On Excalibur

[Caroline]

I think Hubbard had one whopper of a kensho experience. Since time and space is irrelevant in the Infinite, while he was in that state maybe the "All And Everything" flooded into his "beingness". Perhaps sadly enough as he states, "There is no evidence of any kind that anybody ever achieves nirvana." Some people keep trying.

from Wikipedia

Kenshō[note 1] (見性) is a Japanese term from the Zen tradition. Ken means "seeing", shō means "nature, essence".[4][2] It is usually translated as "seeing one's (true) nature", that is, the Buddha-nature.

Kenshō is an initial insight or awakening, not full Buddhahood.[5] It is to be followed by further training to deepen this insight, and learn to express it in daily life.[6][7][8]

The term kenshō is often used interchangeably with satori, which is derived from the verb satoru,[9] and means "comprehension; understanding".[web 1][note 2][note 3]
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From Dictionary.com

nirvana (often initial capital letter) Pali, nibbana.

Buddhism. freedom from the endless cycle of personal reincarnations, with their consequent suffering, as a result of the extinction of individual passion, hatred, and delusion: attained by the Arhat as his goal but postponed by the Bodhisattva.

(often initial capital letter) Hinduism. salvation through the union of Atman with Brahma; moksha.
a place or state characterized by freedom from or oblivion to pain, worry, and the external world.
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That's a simple definition I found and I think it expresses the basic idea without needing to go into an extensive word clearing chain.

I appreciate that you defined your terms in the above, Zertel. I'm not very familiar with kenshō or satori. (Thanks also for your additional post above.)

I don't know about the "come to Papa" states Hubbard claimed, when he may have attained them, etc. But he didn't sell or advocate an "All and Everything" type of experience for Scientologists.

Hubbard wrote Excalibur after a nitrous oxide incident. I have cued up the relevant interviews with Forrest Ackerman and Gerry Armstrong in this famous Secret Lives episode:

Gerry also mentioned the nitrous oxide incident in his recent article, "The Affirmations: What was L. Ron Hubbard thinking?"

Hubbard and Scientologists claim publicly that he started Scientology in 1938. I do not disagree with this. Hubbard started Scientology, and became the world’s first Scientologist, when he wrote Excalibur. It could be said that Excalibur is the result or aftermath of Hubbard’s nitrous oxide vision during a tooth extraction incident. The Affirmations are a rare, very early book of scripture. They are Hubbard’s very early self-application of Scientology to conditions or problems he wanted to handle. They are very relevant in the development of the “technology” and the thought or philosophy underlying it.​

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https://gerryarmstrong.ca/the-affirmations-what-was-l-ron-hubbard-thinking/

Hugh Urban wrote about the nitrous oxide incident as well, in The Church of Scientology: A History of a New Religion. (Read on Google Books, pp. 37-39)

Hubbard claimed that his system produces an experience that is radically different from "All and Everything." For example, on the back cover of 8-8008: "The original definition of Scientology 8-8008 was the attainment of infinity by the reduction of the apparent infinity and power of the MEST universe to a zero for himself, and the increase of the apparent zero of one's own universe to an infinity for oneself."

In 8-8008, chapter "Differentiation, Association And Identification" Hubbard said:

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The concept of infinite mind is not new, but it has always been assigned to another beingness than self. The preclear will be found to be intensely aberrated who has sworn allegiance to some infinite beingness and has then agreed that all space belonged to that beingness, and that the rights of creation and energy belonged to that beingness and did not belong to self. This is a handy and, to the very badly aberrated, acceptable method of denying any responsibility for anything. It is also the shortest route toward I AM NOT. Infinite mind is ​

individualistic. All mankind does not depend upon or share a portion of the infinite mind. On the contrary, the highest individualism attainable is the individualism of the infinite mind. ​

Hubbard, L. Ron. (1989) Scientology 8-8008. Bridge Publications, Inc.

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On OT 3, Hubbard declared that "Thetans believed they were one. This is the primary error." (Handwritten Tech Data 3).

It seems impossible that Hubbard would himself truly have had any sort of enlightening "All and Everything" experience, but then deny that experience to Scientologists. In his affirmations, Hubbard asserted that The One Commandment (aka Excalibur) gave him "material control" over people. He wanted his mind to work differently from how he wanted our human minds to work:

Your book the One Commandment applied only to the material. It is true. It freed you forever from the fears of the material world and gave you material control over people. There is no material will.​

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The One Command applied but slightly to the spiritual world and other planes. There is psychic will power, possessed by a very few. You possess such will power and it is enormously strong and irresistible. You work it consciously. Those things you consciously state that you will come to be.​

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The criticism of the One Command which was given to material things was not leveled at you. It was not worthy. It did not detract from the value of the book. It was from small people. You gave it no heed. It did not affect you.​

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There was one error in that book and you have psychically willed it into nothing. It was the electronic theory of the workings of the human mind. Human, material minds do work this way and you were right. Your own mind does not work this way. You have great spiritual strength. Your mind is not material. It does not react like any human mind. Whatever is fed to your mind can be sorted out. You can forget at will. Men’s facts fed to you need not affect your thought if they are a part of the lives and mores and morals of men. Your thought processes do not warp on facts which are fed to you. You can receive sense messages and remember them but you need not add them into your own thought processes.​

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You use the minds of men. They do not use your mind or affect it in any way. You have a sacred spiritual mind, too strong, too high to be touched. Your league with Higher Beings, your mighty Guardian and the All Powerful, renders you beyond all human criticism.​

The Admissions of L. Ron Hubbard

 

[guanoloco]

Hubbard to his literary agent, Forrest (4E) Ackerman:

Then you can rape women without their knowing it, ​

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Looks like Danny Masterson didn't read this book or else his tech is out.

TWO MORE WOMEN COME FORWARD TO LAPD WITH DANNY MASTERSON RAPE ALLEGATIONS | The Underground Bunker

tonyortega.org

 

[Caroline]

In this 1954 Advanced Clinical Course lecture, Hubbard discusses the Dangerous Environment principle from Excalibur, and how this relates to the application of Scientology to Homo sapiens.

