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Syncretism.

Nation of Islam Brother Luqman Muhammad (who is on the Scientology Student Hat Course) again attempts to reconcile Scientology with the Quran and Islam. Brother Luqmam asserts that "there is ARC here with Mr. L. Ron Hubbard, The Hon. Minister Louis Farrakhan and the Holy Qur’an."

Bismillaah al-Rahman al-Raheem = “In the name of Allah, The Most Gracious and The Most Merciful."

Wa’allama aadama l-asma kullahaa = "And He imparted unto Adam the names of all things," from Sura 2:31 of the Quran.




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Bismillaah al-Rahman al-Raheem

“And certainly We have made the Word to have many connections for their sake, so that they may be mindful.”

Holy Qur'an 28:51

The Importance of Nomenclature

“But in trying to - in trying to assimilate a piece of information, these are the points to watch and these are the points that trip you. Nomenclature. Nomenclature: what does a word mean? And that’s what trips you basically, because then you cannot read a sentence with a word in it and know what the sentence says. So nomenclature is a major stumbling block in any study and part of nomenclature is the recognition of what the definition is. It’s one thing just to have the definition and it’s another thing to have an idea of what the definition means.” Student Hat, Studying: Data Assimilation, pg. 19

Knowing the nomenclature of a word, and the manner in which it is being used by the Author, is equivalent to understanding a variable in an equation.

A misunderstanding of a word can prevent the understanding of a sentence. This causes an aberration. The same principle occurs in evaluating an equation.

Given the equation: C = 2πr, if one doesn’t understand the nomenclature of each term, then the C, or Circumference, cannot be evaluated.
Here, the letter C, π and r are called variables. And the word variable means: characterized by variations, a quantity that may assume any one of a set of values, not true to type or aberrant.
For some it is our misunderstanding of the unknowns in mathematics that works as a counter-effort to our desire to learn mathematics.

What is the meaning of assimilation and how does it correspond to what we have been taught by the Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan?

What is the meaning of nomenclature and how does it correspond to the Holy Qur’an?

Significance of Assimilation

The word assimilate means: to take into one’s mind and understand thoroughly. It also means: to make similar.

When two or more things are similar then there are characteristics in each that have ARC.

When ARC can be gained from two or more ideas or concepts then each concept can be thoroughly understood.

“A new public school system should relate the curriculum to the self. When you see the curriculum as an outgrowth of self, then we can identify with the curriculum, giving us an incentive to learn.” A Torchlight for America, The Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan, pg. 49.

“In the Muhammad University of Islam school system, our students’ learning is facilitated because they identify with the subjects. They are taught that they are the subject. They are taught, “I am chemistry.” Not “I am a student of chemistry,” “I am biology. I am economics. I am history. I am mathematics.” When we relate the forces within self to the forces that lie outside the self, this connects us to subjects we are studying in a manner that we can ultimately master those subjects.” A Torchlight for America, pg. 49-50
We could say, based on the definitions provided, that the Hon. Min. Louis Farrakhan is instructing us to assimilate the subjects studied.

Make the subject equivalent or equal to self in order to take into the mind and understand thoroughly.

So there is ARC here with Mr. L. Ron Hubbard, The Hon. Minister Louis Farrakhan and the Holy Qur’an.
What is the significance of nomenclature?

Nomenclature means: name or designation. The act or process of naming. A system or set of terms or symbols especially in a particular science, discipline, or art.

Terms that are synonymous with nomenclature are; appellation, denomination, denotation, designation, name and title.

The term comes from the root word nomenclatura which means: assigning names to things.

Where is nomenclature found in the Holy Qur’an?

“And he taught Adam all of the names...” Holy Qur’an 2:31

Wa’allama aadama l-asma kullahaa

The Arabic word asma comes from the root word sumuw which means: that which is elevated, that which exceeds one’s understanding, that which is higher.

Sumuw also means: to name, to call, to designate or denominate.

A derivative of the root word of sumuw is tasmiya which means: nomenclature.

When Allah taught Adam all of the “names” can we say that He taught him the “nomenclature” of all things?

Did Allah teach Adam the wisdom of all of the truths with regards to a special system of mathematics and science that placed him above the Angels and gave him mastery over all things except Allah?

