LOL! LRH was right on Christianity.

Cuitlahuac Rivas

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In the video at the bottom of the article (by Elena Danaan) you can see how Marcabians (Enki the Anunnaki) is being presented as the "Christ Consciousness" that is going to stage the "Second Coming". At the 33:13 minuets mark, Elena explains that Jesus (Jeshua) was a Marcabian (Anunnaki) hybrid. Elena at the 39:57 is saying that Enki will return as the Christ Consciousness [the Second Coming], because Enki is of the same bloodline as Jesus.
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Below are excerpts of LRH's "OT VIII Student Briefing", where he explains his role to stop the Marcabian's "Second Coming".

WARNING, contains OT III stuff.

Quote:
HCO BULLETIN OF 5 MAY 1980

What follows is a story that has been withheld, for reasons which will soon be obvious, until such time as there were enough OTs that something could be done about it. That time Is now. It is not a nice or a pretty story. but I trust that having arrived on the OT VIII Course you are ready to hear it. You have undoubtedly heard pieces of data over the years that hinted at the greater untold reality of my mission here on Earth. but the story was never written, nor spoken in its entirety due to security problems that have unfortunately always plagued the organization.

Some eighty-odd million years ago Earth time (it actually dates at 78,395,042) plans were drawn by a group outside the MEST universe for the eventual takeover of a good portion of this universe. Not a particularly large nor Imaginative crew, their exterior perspective, however, gives them considerable advantage over the time-bound beings of the MEST universe. Borrowing from earlier operations such as Helatrobus, they conceived an ongoing implant, some portions of which have been fairly faithfully rendered in parts of the Bible. This implant, laid in by carefully controlled genetic mutation at Incident Two of OT Ill and periodically reinforced by controlled historic events since then, makes it effectively impossible for beings on the more heavily affected planets such as Earth to become free. It causes progressive genetic "evolution" that gives the subject population greater and greater susceptibility to the telepathic impingement and direction of the controllers. In its final stage the progression becomes almost geometric, and it is this final stage that we are rapidly approaching.

Another aspect of this Genetic Entity-line implant is that the body becomes in effect a sort of theta trap that kicks in heavily on the being should he attempt to expand his horizons beyond that of pure physical universe reality. There can be temporary key-outs which we have all experienced in varying degrees, but until this area is handled it can honestly be said that there is no hope for continued expansion. The good news is that once this is run out, expansion becomes rather effortless and almost automatic.

No doubt you are familiar with the Revelations section of the Bible where various events are predicted. Also mentioned Is a brief period of time in which an arch-enemy of Christ, referred to as the anti-Christ, will reign and his opinions will have sway. All this makes for very fantastic, entertaining reading but there is truth in it. This anti-Christ represents the forces of Lucifer (literally, the "light bearer" or "light bringer"), Lucifer being a mythical representation of the forces of enlightenment, the Galactic Confederacy. My mission could be said to fulfill the Biblical promise represented by this brief anti-Christ period. During this period there is a fleeting opportunity for the whole scenario to be effectively derailed, which would make it impossible for the mass Marcabian landing (Second Coming) to take place. The Second Coming is designed, among other things, to trigger a rapid series of destructive events.

With the exception of the original Buddhism, virtually all religions of any consequence on this planet, mono and pantheistic alike, have been instruments to speed the progress of this "evolution of consciousness" and bring about the eventual enslavement of mankind. As you know, Siddhartha Gautama never claimed to be anything more than a man. Having caught on to this operation, he postulated his own return as Metteyya, part of which prophecy will have been fulfilled upon the passing of L. Ron Hubbard.

For those of you whose Christian toes I may have stepped on, let me take the opportunity to disabuse you of some lovely myths. For instance, the historic Jesus was not nearly the sainted figure he has been made out to be. In addition to being a lover of young boys and men, he was given to uncontrollable bursts of temper and hatred that belied the general message of love, understanding and other typical Marcab PR. You have only to look at the history his teachings inspired, to see where it all inevitably leads. It Is historic fact and yet man still clings to the ideal, so deep and insidious is the biologic implanting.

