** The space planes (I'll call them "X-planes") carried captured thetans, not bodies. Per LRH they were sprayed with a supercold mixture of glycol and alcohol to make them so cold they couldn't even think of escaping. T
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Despite that being a tour de force debunking of the logistical and physics impossibilities of the Xenu transport story, I respectfully submit that there is one overlooked factor which would provide a unified theory that would explain how the DC-8s were rather easily able to exceed the speed of light.
HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
HCO BULLETIN OF 5 NOVEMBER 1967
CONFIDENTIAL
BARRIERS TO UNDERSTANDING OT III
It has been reported that some Pre OTs studying Advanced Operating Thetan Level III have encountered what appears to be an "inconsistency" in the calculation of DC-8 spaceships engaged in the transport portion of the cataclysmic Xenu incident 75M years ago. Upon researching this further, it was determined that those who were struggling to understand the Advanced Section III materials typically had at least one of the 3 barriers to study.
However, in certain (rare) instances a 4th barrier to study ("Generalities") was discovered with those having engineering degrees due to being loaded up with false data stemming from Einstein's oddball theories contained in his "General Theory of Relativity". Therein lies the problem in plain view—the first word, "general" which logically leads the student into profoundly contra-survival generalities.
The remedy to this study barrier is therefore to provide the student with a "Specific Theory of Relativity" which rather easily explains how Xenu's DC-8s were well capable of traveling intergalactic space faster than the speed of light, as follows:
THE TRANSPORT PHASE OF EACH BTs TRAVEL ITINERARY WAS NOT BOOKED UNDER
CONVENTIONAL AIRLINE PROTOCOLS WHICH TYPICALLY ALLOW PAYING PASSENGERS
TO BRING ONE PIECE OF LUGGAGE AND ONE CARRY-ON. IN FACT, BTs WERE PROVIDED
A FREE ONE-WAY TICKET TO EARTH—HOWEVER THIS CAME WITH A HEAVILY ENFORCED
NO-LUGGAGE RESTRICTION. THIS, THEREFORE, VERY SUBSTANTIALLY REDUCED THE
CARGO WEIGHT FOR EACH DC-8, MAKING IT POSSIBLE TO EXCEED THE SPEED OF LIGHT.
With this breakthrough discovery and resolution of generalities, we have eliminated the final barrier for all beings to attain the state of full Operating Thetan on this planet.
That is genius Hoaxy. I never realized until I saw this bulletin you posted that Einstein was a generality-infested wog physicist. Einstein was undoubtedly paid by Big Pharma and the CIA to create his phony theory to argue that the speed of light could not be broken. This false barrier would stop people from looking too closely into FTL CIA space vehicles the Agency acquired by allowing ET's to kidnap humans to enrich their failing ET DNA.
It's the rest of the Xenu story that strikes me as ridiculously implausible. If the problem was overpopulation, why not just get people to emigrate to other unpopulated or less-populated planets? There are plenty of habitable worlds out there, and you've got FTL drive. Offer the colonists some big incentives that'll make them want to do it! I think Hubbard shot himself in the foot with this ridiculous, too-complicated story. I think he could've sold OT III much better if he'd said, "You've got these other thetans in your space, that's the problem. You've got to audit them and get rid of them." People would have found that much easier to accept and it wouldn't seem anywhere near as ridiculous. He didn't have to say where the extra thetans came from, and nobody would've asked.
I have been pitching that precise thing for years as not only the solution to people uncontrollably laughing (with calmag shooting out of their nose) when they hear the word "Scientology"--but also the perfect solution to releasing the UN-RELEASABLE (and non-existent) OT IX and OT X.
I am too lazy right now to try to find the post(s) from the archives where I gave a specific description of how to pitch gullible Scientologists on these miraculous new OT levels. But (very simply) the concept is just this:
MORECOWBELLBTs!
But not just ordinary BTs.
All levels up from wog through the end of OT II handles PLAIN THETANS (i.e. the paying PC)
OT III handles BODY THETANS.
On OT IV, V, VI, VII and OT VIII, the Pre-OT is handling DORMANT BODY THETANS.
Ergo, on OT IX and OT X, what is being addressed is MEST BTs ("MBT").
MBTs are 49% regular thetan and at least 51% MEST. That's the real problem and reason Scientologists who went "full OT" still had incapacitating difficulties operating in the MEST universe.