When we are Clearing Words we are learning the Nomenclature of the word. If we are gaining a higher understanding of the subject matter and a greater understanding of self, then who is The Teacher?

Are we being taught “all of the names”?
“Read in the name of thy Lord Who creates - creates man from a clot. Read and they Lord is most Generous, Who taught by the pen, taught man what he knew not.” Holy Qur’an 96:1-5
The word Iqraa means: to read, to study, to investigate, and to study thoroughly.

Peace Family!!!

Holy Qur’an 96:1-5

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NOTE: The concluding reference to the Holy Qur’an 96:1-5 is to the following passage (from the Muhammad Asad translation entitled, "The Message of the Qur'an"):

"(1) READ in the name of thy Sustainer, who has created – (2) created man out of a germ-cell! (3) Read – for thy Sustainer is the Most Bountiful One (4) who has taught [man] the use of the pen – (5) taught man what he did not know!"

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October 19 - 20, 2019: Scientology Clear, Super Power Completion, Cause Resurgence Rundown Completion and PTS/SP Course Graduate Nation of Islam Sister Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad presents a "Repair of the Black Family" event at the Church of Scientology Mission of Baton Rouge.

Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad

Does the Nation of I卐lam members know L Ron Hubbard Senior (El Con) claimed he was Mohammad in a past life?
 

HelluvaHoax!

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NotsoNutsoNow

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Wait, do you mean Buddha?

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No Mohammad, the founder of I卐lam. El Con claimed so in his original OT VIII notes that have since been removed under legal threat from the Internet. It was one of his grand announcements that were deleted from the original OT VIII version prior to its release.
 

NotsoNutsoNow

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No, Hubbard referred to himself as Maitreya (not Mohammad).

You are half correct. This revelation is completely different from the Hmym of Asia.

In his OT VIII notes, El Con claimed to be Mohammad. The information was released by Pat Broeker, Annie Broker or Pat and Annie Broker in 1988. El Con kept the 'Jesus is a paedophile' crap in but not the stuff about Mohammad.
 

HelluvaHoax!

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No Mohammad, the founder of I卐lam. El Con claimed so in his original OT VIII notes that have since been removed under legal threat from the Internet. It was one of his grand announcements that were deleted from the original OT VIII version prior to its release.

Thx! I kind of lost track of all those different versions of OT VIII and didn't have the patience to figure out which CLAIM was correct.

About his claim to be Mohammad, didn't Hubbard at one time make some nasty disparaging/degrading remarks about Mohammad (as he did all other successful Messiahs)? Okay, let me do a fast search and see if something on that pops up quickly. . .

SEARCH RESULTS (2-3 minutes): Damn! The google search algorithm went type three because it thought "Mohammad" and "Scientology" and "Hubbard" all appearing in the same search parameter meant 2,393,876 Mohammads that are in the NOI, lol.
I am pretty sure I remember something very derogatory Hubbard said on an audio tape about Mohammad, anyone know?

I did bump into this tidbit however on wiki:

"The revealed beliefs in Scientology at higher levels become increasingly contradictory with the world's major religions. The concept of past lives in Scientology is at odds with Christianity and Islam. Beliefs concerning the origins and age of the Earth, the root of evil, and the nature of man make it impossible to uphold the beliefs of most other religions while also being a Scientologist. Hubbard claimed that Islam was the result of an extraterrestrial memory implant, called the Emanator, of which the Kaaba is supposedly an artifact. Mainstream religions, in his view, had failed to realize their objectives: "It is all very well to idealize poverty and associate wisdom with begging bowls, or virtue with low estate. However, those who have done this (Buddhists, Christians, Communists, and other fanatics) have dead ended or are dead ending."[6]
What happens if an NOI Scientologist is on course at the local Ideal Org and while clearing words in the Scn dictionary, and they run into "THE EMANATOR"? LOL
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Wait, I found one more juicy public relations crashing fact about the ultra-bizarre merging of Scientology and NOI cults.


“This is an incident called the Emanator, by the way. And this thing is, by the way, the source of the Mohammedan Lode Stone that they have hanging down there that uh.. when uh.. Mohammed decided to be a good uh.. small town booster in uh.. Kansas Middle East or something of the sort.. by the way, the only reason he mocked that thing up is the trade wasn’t good in his home town. That’s right. You can read the life of Mohammed. And he’s got a black one and it’s sort of hung between the ceiling and the floor and, I don’t know it.. maybe it’s called a casbah or.. or.. or something. Any.. anyway that thing is a mock-up of the Emanator. The Emanator is bright, not black.” — L. Ron Hubbard, Philadelphia Doctorate Course No. 24, December 9, 1952.