It Is a good joke that the Galactic Confederacy is associated with the Serpent in the Garden, the beast and other emissaries of the "Prince of Darkness". Yet in certain passages and esoteric interpretations of the Bible (much of which has been taken out and effectively suppressed for centuries) as well as the Cabbalah, the truth reveals itself quite nicely for the clever and the ungullible.

I had an inkling, but only that, of the insidiousness of this material as far back as 1945. Later, in charcteristic over-optimism, I thought that R6 would be the end of it. But that was followed by NOTs and the Purification Rundown and still the string continued to unwind with the ball at the end of it just out of sight.

I will soon leave this world only to return and complete my mission with another Identity. Although I long to stretch my arms back in repose on some distant star in some distant galaxy. It appears that is one dream that will have to wait. But my return depends on people like you doing these materials thoroughly and completely so that there will be a genetically uncontaminated body for me to pick up and resume where I left off. A body free of religious mania, right/wrong dichotomy and synthetic karma. The job ahead is far too tough to even contemplate doing with your standard -- courtesy of certain other-dimensional players and their Marcab pieces, many of whom are right here In the general populace -- genetically altered body.

Without the biogenetic meddling of those who stand outside time (who cannot yet directly influence our world and must work through others) the dwindling spiral is not nearly as automatic and self-perpetuating as it appears. There are regions even in isolated parts of the Milky Way where poets are free to poet and magicians can paint reality with their magic wands and exteriorize without body kickback. But these areas unfortunately are fewer and fewer.

I will return not as a religious leader but a political one. That happens to be the requisite beingness for the task at hand. I will not be known to most of you, my activities misunderstood by many, yet along with your constant effort in the theta band I will effectively postpone and then halt a series of events designed to make happy slaves of us all.
End Quote:

Video by Elena Danaan:

Understanding Anunnaki History, the Return of Enki and the Impact on UFO Disclosure

 
This 1980 OT 8's "biogeneric meddling" by beings outside the physical universe is theory with no practical.

The first OT 8, of the late 1960s - "total power," etc. - displayed on Scientology's, then, Grade Chart, did not exist; although Hubbard said it did, and Scientologists, of course, believed Hubbard. This nonexistent late 1960s OT 8 was used to generate millions of dollars for Scientology and used to recruit. It also was used to motivate people to hand over their minds to "Hubbard Guidance Centers" for washing, rinsing, and re-washing. Plus, of course, Hubbardian implanting.

Then, years later, came the enigmatic 1980 OT 8 theory.

Finally, years later (around 1986), appeared New OT 8 which had been cut and pasted together by, then, senior Case Supervisor Ray Mithoff. That would be OT 8 number three for which the End Result - to paraphrase - is, "I don't know who I am but would like to find out."

This 1980 OT 8 theory says, or implies, the processes of the Grade Chart didn't work because of this meddling, and then provides no practical.


hqdefault.jpg

This would be very bad for morale, and bad for business, and it's no wonder Miscavige made it disappear.

*​

David Mayo told me about how, during one of his visits to the Hubbard residence, Pat Broeker excitedly handed him the text of the OT 8 theory of 1980. According to Mayo, when he returned to his office he placed it in the circular file cabinet (trash can).

David Mayo was surprised that Hubbard would have him create an OT 8 advanced course based on a couple of pages of weird "theory." He assumed Hubbard would want to create the section 8 advanced course himself.

But no, and stranger still, this was the period when Hubbard was most anxious about his safety - May 1980. Mary Sue was a convicted felon and her husband was an un-indicted co-conspirator. Mary Sue was on her way to prison, and her husband was on psychoactive medication, in other words, "psych drugs" to Scientologists.

So, probably, Hubbard was high when he wrote this, which would explain his mentioning the Kabbala, which, as far as I know, he had never mentioned before.

It appears that Bill Robertson was aware of this OT 8 theory and his OT 8 is similar in theory.


"Evil beings, outside the MEST universe, are stopping Scientology from working."
 
