman" (3.2% often and 42.6% sometimes), 44.7% of scenes where a seduced woman "pretends resisting" and 33% of raping a woman.[8]​

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A 1998 study in the Archives of Sexual Behavior which surveyed 137 female undergraduate students aged 18 to 40 found that 40% had at some time had a fantasy where they were "overpowered or forced to surrender". This was lower than the population who had had a fantasy where they imagined "having sex in a public or semipublic place" (57%) but higher than the number who had had fantasies where they imagined themselves "as a striptease dancer‚ harem girl‚ or other performers" (35%). The population that reported these fantasies and were "very likely to act out that fantasy" was 6%. Among women who said they had had a rape fantasy in the past, the average frequency of their experience was three times a month.[6]​

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In contrast a study published in The Journal of Sex Research from 2009 using a survey of 355 undergraduates, 81% of whom were between the ages of 18 and 21 indicated that "62% of women have had a rape fantasy". It found that over the entire population sampled 32% had not had a rape fantasy, 49% had had a rape fantasy once a month or less, and 14% had had rape fantasies once a week or more.[2]​

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In a more recent study among more than 4,000 Americans, 61% of female respondents had fantasized about being forced to have sex; meanwhile, the numbers were 54% among men.[3​

It would be interesting to see the prevalence of which gender is "recovering" these memories.

In just a brief perusal here's what pops up:

Founded in March 1992 by Pamela and Peter Freyd, after their thirty-three year old daughter Jennifer Freyd accused her father of sexually abusing her as a teenager.​

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J.A. Walker claimed the FMSF reversed the gains made by feminists and victims in gaining acknowledgment of the incestuous sexual abuse of children.[22] Responding to this criticism the Foundation stated, "Is it not 'harmful to feminism to portray women as having minds closed to scientific information and as being satisfied with sloppy, inaccurate statistics? Could it be viewed as a profound insult to women to give them slogans rather than accurate information about how memory works'".[23] S.J. Dallam criticized the foundation for describing itself as a scientific organization while undertaking partisan political and social activity.​

AI Overview



Sensational recovered memory cases of sexual abuse gained prominence in the 1980s and 1990s, often leading to high-profile legal battles and significant controversy surrounding the nature of memory, particularly the potential for both genuine recovery and false implantation through therapeutic techniques
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Notable cases include:

• Cardinal Joseph Bernardin Accusation: In 1993, Stephen Cook filed a $10 million lawsuit against the Archbishop of Chicago, Joseph Bernardin, after recovering memories of alleged abuse using hypnosis. The case garnered massive media attention. Cook later dropped the lawsuit and recanted his claims, stating he no longer believed they were true, though he never claimed the Cardinal didn't touch him.
• The Ramona Case (Ramona v. Isabella): Gary Ramona successfully sued the therapists of his daughter, Holly Ramona, on the charge that they implanted false memories of sexual abuse in her mind, leading to a breakdown in their family relationship. This was a landmark case, the first instance of a non-patient bringing a malpractice suit of this type, which highlighted the potential for suggestive therapeutic practices to create false memories.
• The McMartin Preschool Trial: This protracted legal case, which began in the 1980s, involved multiple children who made extensive allegations of sexual abuse and Satanic ritual abuse against the school's operators. The accusations were made using controversial interview techniques, including anatomically correct dolls and leading questions. Most charges were eventually dropped or resulted in acquittals, as the trial testimony was often contradictory and concerns were raised about the reliability of the methods used to elicit the memories.
• Celebrity Cases: Actresses like Roseanne Barr and former Miss America Marilyn Van Derbur publicly shared their stories of recovering memories of childhood sexual abuse, often on the covers of national magazines. These high-profile personal accounts helped fuel the national conversation about the reality and prevalence of recovered memories.

Then there's this:

AI Overview



While both men and women have recovered memories of sexual abuse, sensationalized cases have historically involved women due to societal and historical factors, including early theories about female hysteria and trauma, the focus on women in early research, and the fact that women are often the subjects of studies on sexual abuse
. In many of these cases, the memories were recovered during adulthood and have been described as controversial, with debates on the veridicality of the memories versus the possibility of them being implanted or influenced by suggestibility.


Factors contributing to the focus on women

• Historical context: Early theories, such as those from Charcot, Freud, and Breuer, often focused on hysteria in women and a link to sexual abuse, which created a lasting framework for understanding trauma in women.
• Societal perceptions: Women's experiences of abuse and their ability to report it have historically been met with skepticism, and social and patriarchal structures can influence how abuse is perceived and understood.
• Research focus: Many studies have focused on women and childhood sexual abuse, leading to a body of literature that centers their experiences and the phenomena of recovered memories.