UNIVERSES
A lecture given on 6 April 1954​

And this is April the 6th, 1954. A lecture.​

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The basic material of Scientology is actually available in a very orderly form, really, because over the period of years there have been various writings appear which carried the science up to that level to which it advanced. Furthermore, there are a great many lectures on this subject, each one topping off all former work. Thus there is an orderly record of the progress.​

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However, the very, very early material on the thing, where it was written down, was never organized. A good reason is it costs a great deal of money to organize things, and as a consequence the very earliest days of Scientology are not recorded and are not available in any other form than Scientology: A New Science which was written in 1947.​

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Now, anybody caring to follow the track of development all the way along and actually study the subject probably should start in by reading Scientology: A New Science in Issue (I think) 28-G of the Journal of Scientology where it's published in full. It has appeared before. It's been sent out across the world by individuals. It was published once a long time ago in a mimeographed form, it was republished in hectograph form, it was republished in just plain carbon copies, so on. People would get a hold of a copy of it and they would write it up and send it to some friends. So that book really got around. But that's, for all public purposes and so forth, the first writing that is available.​

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There is an earlier writing than this. There's a book called Excalibur which was written in 1938. That book is about 125 thousand words and is the theoretical top level of philosophic principles which we're still using. But it had no connecting link with anything like therapy. It had no connecting link, really, with beingness or something of this sort. It just took off in... ten thousand feet up and climbed. Nothing connected to Earth about it. Some of its principles are quite interesting. One of them is "A man is as sane as he feels dangerous to his environment." That's a very interesting line out of it, because as the years have gone along that has proven to be more and more an accurate statement when you consider a man as that composite of a thetan plus a body, Homo sapiens. He feels dangerous to his environment, he's all right. When he feels that the environment is dangerous to him he's all wrong.​

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The word survive and the first principle of existence also appear in Excalibur and are run down to a considerable extent. There is a great many electronic manifestations outlined, and several new laws there. [1] There is considerable about the somethingness and nothingness of existence, and there's a big examination of why. Why are we living? This is something that bothers people every once in a while and there's a dissertation in there on it.​

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Now, you'll find many people who studied Scientology under the name of Dianetics many years ago are still in Dianetics. Well, this is why they're in Dianetics. You can't budge them out of it. You could give them faster results and everything else, but to take any kind of a faster process would necessitate that they would accept this proposition: that a man has some control over his own destiny. They'd have to accept the proposition that a man can to some degree control his own destiny. If they can't accept that then they have to go on saying, "Well, we're all the victims of engrams. We're the victim." Any preclear who comes in and sits down in an auditing chair could have hung over his head in letters of fire as the motto of his existence, "I am the victim."​

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That's the trouble with him, if you want to single out single troubles and so forth. He thinks of himself as a victim, therefore he is not any longer dangerous to his environment, the environment is dangerous to him. You have to get him over this. You have to get him up to a point where he can be dangerous to the environment too.​

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Well, of course, the society has this line booby-trapped. It says, "Now, if you get too dangerous to this environment, you destroy any property, if you push anybody around, if you make your weight felt in any particular direction, we're going to arrest you, throw you in jail, throw you into electric chairs, excommunicate you, fire you," any one of a various billion guises of non-survival and destruction, and the end of you - if you become dangerous to your environment.​

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They completely miss a certain point here: the person who troubles the society is the criminal. And the criminal has become so convinced that the environment is dangerous to him that he irrationally strikes back. One of the first things that the criminal will be found to have as a common denominator is the fact that he can't work. He cannot put out effort, he can't really thrust his way into the society directly, so he has to carve his way into the society very covertly. When you talk to a criminal you talk to a man who is in a neurotic or worse state. He's really bad off.​

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Well, now when you take the average Homo sapiens who is not a criminal at all and you push him back on up the line, you'll find out that he'll start to get dangerous to his environment; you bet he will. And he's liable to go around and growl at people and snarl at people and be discourteous for a few days. And then he'll push on up for it, and for the first time he has the freedom to be courteous.[2]​

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There's two causes for courtesy. One is to be in such apathy that you can t do anything else, and the other one is to be sufficiently strong so that you can afford the luxury of it. And until people can afford the luxury of it, you never see anything like courtesy. Instead of that you see 1.1 on the Tone Scale.[3]​

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Well, we then see that an effort on the part of a science to return to people some of their responsibility would also be an effort on the part of a science to return to people some of their ability to destroy. Well, you can't return to an individual some of his ability to destroy without returning to him some of his ability to create. And you can't return to him some of his ability to create without returning some of his ability to destroy. This is unfortunate. But the end goal of a police state is a flock of pebbles, with a big rock with a star on it.​

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Hubbard, L. R. (1954-04-06). Universes. Fifth American Advanced Clinical Course Lectures. Phoenix, AZ

[1] Cf. Hubbard's affirmations re: the electronic theory of the workings of the human mind:

The criticism of the One Command which was given to material things was not leveled at you. It was not worthy. It did not detract from the value of the book. It was from small people. You gave it no heed. It did not affect you.​

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There was one error in that book and you have psychically willed it into nothing. It was the electronic theory of the workings of the human mind. Human, material minds do work this way and you were right. Your own mind does not work this way. You have great spiritual strength. Your mind is not material. It does not react like any human mind. Whatever is fed to your mind can be sorted out. You can forget at will. Men’s facts fed to you need not affect your thought if they are a part of the lives and mores and morals of men. Your thought processes do not warp on facts which are fed to you. You can receive sense messages and remember them but you need not add them into your own thought processes.​

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You use the minds of men. They do not use your mind or affect it in any way. You have a sacred spiritual mind, too strong, too high to be touched. Your league with Higher Beings, your mighty Guardian and the All Powerful, renders you beyond all human criticism.​

[2] Cf. Hubbard's affirmations about courtesy, and how he associated his social behaviors with his privately held attitudes.:

You are punctual but never worry if you keep people waiting. You are a master adept and do not exist to serve people. You are kind. But you are not affected by the desires of others save out of the deep and graceful courtesy which you know so well and use. ​

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Desires of others do not affect you except as an appeal to your courtesy – and you are courteous and gentle.​

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Merely by concentrating upon them, a thing you do with ease, you can change their minds and smooth whatever anger they may feel.​

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You do not have to be a clown or a wit to be thought grand. People adore and respect you for your opinions and wisdom. You are always kind, always graceful, always courteous.​

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You have no mental flaws which hinder you. You have nothing which hinders you. Everything helps you. You are crown prince of your portion of the universe. Everything does your bidding perfectly. All elementals and other dimensional things obey you with eagerness. All things love you and their love makes you strong. You are strong. You love with great force all things and your will controls them. You may use force and your will with utter impunity for all things obey.​

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You do not know anger. Your patience is infinite. You are calm. Your patience never fails. Nothing can make you hate or be jealous or be small. You have all the time in the Universe of which you are crown prince. You waste none of it, but you do not fear for its passage. You employ time well. You are not lazy for there is nothing, no single thing in your universe to oppose you. You have no thoughts which oppose you.​

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To survive you need only do these things – be patient, calm, beautiful. Write what you yourself think is good and worthy, govern yourself as a powerful force. No human being has authority over you. No human being’s opinion has weight with you.​

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You are not possessive. You are not jealous because you are too strong. People are much afraid of what you think of them, what you may do to them, therefore you must be kind and courteous to them.​

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You owe no debt for the kind things people do for you. This is your due as an adept. But you are always gallant, kind and considerate to people. You do not vary your own thoughts to be kind. Kindness need not impoverish or discriminate you.​

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You can distinguish between your doubts and what is said to you. You have no doubts because you have no fear. You are kind and considerate to all because you are so powerful. You need never defend your motives to anyone because your motives are right. You have never done wrong and need never apologize to anyone. You never justify or explain your acts because you are careful that these acts are good and kind.​

