The Three Basic Scientology Beliefs - Belief #1

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Anybody wanna see mental?

Anybody wanna read "HEAVEN"?


HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
HCO BULLETIN OF MAY 11, AD13
​


Central Orgs,
Franchise


HEAVEN​
Well, I have been to Heaven.

And I've found that Scientologists have been to Heaven.

And that everybody has evidently been to Heaven.

The Goals Problem Mass implants, which are the apparent basic source of aberration and human travail, which begin with the goal To Forget, were cynically done "in Heaven".

For a long time, people have been cross with me for my lack of co-operation in believing in a Christian Heaven, God and Christ. I have never said I didn't disbelieve in a Big Thetan but there was certainly something very corny about Heaven et al. Now I have to apologize. There was a Heaven. Not too unlike, in cruel betrayal, the heaven of the Assassins in the 12th Century who, like everyone else, dramatized the whole track implants - if a bit more so.

Yes, I've been to Heaven. And so have you. And you have the pattern of its implants in the HCO Bulletin Line Plots. It was complete with gates, angels and plaster saints - and electronic implantation equipment. So there was a Heaven after all - which is why you are on this planet and were condemned never to be free again - until Scientology.

Before you went to Heaven you were not really very bad or very good, but you didn't think you had lived only once and you had a good memory and knew who you were and enjoyed life. Afterwards ---

The symbol of the crucified Christ is very apt indeed. It's the symbol of a thetan betrayed.


DATA
​
Additional work and possible corrections need to be done but this is the gist of the matter:

The implants are electronic in nature and follow the pattern of the G.P.M.

The implant station existed on the order of magnitude of 43,000,000,000,000 years ago. (The dates may be part of the implants but do not appear so at this stage. However, a possibility of correction of dates is reserved).

Some have been through it once, some more than once.

The first time I arrived and the moment of the implant To Forget was dated at 43,891,832,611,177 years, 344 days, 10 hours, 20 minutes and 40 seconds from 10:02½ PM Daylight Greenwich Time May 9, 1963. The second series was dated to the moment of the implant To Forget as 42,681,459,477,315 years, 132 days, 18 hours, 20 minutes and 15 seconds from 11:02½ PM Daylight Greenwich Time May 9, 1963.

There are no earlier such implants. There are no later such implants.

I evidentally have a goal of my own at 305 Trillion (U.S.) years and an actual GPM, all of which pulled into this 43 Trillion year implant.

ADDITIONAL E-METER DATA
​
Five goals in all may be common to both sequences. The first 3 of the 5 are the same. There are no implants as to time according to the meter. There are numbers in any implants, but dates rocket read. Implanting was done on a non-visible thetan, but arrival was in a ship in a doll body accoding to the meter. Star of Bethlehem, Pearly Gates, The Way out of the Universe, all of which RR on the meter, give a clue to recruitment actions.

There was no purpose in giving a particular thetan a particular goal. Planning had no individualization.

A preclear's overts should be scouted as to why these implants keyed in, Fac 1, hypnotism, etc. But doubtful if any preclear did this type of implanting.

The mood is set that thetans are evil, treacherous and bad but this is all part of the implant, not factual.

The earliest point of the series is not known at this writing but possibly contains a recruitment through advertising. The departure point from the series is not fully known yet but probably just abandonment.

The implants were not done in a box or in some trick manner of projection. The scenery is actually there, common Mest Universe, space and matter and in the Mest Universe.

The first (43 Trillion) series consists of 29 implanted goals.

The second (42 Trillion) series consists of 21 implanted goals.

The first three goals in both series are the same, To Forget, To Remember and To Go Away. The last goal and one other in both series are the same. The remaining goals are not the same for the two implants.

PERSONALLY PERCEIVED DATA
​
The pattern of RIs is different for the two series, consisting in the second series of added RIs below the To Have a Goal-ivity and with a different dwindling of adjectives and adverbs, but are otherwise similar.

Both series have the Gates of Heaven visible. The last implant of both consists of "entering" Heaven. The last goal of both is To Be In Heaven.

The gates of the first series are well done, well built. An avenue of statues of saints leads up to them. The gate pillars are surmounted by marble angels. The entering grounds are very well kept, laid out like Bush Gardens in Pasadena, so often seen in the movies. Aside from the implant boxes which lie across from each other on the walk there are other noises and sounds as though the saints are defending and berating. These are unimportant to the incident.

The second series, probably in the same place, shows what a trillion years of overt acts does (or is an additional trickery to collapse one's time). The place is shabby. The vegatation is gone. The pillars are scruffy. The saints have vanished. So have the Angels. A sign on one (the left as you "enter") says "This is Heaven". The right has a sign "Hell" with an arrow and inside the grounds one can see the excavations like archaeological diggings with raw terraces, that lead to "Hell". Plain wire fencing encloses the place. There is a sentry box beside and outside the right pillar. The road "leading up" to the gates is deeply eroded. An effigy of Joseph, complete with desert clothing, is seen approaching the gates (but not moving) leading a donkey which "carries" the original Madonna and child from "Bethlehem". The implanting boxes lie on either side of this "entering" path at path level.