In the video at the bottom of the article (by Elena Danaan) you can see how Marcabians (Enki the Anunnaki) is being presented as the "Christ Consciousness" that is going to stage the "Second Coming". At the 33:13 minuets mark, Elena explains that Jesus (Jeshua) was a Marcabian (Anunnaki) hybrid. Elena at the 39:57 is saying that Enki will return as the Christ Consciousness [the Second Coming], because Enki is of the same bloodline as Jesus.
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Below are excerpts of LRH's "OT VIII Student Briefing", where he explains his role to stop the Marcabian's "Second Coming".

WARNING, contains OT III stuff.

Quote:
HCO BULLETIN OF 5 MAY 1980

What follows is a story that has been withheld, for reasons which will soon be obvious, until such time as there were enough OTs that something could be done about it. That time Is now. It is not a nice or a pretty story. but I trust that having arrived on the OT VIII Course you are ready to hear it. You have undoubtedly heard pieces of data over the years that hinted at the greater untold reality of my mission here on Earth. but the story was never written, nor spoken in its entirety due to security problems that have unfortunately always plagued the organization.

Some eighty-odd million years ago Earth time (it actually dates at 78,395,042) plans were drawn by a group outside the MEST universe for the eventual takeover of a good portion of this universe. Not a particularly large nor Imaginative crew, their exterior perspective, however, gives them considerable advantage over the time-bound beings of the MEST universe. Borrowing from earlier operations such as Helatrobus, they conceived an ongoing implant, some portions of which have been fairly faithfully rendered in parts of the Bible. This implant, laid in by carefully controlled genetic mutation at Incident Two of OT Ill and periodically reinforced by controlled historic events since then, makes it effectively impossible for beings on the more heavily affected planets such as Earth to become free. It causes progressive genetic "evolution" that gives the subject population greater and greater susceptibility to the telepathic impingement and direction of the controllers. In its final stage the progression becomes almost geometric, and it is this final stage that we are rapidly approaching.

Another aspect of this Genetic Entity-line implant is that the body becomes in effect a sort of theta trap that kicks in heavily on the being should he attempt to expand his horizons beyond that of pure physical universe reality. There can be temporary key-outs which we have all experienced in varying degrees, but until this area is handled it can honestly be said that there is no hope for continued expansion. The good news is that once this is run out, expansion becomes rather effortless and almost automatic.

No doubt you are familiar with the Revelations section of the Bible where various events are predicted. Also mentioned Is a brief period of time in which an arch-enemy of Christ, referred to as the anti-Christ, will reign and his opinions will have sway. All this makes for very fantastic, entertaining reading but there is truth in it. This anti-Christ represents the forces of Lucifer (literally, the "light bearer" or "light bringer"), Lucifer being a mythical representation of the forces of enlightenment, the Galactic Confederacy. My mission could be said to fulfill the Biblical promise represented by this brief anti-Christ period. During this period there is a fleeting opportunity for the whole scenario to be effectively derailed, which would make it impossible for the mass Marcabian landing (Second Coming) to take place. The Second Coming is designed, among other things, to trigger a rapid series of destructive events.

With the exception of the original Buddhism, virtually all religions of any consequence on this planet, mono and pantheistic alike, have been instruments to speed the progress of this "evolution of consciousness" and bring about the eventual enslavement of mankind. As you know, Siddhartha Gautama never claimed to be anything more than a man. Having caught on to this operation, he postulated his own return as Metteyya, part of which prophecy will have been fulfilled upon the passing of L. Ron Hubbard.

For those of you whose Christian toes I may have stepped on, let me take the opportunity to disabuse you of some lovely myths. For instance, the historic Jesus was not nearly the sainted figure he has been made out to be. In addition to being a lover of young boys and men, he was given to uncontrollable bursts of temper and hatred that belied the general message of love, understanding and other typical Marcab PR. You have only to look at the history his teachings inspired, to see where it all inevitably leads. It Is historic fact and yet man still clings to the ideal, so deep and insidious is the biologic implanting.

It Is a good joke that the Galactic Confederacy is associated with the Serpent in the Garden, the beast and other emissaries of the "Prince of Darkness". Yet in certain passages and esoteric interpretations of the Bible (much of which has been taken out and effectively suppressed for centuries) as well as the Cabbalah, the truth reveals itself quite nicely for the clever and the ungullible.