Ya see, the MEST universe itself and the body and all the MEST energy flows/ridges that impede or completely stop an OT's postulates, well all these various forms of "counter intention" and "stops" derive from these special category BTs.
As the Pre-OT does these mystical levels, they are actually changing the form of the MEST universe to that it becomes less than the THETA universe. When they have eliminated all of their MBTs, they have to demonstrate it by proving that they no longer have any MEST barriers like money. The attest cycle scientifically verifies that by the size of a significant new donation that the Pre-OT makes on their own determinism. If large enough, it confirms that they no longer are "dramatizing scarcity" due to unhandled MBTs.
Once they have paid for both OT IX and OT X, they are entitled to a superconfidential briefing about OT XI, which has the EP of being able to as-is MEST objects and make them disappear in front of people's eyes. To date, the only OTs that have achieved that power are the top registrars who make Pre-OTs' dollars vanish.
That is genius Hoaxy. I never realized until I saw this bulletin you posted that Einstein was a generality-infested wog physicist. Einstein undoubtedly paid by Big Pharma and the CIA to create his phony theory to argue that the speed of light could not be broken. This false barrier would stop people from looking to closely into FTL CIA space vehicles they acquired by allowing ET's to kidnap humans to enrich the failing ET DNA.
The problem, however, is the phenomena LRH discovered called "Static Cling", which accounts for why it requires decades and many hundreds of thousands of dollars for the PreOT to finally rid themselves of all those sticky BTs.
I suppose if static refers to spirit, then yes. If one is at a concert and really crappy music is being played, but everyone is singing along. Next thing you know, you are singing along with them. This is what the crowd of spirits do, sing a song of sleep and "I" am the body. This is what people today sing, that song of the body. Spirits will "cling" to others singing that song. Likewise, everyone with a body had to tune into the body at some point. These spirits (BT), they too tuned in. Everyone together is like a resonating frequency singing the song of the body, each unique body.
Of course it is possible to exceed the speed of light. How else do you think Santa Claus can deliver gifts to children all over the world in just one night?
I knew Ken Ogger (The Pilot) personally. In his book, Super Scio he said the Pilot of the OT 3 incident was an actual person and not just an image that was part of the implant, and that he (Ken) was a "fragment" of that millions-and-millions ago OT being.
He has stated that the best way to gain control of a situation is to claim you made it happen in the first place -- that you were responsible for it, and the other beings around you would then let you "take it over" and have control over it.
The Pilot (of OT 3 time) saw what was happening on Earth (Teegeeack, which I think was pronounced tee-GEEK·K) and wanted to stop it. So he came and said "I'm mocking it up (I created it)". He then got into a mental tug-of-war with the implanters, and held on as best he could, but flinched, and got sucked into the implant with the rest of the people on Earth then.
He failed to put a stop to it. But he did cause an "interruption" in the process, that allows solo auditors to run the incident up to that point and then jump out. Without this, it would have been much harder to run.
I'm sticking my neck out here, but I'm gonna say that I find the FTL thing the least implausible aspect of the Xenu story.
I know that per Einstein nothing can exceed the speed of light. That's our understanding of the way the universe works, currently.
But there have been many "can'ts" in the past which have turned out to be doable. For thousands of years man dreamed of flying, but no one ever did it, until the Wright Bros. just 120 years ago. And the British Astronomer Royal declared as late as 1956 that space travel would never happen and called it "utter bilge."
Views on the practicality of space flight[edit]
Woolley is known for his initial disbelief in the practicalities of space flight, a notion he shared with Sir Harold Spencer Jones, his predecessor as Astronomer Royal. In a 1936 book review of P.E. Cleator's Rockets Through Space,[10] Woolley wrote:
On appointment as Astronomer Royal, he reiterated his long-held view that "space travel is utter bilge". Speaking to Time in 1956, Woolley noted
Woolley's protestations came just one year prior to the launch of Sputnik 1, five years before the start of the Apollo Program, and thirteen years before the first manned landing on the Moon.
I could cite other instances of things which were once thought impossible or impractical which have since come to be. But man seems to eventually achieve whatever he imagines in the way of technology.
So I think we'll eventually solve the FTL thing. I don't know when. It might be 50 years from now or 5,000; I don't know, but I think we'll do it.