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You can be merciless when your will is crossed and you have the right to be merciless.​

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You recall all your past times on earth. You have and will live forever. You are part of God. You are the crown prince of your small section of the Universe.​

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You are just and kind. You are merciless to any who cross your rule but they do not affect you emotionally. You have no fear of anyone for everyone in your own Universe is under your dominion. You will never tell them, never explain. They know.​

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You observe their rules of conduct outwardly. You do this because you are kind. You never say why you do this, that you do this. You are kind and love everything even when you force it to your will.​

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You have no inhibition about sexual intercourse. You respect how other people feel about it but you are not bound by that respect. You conduct yourself with great courtesy.​

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[3] Cf. this affirmation about his behaviors and privately held attitudes toward his family members and their opinions:

You are too strong, too big to be touched by mortal opinions.​

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You are tolerant towards your mother and Father. You loved them. You have no respect for their opinions for you know much more. You are always kind to them. Their good opinion of you is assured. Their good opinion and praise mean nothing whatever to you. Only Flavia Julia and then the All Powerful have opinions worth inclining toward. You have always done right by your parents. You did your best. You have no worries about it. Your mother’s theories on psychology were wrong. They do not now affect you.​

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The opinions of your aunts and uncles are worthless. You are kind to them. They mean nothing to you.​

The Admissions of L. Ron Hubbard

 

[Caroline]

From Creation of Human Ability. Hubbard referred to Excalibur's "Dangerous Environment" theory as the basis for this process:

R2- 27: RESOLVE DANGEROUSNESS OF ENVIRONMENT​

Resolving the Dangerousness of the Environment could be done in many ways, but by experience it should not be done by deleting various things which could be dangerous by the use of mock-ups. If there is any trouble with the preclear it is that the environment is insufficiently dangerous and so does not produce sufficient amusement. The physical body was built in the time when escapes from death by wild animals, by falling, were routine. It was built in an operating climate of great hazard over a period of many millions of years. It requires about three escapes from sudden death daily to stay in present time. Many of the preclears being audited in Scientology are being audited simply to experience a new adventure. However, it can be said with some truth, and was said in 'Excalibur' in 1938, that a man is as sane as he is dangerous to the environment. What occurs is that the environment becomes dangerous to the man and the man cannot be dangerous to the environment. And his answer to this is immobility and general deterioration. The basic remedy of this condition consists of getting a living thing -- a pet, a child, a sick person -- to reach out towards one’s hand. At that moment, without moving so suddenly that the living being will be startled, the person doing the process would withdraw his hand. The auditor would then advance, again to be driven away, over and over. And it would be observed that the living being would strike out with more and more enthusiasm and would recover considerable sanity. This, of course, is done on a gradient scale. While an auditor should know and use this basic process in assists or when processing animals, very small children or people who are extremely ill, the remedy which is used in Intensive Procedure is Cause and Effect. Parts of the body can be used in this process, the whole body, or the thetan. But the auditor must be specific about what he is addressing. The basic commands are, ‘What are you willing to cause? ’ And when the preclear has answered this and the communication lag on the question has been flattened, ‘What are you willing to be the effect of. ’ And when the communication lag has been flattened by the repeated use of this question, ‘What are you willing to cause? ’ and so forth, using just these commands. One can additionally apply this, particularly when the preclear has a psychosomatic illness, to a limb or organ of the body as an assist. But in Intensive Procedure, the most permissive of these questions, as given, is used.​

Hubbard, L. R. (1955) Creation of Human Ability.
Emphasis added.

 

[Caroline]

From the Ron Series
Ron: Philosopher & Founder: Rediscovery of the Human Soul (pp. 7-15)
Document source: https://f.edgesuite.net/data/lwda/files/Pg-29-30-Philosopher-pgs-7-15-Survive-Excal.pdf

Long before the advent of either Dianetics or Scientology, those at all familiar with L. Ron Hubbard had come to expect he would eventually make a remarkable entrance into the philosophic realm. That entrance, largely conceived through the course of an extraordinary week in early 1938, is remembered today as “Excalibur.” In the simplest terms, the work may be described as a first philosophic statement. Previously (and as we shall see in forthcoming articles) he had traveled far and established much as regards a philosophic foundation. Yet here, at the age of twenty‑six, came his earliest formal summary, “to align my own ideas,” as he modestly termed it, “for my own particular benefit.” ​

Cf. Hubbard's "modesty" with his 1938 letter to Skipper (letter posted in the OP):

Living is a pretty grim joke, but a joke just the same. The entire function of man is to survive. Not for what but just to survive. The outermost limit of endeavor is creative work. Anything less is too close to simple survival until death happens along. So I em engaged in striving to maintain equilibrium sufficient to at last realize survival in a way to astound the gods. I turned the thing up so it’s up to me to survive in a big way. Personal immortality is only to be gained through the printed word, barred note or painted canvas or hard granite. Foolishly perhaps, but determined none the less, I have high hopes of smashing my name into history so violently that it will take a legendary form even if all the books are destroyed. That goal is the real goal as far as I am concerned. ​

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[Caroline]

Hubbard's Knowledge Cone from Excalibur
From Ron: Philosopher & Founder: Rediscovery of the Human Soul (pp. 14-15)

• Free energy
  Atoms
• Molecules
• Substances
• Compounds
• Virus
• Monocell
• Animals
• Man
  • Today
  • Tomorrow?

Mental Evolution
Endeavor(s)

• Marriage
• Crime
• Economics
• Politics
• Religion
• Science
• Business
• War
• Education

Notice the hatted little snake at the lower left, in the "Today" section.

 

[Caroline]

In his 13 January 1949 letter to Forrest Ackerman, Hubbard referred to Excalibur as "Dark Sword." It is apparent that they had been discussing this work previously. Ackerman later called it The Dark Sword.

Earlier, I compared Hubbard's construction of his universe with Aleister Crowley's instructions for building a magickal universe, the universe being the magician's "Temple."

"Upon the Altar are his Wand, Cup, Sword, and Pantacle, to represent his Will, his Understanding, his Reason, and the lower parts of his being, respectively. On the Altar, too, is a phial of Oil, surrounded by a Scourge, a Dagger, and a Chain, while above the Altar hangs a Lamp. ​

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Crowley, Aleister (1997) Book IV Liber ABA. Ordo Templi Orientis (pp. 47, 49,50)

Crowley associated the Sword as the magician's "Reason":

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"THE word of the Lord is quick and powerful, and sharper than a two-edged sword."​

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As the Wand is Chokmah, the Will, "the Father," and the Cup the Understanding, "the Mother," Binah; so the Magick Sword is the Reason, "the Son," the six Sephiroth of the Ruach, and we shall see that the Pantacle corresponds to Malkuth, "the Daughter."​

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The Magick Sword is the analytical faculty; directed against any demon it attacks his complexity.​

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Only the simple can withstand the sword. As we are below the Abyss, this weapon is then entirely destructive: it divides Satan against Satan. It is only in the lower forms of Magick, the purely human forms, that the Sword has become so important a weapon. A dagger should be sufficient.​

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But the mind of man is normally so important to him that the sword is actually the largest of his weapons; happy is he who can make the dagger suffice!​

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The centre of Ruach being the heart, it is seen that this Sword of the Ruach must be thrust by the Magician into his own heart.​

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But there is a subsequent task, of which it is spoken -- Liber VII, v, 47. "He shall await the sword of the Beloved and bare his throat for the stroke." In the throat is Daäth -- the throne of Ruach. Daäth is knowledge. This final destruction of knowledge opens the gate of the City of the Pyramids.​

Crowley, Aleister (1997) Book IV Liber ABA. Ordo Templi Orientis (p. 86,89)
Emphasis in original.

