L. Ron Hubbard 2.0 hits on best scheme yet: His own Scientology Sea Org!

[Karen#1]

TONY ORTEGA
Excerpt:

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It’s been more than three years now that Lafayette Ronald Hubbard — his actual legal name, although we also know him by his original moniker, “Justin Craig” — ended up in a Tennessee jail awaiting trial on numerous serious charges, including several that he’s picked up since he’s been in custody.

Craig had a long criminal record even before he ended up in the Anderson County jail in October 2021, but he had also spent some time in the Pacific Northwest, where he managed to convince a number of “independent Scientologists” (people who practice Scientology outside the official church) that he was the returned L. Ron Hubbard (1911-1986), the founder of the Dianetics/Scientology movement.

We had an interesting time in 2018 messaging with Craig and revealing how extensive his criminal background was, including prison time in California for some attempted carjackings and a penchant for violent retaliation. He didn’t seem very convincing as the reincarnated Hubbard — he didn’t know what Ron actually called his third and final wife, for example — but to this day there are some indie Scientologists who are convinced that LRH has returned to Earth, and that “Lafayette” has actually improved on Scientology’s “technology” in a new form called “Esperianism.” (He seems to be calling it “Expedited Scientology” now.)

And, believe it or not, some of those ardent followers who are convinced Craig is the returned LRH send him money in jail, month after month.

He communicates with those followers through social media, and we’ve posted a number of his announcements here over the last couple of years. We thought we’d show you the latest, which is pretty remarkable even by Justin Craig’s standards.

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L. Ron Hubbard 2.0 hits on best scheme yet: His own Scientology Sea Org!

It’s been more than three years now that Lafayette Ronald Hubbard — his actual legal name, although we also know him by his original moniker, “Justin Craig” — ended up in a Tennessee jail awaiting trial on numerous serious charges, including several that he’s picked up since he’s been in custody.

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[PirateAndBum]

TO ALL EXPEDITED SCIENTOLOGISTS: REESTABLISHMENT OF THE SEA ORG

In the coming months we will be reestablishing the SEA ORG and calling all to serve once more. This should not affect public operations and will not be so crazy as to ask people to uproot their current lives. It will mean re-signing contracts and being willing to support me and Scientology to the best of their ability. And the reason I am doing this is simple: BECAUSE IT IS NEEDED WITH THE RELEASE OF THE ESP LEVELS. These are so powerful that it is going to take the best of the best to even run them (let alone deliver them on someone else). There is also the added factor that these have the potential of HARMING one if not done properly: YES, YOU HEARD THAT CORRECTLY: “DAMAGE SOMEONE SPIRITUALLY.” I will not go into all that now but you get the point. So, we need those who are the best at what we do to get the show on the road. I'll update you more as I figure it out. Love, Ron

Hip Hip Hooray!

I'm getting the point all right.

The "best of the best" doesn't seem to include Justin.

 

[I M Dex]

I find this guy, with his worst-of-the-worst resume, and the fact of his having followers and supporters fascinating. And it's so nostalgic to trot out the "we have to keep this confidential because it must be tightly supervised and can be damaging beyond all imagination not done with precision, or on anyone who hasn't attained our level necessary to be able to handle it (and not because to anyone not yet hopelessly indoctrinated, its patently ridiculous)" party line. I do so enjoy the oldies but goodies.

 

[Karen#1]

I checked in with Chat GPT on Justin Craig ie. L Ron Hubbard 2
Here is the response :

1. Claim Evaluation:
The claim that Justin Craig is L. Ron Hubbard reincarnated (or “L. Rom Hubbard 2.0”) is extraordinary. Evaluating such a claim requires separating:

• Psychological/Psychiatric considerations – Such identity claims can stem from delusions, narcissistic personality traits, or mental illness, especially when expressed obsessively or within a criminal context.
• Religious/cultural framing – Some belief systems include reincarnation, and Scientology itself flirts with the idea of past lives, but mainstream Scientology has not endorsed Craig’s claim.
• Motivational angle – It’s possible Craig is making this claim for attention, notoriety, or manipulation, especially if he has a history of fraud or grandiosity.