And I think if there are, or have been other highly advanced civilizations out there in the stars, they probably came up with a way to do it too.
It's the rest of the Xenu story that strikes me as ridiculously implausible. If the problem was overpopulation, why not just get people to emigrate to other unpopulated or less-populated planets? There are plenty of habitable worlds out there, and you've got FTL drive. Offer the colonists some big incentives that'll make them want to do it!
I think Hubbard shot himself in the foot with this ridiculous, too-complicated story. I think he could've sold OT III much better if he'd said, "You've got these other thetans in your space, that's the problem. You've got to audit them and get rid of them." People would have found that much easier to accept and it wouldn't seem anywhere near as ridiculous. He didn't have to say where the extra thetans came from, and nobody would've asked.
If you think the OT 3 story is ridiculous and too complicated, you should read the story of Excalibur (RONS Orgs's OT 8). It goes way beyond what OT3 says, and CBR himself called it "Alice In Wonderland".
LRH said that FTL travel was possible, without explaining how to do it. This is understandable if you consider that it's possible to remember travelling on FTL spaceships without ever knowing how they work. Can you name a vehicle that you've ridden on (or even driven) without knowing every detail of how it works?
LRH also said that thetans are degraded statics, and that a static was what you were "before you mocked yourself up". I don't totally understand that, and I wouldn't be surprised if he said something contradicting that at some point.
It is this degradation (and the "anchors" to the physical universe that I mentioned earlier) that lets a thetan take on some physical universe characteristics -- like weight (very low) and sensitivity to (way extreme) cold. Not to mention (way extreme) hot -- like a thermonuclear blast.
It's true that SQK didn't exist when LRH wrote the OT 3 narrative. It's also true that the FTL transportation in that narrative violates the established laws of physics. But SQK violates the established laws of physics -- including the sacred Laws Of Thermodynamics -- big time. What can I say? You either believe the Laws Of Thermodynamics can't be violated or you believe they can. It was once believed that a train couldn't travel faster than 28 MPH because all the air would be sucked out, killing the passengers. That belief was disproved and had to be discarded. Is it so hard to believe we'll someday figure out a way to travel faster than light?
I knew Ken Ogger (The Pilot) personally. In his book, Super Scio he said the Pilot of the OT 3 incident was an actual person and not just an image that was part of the implant, and that he (Ken) was a "fragment" of that millions-and-millions ago OT being.
He has stated that the best way to gain control of a situation is to claim you made it happen in the first place -- that you were responsible for it, and the other beings around you would then let you "take it over" and have control over it.
The Pilot (of OT 3 time) saw what was happening on Earth (Teegeeack, which I think was pronounced tee-GEEK·K) and wanted to stop it. So he came and said "I'm mocking it up (I created it)". He then got into a mental tug-of-war with the implanters, and held on as best he could, but flinched, and got sucked into the implant with the rest of the people on Earth then.
He failed to put a stop to it. But he did cause an "interruption" in the process, that allows solo auditors to run the incident up to that point and then jump out. Without this, it would have been much harder to run.
A thetan isn't a material object. How can you make something non-material cold?
Cremating that many dead bodies would be a huge project in itself. Why do the double work of cremating the bodies separately and then transporting the thetans to earth for the rest? It would be much more efficient to transport the bodies and the thetans together and let the H-bombs and volcanoes do the cremating. (That would also dispose of the problem of "How do you make something non-material cold?" since now it's bodies being frozen not thetans.)
(N.B: I don't believe any of this actually happened.)
Totally valid questions. As noted, presumably the captured beings were thetans, not physical bodies. So, how does a massless, spaceless entity wind up in some container filled with anti-freeze? Who knows? Hubbard says a thetan's "location" is determined by postulate. So, maybe they somehow "convinced" the thetan?
But, this raises another question...
If the goal was to solve the overpopulation problem by rounding up the riff-raff, "killing their bodies", capturing/containing the thetan...then presumably "get rid of them - forever".
So why go through all the trouble of loading up DC-8, travel hundreds of light years, place the thetan containers around volcanoes, detonate H bombs, use an electronic "ribbon" to capture the the traumatised thetans (you know the thetans you already captured), then run a giant implant operation. Phew!
Wouldn't it have been easier to load up the thetan popsicles on a space barge and send it into the local star? Or just send it off into deep space?