I had an inkling, but only that, of the insidiousness of this material as far back as 1945. Later, in charcteristic over-optimism, I thought that R6 would be the end of it. But that was followed by NOTs and the Purification Rundown and still the string continued to unwind with the ball at the end of it just out of sight.

I will soon leave this world only to return and complete my mission with another Identity. Although I long to stretch my arms back in repose on some distant star in some distant galaxy. It appears that is one dream that will have to wait. But my return depends on people like you doing these materials thoroughly and completely so that there will be a genetically uncontaminated body for me to pick up and resume where I left off. A body free of religious mania, right/wrong dichotomy and synthetic karma. The job ahead is far too tough to even contemplate doing with your standard -- courtesy of certain other-dimensional players and their Marcab pieces, many of whom are right here In the general populace -- genetically altered body.

Without the biogenetic meddling of those who stand outside time (who cannot yet directly influence our world and must work through others) the dwindling spiral is not nearly as automatic and self-perpetuating as it appears. There are regions even in isolated parts of the Milky Way where poets are free to poet and magicians can paint reality with their magic wands and exteriorize without body kickback. But these areas unfortunately are fewer and fewer.

I will return not as a religious leader but a political one. That happens to be the requisite beingness for the task at hand. I will not be known to most of you, my activities misunderstood by many, yet along with your constant effort in the theta band I will effectively postpone and then halt a series of events designed to make happy slaves of us all.
End Quote:

Video by Elena Danaan:

Understanding Anunnaki History, the Return of Enki and the Impact on UFO Disclosure

I guess that's a typo, the correct statement would be, "PT Barnum was right", as you exemplify.
 
This 1980 OT 8's "biogeneric meddling" by beings outside the physical universe is theory with no practical.

The first OT 8, of the late 1960s - "total power," etc. - displayed on Scientology's, then, Grade Chart, did not exist; although Hubbard said it did, and Scientologists, of course, believed Hubbard. This nonexistent late 1960s OT 8 was used to generate millions of dollars for Scientology and used to recruit. It also was used to motivate people to hand over their minds to "Hubbard Guidance Centers" for washing, rinsing, and re-washing. Plus, of course, Hubbardian implanting.

Then, years later, came the enigmatic 1980 OT 8 theory.

Finally, years later (around 1986), appeared New OT 8 which had been cut and pasted together by, then, senior Case Supervisor Ray Mithoff. That would be OT 8 number three for which the End Result - to paraphrase - is, "I don't know who I am but would like to find out."

This 1980 OT 8 theory says, or implies, the processes of the Grade Chart didn't work because of this meddling, and then provides no practical.


hqdefault.jpg

This would be very bad for morale, and bad for business, and it's no wonder Miscavige made it disappear.

*​

David Mayo told me about how, during one of his visits to the Hubbard residence, Pat Broeker excitedly handed him the text of the OT 8 theory of 1980. According to Mayo, when he returned to his office he placed it in the circular file cabinet (trash can).

David Mayo was surprised that Hubbard would have him create an OT 8 advanced course based on a couple of pages of weird "theory." He assumed Hubbard would want to create the section 8 advanced course himself.

But no, and stranger still, this was the period when Hubbard was most anxious about his safety - May 1980. Mary Sue was a convicted felon and her husband was an un-indicted co-conspirator. Mary Sue was on her way to prison, and her husband was on psychoactive medication, in other words, "psych drugs" to Scientologists.

So, probably, Hubbard was high when he wrote this, which would explain his mentioning the Kabbala, which, as far as I know, he had never mentioned before.

It appears that Bill Robertson was aware of this OT 8 theory and his OT 8 is similar in theory.


"Evil beings, outside the MEST universe, are stopping Scientology from working."

LOL! The big news and discovery of 2023 in the wog world is the fact that beings (souls and groups of souls) operate outside the MEST universe to namipulate the Matrix here on Earth. Apparently the wog world has discovered "Sources" and the "awareness of Sources".

Dolores Canon facilitators and christian therapists for "Soul Contracts Regression" can take you there.
 