The debate over recovered memories

• Veridicality: Proponents of recovered memories argue that traumatic events, like childhood sexual abuse, can lead to memory repression and that the memories can be recovered spontaneously or through therapy.
• False memories: Critics argue that some recovered memories may not be accurate and could be influenced by suggestive therapeutic techniques or social dynamics.
• Suggestibility: Some research has shown that individuals with recovered memories might be more susceptible to "false recognition" in memory tests.
• Debate and controversy: The debate over recovered memories involves complex issues of memory, trauma, and the role of psychotherapy, which have resulted in lengthy trials and ongoing professional disagreement.

 

[guanoloco]

I was going to waste some time trying to review some of the more sensational stories - I remember one family, in particular, where they were destroyed over this material - possibly with the father doing jail time, can't remember - but every one of these that I read about, again - this was some time ago, was a female accuser. So, I was going to spend some time digging into it just to see if there's any gender prevalence...

Can't today but this would be interesting to look at.

Again, it was a pattern that I noticed a long time ago and it appears to be the same pattern footprint that is coming out.

 

[guanoloco]

Here's some more batshit to consider:

Taylor says Hope loaned her out to such luminaries as Henry Kissinger and every president after Eisenhower except for Carter and the elder Bush​

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Bob Hope is 90 - 98 years old when Clinton is in office and he dies two years later.

I find it preposterous that Bob Hope, in his 90s, is lending out a 42 - 50 year old sex slave. It's just ridiculous.

 

[Hatshepsut]

We often assume identities which will get us the most attention and admiration. Sex, seems to be a way of getting the most concentrated admiration particles. Some use it to the hilt to feel validated. When it is used abusively to destroy the person’s sense of worth, those who suffered trauma often look to outside help in gettin it back.

The times have shown those with biggest ego or need for repaired self worth, will get into the news. When I see Cosby or Weinstein, I feel for the young girls who traded for a leg up. When they later married well and climbed to the top, garnering huge validation and salaries, there was the devil to pay. But, young starlets were doing what a girl had to do to get ahead. They often regretted bowing to those who had the power when they didn’t.

I read an article a while ago which stated many gay men had fantasies of being adored or ravished as a young boy. Is this the attention identity, and a strong need to be cherished? Many gay older men still affect that ‘boy’ stance. Best admiration they ever got. Of course, politicians do the same thing. It’s just part of what they assume will most unquestionably get you to adore them. After all, their mothers did.

I had read all the Charlie Chaplin biographies and his court cases too. He’d been sued twice for relations with someone too young. He’d lost his childhood sweetheart and seemed to want to compensate for his sorrow, I think. He had his pick of lovers and hand many, but he wanted that untouched forbidden fruit he could then mentor. He ended up marrying Paulette Goddard who had posed nude as a 13 year old for Ziegfeld Follies and then been introduced to the right company.

Charlie ended up having to marry the 12 yr old whom he got pregnant 2 yrs later. Lisa Gray. He went on to marry Oona O’Neil who was 16 when they started the affairs and stood by him during the trial for getting another young actress pregnant. He had to pay. The Press loved to trash Chaplin and to see him pay out big time. Lots of headlines were on the amount he was sued for.

 

[guanoloco]

We often assume identities which will get us the most attention and admiration. Sex, seems to be a way of getting the most concentrated admiration particles. Some use it to the hilt to feel validated. When it is used abusively to destroy the person’s sense of worth, those who suffered trauma often look to outside help in gettin it back.

The times have shown those with biggest ego or need for repaired self worth, will get into the news. When I see Cosby or Weinstein, I feel for the young girls who traded for a leg up. When they later married well and climbed to the top, garnering huge validation and salaries, there was the devil to pay. But, young starlets were doing what a girl had to do to get ahead. They often regretted bowing to those who had the power when they didn’t.

I read an article a while ago which stated many gay men had fantasies of being adored or ravished as a young boy. Is this the attention identity, and a strong need to be cherished? Many gay older men still affect that ‘boy’ stance. Best admiration they ever got. Of course, politicians do the same thing. It’s just part of what they assume will most unquestionably get you to adore them. After all, their mothers did.

I had read all the Charlie Chaplin biographies and his court cases too. He’d been sued twice for relations with someone too young. He’d lost his childhood sweetheart and seemed to want to compensate for his sorrow, I think. He had his pick of lovers and hand many, but he wanted that untouched forbidden fruit he could then mentor. He ended up marrying Paulette Goddard who had posed nude as a 13 year old for Ziegfeld Follies and then been introduced to the right company.