2. Context from Tony Ortega:
Tony Ortega is a well-regarded journalist who covers Scientology critically and has built a reputation for detailed investigative reporting. If Ortega has written about Justin Craig again, it's likely because Craig is causing a stir—perhaps through lawsuits, letters, jailhouse proclamations, or attempting to influence Scientologists from the outside.
3. Public and Legal Relevance:
Unless this man begins to influence followers, infiltrate Church structures, or inspire copycats, this likely remains a curiosity or a fringe case. The Church of Scientology would likely see him as a nuisance or threat rather than a legitimate spiritual successor.
4. Cultural/Social Dynamics:
In broader culture, these claims get attention because of:

• The public’s fascination with Scientology
• The notorious figure of L. Ron Hubbard himself
• A criminal element adding to the drama

In short: This sounds more like a case of a delusional or attention-seeking individual, rather than anything that would be taken seriously by Scientologists or legal authorities. But in the world of cults, prisons, and alternative belief systems, fringe characters like this can occasionally attract small followings or media attention.
Would you like a quick summary of what Tony Ortega reported in today’s post about him?

(see next post)

 

[I M Dex]

I checked in with Chat GPT on Justin Craig ie. L Ron Hubbard 2
Here is the response :

1. Claim Evaluation:
The claim that Justin Craig is L. Ron Hubbard reincarnated (or “L. Rom Hubbard 2.0”) is extraordinary. Evaluating such a claim requires separating:

• Psychological/Psychiatric considerations – Such identity claims can stem from delusions, narcissistic personality traits, or mental illness, especially when expressed obsessively or within a criminal context.
• Religious/cultural framing – Some belief systems include reincarnation, and Scientology itself flirts with the idea of past lives, but mainstream Scientology has not endorsed Craig’s claim.
• Motivational angle – It’s possible Craig is making this claim for attention, notoriety, or manipulation, especially if he has a history of fraud or grandiosity.

2. Context from Tony Ortega:
Tony Ortega is a well-regarded journalist who covers Scientology critically and has built a reputation for detailed investigative reporting. If Ortega has written about Justin Craig again, it's likely because Craig is causing a stir—perhaps through lawsuits, letters, jailhouse proclamations, or attempting to influence Scientologists from the outside.
3. Public and Legal Relevance:
Unless this man begins to influence followers, infiltrate Church structures, or inspire copycats, this likely remains a curiosity or a fringe case. The Church of Scientology would likely see him as a nuisance or threat rather than a legitimate spiritual successor.
4. Cultural/Social Dynamics:
In broader culture, these claims get attention because of:

• The public’s fascination with Scientology
• The notorious figure of L. Ron Hubbard himself
• A criminal element adding to the drama

In short: This sounds more like a case of a delusional or attention-seeking individual, rather than anything that would be taken seriously by Scientologists or legal authorities. But in the world of cults, prisons, and alternative belief systems, fringe characters like this can occasionally attract small followings or media attention.
Would you like a quick summary of what Tony Ortega reported in today’s post about him?

(see next post)

Missing from that response is any mention of the fact that this is an extremely violent drug dealing career criminal presenting himself as someone who while yucky in his own catalog of ways did not manifest those proclivities, and with the spiritual solutions to all that compromises one's Godliness, and that would seem to be contradictory.

 

[Type4_PTS]

I find this guy, with his worst-of-the-worst resume, and the fact of his having followers and supporters fascinating. And it's so nostalgic to trot out the "we have to keep this confidential because it must be tightly supervised and can be damaging beyond all imagination not done with precision, or on anyone who hasn't attained our level necessary to be able to handle it (and not because to anyone not yet hopelessly indoctrinated, its patently ridiculous)" party line. I do so enjoy the oldies but goodies.