In the video at the bottom of the article (by Elena Danaan) you can see how Marcabians (Enki the Anunnaki) is being presented as the "Christ Consciousness" that is going to stage the "Second Coming". At the 33:13 minuets mark, Elena explains that Jesus (Jeshua) was a Marcabian (Anunnaki) hybrid. Elena at the 39:57 is saying that Enki will return as the Christ Consciousness [the Second Coming], because Enki is of the same bloodline as Jesus.
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Below are excerpts of LRH's "OT VIII Student Briefing", where he explains his role to stop the Marcabian's "Second Coming".

WARNING, contains OT III stuff.

Quote:
HCO BULLETIN OF 5 MAY 1980

What follows is a story that has been withheld, for reasons which will soon be obvious, until such time as there were enough OTs that something could be done about it. That time Is now. It is not a nice or a pretty story. but I trust that having arrived on the OT VIII Course you are ready to hear it. You have undoubtedly heard pieces of data over the years that hinted at the greater untold reality of my mission here on Earth. but the story was never written, nor spoken in its entirety due to security problems that have unfortunately always plagued the organization.

Some eighty-odd million years ago Earth time (it actually dates at 78,395,042) plans were drawn by a group outside the MEST universe for the eventual takeover of a good portion of this universe. Not a particularly large nor Imaginative crew, their exterior perspective, however, gives them considerable advantage over the time-bound beings of the MEST universe. Borrowing from earlier operations such as Helatrobus, they conceived an ongoing implant, some portions of which have been fairly faithfully rendered in parts of the Bible. This implant, laid in by carefully controlled genetic mutation at Incident Two of OT Ill and periodically reinforced by controlled historic events since then, makes it effectively impossible for beings on the more heavily affected planets such as Earth to become free. It causes progressive genetic "evolution" that gives the subject population greater and greater susceptibility to the telepathic impingement and direction of the controllers. In its final stage the progression becomes almost geometric, and it is this final stage that we are rapidly approaching.

Another aspect of this Genetic Entity-line implant is that the body becomes in effect a sort of theta trap that kicks in heavily on the being should he attempt to expand his horizons beyond that of pure physical universe reality. There can be temporary key-outs which we have all experienced in varying degrees, but until this area is handled it can honestly be said that there is no hope for continued expansion. The good news is that once this is run out, expansion becomes rather effortless and almost automatic.

No doubt you are familiar with the Revelations section of the Bible where various events are predicted. Also mentioned Is a brief period of time in which an arch-enemy of Christ, referred to as the anti-Christ, will reign and his opinions will have sway. All this makes for very fantastic, entertaining reading but there is truth in it. This anti-Christ represents the forces of Lucifer (literally, the "light bearer" or "light bringer"), Lucifer being a mythical representation of the forces of enlightenment, the Galactic Confederacy. My mission could be said to fulfill the Biblical promise represented by this brief anti-Christ period. During this period there is a fleeting opportunity for the whole scenario to be effectively derailed, which would make it impossible for the mass Marcabian landing (Second Coming) to take place. The Second Coming is designed, among other things, to trigger a rapid series of destructive events.

With the exception of the original Buddhism, virtually all religions of any consequence on this planet, mono and pantheistic alike, have been instruments to speed the progress of this "evolution of consciousness" and bring about the eventual enslavement of mankind. As you know, Siddhartha Gautama never claimed to be anything more than a man. Having caught on to this operation, he postulated his own return as Metteyya, part of which prophecy will have been fulfilled upon the passing of L. Ron Hubbard.

For those of you whose Christian toes I may have stepped on, let me take the opportunity to disabuse you of some lovely myths. For instance, the historic Jesus was not nearly the sainted figure he has been made out to be. In addition to being a lover of young boys and men, he was given to uncontrollable bursts of temper and hatred that belied the general message of love, understanding and other typical Marcab PR. You have only to look at the history his teachings inspired, to see where it all inevitably leads. It Is historic fact and yet man still clings to the ideal, so deep and insidious is the biologic implanting.

It Is a good joke that the Galactic Confederacy is associated with the Serpent in the Garden, the beast and other emissaries of the "Prince of Darkness". Yet in certain passages and esoteric interpretations of the Bible (much of which has been taken out and effectively suppressed for centuries) as well as the Cabbalah, the truth reveals itself quite nicely for the clever and the ungullible.