These are the actual ends of the two series. One backs out the gates, of course, from top oppterm down, as this is the end. The last two RIs after this last goal say "it is the beginning", "Not the end".

The place, by implant and inference, was supposed to be in the sky like a floating island. Actually it was simply a high place in the mountains of a planet and the gates pathway falls away into a gorge, very eroded and bare by the time of the second implant, but heavily forested and rolling at the time of the first.

The beginnings have not at this writing been so well explored by myself. I have not viewed the second beginning (which says it is the end). However I do know that the second series was done in long square tunnels with the implant boxes, not unlike small P.A. speakers with fretwork fronts, on either side.

The first series actually begins with arrival in a "town" (as everything is backwards to upset the time sense). This "town" consisted of a trolley bus, some building fronts, sidewalks, train tracks, a boarding house, a bistro in a basement where there is a "bulletin board" well lighted, and a BANK BUILDING.

The bank is the key point of interest. It is interesting that we use the work "bank" (taken actually from computerology) to indicate the reactive mind.

This bank building was the on-the-corner old-fashioned granite-like construction, two or three stories high, with the door in the rounded front - even a revolving type door. Inside to the left of the entrance door is a rounded counter. Directly across the room are THE stairs.

The top oppterm and terminal of To Forget are at the top of these stairs. The implant then proceeds on down the stairs, step by step, terminals on one side (the left if one were coming up the stairs) the oppterms on the other. The first series (43 Trillion) has all its implant impulses at step level. In the second series the boxes are ear high to a man. By the time the gates are arrived at in the first series, the terminals are on the left as you approach the gates, the oppterms on the right, having been reversed at some point.

The first (43 Trillion) series had very fine marble stairs. The same stairs can be seen in any big well kept railway station. They were complete with a white ball held in a wrought iron stand.

The thetan was taken along apparently on a pole trap to which he was stuck. It does not proceed step by step throughout the whole of the implant series, but after the first flight of stairs, goes a ways, stops while several pairs of RIs fire then goes to a new location.

The place seemed to have people in it. But they are all effigies. These seem radioactive. Contact with them hurts. No living beings. But effigies that look like humans are performing sudden, repetitive actions with long halts between. In the "basement" such dummies are seen operating machinery.

The boarding house at the actual beginning has a dummy guest and a landlady in kimono and wrappers, reading a newspaper.

There are no devils or satans that I saw.

There is a passenger getting on the trolley bus, a "workman" halfway down the first stairs of To Forget "eating lunch" and in To Be in Heaven a gardener or electrician adjusting an implant box behind a hedge and periodically leaping up and screaming.

The place, so long as the implants remain only partially discharged, seems to swim in while and black electronic masses, but these dissipate as the implants are run out by pattern.

One actually "enters" the "town" as the first action. The implants, however, were rigged to make the gates seem the entrance to the incident. One backs through from the town, into the bank, down the steps and eventually out the Pearly Gates, down the hillside and is there let off and abandoned. One might have had a body or its remains at the town but has none when abandoned.

"TO BE IN HEAVEN" is the last goal implanted in both series. The goal may be slightly differently worded in the second series.

This is not a body building implant, though running it gives somatics to chest.

This is not a GE implant. It is the person's own. Running it, particularly badly, brings it down on the body. There are body somatics on it, however, particularly eyes, face, chest, bones.

It apparently only can be run by 3M listing and Rocket Reads. One must have the goal to get the RIs.

CONCLUSIONS
​
The place is so full of lies by implant that the preclear becomes quite confused and this review of the actual data is necessary to a successful navigation. However, it is very easy to read more treachery into it than there is in it - which is enough.

However, as the place existed so long it was in a varying state of repair and some change. (This data on time is subject to review). But in 1.2 Trillion years only some of the implant pattern and mock up had shifted. However, there may have been other stations. Only time and research will really tell that.

One must date the preclear's first (earliest) goal to forget, find out how many times the preclear went through it, or some such implant station, date the other times and be careful to run only the first of the first series. As this is basic, as in Prepchecking, Sec Checking and old engram running, it tends to ease up the remainder of the implants. But running the implants later than basic is very much harder on the pc even though it can be done. Wherever one misses an RI in an early implant, that repeated RI when found in a later one tends to be very much more heavily charged.

Re-running any implant that has only been partially run tends to rough up the whole implant and make it hard to run.