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TIL that Table Talks [TableTalks.org] has over 600 hours of conversations and teachings of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.

Which raises the question, why are Nation of Islam (NOI) Minister Tony Muhammad, NOI Sister Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad, and other prominent NOI members urging their NOI Brothers and Sisters to listen to and study the Scientology lectures of L. Ron Hubbard? Have all of them already completed all of the lectures of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad?

Even applying the philosophical principle of charity or charitable interpretation, and accepting that NOI members must first master Scientology Study Tech before they can understand their own scriptures, why is it necessary for them to study everything else Hubbard said or wrote before they study their own scriptures?


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... prominent NOI members urging their NOI Brothers and Sisters to listen to and study the Scientology lectures of L. Ron Hubbard? Have all of them already completed all of the lectures of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad? .....why is it necessary for them to study everything else Hubbard said or wrote before they study their own scriptures?
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EXPLANATION: In the late 1960s Dr. Hubbard discovered that beings cannot understand either written or verbally transmitted information without the use of STUDY TECH that utilizes clay, paperclips and old batteries. Elijah Muhammad was born in 1897, many decades before double A batteries became household items. Absent the use of demo kits, when people read or listen to another's words, they literally had no idea what is being said.

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TIL that Table Talks [TableTalks.org] has over 600 hours of conversations and teachings of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad.

Which raises the question, why are Nation of Islam (NOI) Minister Tony Muhammad, NOI Sister Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad, and other prominent NOI members urging their NOI Brothers and Sisters to listen to and study the Scientology lectures of L. Ron Hubbard? Have all of them already completed all of the lectures of the Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad?

Even applying the philosophical principle of charity or charitable interpretation, and accepting that NOI members must first master Scientology Study Tech before they can understand their own scriptures, why is it necessary for them to study everything else Hubbard said or wrote before they study their own scriptures?


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To attempt one possible answer my own questions:

NOI Sister Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad has been a Power FSM (i.e., getting at least 100 people on the Bridge in a given year) for at least the last several years. NOI Minister Tony Muhammad was previously a Power FSM. Other NOI members make money as FSMs from selling Scientology.

The bottom line is that NOI members make money selling Scientology scriptures in various forms (e g., auditing, courses, books, audio lectures). NOI members do NOT make money selling NOI scriptures. That is a perverse set of incentives for an organization, the NOI, to have. Self-destructive in the long run, actually.

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Syncretism.

Nation of Islam Brother Luqman Muhammad (who is taking the Scientology Student Hat Course) on the similarities between Dianetics and the Quran.

Brother Luqmam states: "It would seem that there is ARC between Dianetics and the Holy Qur’an."

Bismillaah al-Rahman al-Raheem = “In the name of Allah, The Most Gracious and The Most Merciful."




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Bismillaah al-Rahman al-Raheem
“And certainly We have made the Word to have many connections for their sake, so that they may be mindful.” Holy Qur'an 28:51

The Record of the Wicked is in the Prison

“Nay, surely the record of the wicked is in the prison. And what will make thee know what the prison is? It is a written book.” Holy Qur’an 83:7-9

Could this written book, which is also a prison, represent the aberrated mind?

What could be the “record of the wicked”?

How would one be able to “know” what this book has recorded?

(Kallaa inna kitaaba l-fujaari lafi sijjinin wamaa adraka ma sijjinun kitabun marquumun).

The word for prison is sijjinin, which comes from the root word sajana, which means: to jail, to imprison, to be a captive, to be in detention.

The Mind can be considered a recording called the Book of Deeds. The Mind, as we have learned through Dianetic Processing, records everything that has taken place in our lives. This recording is called the Time Track.