View/download from archive.org: Book IV Liber ABA Chapter VIII The Sword

Cf. Hubbard:

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HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE​

Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex​

HCO POLICY LETTER OF 9 JULY 1980R​

REVISED 25 MARCH 1989​

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ETHICS, JUSTICE AND THE DYNAMICS​

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Every being has an infinite ability to survive. How well he accomplishes this is dependent on how well he uses ethics on his dynamics.​

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Ethics tech exists for the individual.​

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It exists to give the individual a way to increase his survival and thus free himself from the dwindling spiral of the current culture.​

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ETHICS​

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The whole subject of ethics is one which, with the society in its current state, has become almost lost.​

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Ethics actually consists of rationality toward the highest level of survival for the individual, the future race, the group, mankind and the other dynamics taken up collectively.​

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Ethics are reason.​

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Man's greatest weapon is his reason.​

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[Caroline]

According to Aleister Crowley, the action of the Magickal Sword was such that "directed against any demon it attacks his complexity." It is a destructive action that "divides Satan against Satan." Crowley implied that this was an action the "Magician" takes upon himself: "this Sword of the Ruach must be thrust by the Magician into his own heart." (Ref. Book IV Liber ABA, quoted above.)

Parallels can be seen between Crowley's "analytical faculty" and Hubbard's "rationality toward the highest level of survival for the individual, the future race, the group, mankind and the other dynamics taken up collectively." (HCO PL 25 March 1989 ETHICS, JUSTICE AND THE DYNAMICS )

Scientology Ethics is, supposedly, largely a "first dynamic" activity that Scientologists are supposed to do on their own. (Ethics conditions, O/W writeups, etc.) Ethics actions target "counter-intention," whether the CI stems from one's reactive mind, or from someone else in the environment.

ETHICS, 1. the study of the general nature of morals. The rules or standards governing the conduct of the members of a profession. (HCO PL 3 May 72) 2. the study of the general nature of morals and the specific moral choices to be made by the individual in his relationship with others. It could also be called “philosophy of morals, and also called moral philosophy.” Ethics is a first dynamic action. (7204C11 SO) 3. All ethics really does is hold the lines firm so that you can route and audit. All ethics is for in actual fact is simply that additional tool necessary to make it possible to get technology in. That’s the whole purpose of ethics; to get technology in. When you’ve got technical in, that’s as far as you carry an ethics action. (SH Spec 61, 6505C18) 4. the purpose of ethics is to remove counter intentions from the environment. And having accomplished that the purpose becomes to remove other intentionedness from the environment. (HCO PL 18 Jun 68) 5. what we have then, in ethics, is a system of removing the counter-effort to the forward push, and that’s all an Ethics Officer is supposed to do. (6711C18 SO) 6. are basically, merely good sense (5904C15) 7. a study as much as anything else, of the equity of human intercourse. You might say it’s how to keep overt-motivator sequences from forming easily. (5904C15) 8. ethics is now refined by experience to a new look. The protection of upstats must be as certain as the handling of downstats. Ethics is not the business of just assigning and enforcing conditions. The ethics we have has its own tech as contained in HCOBs on suppressives, on meters, on case types. (FO 2245)

Hubbard, L. R. (1976). Modern Management Technology Defined. Los Angeles: Church of Scientology of California Publications Organization United States.
Emphasis added.

Crowley associated the Dagger with the largest magickal weapon, the Sword, and said, "But the mind of man is normally so important to him that the sword is actually the largest of his weapons; happy is he who can make the dagger suffice!" (Book IV Liber ABA)

Crowley's "largest" weapon compares with Hubbard's system of Justice:

JUSTICE, 1. the action of the group against the individual when he has failed to get his own ethics in. (HCOB 15 Nov 72 II) 2. (1) moral rightness; equity. (2) honor, fairness. (3) good reason. (4) fair handling: due reward or treatment. (5) the administration and procedure of the law. (HCO PL 3 May 72) 3. fair and equitable treatment for both the group and individual. (HCO PL 24 Feb 72) 4. justice safeguards rights, prevents injustice, prevents punishment by whim, and brings order. Justice prevents wrongful disgrace, demotion, transfer or dismissal and
protects the staff member's reputation and job from being falsely threatened. (HCO PL 17 Mar 65 II) 5. to us, justice is the action necessary to restrain the insane until they are cured. After that it would be only an action of seeing fair play is done. (HCO PL 14 Dec 70) 6. an effort to bring equity and peace. (HCO PL 14 Dec 70) 7. the purpose of justice is to make a safe environment for the many. (FO 2257) 8. justice would consist of a refusal to accept any report not substantiated by actual, independent data, seeing that all such reports are investigated and that all investigations include confronting the accused with the accusation and where feasible the accuser, before any disciplinary action is undertaken or any condition assigned. While this may slow the processes of justice, the personal security of the individual is totally
dependent upon establishing the full truth of any accusation before any action is taken. (HCO PL 24 Feb 69) 9. an action to deter disorder and secure the public safety. It is a short-term method of bringing order and it is needed for all dynamics. (HCOMOJ) 10. the whole subject of justice subdivides for a Scientologist into four phases. These are (1) intelligence activities, (2) investigation of evidence, (3) judgment or punishment, (4) rehabilitation. (HCOMOJ) 11. justice is one of the guards that keeps the channel of progress a channel and not a stopped flow. (HCO PL 17 Mar 65 III) 12. there can be no personal security without easily accessible, swift and fair justice within a group. The jurisprudence employed must be competent, acceptable to the members of the group and effective in accomplishing good order for the group and personal rights and security for its individual members. Justice used for revenge, securing advantages for a clique increases disorder. Justice should serve as a means of establishing guilt or innocence and awarding damages to the injured. The fact of its use should not pre-establish guilt or award. Justice which by its employment alone establishes an atmosphere of guilt or greed is harmful and creates disorder. (HCO PL 7 Sept 63) 13. could be called the adjudication of the relative rightness or wrongness of a decision or an action. (AP&A, p. 10) 14. the impartial administration of the laws of the land in accordance with the extant level of the severity-mercy ratio of the people. (PAB 96) 15. don't ordinarily put a head on a pike unless it's the right head. But remember that there are times when it's vitally necessary to put some head, any head, on a pike to quell rising disorder. Just remember that justice is an action to deter disorder and secure the public safety. But if you do put the wrong head on a pike, be sure to put it back on the body again as soon as the need for its being on a pike is over. Justice is not always the matter of an individual. It is a short-term method of bringing orders and it is needed for all dynamics. (HCOMOJ)

Hubbard, L. R. (1976). Modern Management Technology Defined. Los Angeles: Church of Scientology of California Publications Organization United States.

