I did very little formal training - through HSDC and Class 2, but I have RDD'd through all the materials through Grad V and have audited staff about 5,000 hours, read all the basic books several times and hundreds of lectures.
A Deeper and More Adventurous Study of Scientology
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Thank you for your communication. The environment of any organization based delivery has always been stressful. Very few pcs were really allowed to "have" their wins; it was a rush to the reg to get "ruined at a higher level of awareness" and then pushed for more hours. When the auditing services were finally done, if you were at all in the money, there'd be an IAS reg or FSM at your door quite often to brief you on the perilous state of Scn at the moment, and that you'd be a villain if you didn't go deep into debt to help them through it. From the late seventies on, training took a seat at the very back of the bus, behind getting to the top of the processing chart and IAS/Cornerstone/etc donations. The 3D culture of Scientology was based on lies, punishment-drive, and intimidation.
On the other hand, there were fewer, but still, many who received auditing in field groups and missions who did quite well with the subject, when they were, geographically, far away from the maddening SO installations.
One might say that auditing was, in many ways, "for the pc", but there were many ways that it was not as well. Much to say about this that I'd rather not write about.
On the whole, though, I am trying to make it known that I'd like to talk with individuals about this on a one on one basis. And I don't know if I want to write about it much more. I can't seem to write in threads without the majority of the comments of a thread being at least mildly derisive or bored to death of the subject. I've seen this in facebook as well, where people who I knew to be high-toned in verbal communications were depressing to read in threads. I think that the forum and FB thread writing has to be very carefully written and carefully read as well to get anywhere close to an actual study and I don't know if very many are good at either skill. I don't think I am. But with verbal communication, you can listen and sense disagreement or misunderstanding and clarify and refine and discern in real-time. The comparative ease of getting understood and understanding is amazing.
Please DM me if you think there might be any benefit in having an actual, real, ears-and-vocal-apparatus conversation. I'd love to talk with you.
Personally, I have had great wins with havingness processes and think that Hubbard's definitions of the word are extremely helpful in actually understand what it is. Hubbard's definitions are "utterly useless"? If your definition of the subject makes Hubbard's that insignificant, I'm very curious to know what it is.
Paul Adams
(Dulloldfart on ESMB)
I don't pretend to know the exact mechanics of this phenomenon/condition called havingness by Hubbard.
I described above a vivid example of its use in auditing. I started the session feeling great. I "erased a bunch of mental mass/energy" (whatever the mechanics of that actually is) for maybe an hour and felt very, very weak, wiped out, i.e., depleted of energy (whatever the mechanics of that actually is). I intuitively did the Rub part of Rub & Yawn (which I hadn't yet formulated) for 30+ minutes, which seemed to repair the energy depletion and allowed the auditing (i.e. further loss of mental energy/mass) to continue.
From this -- and much other subsequent -- real-world experience, I could say:
1. Good release-type auditing depletes one's energy levels (within limits)
2. Intense physical activity as described above but not limited to auditing or that which can be done without moving from a chair or bed boosts one's energy levels (within limits)
3. Havingness is simply that which is being depleted or boosted, i.e. one's energy levels.
"One's energy levels" isn't a precision scientific term, but I think everyone reading this is familiar with sometimes having felt weak and lethargic and at other times having felt bouncy, vivacious, full of life or at least good enough.
Now, let's look at Hubbard's words, taken from the Tech Dictionary, and see how they compare with my straightforward definition above. We are talking about the same phenomenon, after all. Remember I used the word useless before, not false.
HAVINGNESS, 1. that which permits the experience of mass and pressure.
2. the feeling that one owns or possesses.
3. can be simply defined as ARC with the environment.
4. that activity which is run when needed and when it will not violently deflect the pc's attention.
5. the result of creation.
6. the ability to duplicate that which one perceives, or create a duplication of what one perceives, or to be willing to create a duplication of it. But it's duplication.
7. ability to communicate with an isness. The ability to conceive an is-ness and communicate with it.
8. havingness is the concept of being able to reach or not being prevented from reaching.
9. the need to *have* terminals and things to play for and on.
1, 2, 3: Not really false, but so what?
4. How about mid-session ruds, or even the next procedure on an acceptable C/S? Wouldn't that fit too?
5. This is too general to mean anything
6. Again, this is philosophical waffle, that has no use
7, 8, 9: Again, not really false, but so what?
I see from an online Level 0 pack the "final definition" is Havingness is the concept of being able to reach. No Havingness is the concept of not being able to reach. I would class that as a so-what? definition.
You (Dan) will be familiar with the 36 New Presessions HCOB, which lists among other things 35 [sic] havingness processes. The one that worked best for me in CofS auditing was the first one listed, thankfully, namely Look around here and find something you could have. Note that is a THINK process, although it does direct some attention outside of one's mind. The best havingness processes involve direct contact with the physical universe, in a session as described above or in life pretty much any at-least-somewhat vigorous physical activity not done to the point of fatigue. That list of 35 "havingness" processes does not include a single one directed towards actually TOUCHING anything, not even the simple "Stamp your feet on the floor," a pretty good havingness process, by the way.
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Physical activity is not the only way of boosting havingness. Receiving a piece of good news can do it, as can other things. But that's enough for now.
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