Australian Scientologists 1980s to 2010 - What are they doing now?

[GCaldwell]

I am curious as to what former Scientologists are doing now . Are they quietly moving away from the church? I do no see them on freezone sites or the like. But they seem to be on social media etc.... but I sense they drifted away in any cases rather than formally leaving. Is this a correct assumption? I know some significant members left over the past 20 years,, some in light of the Xenophon initiatives. However I was wondering if any of the dedicated Sydney staff from the 90s remained and are still there - or simply just stepped away.

Cheers

 

[Enthetan]

I’m not Australian, but I just quietly faded away. Stopped going to events, stopped answering org calls.

 

[haiqu]

I predate that by many years and can't really speak for people who were on staff in the 90s. I noticed a distinct exodus in the early 80s but didn't come to my senses until I had exhausted the last possible chance by going to Flag.

 

[Enthetan]

I predate that by many years and can't really speak for people who were on staff in the 90s. I noticed a distinct exodus in the early 80s but didn't come to my senses until I had exhausted the last possible chance by going to Flag.

I think the expulsion of David Mayo caused severe cognitive dissonance with a lot of Scientologists.

Mayo had worked directly and closely with LRH for years. LRH “not noticing” Mayo as an SP cast grave doubts on LRH’s omniscience.

 

[ShaunaOhh]

Hey, I'm a 2nd gen born the 80s, in the SO late 90s and had gone offline by early 00s. I basically drifted away and over time reconnected with my folks with harsh boundary of never speaking Scn or their language and they heard my view of it being child abuse. I think I found the very fine line of holding my tongue just enough, my mum being a hard nut and me being a right pain in their ass when they so much as push. Sam Heggie recently moved heaven and earth to avoid pissing me off.
Alot of my gen wouldn't say their scientologists, but they also won't and can't say they aren't. I think they're like most people with religion, you drift away as you get older. Very few of my gen are "onlines" anyway.

 

[GCaldwell]

Interesting to hear that. I was never fully entrenched in the culture and social circles but was involved enough. Non of my family was involved. You would think that with all the ARC training and attempts to get their relationships in working order, that quasi scientologists would still make some effort to connect and be real... Overall during my last days I considered many scios to be clones of each other and not really real. Some would be kinda human so to speak. It is interesting to see where they have ended up. So much effort to be upstat and engaged, and now they are shadows of the people they were actually trying to be. Or perhaps just in the own cliques with other semi-quasi-scios....

 

[Enthetan]

Overall during my last days I considered many scios to be clones of each other and not really real.

Scientology requires members to never really examine Scientology critically.

 

[The_Fixer]

Interesting to hear that. I was never fully entrenched in the culture and social circles but was involved enough. Non of my family was involved. You would think that with all the ARC training and attempts to get their relationships in working order, that quasi scientologists would still make some effort to connect and be real... Overall during my last days I considered many scios to be clones of each other and not really real. Some would be kinda human so to speak. It is interesting to see where they have ended up. So much effort to be upstat and engaged, and now they are shadows of the people they were actually trying to be. Or perhaps just in the own cliques with other semi-quasi-scios....

Similar for me. I never really fully immersed myself into the social arena there, just mainly hung out with a group.
Some of the people there were a little too serious and intense for me. Others knew how to have a little fun, but the overall vibe wasn't that endearing to me.

It wasn't until I left on a leave of absence that I realised I was starting to relax a little more and getting around to going back sort of got put off more and more until I didn't think about it any more. I had taken on a job out of town and started t feel that no one was looking over my shoulder any more.

Some of the people in there could be a little weird though.

 

[Scooter]

Having been off this board for probably years I reckon I can safely state that most ex.s quietly fade from view and just get on with living life. Most don't talk about their experiences and don't like others talking about it either due to the traumas re-surfacing (imo)

The last time I checked (probably 18 months ago) the few rusted-ons in Sydney were still there if they were still alive. Sad but true.

The successful escapees are loose and intending to stay that way

 

[JackStraw]

I think the expulsion of David Mayo caused severe cognitive dissonance with a lot of Scientologists.

Mayo had worked directly and closely with LRH for years. LRH “not noticing” Mayo as an SP cast grave doubts on LRH’s omniscience.

From what I remember all the staff of "Olde St. Hill", the only exception being Hubbard himself, have been declared "SP" by Captain Fantastic himself, David Miscavige. In other words, according to DM, Hubbard only hired SPs to staff St. Hill!

 

[Enthetan]

From what I remember all the staff of "Olde St. Hill", the only exception being Hubbard himself, have been declared "SP" by Captain Fantastic himself, David Miscavige. In other words, according to DM, Hubbard only hired SPs to staff St. Hill!

DM methodically eliminated anyone who could be regarded as an "opinion leader" in the field, to eliminate the possibility that an old-timer could say "What DM is doing contradicts LRH!"

Either declared, or sentenced to the Hole, to eventually die in obscurity.

Even Norman Starkey.

L. Ron Hubbard's estate trustee died in 2019 and Scientology didn't want anyone to know

Bit of a bombshell from Mitch Brisker last night at his YouTube channel: He says that Norman Starkey, former captain of the yacht Apollo and L.

tonyortega.substack.com

 

[I M Dex]

DM methodically eliminated anyone who could be regarded as an "opinion leader" in the field, to eliminate the possibility that an old-timer could say "What DM is doing contradicts LRH!"

Either declared, or sentenced to the Hole, to eventually die in obscurity.

Even Norman Starkey.

L. Ron Hubbard's estate trustee died in 2019 and Scientology didn't want anyone to know

Bit of a bombshell from Mitch Brisker last night at his YouTube channel: He says that Norman Starkey, former captain of the yacht Apollo and L.

tonyortega.substack.com

I don't think that hits the mark. Nobody in the cult is going to say anything like that. What DM is doing is much more like what Hubbard did, namely destroying and/or banishing anyone who could shine too brightly in his kingdom. The only Scientologists DM publicly lauds are the donation "whales", who show up for their moment on stage and fade back into the background. He's always gone after the big names, erasing or degrading their public presence.