I had an inkling, but only that, of the insidiousness of this material as far back as 1945. Later, in charcteristic over-optimism, I thought that R6 would be the end of it. But that was followed by NOTs and the Purification Rundown and still the string continued to unwind with the ball at the end of it just out of sight.

I will soon leave this world only to return and complete my mission with another Identity. Although I long to stretch my arms back in repose on some distant star in some distant galaxy. It appears that is one dream that will have to wait. But my return depends on people like you doing these materials thoroughly and completely so that there will be a genetically uncontaminated body for me to pick up and resume where I left off. A body free of religious mania, right/wrong dichotomy and synthetic karma. The job ahead is far too tough to even contemplate doing with your standard -- courtesy of certain other-dimensional players and their Marcab pieces, many of whom are right here In the general populace -- genetically altered body.

Without the biogenetic meddling of those who stand outside time (who cannot yet directly influence our world and must work through others) the dwindling spiral is not nearly as automatic and self-perpetuating as it appears. There are regions even in isolated parts of the Milky Way where poets are free to poet and magicians can paint reality with their magic wands and exteriorize without body kickback. But these areas unfortunately are fewer and fewer.

I will return not as a religious leader but a political one. That happens to be the requisite beingness for the task at hand. I will not be known to most of you, my activities misunderstood by many, yet along with your constant effort in the theta band I will effectively postpone and then halt a series of events designed to make happy slaves of us all.
End Quote:

Video by Elena Danaan:

Understanding Anunnaki History, the Return of Enki and the Impact on UFO Disclosure

Hubbard did in fact spew that nonsense. There have been more than enough reports corroborating this. And it's not a stretch to recognize how Hubbard would want to refute any reason to believe in any god other than him, or that he could be so self-deluded as to think he could pull it off. But seeing someone trying to present a case that "Hubbard was right?" Priceless.
 
This 1980 OT 8's "biogeneric meddling" by beings outside the physical universe is theory with no practical.

The first OT 8, of the late 1960s - "total power," etc. - displayed on Scientology's, then, Grade Chart, did not exist; although Hubbard said it did, and Scientologists, of course, believed Hubbard. This nonexistent late 1960s OT 8 was used to generate millions of dollars for Scientology and used to recruit. It also was used to motivate people to hand over their minds to "Hubbard Guidance Centers" for washing, rinsing, and re-washing. Plus, of course, Hubbardian implanting.

Then, years later, came the enigmatic 1980 OT 8 theory.

Finally, years later (around 1986), appeared New OT 8 which had been cut and pasted together by, then, senior Case Supervisor Ray Mithoff. That would be OT 8 number three for which the End Result - to paraphrase - is, "I don't know who I am but would like to find out."

This 1980 OT 8 theory says, or implies, the processes of the Grade Chart didn't work because of this meddling, and then provides no practical.


hqdefault.jpg

This would be very bad for morale, and bad for business, and it's no wonder Miscavige made it disappear.

*​

David Mayo told me about how, during one of his visits to the Hubbard residence, Pat Broeker excitedly handed him the text of the OT 8 theory of 1980. According to Mayo, when he returned to his office he placed it in the circular file cabinet (trash can).

David Mayo was surprised that Hubbard would have him create an OT 8 advanced course based on a couple of pages of weird "theory." He assumed Hubbard would want to create the section 8 advanced course himself.

But no, and stranger still, this was the period when Hubbard was most anxious about his safety - May 1980. Mary Sue was a convicted felon and her husband was an un-indicted co-conspirator. Mary Sue was on her way to prison, and her husband was on psychoactive medication, in other words, "psych drugs" to Scientologists.

So, probably, Hubbard was high when he wrote this, which would explain his mentioning the Kabbala, which, as far as I know, he had never mentioned before.

It appears that Bill Robertson was aware of this OT 8 theory and his OT 8 is similar in theory.


"Evil beings, outside the MEST universe, are stopping Scientology from working."