“The mind records on some level continuously during the entire life of the organism.” Dianetics, pg. 68

“All therapy is done, not by remembering or associating, but by travel on the time track. Every human being has a time track. It begins with life and it ends with death. It is a sequence of events complete from portal to portal.” Dianetics, pg. Vii

“The index system of the standard bank is a wonderful thing to behold. Everything is there, filed by subject, filed by time and filed by conclusions. All perceptions are present.” Dianetics, pg. 242

Compare this to the Holy Qur’an which states in Surah 18:49...

“And the book is placed, and thou seest the guilty fearing for what is in it, and they say: O woe to us! What a book is this! It leaves out neither a small thing nor a great one, but numbers them (all), and they find what they did confronting them. And thy Lord wrongs not anyone.”

In another verse in the Holy Qur’an it says: “Read thy book. Thine own soul is sufficient as a reckoner against you this day.” Holy Qur’an 17:14

Here, it would appear that "book" is synonymous with "soul".

The word soul is nafs which also means: to be precious, to be valuable and to be priceless. This may also be considered, based on these definitions, to describe the Best Part.

Nafs also means: mind, essence, nature, and mental attitude.

This imprisoned mind could correspond to the concept of Enturbulated Theta or Entheta.

The word turbulent means: to be characterized by confusion, agitation or tumult. It is that which causes unrest, violence and disturbance.

This word is related to the Arabic word tariba which means: to be covered with dust, to be in the grave or to be entombed.

The description of the word enturbulated theta and the Arabic word tariba are describing the same thing.

It would seem that there is ARC between Dianetics and the Holy Qur’an.

What is the “record of the wicked” that keeps one imprisoned?

In my humble opinion, the “record of the wicked” could be described by the following.

“The antagonistic forces of the exterior environment thus becomes entered into the individual himself without the knowledge or consent of the individual. And there they create an interior world of forces which exerts itself not only against the exterior world but against the individual himself. Aberration is caused by what has been done to not done by the individual.” Dianetics, pg. V

How would we “know” what this book is?

The word adraka comes from the root word daraa which means: to know, to comprehend. It also means to be more knowledgeable, to be more informed and to know better.

Comprehension of the mind would mean to grasp the nature of or the significance of the mind. It would imply an understanding of the elements of the mind and how the parts relate to one another. That is Dianetics.

To “know” this book, the mind, would be the product of education, study, as well as Dianetic Processing.

In conclusion, the elements of the verses presented above have ARC with the terminology and concepts found in Dianetics.

The more we study the terminology of Dianetics, and Clear the words found in the Holy Qur’an, we will find ARC with these two sciences which are actually One.

“There is One truth, the wise know it by many names.” Rig Veda

Peace Family!!!

Holy Qur’an 96:1-5

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NOTE: The concluding reference to the Holy Qur’an 96:1-5 is to the following passage (from the Muhammad Asad translation entitled, "The Message of the Qur'an"):

"(1) READ in the name of thy Sustainer, who has created – (2) created man out of a germ-cell! (3) Read – for thy Sustainer is the Most Bountiful One (4) who has taught [man] the use of the pen – (5) taught man what he did not know!"

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To attempt one possible answer my own questions:

NOI Sister Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad has been a Power FSM (i.e., getting at least 100 people on the Bridge in a given year) for at least the last several years. NOI Minister Tony Muhammad was previously a Power FSM. Other NOI members make money as FSMs from selling Scientology.

The bottom line is that NOI members make money selling Scientology scriptures in various forms (e g., auditing, courses, books, audio lectures). NOI members do NOT make money selling NOI scriptures. That is a perverse set of incentives for an organization, the NOI, to have. Self-destructive in the long run, actually.

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It might be as simple as both Nayyirah and Tony are both enthusiastic NOI/Scn hybrids promoting Scn. They both speak and write glowing testaments to their wins and cognitions in Scn.
 

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Nation of Islam Sister Nayyirah Tivica Muhammad says:


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Normalize Dianetics as
the go to for Mental
Health!
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It's the sanity for ME!

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Query: Why does Sister Nayyirah rely on Dianetics when she is a Scientology Clear and no longer has a Reactive Mind? When she is also a Scientology Super Power Completion, Cause Resurgence Rundown Completion, and PTS/SP Course Graduate?

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Nation of Islam Brother Ahmad Majid is promoting the World Institute of Scientology Enterprises (WISE) East US Podcast:

"Complexity & Confronting "

Brother Majid notes that, "THE BASIS OF ABERRATION IS A NON-CONFRONT."