I'm cross-posting something I just wrote in another thread ("A Study of Pseudo-Sea Orgs in Galactic Religious History"), as this thread seems like a good destination for it:

Had Justin Craig (AKA L. Ron Hubbard 2.0) waited a few years to come out as LRH, he could have succeeded in convincing many more people he was the real deal. AI tools have advanced to the point where it would be easy to write whatever he wanted to write and have AI convert it into the unique style of Hubbard. These days, he could even create videos showing him speaking in the style of Hubbard.

Those things could be done in such a convincing fashion that he could have convinced some active Sea Org members he was the real deal.

 

[I M Dex]

I'm cross-posting something I just wrote in another thread ("A Study of Pseudo-Sea Orgs in Galactic Religious History"), as this thread seems like a good destination for it:

Had Justin Craig (AKA L. Ron Hubbard 2.0) waited a few years to come out as LRH, he could have succeeded in convincing many more people he was the real deal. AI tools have advanced to the point where it would be easy to write whatever he wanted to write and have AI convert it into the unique style of Hubbard. These days, he could even create videos showing him speaking in the style of Hubbard.

Those things could be done in such a convincing fashion that he could have convinced some active Sea Org members he was the real deal.

I hadn’t considered this before now, but convincing Scientologists to believe something. “cosmic“ That falls within the realm of Scientology Beliefs and dogma is a bit like shooting fish in a barrel. They are predisposed to eagerly eat it up. So much so as to willfully ignore all the obvious contradictions.

 

[Hatshepsut]

A friend of mine was treated badly by Justin whey they both lived at Pat Krenik's property in Washington. She was afraid of him and moved. I never bothered to read his stuff, but did see his youtube video. I wasn't convinced.

As far as his putting together some other Sea Org type group, the fish he's trying to catch, are already averse to groups. Once through the mill, they're probably avoiding people just like him. Any past ensemble can have its library of experiences.....an earmarked drive for that game only. Could be that members all think they're each other.

A dozen films pop to mind just now, where the outcast becomes savior to his milieu. At least Justin isn't Spartacus or Mad Max.

 

[guanoloco]

This Justin-Come-Lately is at the very least L. Ron Hubbard 3.0.

Spiritologie FAQ

Isn’t Spiritolog y the perfect word for what you are doing? A word like spiritology should be reserved for a science of the spirit in general, not for a particular approach or set of methods. Just...

www.mgtconcepts.com

Who was he really, this Andreas Buttler?

Andreas Buttler, a German actor and musician, was the author of the book Spiritologie who believed he was the re-incarnation of L. Ron Hubbard and subsequently became the founder of a movement called Spiritologie with the aim to restore and simplify Scientology.

Was it true that Spiritologie was not Scientology as Andreas Buttler claimed?

Yes and no. Yes, because of its outspoken criticism against practices of the church of Scientology and no, because its essence consisted of practices partly borrowed from and based on the Scientology philosophy, this was never really denied.

What actually happened to Andreas Buttler?

Andreas Buttler formally withdrew from any commitments in relation to Spiritologie for personal reasons, which out of respect for his privacy we will not discuss.



More, from here:

Overheard in the FreeZone: Indie Hubbardism, one thought at a time | The Underground Bunker

tonyortega.org

Jan 3: “In 2008 at the last broad Freezone Convention held in Europe near Magdeburg, Germany, a young man by the name of Andreas Buttler presented himself as the reincarnation of LRH. It was on the 9th of May that year, that he presented his book SPIRITOLOGIE.

 

[I M Dex]

I am wondering if this is not the right time to reveal myself to the world as Lou Costello 2.0.