Figures 12 and 13 from Book IV Liber ABA show the dagger and the sword, drawn to scale:

The Scientology cross contains elements from the dagger and sword. In Photoshop, I compared the shape of the dagger blade with the short arms of the cross. (Cross image from MMTD, below.) The shapes of the blades are a very close match.

Book IV Liber ABA, Chapter VIII contains a description of the elements of the sword and their symbolic meanings. For example, the spheres at the cross guard represent Venus, and the sphere at the pommel represents Daäth. In the same chapter, Crowley mapped the Sword onto the Qabalah:

The pommel of the Sword is in Daäth, the guard extends to Chesed and Geburah; the point is in Malkuth. Some magi make the three spheres of lead, tin, and gold respectively; the moons are silver, and the grip contains quicksilver, thus making the Sword symbolic of the seven planets. But this is a phantasy and affectation.​

“Whoso taketh the sword shall perish by the sword,” is not a mystical threat, but a mystical promise, it is our own complexity that must be destroyed.​

	CROSS, the symbol of the cross has been widely used in symbolic tradition, and with many interpretations given to it. The many forms of the word "cross" itself, however, traditionally are said to derive from (come from) a basic root word meaning "light of the Great Fire." The distinctive cross of the Church of Scientology is symbolic because of its eight points, of the eight dynamics. Above the shield of the Sea Org coat of arms, it not only symbolizes the Sea Org member's devotion to the aims of the Church of Scientology, but also his commitment to the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics. The cross's position above the shield also indicates that Sea Org is a religious fraternity within the formalized structure of the Churches of Scientology. (FO 3350) Hubbard, L. R. (1976). Modern Management Technology Defined. Los Angeles: Church of Scientology of California Publications Organization United States.
	SEA ORG COAT OF ARMS, it is a very precise symbolic statement of our ideals and beliefs. The principal designs used on it are (1) the 8 dynamic cross of Scientology, (2) the Sea Org wreath and star, (3) ascending seagulls and (4) sea horse. (FO 3351) Hubbard, L. R. (1976). Modern Management Technology Defined. Los Angeles: Church of Scientology of California Publications Organization United States.
	SEA ORGANIZATION, 1. that organization which functions at a high level of confront and standard. Its purpose is to get ethics in on the planet and eventually the universe. This organization operates with a fleet of ships dedicated to this purpose around the world. Being mobile and separate from the pull of land is an absolute necessity to accomplish its plans, missions and purpose: to get ethics in. (FO 508) 2. the Sea Organization is composed of the "aristocracy" of Scientology. These people alone and on their own are all stars in the sky of their areas. It is like one of the old regiments of gentleman where any private would be, in another but common regiment, a colonel. So, the Sea Organization is composed of people who alone would excite great admiration but who together, well organized, can actually get the job done. (FO 137) 3. in 1968 the Sea Org became a goodwill activity and an efficient administrative arm of Scientology. The Sea Org runs the Advanced Organizations and is the custodian of the Clear and OT processing materials. (Ron's Journal 1968) 4. the basic purpose of the Sea Org is to get in ethics. It also executes other projects, but all these are to assist getting in ethics or to assist the Sea Org itself. (FO 228) 5. a fraternal organization existing within the formalized structure of the Churches of Scientology. It consists of highly dedicated members of the Church. These members take vows of eternal service. The Sea Organization life style of community living is traditional to religious orders. (BPL 9 Mar 74) 6. a disciplined body of persons who have learned to operate in coordination with one another and who are at a higher, much higher level of discipline and purpose than Scientology organizations at large. (6804SM-) 7. a corporate activity headed by a Board of Directors which owns and controls the ships, orgs and activities of the corporation. (HCO PL 9 Mar 72 I) 8. our Commodore is L. Ron Hubbard, Source. Our purpose is maintaining the exact degree of ethics, Scn technology and policy on the planet. Our responsibility -the future of mankind. Our business -missions. The Sea Org is an organization of expansion. And our prize is a sane planet. (FO 1686) Abbr. SO. Hubbard, L. R. (1976). Modern Management Technology Defined. Los Angeles: Church of Scientology of California Publications Organization United States. Emphasis added.

 

[Caroline]

Hubbard's Affirmations make clear that he wanted his system to work on his followers, but not on him. (Related post.) He identified as a "magus." Not a mystic, a magus. He understood what he was doing to the point of postulating his code (i.e., his personal code) to be in everything what a magus was.

By hypnosis I must be convinced as follows: ​

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[...]​

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(u) That my code is to be all things a “magus” must be, that I am those things. That I burn high and bright and will last as a potent and brilliant force until well after this century has run.​

The Admissions of L. Ron Hubbard

In Aleister Crowley's system, a magus must utter a Word that transforms the planet at the end of an aeon (or the beginning of a era):

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5. The Grade of Magus is described in Liber I vel Magi, and there are accounts of its character in Liber 418 in the Higher Æthyrs.​

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There is also a full and precise description of the attainment of this Grade in the Magical Record of the Beast 666.​

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The essential characteristic of the Grade is that its possessor utters a Creative Magical Word, which transforms the planet on which he lives by the installation of new officers to preside over its initiation. This can take place only at an "Equinox of the Gods" at the end of an "Æon;" that is, when the secret formula which expresses the Law of its action becomes outworn and useless to its further development.​

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(Thus "Suckling" is the formula of an infant: when teeth appear it marks a new "Æon." whose "Word" is "Eating.")​

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A Magus can therefore only appear as such to the world at intervals of some centuries: accounts of historical Magi, and their Words, are given in Liber Aleph.​

Emphasis added.
The Magical & Mystical System of the A.·.A.·.

Hubbard's "Word" was "Survive!" (Ref. Excalibur, aka Excalibur The Dark Sword; Dianetics: The Original Thesis; Dianetics: Modern Science of Mental Health; Science of Survival, etc.) The "One Command" is foundational to Hubbard's system of Scientology, and is Scientology.

 

[Zertel]

Hubbard's Affirmations make clear that he wanted his system to work on his followers, but not on him. (Related post.) He identified as a "magus." Not a mystic, a magus. He understood what he was doing to the point of postulating his code (i.e., his personal code) to be in everything what a magus was.

