New York mag dives into disturbing Gaiman allegations first brought up in podcast

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When New York magazine features writer Lila Shapiro contacted us last summer, she said she was looking into disturbing allegations about Neil Gaiman that had first been revealed in a podcast we contributed to.



Tortoise Media had released its podcast last July after talking to two women who said they had been in consensual relationships with author Gaiman, but who each alleged that they experienced what they consider sexual assault to have occurred in those relationships. Gaiman denied that the two relationships were anything but consensual. After the initial episodes of the podcast were released, additional women came forward with similar stories.


Tortoise Media reporters Paul Caruana Galizia and Rachel Johnson talked to us for what we knew about Gaiman being raised in Scientology, and that his family had been perhaps the most well known Scientology family in the UK in the church’s history there.


We told them, for example, that when Parliament was talking about banning Scientology in the late 1960s, Gaiman’s late father, David Gaiman, used his then seven-year-old son as a publicity stunt to try and sway public opinion. This is something we’ve been pointing out about the Gaimans for quite a few years. We cautioned the journalists, and Shapiro, that although Neil was brought up a Scientologist, we didn’t think it necessarily explained why he might have turned out to be such a creep.

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In cases like this, it’s hard to tell what’s true, or what may be fair-gaming.

Neil has been very low profile about his Scientology involvement.
 
Neil has been very low profile about his Scientology involvement.
Very understandable. It's bad enough to to live with the notoriety of being a sexual predator, but some things really cross the line.
 
Very understandable. It's bad enough to to live with the notoriety of being a sexual predator, but some things really cross the line.
In the current society, accusations of being a sexual predator can be dismissed as a “he said/she said”.

But to confess to believing in Scientology, in 2024, is to brand yourself as being a gullible lunatic.
 
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Lawsuits filed in 3 states, seeking money and a jury trial.



So....Neil Gaiman was a Class VIII Auditor.....according to this article.

 
Lawsuits filed in 3 states, seeking money and a jury trial.

if there are that many separate victims with similar accounts (it's 5 total), it is extremely unlikely that the majority of the allegations are false.

men in the US have recently been executed after appeals as high as the Supreme Court, for murder charges for which there was significantly less corroborated, credible testimony.
 
if there are that many separate victims with similar accounts (it's 5 total), it is extremely unlikely that the majority of the allegations are false.

men in the US have recently been executed after appeals as high as the Supreme Court, for murder charges for which there was significantly less corroborated, credible testimony.
They were executed for crimes that did not involve paying the plaintiffs money, and thus provide a motive for getting together and making up stories.

That’s what bothers me about many of these “years later” lawsuits.
 
Yea....apparently turned his Nanny ( procured by his wife) into a sex slave....
How long did she stay with him under that arrangement? If she continued the relationship, it implies ongoing consent.
 
How long did she stay with him under that arrangement? If she continued the relationship, it implies ongoing consent.

Did I read 6 years?

Yea….I certainly see your point and agree…
But on the other hand…becoming enslaved really means no consent at all….or at least losing the ability to change one’s mind.
 
Did I read 6 years?

Yea….I certainly see your point and agree…
But on the other hand…becoming enslaved really means no consent at all….or at least losing the ability to change one’s mind.
In the Sea Org, we were, to a large extent, enslaved, in that we had people who would use physical force to bring us back if we tried to escape.

And yet, many of us were able to escape.

Being voluntarily involved in kinky bondage scenarios is not the same thing, especially over years.

Some may bring up the Danny Masterson case, but that's not the same thing: they moved to put him in jail over violent assaults, not to extract money.
 
They were executed for crimes that did not involve paying the plaintiffs money, and thus provide a motive for getting together and making up stories.

they were executed for crimes that provided motives for authorities (and sometimes accusers) to get together and make up stories -- including for financial (bonuses, promotions, etc.) or political gain -- though.

and sexual assault victims who didn't know each other somehow getting together to make up stories, coordinate them well enough to avoid major inconsistencies and agree to perjure themselves -- particularly when it comes to 3, 4, or more -- seems implausible and unlikely, including compared to police and prosecutors who have worked together previously coming up with stories.
 
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