Gosh. How much basic Scientology theory have you guys forgotten? Hubbard said that a static ( thetan) considers himself to be located in the universe. Thus he considers himself to be effect. He considered he could be frozen and, lo and behold, he was. This is how NOTS works. You get the BT to change his consideration of what and who he is by asking the BT What are you? and Who are you? whereupon he cogs, and exteriorizes and moves on to a new life. Same basics. OT III, Nots and solo Nots are based on axiom 49. Mimsey
Axiom 3
Space, energy, objects, form and time are the result of considerations made and/or agreed upon or not by the Static, and are perceived solely because the Static considers that it can perceive them.
Axiom 18
The Static, in practicing Not-isness, brings about the persistence of unwanted existences, and so brings about unreality, which includes forgetfulness, unconsciousness and other undesirable states.
Axiom 29
In order to cause an As-isness to persist, one must assign other authorship to the creation than his own. Otherwise, his view of it would cause its vanishment.
Any space, energy, form, object, individual or physical universe condition can exist only when an alteration has occurred of the original As-isness so as to prevent a casual view from vanishing it. In other words, anything which is persisting must contain a “lie” so that the original consideration is not completely duplicated.
Axiom 44
Theta (the Static) has no location in Matter, Energy, Space or Time. It is capable of consideration.
Axiom 45
Theta can consider itself to be placed, at which moment it becomes placed, and to that degree a problem.
Axiom 46
Theta can become a problem by its considerations but then becomes Mest.
A problem is to some degree Mest. Mest is a problem.
Axiom 49
To solve any problem it is only necessary to become theta the solver rather than theta the problem.
Humbly tendered as a gift to Man
by L. Ron Hubbard
Gosh. How much basic Scientology theory have you guys forgotten? Hubbard said that a static ( thetan) considers himself to be located in the universe. Thus he considers himself to be effect. He considered he could be frozen and, lo and behold, he was. This is how NOTS works. You get the BT to change his consideration of what and who he is by asking the BT What are you? and Who are you? whereupon he cogs, and exteriorizes and moves on to a new life. Same basics. OT III, Nots and solo Nots are based on axiom 49. Mimsey
Axiom 3
Space, energy, objects, form and time are the result of considerations made and/or agreed upon or not by the Static, and are perceived solely because the Static considers that it can perceive them.
Axiom 18
The Static, in practicing Not-isness, brings about the persistence of unwanted existences, and so brings about unreality, which includes forgetfulness, unconsciousness and other undesirable states.
Axiom 29
In order to cause an As-isness to persist, one must assign other authorship to the creation than his own. Otherwise, his view of it would cause its vanishment.
Any space, energy, form, object, individual or physical universe condition can exist only when an alteration has occurred of the original As-isness so as to prevent a casual view from vanishing it. In other words, anything which is persisting must contain a “lie” so that the original consideration is not completely duplicated.
Axiom 44
Theta (the Static) has no location in Matter, Energy, Space or Time. It is capable of consideration.
Axiom 45
Theta can consider itself to be placed, at which moment it becomes placed, and to that degree a problem.
Axiom 46
Theta can become a problem by its considerations but then becomes Mest.
A problem is to some degree Mest. Mest is a problem.
Axiom 49
To solve any problem it is only necessary to become theta the solver rather than theta the problem.
Humbly tendered as a gift to Man
by L. Ron Hubbard
Hey Mims, if it was only thetans that were transported to Earth and not bodies, why the H-bombs and volcanoes? Doesn't the use of such heavy weapons show an intent to kill bodies? Surely Xenu knew he wasn't going to kill thetans.
Now you may say that the thetan considers that he can be killed, but does he really? My experience is that most people, even if not deeply religious, believe they will survive death and find it very hard to imagine not existing anymore.
Hey Mims, if it was only thetans that were transported to Earth and not bodies, why the H-bombs and volcanoes? Doesn't the use of such heavy weapons show an intent to kill bodies? Surely Xenu knew he wasn't going to kill thetans.
Now you may say that the thetan considers that he can be killed, but does he really? My experience is that most people, even if not deeply religious, believe they will survive death and find it very hard to imagine not existing anymore.
They had budget problems. Thawing out blocks of glycol was out FP. Actually, the whole point of the H bomb was to flash thaw them AND give them a nasty engram the implant would be laid on. They had metal strips to catch them with if recall serves.