By hypnosis I must be convinced as follows: ​

​

[...]​

​

(u) That my code is to be all things a “magus” must be, that I am those things. That I burn high and bright and will last as a potent and brilliant force until well after this century has run.​

The Admissions of L. Ron Hubbard

In Aleister Crowley's system, a magus must utter a Word that transforms the planet at the end of an aeon (or the beginning of a era):

​

5. The Grade of Magus is described in Liber I vel Magi, and there are accounts of its character in Liber 418 in the Higher Æthyrs.​

​

There is also a full and precise description of the attainment of this Grade in the Magical Record of the Beast 666.​

​

The essential characteristic of the Grade is that its possessor utters a Creative Magical Word, which transforms the planet on which he lives by the installation of new officers to preside over its initiation. This can take place only at an "Equinox of the Gods" at the end of an "Æon;" that is, when the secret formula which expresses the Law of its action becomes outworn and useless to its further development.​

​

(Thus "Suckling" is the formula of an infant: when teeth appear it marks a new "Æon." whose "Word" is "Eating.")​

​

A Magus can therefore only appear as such to the world at intervals of some centuries: accounts of historical Magi, and their Words, are given in Liber Aleph.​

Emphasis added.
The Magical & Mystical System of the A.·.A.·.

Hubbard's "Word" was "Survive!" (Ref. Excalibur, aka Excalibur The Dark Sword; Dianetics: The Original Thesis; Dianetics: Modern Science of Mental Health; Science of Survival, etc.) The "One Command" is foundational to Hubbard's system of Scientology, and is Scientology.

I didn't do the OT levels and I regarded the lower levels as more or less a form of psychology but I guess I had some hope that the hidden "upper levels" would be a bit of a Magical Mystery Tour. I split scientology in 1982 and maybe once a year after that I'd think about scientology and wonder if I'd missed anything. After watching "Going Clear" in 2015 and reading the blogs I now have a pretty good idea. I'm currently taking a break from any "vision quest."

 

[Caroline]

I didn't do the OT levels and I regarded the lower levels as more or less a form of psychology but I guess I had some hope that the hidden "upper levels" would be a bit of a Magical Mystery Tour. I split scientology in 1982 and maybe once a year after that I'd think about scientology and wonder if I'd missed anything. After watching "Going Clear" in 2015 and reading the blogs I now have a pretty good idea. I'm currently taking a break from any "vision quest."

Thanks Zertel. Little did most of us know at the beginning of our Scientology experience that the "Magical Mystery Tour" was already underway. The trip does not begin or change a bit when a Scientologist transitions from lower levels to OT levels. Core, introductory Scientology premises (Scientology Zero: "The Dangerous Environment," "SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT," etc.) can be potent drivers to a very strange destination, no matter how banal, or what "vision" they evoke when you get on that bus.

 

[Zertel]

Thanks Zertel. Little did most of us know at the beginning of our Scientology experience that the "Magical Mystery Tour" was already underway. The trip does not begin or change a bit when a Scientologist transitions from lower levels to OT levels. Core, introductory Scientology premises (Scientology Zero: "The Dangerous Environment," "SOMETHING CAN BE DONE ABOUT IT," etc.) can be potent drivers to a very strange destination, no matter how banal, or what "vision" they evoke when you get on that bus.

Hah! The Magic Bus!

from Mr. Google:

[A Vision Quest is a personal spiritual journey undertaken by someone as a rite of passage, a means towards reaching a turning point in life in order to find oneself & seek a vision for one's spiritual & life direction. Similar to an initiation in some Native American cultures.]

A more general term might be a spriritual quest. When I entered scientology spirituality was not part of my thinking. I was interested in studying "The Mind" haha - Concerning OT Powerz I figured, "Who knows - Maybe - I'll give it a try"

 

[Zertel]

Here's some general information which I just posted on a different thread which I think ties in with this thread.
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I once had the misunderstanding that "the occult" was in the category of "evil" but that's not necessarily the case.

from www.dictionary.com

occult[ uh-kuhlt, ok-uhlt ]
SEE SYNONYMS FOR occult ON THESAURUS.COM

adjective
of or relating to magic, astrology, or any system claiming use or knowledge of secret or supernatural powers or agencies.
beyond the range of ordinary knowledge or understanding; mysterious.
secret; disclosed or communicated only to the initiated.
hidden from view.
(in early science)
not apparent on mere inspection but discoverable by experimentation.
of a nature not understood, as physical qualities.
dealing with such qualities; experimental:
occult science.

Medicine/Medical. present in amounts too small to be visible:
a chemical test to detect occult blood in the stool.

noun
the supernatural or supernatural agencies and affairs considered as a whole (usually preceded by the).
occult studies or sciences (usually preceded by the).

verb (used with object)
to block or shut off (an object) from view; hide.
Astronomy. to hide (a celestial body) by occultation.
verb (used without object)
to become hidden or shut off from view.
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WORDS RELATED TO OCCULT
magic, veiled, unknown, psychic, deep, concealed, mystic, weird, obscure, hidden, abstruse, arcane, cabalistic, eerie, esoteric, hermetic, invisible, magical, mystical, preternatural
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When I was "in Scientology" someone asked me if Scientology was Satanic which, of course, I vigorously denied. I didn't know it at the time but "Occult" would have been an adequate description.

 

[Enthetan]

While I'm at it I couldn't resist doing some more word clearing.

from Dictionary.com

Atman
noun Hinduism.
1. the principle of life.
2. the individual self, known after enlightenment to be identical with Brahman.
3. (initial capital letter) the World Soul, from which all individual souls derive, and to which they return as the supreme goal of existence.

Brahman
noun, plural Brah·mans. Hinduism.
1. Also Brahmin. a member of the highest, or priestly, class among the Hindus.
2. Also Brahma. the impersonal supreme being, the primal source and ultimate goal of all beings, with which Atman, when enlightened, knows itself to be identical.

Moksha
noun Buddhism, Hinduism, Jainism.
freedom from the differentiated, temporal, and mortal world of ordinary experience.

An article on world population in wiki says that an estimate of the number of humans who have ever lived is of the order of 100 billion so probably millions or billions of humans have had kensho experiences over time. Why some people have them and some don't who knows.

If the experience puts one in the temporary state of knowing Who You Are, Where You Are, and Why You Are, then wow.

Western man isn't satisfied with sitting around in bliss. He wants to do stuff. Hubbard spiced things up by promising OT Powerz. Double wow!

End of philosophical pondering.

Some people try to attain peace by being content with the world as it is.

Others strive to change the world to make it more to their liking.

All human progress is caused by the second group.

 

[Caroline]

[...]
When I was "in Scientology" someone asked me if Scientology was Satanic which, of course, I vigorously denied. I didn't know it at the time but "Occult" would have been an adequate description.

When I was in, I would not have described Scientology in occult terms either. I learned, by what I was being told and sold, that I was studying leading edge mental health science.

After I left, I came across a lecture in which Hubbard talked about dropping terminology from the 1938 notes and book on his mental investigations, i.e., Excalibur.