 

[I M Dex]

It occurs to me that it looks like he's taking a page from Miscavige's playbook. Extracting donations from his "whales", such as they are. He's calling it a "Sea Org", but there's no requisite commitment of time or activity, just commit to supporting "the cause", which, practically speaking, amounts to financial support and promoting and defending, which is pretty much limited to preaching to their own choir, the sole result being the flock stays engaged.

 

[The_Fixer]

TONY ORTEGA
Excerpt:

​

It’s been more than three years now that Lafayette Ronald Hubbard — his actual legal name, although we also know him by his original moniker, “Justin Craig” — ended up in a Tennessee jail awaiting trial on numerous serious charges, including several that he’s picked up since he’s been in custody.


Craig had a long criminal record even before he ended up in the Anderson County jail in October 2021, but he had also spent some time in the Pacific Northwest, where he managed to convince a number of “independent Scientologists” (people who practice Scientology outside the official church) that he was the returned L. Ron Hubbard (1911-1986), the founder of the Dianetics/Scientology movement.

We had an interesting time in 2018 messaging with Craig and revealing how extensive his criminal background was, including prison time in California for some attempted carjackings and a penchant for violent retaliation. He didn’t seem very convincing as the reincarnated Hubbard — he didn’t know what Ron actually called his third and final wife, for example — but to this day there are some indie Scientologists who are convinced that LRH has returned to Earth, and that “Lafayette” has actually improved on Scientology’s “technology” in a new form called “Esperianism.” (He seems to be calling it “Expedited Scientology” now.)

And, believe it or not, some of those ardent followers who are convinced Craig is the returned LRH send him money in jail, month after month.

He communicates with those followers through social media, and we’ve posted a number of his announcements here over the last couple of years. We thought we’d show you the latest, which is pretty remarkable even by Justin Craig’s standards.

READ MORE

L. Ron Hubbard 2.0 hits on best scheme yet: His own Scientology Sea Org!

It’s been more than three years now that Lafayette Ronald Hubbard — his actual legal name, although we also know him by his original moniker, “Justin Craig” — ended up in a Tennessee jail awaiting trial on numerous serious charges, including several that he’s picked up since he’s been in custody.

tonyortega.substack.com

Just proves that old adage. There one born every minute.

Ole Davy would probably like to take a trip to him and box him around the ears for stealing his suckers.

 

[Hatshepsut]

This Justin-Come-Lately is at the very least L. Ron Hubbard 3.0.

Spiritologie FAQ

Isn’t Spiritolog y the perfect word for what you are doing? A word like spiritology should be reserved for a science of the spirit in general, not for a particular approach or set of methods. Just...

www.mgtconcepts.com

Who was he really, this Andreas Buttler?

Andreas Buttler, a German actor and musician, was the author of the book Spiritologie who believed he was the re-incarnation of L. Ron Hubbard and subsequently became the founder of a movement called Spiritologie with the aim to restore and simplify Scientology.

Was it true that Spiritologie was not Scientology as Andreas Buttler claimed?

Yes and no. Yes, because of its outspoken criticism against practices of the church of Scientology and no, because its essence consisted of practices partly borrowed from and based on the Scientology philosophy, this was never really denied.

What actually happened to Andreas Buttler?

Andreas Buttler formally withdrew from any commitments in relation to Spiritologie for personal reasons, which out of respect for his privacy we will not discuss.



More, from here:

Overheard in the FreeZone: Indie Hubbardism, one thought at a time | The Underground Bunker

tonyortega.org

Jan 3: “In 2008 at the last broad Freezone Convention held in Europe near Magdeburg, Germany, a young man by the name of Andreas Buttler presented himself as the reincarnation of LRH. It was on the 9th of May that year, that he presented his book SPIRITOLOGIE.

Didn't Ralph Hilton use the name Revenius, alluding to LRH returned?

This causes a malaise in my book. Beings appropriating other souls for themselves or 'as' themselves harks back to some darker traditions. Sanity is found in being separate. LOL. I just realized we do this all the live long day. What am I fussin about.