LOL! If David Mayo received from Pat Brocker's hand the text of the OT 8 theory of 1980 (to develop OT 8), he (Mayo) should have first word clear every word before throwing it into the trash can.

Unfortunately, Mayo is not with us to be grabbed and thrown into a lake (overboarding) for failing to clear the words of the text [edit: and return it to LRH for query].
 
Hubbard did in fact spew that nonsense. There have been more than enough reports corroborating this. And it's not a stretch to recognize how Hubbard would want to refute any reason to believe in any god other than him, or that he could be so self-deluded as to think he could pull it off. But seeing someone trying to present a case that "Hubbard was right?" Priceless.

LOL! You Q and Aid, you didn't answer the question. Who is PT Barnum?
 
LOL! You Q and Aid, you didn't answer the question. Who is PT Barnum?
"Q and aid" :roflmao: You seem quite adept at websearching for what you want to find. Look it up, Sherlock.
 
This 1980 OT 8's "biogeneric meddling" by beings outside the physical universe is theory with no practical.

The first OT 8, of the late 1960s - "total power," etc. - displayed on Scientology's, then, Grade Chart, did not exist; although Hubbard said it did, and Scientologists, of course, believed Hubbard. This nonexistent late 1960s OT 8 was used to generate millions of dollars for Scientology and used to recruit. It also was used to motivate people to hand over their minds to "Hubbard Guidance Centers" for washing, rinsing, and re-washing. Plus, of course, Hubbardian implanting.

Then, years later, came the enigmatic 1980 OT 8 theory.

Finally, years later (around 1986), appeared New OT 8 which had been cut and pasted together by, then, senior Case Supervisor Ray Mithoff. That would be OT 8 number three for which the End Result - to paraphrase - is, "I don't know who I am but would like to find out."

This 1980 OT 8 theory says, or implies, the processes of the Grade Chart didn't work because of this meddling, and then provides no practical.


hqdefault.jpg

This would be very bad for morale, and bad for business, and it's no wonder Miscavige made it disappear.

*​

David Mayo told me about how, during one of his visits to the Hubbard residence, Pat Broeker excitedly handed him the text of the OT 8 theory of 1980. According to Mayo, when he returned to his office he placed it in the circular file cabinet (trash can).

David Mayo was surprised that Hubbard would have him create an OT 8 advanced course based on a couple of pages of weird "theory." He assumed Hubbard would want to create the section 8 advanced course himself.

But no, and stranger still, this was the period when Hubbard was most anxious about his safety - May 1980. Mary Sue was a convicted felon and her husband was an un-indicted co-conspirator. Mary Sue was on her way to prison, and her husband was on psychoactive medication, in other words, "psych drugs" to Scientologists.

So, probably, Hubbard was high when he wrote this, which would explain his mentioning the Kabbala, which, as far as I know, he had never mentioned before.

It appears that Bill Robertson was aware of this OT 8 theory and his OT 8 is similar in theory.


"Evil beings, outside the MEST universe, are stopping Scientology from working."

Veda, you would make HEADLINES is you say on video the following: "David Mayo told me about how, during one of his visits to the Hubbard residence, Pat Broeker excitedly handed him the text of the OT 8 theory of 1980. According to Mayo, when he returned to his office he placed it in the circular file cabinet (trash can)."

That would indicate that there were indeed notes from LRH for the OT 8 level. And probably there were for OT 9 to 15.

LRH might have been senile in 1980, but not in the 70s when he said that he had OT 8 - 15 researched.
 
This 1980 OT 8's "biogeneric meddling" by beings outside the physical universe is theory with no practical.

The first OT 8, of the late 1960s - "total power," etc. - displayed on Scientology's, then, Grade Chart, did not exist; although Hubbard said it did, and Scientologists, of course, believed Hubbard. This nonexistent late 1960s OT 8 was used to generate millions of dollars for Scientology and used to recruit. It also was used to motivate people to hand over their minds to "Hubbard Guidance Centers" for washing, rinsing, and re-washing. Plus, of course, Hubbardian implanting.

Then, years later, came the enigmatic 1980 OT 8 theory.