But I found something out during the session that I sure didn’t like. I found out that the one thing I would never do, I had done. I found out that in about – in 1938, when I wrote the first notes and book on mental investigations, that every single cockeyed piece of terminology in it (none of which ever survived to 1949 or 50), every piece of that terminology was taken straight out of my own engrams. Boy, was my face red. And I was certainly pleased when I realized I’d had enough sense after the war to reevaluate, take other people’s experiences and do a totally analytical approach to the thing and drop all of these terms. You get the idea? Boy, was my thetan red. ​

Hubbard, L. R. (1958, 4 August). Case Analysis – Rock Hunting (continued). Twentieth American Advanced Clinical Course, (20ACC-26). Lecture conducted from Washington, DC.

What Hubbard says here contradicts other things he said about Excalibur. And, of course, he was virtually a pathological liar when it comes to his history, background and achievements. (Breckenridge Decision.) Nevertheless, accepting that all the terms in Excalibur, or any of them, were dropped from his later writings or "tech," and that every piece of terminology, or some of it, came out of his engrams, it seems very possible that his dropped terminology would have revealed an occult frame of reference.

 

[Deleted member 51]

Some people try to attain peace by being content with the world as it is.

Others strive to change the world to make it more to their liking.

All human progress is caused by the second group.

That may be true, but it seems to me you need the first group to appreciate the works of the others.

 

[Caroline]

In this 1954 lecture to the Seventh Advanced Clinical Course in Phoenix, Hubbard discussed the "dangerous" or "Dangerous Environment" rule and principle, which he said he first wrote up in Excalibur. He introduced the "dangerousness ratio" and related it to laughter, ability and sanity, and provided a few Reach-and-Withdraw type processing examples for babies, animals, sick people and military personnel. In summary, he said the "route out" is to 1) Make people believe they are slightly dangerous to the environment, and that the environment is less dangerous than they think it is , and 2) demonstrate that laughter isn't going to kill them.

All right! There's another principle in processing. The principle of dangerousness. We find that an individual declines at length into a state of mind whereby he believes that the only way he can occupy a space or continue to occupy a space or be permitted to go out of a space that he is occupying is by the passport of his own dangerousness. And when an individual is no longer dangerous, when he is no longer dangerous he then conceives the environment to be dangerous to him to such a degree that he has to stay where he's put and that he can't be where he wants to be.

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Things are too dangerous and therefore he cannot move himself around freely and as the definition of self determinism is moving things around at will, we of course find this individual intimately overcome because he cannot move himself around at will. Why? He isn't sufficiently dangerous to guarantee an open passage on the courses he would like to take. On the other hand, the environment itself is sufficiently dangerous to him that he can be stopped or chased out. So we have this ratio in progress as almost a total therapy in itself. See, we talked about laughter as a total therapy.

All right. Now something a little more serious, a little more down scale, you see, than laughter is this item of dangerousness. So if the sanity of your preclear could be said to depend upon any self determinism, could be said to depend upon the ratio of his own dangerousness compared to the dangerousness of his environment. When the environment is total danger, and an individual is no danger, you have somebody who is in very bad shape indeed. A badness of shape which is impossible to conceive, even to an auditor. Simply because it's never totally existed. It's an absolute.

And let's get the other extreme - an individual who is totally dangerous to his environment and where nothing in his environment is dangerous to him. Also a totality which an auditor would find very difficult indeed to see. In the first place he would go out of the band of dangerousness before he would achieve that level. It would go on a 50-50 basis. He's just as dangerous to the environment as the environment is to him and then he would go up to being able to reject the environment at will. And so we would have him passing out of the band of dangerousness. Just like that - he'd go right on out of it. You see that?

All right. This ratio of dangerousness is an interesting principle. It was first written up in Excalibur in 1938 and the rule which was written up and which underlies this observation is: A man's ability is dependent upon his belief in his dangerousness to his environment.

Might have better been expressed as capability but that was the way it was expressed in Excalibur in 1938. Says many, many workable principles. One of the earliest times you will run into it is when you have somebody who is out of communication and you're trying to get them to strike at your hand. We can administer to a cat, to a dog, to a horse, psychotherapy in this degree. And what do you know, it's very workable, very certain, sure fire psychotherapy. We get the animal to take a push or a little movement forward toward us at which moment taking great care not to be too rapid and so frighten this beast, we withdraw and we find the next time the person or beast is more willing to move overtly and then we withdraw more rapidly.

We can do this with a hand. We can put our hand down alongside of a sick person who is almost totally out of communication, and they move their hand as though to push against our fingers and we retreat a little bit with our fingers. We find out they get a little bit more overt - this is curious to them and they'll get a little bit more overt and we retreat again a little harder. And the first thing you know, we find them picking up in consciousness and picking up in general activity and they then begin to conceive themselves as being at least slightly dangerous to their environment.

I have brought children out of tantrums and cats out of neurosis and preclears into communication with this type of an activity. Get them to make a slight forward move at which moment I permit my hand to retreat. To give you some idea how early this can be worked. It worked on my little boy when he was about a month and a half old. He was not doing well. He was having a lot of stomach upset. He was in the hospital three days in the hands of the medicos and it was almost too much for him. They were trying to feed him condensed milk and he had an allergy to it and I ... the doctor said he'd have to stay there ten days and I said ... I asked him if he didn't think he was being very adventurous and they didn't keep him there ten days.

I brought him home and mixed up a formula closely approximating something he could eat and he went on his way. But a month and a half later he was still suffering from the effects of the amount of noise, confusion, upset and so forth at the hospital. So, I was a little bit concerned with him and started to think about I wonder what the dickens I could do. All of a sudden it occurred to me - this fact of dangerousness and so I let my hand retreat - this is the youngest I ever worked, I worked it on other babies older than this but not on a month and a half for heaven sakes and I let my hand retreat from him a few times and he all of a sudden found out this was happening and this little boy hadn't done much in the way of laughing, he'd been very serious indeed, you see, and all of a sudden he broke out into a smile and we did this a few more times and I acted very terrified indeed and he broke out into a roaring laughter through the whole thing. It was the finest thing he ever saw and so on and then he became, as they quite ordinarily do, very affectionate and so on. It just raises them up unbelievably and that was the end of his real stomach trouble. There was no further stomach trouble after that. This was about 15 minutes of processing. The results are fast and they're good.

It is only when an army man or a part of a military unit is convinced that he is no longer dangerous to the enemy that he falls apart. Beware having anything to do with a company, regiment, or division that has had any part in a rout. They will steal you blind and cut your throat in the dark no matter who you are or what. Their pride in self is gone. It's the most fantastic deterioration which you've ever witnessed in your
life. Troops, they say, have to be seasoned but let's say it better than that. Troops have to have watched the enemy run under fire before they are really cocky troops. Now that's seasoning and they found out that they didn't run under fire. They have to find out these things before they are good. But there is dangerousness to the environment and you will find out any preclear that comes to you whose case is hard to handle has this as a basic factor in the case. This case believes the entire environment to be dangerous and no part of it to be safe. And a little higher on the tone scale than that believes that laughter is very dangerous, deadly and impossible.