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Nation of Islam Brother Ahmad Majid is promoting the World Institute of Scientology Enterprises (WISE) East US Podcast:
"Complexity & Confronting "

Brother Majid notes that, "THE BASIS OF ABERRATION IS A NON-CONFRONT."
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Paradoxically and ironically, it's true.

NOI members cannot confront the fact that they are simultaneously trapped in two (2) cults, which in turn causes their aberration stats to power-trend and soar to 2X!

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Nation of Islam David Johnson-Muhammad has posted Minister Farrakhan's 2011 endorsement of Scientology.



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Syncretism.

Following the Repair Of The Black Family Tuesday night Zoom meeting about Dianetics, Scientology and the Nation of Islam, NOI Brother Luqmam Muhammad explains the concept of supplements and concludes:

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The Supreme Wisdom and Supreme Technology are Supplements to one another in that they represent two schools of thought that are in harmony with one another and can be used to accomplish one goal in a faster, more effective, manner.

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As previously noted, "the Supreme Technology" refers to Scientology.

"The Supreme Wisdom" refers to the book "The Supreme Wisdom Lessons By Master Fard Muhammad To His Servant: The Most Honorable Elijah Muhammad For The Lost-Found Nation Of Islam In North America."

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NotsoNutsoNow

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Thx! I kind of lost track of all those different versions of OT VIII and didn't have the patience to figure out which CLAIM was correct.

About his claim to be Mohammad, didn't Hubbard at one time make some nasty disparaging/degrading remarks about Mohammad (as he did all other successful Messiahs)? Okay, let me do a fast search and see if something on that pops up quickly. . .

SEARCH RESULTS (2-3 minutes): Damn! The google search algorithm went type three because it thought "Mohammad" and "Scientology" and "Hubbard" all appearing in the same search parameter meant 2,393,876 Mohammads that are in the NOI, lol.
I am pretty sure I remember something very derogatory Hubbard said on an audio tape about Mohammad, anyone know?

I did bump into this tidbit however on wiki:

"The revealed beliefs in Scientology at higher levels become increasingly contradictory with the world's major religions. The concept of past lives in Scientology is at odds with Christianity and Islam. Beliefs concerning the origins and age of the Earth, the root of evil, and the nature of man make it impossible to uphold the beliefs of most other religions while also being a Scientologist. Hubbard claimed that Islam was the result of an extraterrestrial memory implant, called the Emanator, of which the Kaaba is supposedly an artifact. Mainstream religions, in his view, had failed to realize their objectives: "It is all very well to idealize poverty and associate wisdom with begging bowls, or virtue with low estate. However, those who have done this (Buddhists, Christians, Communists, and other fanatics) have dead ended or are dead ending."[6]
What happens if an NOI Scientologist is on course at the local Ideal Org and while clearing words in the Scn dictionary, and they run into "THE EMANATOR"? LOL
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Correct me if I wrong, but I think it was you who came up with El Con’s ‘Law of Commotion’.

There are many, many of releases where El Con contradicts himself not only in subsequent releases but also within the same release – El Con’s Law of Commotion wilfully at play.

El Con may have written derogative stuff about Mohammad but he also criticised Buddha.

El Con having issues (overcoming problems (if s/he or it can) is the basic principle of existence – a living organism cannot survive if it can’t overcome problems, thus, ‘overcoming problems’ is more basic than ‘survive’) with his so-called past reincarnations, for example, Buddha and Mohammad, is really not that different to him having issues with his ‘charge’ and ‘case’, which is one of the reasons ‘he invented’ the Dianetic$ scam and its add-on sham, $cientology.

One could quite easily apply El Con’s ‘Law of Commotion’ to Chris Owen’s 1999 book Ron The “War Hero” L Ron Hubbard ($enior) And The U.S. Navy 1941-1950 Chapter 2 L Ron Hubbard: His Struggle With Truth (RON THE "WAR HERO" - L. Ron Hubbard: his struggle with truth).

If he wasn’t already shark shit El Con could have written:

If I’m going to have a past, I prefer it to be multiple choice (Ref: The Joker, Batman: The Killing Joke (1989).)
 

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Nation of Islam David Johnson-Muhammad has posted Minister Farrakhan's 2011 endorsement of Scientology.



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