Finally, years later (around 1986), appeared New OT 8 which had been cut and pasted together by, then, senior Case Supervisor Ray Mithoff. That would be OT 8 number three for which the End Result - to paraphrase - is, "I don't know who I am but would like to find out."

This 1980 OT 8 theory says, or implies, the processes of the Grade Chart didn't work because of this meddling, and then provides no practical.


hqdefault.jpg

This would be very bad for morale, and bad for business, and it's no wonder Miscavige made it disappear.

*​

David Mayo told me about how, during one of his visits to the Hubbard residence, Pat Broeker excitedly handed him the text of the OT 8 theory of 1980. According to Mayo, when he returned to his office he placed it in the circular file cabinet (trash can).

David Mayo was surprised that Hubbard would have him create an OT 8 advanced course based on a couple of pages of weird "theory." He assumed Hubbard would want to create the section 8 advanced course himself.

But no, and stranger still, this was the period when Hubbard was most anxious about his safety - May 1980. Mary Sue was a convicted felon and her husband was an un-indicted co-conspirator. Mary Sue was on her way to prison, and her husband was on psychoactive medication, in other words, "psych drugs" to Scientologists.

So, probably, Hubbard was high when he wrote this, which would explain his mentioning the Kabbala, which, as far as I know, he had never mentioned before.

It appears that Bill Robertson was aware of this OT 8 theory and his OT 8 is similar in theory.


"Evil beings, outside the MEST universe, are stopping Scientology from working."
Veda, is this a quote from Bill Robertson? or it is just a description of the "Theory for OT 8"?

Quote: "Evil beings, outside the MEST universe, are stopping Scientology from working."
 
Even if it is Steve Fishman fake, it is developing very close to reality. The Second Comming of the Marcabians, the evolution of DNA are the hot topics today.

Seems there's far more evidence that it's not fake than that it is.

This thread has lots of info,


OT VIII - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org

Church of Scientology lawyers have asserted that the OT VIII documents posted by Lerma are fake, however during the copyright battle over Lerma’s web pages, the Church of Scientology's attorney Kendrick Moxon identified the "Antichrist" document as copyrighted material.[2][8] George White, a public Scientologist who had received OT VIII in the summer of 1988, also asserts the document is authentic (and states that the course cost him US$28,000 at the time).[2] Frank Oliver, a former operative with Scientology's Office of Special Affairs, reports having discovered the document in the church's archives.[2] Lawrence Wollersheim, a notable defector, claims they are genuine: "Two sets of defectors, at different times in different parts of the world, came out with those documents", he says. "I've been working with defectors for fifteen years. I have never dealt with anyone as afraid of having their identity revealed as the people who came out and verified those documents."[9] Jesse Prince, former second-in-command of Scientology's Religious Technology Center, reports that OTVIII was revised after early participants were "horribly upset" by the content.[10][2]
 
Seems there's far more evidence that it's not fake than that it is.

This thread has lots of info,


OT VIII - Wikipedia
en.wikipedia.org

Church of Scientology lawyers have asserted that the OT VIII documents posted by Lerma are fake, however during the copyright battle over Lerma’s web pages, the Church of Scientology's attorney Kendrick Moxon identified the "Antichrist" document as copyrighted material.[2][8] George White, a public Scientologist who had received OT VIII in the summer of 1988, also asserts the document is authentic (and states that the course cost him US$28,000 at the time).[2] Frank Oliver, a former operative with Scientology's Office of Special Affairs, reports having discovered the document in the church's archives.[2] Lawrence Wollersheim, a notable defector, claims they are genuine: "Two sets of defectors, at different times in different parts of the world, came out with those documents", he says. "I've been working with defectors for fifteen years. I have never dealt with anyone as afraid of having their identity revealed as the people who came out and verified those documents."[9] Jesse Prince, former second-in-command of Scientology's Religious Technology Center, reports that OTVIII was revised after early participants were "horribly upset" by the content.[10][2]


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Thank you Kendrick Moxon...

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Quote: "I have never dealt with anyone as afraid of having their identity revealed as the people who came out and verified those documents. Jesse Prince, former second-in-command of Scientology's Religious Technology Center, reports that OTVIII was revised after early participants were 'horribly upset' by the content".

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