So we have a new route out, which is a very old route, very old. We get 'em to believe that the environment is slightly dangerous ... I mean, pardon me... that they're slightly dangerous to the environment and the environment itself is slightly less dangerous to them and then by mock ups, or any other fashion, we could demonstrate to them that laughter wasn't going to kill them. If we could do those two things with a case, we would do some wonderful and remarkable things in psychotherapy. These are two levels of case actually. After the person departs from dangerousness, he begins to laugh. It's a very healthy thing, to be able to laugh, very, very healthy thing. Even an hysterical kind of laughter is healthier than a solemnity. People have heard hysterical laughter and have heard other kinds of laughter and they've conceived it to be very dangerous. There's only one thing dangerous about laughing and that's not laughing.

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(end of lecture)

Emphasis added.
Hubbard, L. R. (1954-07-05). Laughter in Processing. Seventh American Advanced Clinical Course, (7ACC-12). Phoenix, AZ.

Hubbard in 1954: "There's only one thing dangerous about laughing and that's not laughing."

Hubbard in 1977: "In some cultural areas, wit and humor are looked upon as a healthy release. However, in the case of orgs, this was not found to be the case." HCOB "Jokers and Degraders."

 

[Caroline]

In an earlier post, I quoted from a 1953 lecture where Hubbard talked about Excalibur and his "dangerous to environment" rule. Hubbard repeated this rule or statement a number of times in early lectures. Here's another example:

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But as we go along the line, as we look this thing over, we discover that an old sentence out of an old book, Excalibur, was quite right. "A man is as sane as he considers himself dangerous to his environment. He's as crazy as he considers his environment dangerous to him." Now, that is really a dramatic sort of statement; it's very dramatic. It's susceptible to a better codification than that, but I don't think the codification would communicate quite as well.​

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Hubbard, L. R. (1956, 19 October). Mechanics. Fifteenth American Advanced Clinical Course, (15ACC-05). Lecture conducted from Washington, DC.
Emphasis added.

 

[Caroline]

In this 1957 lecture Hubbard claimed he had been officially dead on two occasions. He connected one such death to an operation he had in the 30s, involving gas, immediately after which he wrote Excalibur. This was the dental operation involving nitrous oxide he spoke about elsewhere. Also elsewhere he states that "it was a matter of medical record that he was twice pronounced dead." (Well at least once, in 1986.)

Now, one says, "Well, it's all very well to take a scientific attitude toward death, and, you know – but after all, it does carry with it a little shock and upset." Yeah, that's very true, that's very true. Until you've been dead a few times you wouldn't really understand how upsetting it can be.​

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We are actually indebted for a considerable amount of our material to the odd fact that I have been officially dead twice. I don't think I've ever mentioned this very much before, but I died in an operation one time back in the 30s and went outside above the street and felt sorry for myself, decided they couldn't do this to me – the heart – body's heart had stopped beating. And I went back and I grabbed the body by the several – there's a bunch of interesting mechanisms in the head that restimulate a body's heartbeats and so forth, and I just took hold of them and then said "Come on here," and snapped the body back to life.​

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Well I didn't vividly remember after that exactly what had happened. It's quite amusing that I would fog around on this subject as long as I did. All I knew is that I had confronted a mystery of some sort or another that I couldn't make anything out of.​

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Now, I'd already been studying the subject of the mind for several years since I'd been in the university and this added just a little fillip to the sauce. And I shortly after that wrote a book which has never been published called "Excalibur" and which according to the New Yorker anybody can have a copy of for $1,500. That's not true. I have never permitted it to be copied, mostly because you now have most of the information in it and because it itself is rather antique and out of date. It was merely a plot of things. ​

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But this was an immediate bout with death which I eventually remembered – one kind or another. And the only reason I mention it is because it happens to so many people and they never mention it. They just never mention it. They go and kick the bucket and come back to life again and somebody or other invalidates them slightly, says, "Well, people always have strange dreams under gas" or something stupid about this thing, and so they shut up about it and they never say anything about it again.​

Hubbard, L. R. (1957, 30 July). Death. Eighteenth American Advanced Clinical Course, (18ACC-12). Lecture conducted from Washington, DC.
Emphasis added.

 

[Zertel]

In this 1957 lecture Hubbard claimed he had been officially dead on two occasions. He connected one such death to an operation he had in the 30s, involving gas, immediately after which he wrote Excalibur. This was the dental operation involving nitrous oxide he spoke about elsewhere. Also elsewhere he states that "it was a matter of medical record that he was twice pronounced dead." (Well at least once, in 1986.)

Now, one says, "Well, it's all very well to take a scientific attitude toward death, and, you know – but after all, it does carry with it a little shock and upset." Yeah, that's very true, that's very true. Until you've been dead a few times you wouldn't really understand how upsetting it can be.​

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We are actually indebted for a considerable amount of our material to the odd fact that I have been officially dead twice. I don't think I've ever mentioned this very much before, but I died in an operation one time back in the 30s and went outside above the street and felt sorry for myself, decided they couldn't do this to me – the heart – body's heart had stopped beating. And I went back and I grabbed the body by the several – there's a bunch of interesting mechanisms in the head that restimulate a body's heartbeats and so forth, and I just took hold of them and then said "Come on here," and snapped the body back to life.​

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Well I didn't vividly remember after that exactly what had happened. It's quite amusing that I would fog around on this subject as long as I did. All I knew is that I had confronted a mystery of some sort or another that I couldn't make anything out of.​

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Now, I'd already been studying the subject of the mind for several years since I'd been in the university and this added just a little fillip to the sauce. And I shortly after that wrote a book which has never been published called "Excalibur" and which according to the New Yorker anybody can have a copy of for $1,500. That's not true. I have never permitted it to be copied, mostly because you now have most of the information in it and because it itself is rather antique and out of date. It was merely a plot of things. ​

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But this was an immediate bout with death which I eventually remembered – one kind or another. And the only reason I mention it is because it happens to so many people and they never mention it. They just never mention it. They go and kick the bucket and come back to life again and somebody or other invalidates them slightly, says, "Well, people always have strange dreams under gas" or something stupid about this thing, and so they shut up about it and they never say anything about it again.​

Hubbard, L. R. (1957, 30 July). Death. Eighteenth American Advanced Clinical Course, (18ACC-12). Lecture conducted from Washington, DC.
Emphasis added.

From above - "Also elsewhere he states that "it was a matter of medical record that he was twice pronounced dead." (Well at least once, in 1986.)" - Laughter

I don't know how to use the snip thingy so I just copied that line which made me laugh. Has someone actually gotten all of Hub's lectures transcribed??

A few years ago a fellow named Peter Torres who posted as ThetaClear said he had spent endless hours pouring over Hubbard's taped lectures to see if he could pull out a workable Tek but he eventually gave up. He hasn't posted anything since the hurricane wiped out Puerto Rico where he lived.