Incident II is described in greater detail. Here's the 'sequence':
H-BOMB DROPPED ON VOLCNO
EXPLOSION
TERRIFIC WINDS
THETAN CARRIED OVER PEAK
ELECTRONIC RIBBON CAME UP
HE STUCK TO IT
IT WAS THEN PULLED DOWN AND HE WAS (AS PART OF A GROUP)
IMPLANTED WITH R6
PICTURE OF PILOT SAYING HE IS MOCKING IT UP
Concerning the original collection of the people.......
Wasn't there some mention of asking the citizens to report in to some Tax Office....? This would mean they were originally captured in bodies....
IF then shot and de-thetaned........what about the piles of bodies at that point. Wouldn't the population notice that people were missing.....at some point.... Say 10% or 20% of the population just went missing.... Wouldn't that cause some problems in this operation?
Or did that come from some other Hubbard writing....such as Revolt in the Stars, Mission Earth or Battle Field Earth?
Also....
About the Pilot. If the Pilot mentioned and not explained......is actually "The Pilot" of the airplane / DC3 Space plane.....then there must have been hundreds or thousands of "Pilots" One for each plane...? One for each volcano?
And how did "the pilot" just stand by and survive the atomic explosions.....?
Or was just part of the Electronic implant.....and not really a person.... Part of some recording...
Concerning the original collection of the people.......
Wasn't there some mention of asking the citizens to report in to some Tax Office....? This would mean they were originally captured in bodies....
IF then shot and de-thetaned........what about the piles of bodies at that point. Wouldn't the population notice that people were missing.....at some point.... Say 10% or 20% of the population just went missing.... Wouldn't that cause some problems in this operation?
Or did that come from some other Hubbard writing....such as Revolt in the Stars, Mission Earth or Battle Field Earth?
Also....
About the Pilot. If the Pilot mentioned and not explained......is actually "The Pilot" of the airplane / DC3 Space plane.....then there must have been hundreds or thousands of "Pilots" One for each plane...? One for each volcano?
And how did "the pilot" just stand by and survive the atomic explosions.....?
Or was just part of the Electronic implant.....and not really a person.... Part of some recording...
Excellent points. Let's try to answer some of them. . .
Wasn't there some mention of asking the citizens to report in to some Tax Office....?
ANSWER: Yes, 75M years ago people were ordered to report for a tax audit before being implanted. Since then, beings have become more street smart and cannot be fooled by such an obvious ploy. In modern day the "audit" scam has been replaced by much more refined offers such as inviting people to a "Very special VIP briefing on our newest auditing level!"
This would mean they were originally captured in bodies....
ANSWER: Yes, even at that early point on the wholetrack, beings were required to use bodies in order to hold wallets and sign charge cards, in case a donation opportunity unexpectedly arose.
IF then shot and de-thetaned........what about the piles of bodies at that point. Wouldn't the population notice that people were missing.....at some point.... Say 10% or 20% of the population just went missing.... Wouldn't that cause some problems in this operation?
ANSWER: In fact all the hundreds of billions of bodies was not a problem, because XENU also owned a cremation side business.
About the Pilot. If the Pilot mentioned and not explained......is actually "The Pilot" of the airplane / DC3 Space plane.....then there must have been hundreds or thousands of "Pilots" One for each plane...? One for each volcano?
ANSWER: So far nobody has specifically answered who the pilot was and wtf he was doing there. I have this sinking feeling that we will keep asking this question for another decade and then suddenly one day everyone will realize that nobody knows. At that moment everyone will look at one another, shrug and exclaim: "Jeez, I thought YOU new!"
And how did "the pilot" just stand by and survive the atomic explosions.....?
ANSWER: Very likely in the same way that (hundreds of millions of years ago) Ron and his other fellow race car drivers survived a race track "booby trapped with exploding atomic bombs" during competitions. Because beings at that time were so powerful and could not even be killed if hit directly with a nuclear bomb, mankind's technology was forced to advance and this resulted in tech breakthroughs such as pulling the air cover off a planet.
Or was (the pilot) just part of the Electronic implant.....and not really a person.... Part of some recording...
ANSWER: Apparently, nobody knows the answer to that. In all likelihood this is what forced Ron to kill his body and move to Target II, in order to research who or what the "pilot" was. Once he figures that out, he will assuredly return to this planet and brief us.