Charlie ended up having to marry the 12 yr old whom he got pregnant. Lisa Gray. He went on to marry Oona O’Neil who was 16 when and stood by him during the trial. The Press loved to trash Chaplin and to see him pay out big time. Lots of headlines were on the amount he was sued for.

....Chaplin ... what a salacious movie that would make.

 

[Hatshepsut]

They made many.
He actually did fall in love with the child lovers. It was Hollywood that thought he should pay dearly for the dip.

 

[guanoloco]

They made many.
He actually did fall in love with the child lovers. It was Hollywood that thought he should pay dearly for the dip.

I didn't know anything about that...just the comedy.

Here's this - fairly recent:

Documentaries

The Real Charlie Chaplin (2021): This documentary explicitly addresses the controversies surrounding Chaplin's personal life. It includes references to child sexual abuse in the context of his relationships with several underage teenage girls, one of whom (Lita Grey) fell pregnant when she was 15 and he was 35. The film discusses the allegations of emotional abuse, his legal troubles, and how these scandals affected his public image and ultimately led to his exile from the United States.

 

[Hatshepsut]

Yeah, but he was run out of town during the Red Scare where he took the boat to go live in Switzerland for the rest of his life. He was said to be a communist and whatever the gov could do to take away his reputation and power, was done to him. Seems our gov always goes after sexual blackmail to achieve its purposes.

One co-worker of mine from the 70s became the D.C. Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey who later committed suicide at her mom's in Tarpon Springs. The gov wanted to imprison her after she accused one of her political accuser clients of hypocrisy. She'd stated that her operation sold 'fantasy' that clients wanted to act out. In actuality it was her fantasy of owning a brothel being acted out. I can attest to this being her dream as young as 19 yrs old. She was 'on stage' in her role of geisha enchantress, a very different modality than the other strippers employed. Always some strange, somewhat Barbarella robot.

Sex and politics often don't mix well. I'd queried the tape where LRH inferred a wife of a high official might be 'influenced' to get into scandalous affairs to ruin him politically. Huh...who is doing this influencing. But still its this insidious mix of sex and political maneuvers. Why would some ethereal monitors care about what got into the front pages of our rags.

Convicted Washington madam found dead

The woman dubbed the DC Madam killed herself today, just weeks after she was convicted of running a prostitution ring that catered to highly placed US government officials

www.theguardian.com

 

[guanoloco]

Yeah, but he was run out of town during the Red Scare where he took the boat to go live in Switzerland for the rest of his life. He was said to be a communist and whatever the gov could do to take away his reputation and power, was done to him. Seems our gov always goes after sexual blackmail to achieve its purposes.

One co-worker of mine from the 70s became the D.C. Madam Deborah Jeane Palfrey who later committed suicide at her mom's in Tarpon Springs. The gov wanted to imprison her after she accused one of her political accuser clients of hypocrisy. She'd stated that her operation sold 'fantasy' that clients wanted to act out. In actuality it was her fantasy of owning a brothel being acted out. I can attest to this being her dream as young as 19 yrs old. She was 'on stage' in her role of geisha enchantress, a very different modality than the other strippers employed. Always some strange, somewhat Barbarella robot.

Sex and politics often don't mix well. I'd queried the tape where LRH inferred a wife of a high official might be 'influenced' to get into scandalous affairs to ruin him politically. Huh...who is doing this influencing. But still its this insidious mix of sex and political maneuvers. Why would some ethereal monitors care about what got into the front pages of our rags.

Convicted Washington madam found dead

The woman dubbed the DC Madam killed herself today, just weeks after she was convicted of running a prostitution ring that catered to highly placed US government officials

www.theguardian.com

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I confess that the extent of my Chaplin knowledge is sparse and rudimentary with the biggest part being the Scientology building that has his office in it. ITO, if I remember correctly.

 

[Hatshepsut]

Trance-Formation

I remember the Cathy O'Brien tapes and thought she was a bit over the top. She may have been in too many trances.

Cathy O'Brien

Mind Control: The Trance-Formation of America (Video 2019) - Plot - IMDb

Mind Control: The Trance-Formation of America (Video 2019) - Plot summary, synopsis, and more...

www.imdb.com

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[I M Dex]

I read a book about Chaplain's life a long time ago. What struck me was how, as a child, he lived in such abject poverty that he typically subsisted on one potato being all he had to eat over an entire day, and he grew to earn fabulous wealth and fame and dine and socialize with heads of state. His prescient socially conscious pre-WW2 anti-Hitler film "The Great Dictator" was seized on in some extremist quarters as "evidence that he's a commie", which was ridiculous. I'm not given to theorize about his relationship particulars, interesting as they can be. I'm more fascinated with the rags-to-riches-to-censure-to-recognition story that was the arc of his life.

The Great Dictator - Wikipedia

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