LUCKY
​
I think we are lucky. It could have been much worse. This Heavenly dream of destruction could have been current, not so long ago. It could have happened often, not just once or twice or three times per pc. But apparently it didn't and is unique in itself.

This is the core of the Reactive Mind. It is all the way South. For here, just once on the whole track, somebody discovered the mechanism of purposes and RIs and utilized them to install religious mania and pin thetans down to "one life" and planets.

The thing was done so well that it has hung up ever since. There are other implants, there are other goals and GPMs, but these are minor and easily found and listed once this key implant series is out of the way.

We were in a position of having an infinite number of pieces to the puzzle. Now we have a finite number which even though very tough are still finite in number. Further, every processing step taken, every RI discharged is a positive gain toward a definite finite result in processing.

Further, we have our hands on an apalling piece of technology where the world is concerned. With rapidity and a Mater it can be shown that Heaven is a false dream and that the old religion was based on a very painful lie, a cynical betrayal.

What does this do to any religious nature of Scientology? It strengthens it. New religions always overthrow the false gods of the old, they do something to strengthen man. We can improve man. We can show the old gods false. And we can open up the universe as a happier place in which a spirit may dwell. What more can you expect? This actually places us far beyond any other beings that are about. It puts us, through increased beingness and a restoration of life, in control of much destiny.

We have now only a few unsolved problems about life, huge though they may be, such as the construction of bodies and how does one establish the character of and communicate, if feasible, with beings who are making trees and insects. There are a few things like these. But I imagine when we finally manage to communicate with beetle under rocks and free them, we'll no doubt find the Creator of Heaven who 43 + Trillion years ago designed and built the Pearly Gates and entrapped us all.

Good Lord, I'd hate to be guilty of that overt. But never mind - you aren't either. That guy is GONE (I hope!)

L. RON HUBBARD

(Note: This HCO Bulletin is based on over a thousand hours of research auditing, analyzing the facsimiles of the reactive mind, and with the help of a Mark V Electrometer. It is scientific research and is not in any way based upon the mere opinion of the researcher. This HCO Bulletin is not the result of the belief or beliefs of anyone. Scientology data reflects long, arduous and painstaking research over a period of some thirty years into the nature of Man, the mind, the human spirit and its relationship to the physical universe. The data and phenomena discovered in Scientology is common to all minds and all men and can be demonstrated on anyone. Truth does not require belief to be truth any more than water requires anyone's permission to run down hill. The data is itself and can be duplicated by any honest researcher or practitioner. We in Scientology seek freedom, the betterment of Man, and the happiness of the individual and this comprises our attitude towards the data found. The data, however, is simply itself, and exists whatever the opinion of anyone may be. The contents of this HCO Bulletin discover the apparent underlying impulses of religious zealotism and the source of the religious mania and insanity which terrorized Earth over the ages and has given religion the appearance of insanity. As the paper is written for my friends it has, of course, a semblane of irreverence).


(Note: All our data on the whole track remains factual and is not taken from any implant. The only data released earlier was the time factors involved in GPMs).



LRH:jw
Copyright © 1963
by L. Ron Hubbard
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

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Anybody wanna see crazy?

Anybody wanna see mental?

Anybody wanna read "HEAVEN"?


HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex
HCO BULLETIN OF MAY 11, AD13
​


Central Orgs,
Franchise



HEAVEN​
Well, I have been to Heaven.

And I've found that Scientologists have been to Heaven.

And that everybody has evidently been to Heaven.

The Goals Problem Mass implants, which are the apparent basic source of aberration and human travail, which begin with the goal To Forget, were cynically done "in Heaven".

For a long time, people have been cross with me for my lack of co-operation in believing in a Christian Heaven, God and Christ. I have never said I didn't disbelieve in a Big Thetan but there was certainly something very corny about Heaven et al. Now I have to apologize. There was a Heaven. Not too unlike, in cruel betrayal, the heaven of the Assassins in the 12th Century who, like everyone else, dramatized the whole track implants - if a bit more so.

Yes, I've been to Heaven. And so have you. And you have the pattern of its implants in the HCO Bulletin Line Plots. It was complete with gates, angels and plaster saints - and electronic implantation equipment. So there was a Heaven after all - which is why you are on this planet and were condemned never to be free again - until Scientology.

Before you went to Heaven you were not really very bad or very good, but you didn't think you had lived only once and you had a good memory and knew who you were and enjoyed life. Afterwards ---

The symbol of the crucified Christ is very apt indeed. It's the symbol of a thetan betrayed.



DATA
​
Additional work and possible corrections need to be done but this is the gist of the matter:

The implants are electronic in nature and follow the pattern of the G.P.M.

The implant station existed on the order of magnitude of 43,000,000,000,000 years ago. (The dates may be part of the implants but do not appear so at this stage. However, a possibility of correction of dates is reserved).

Some have been through it once, some more than once.

The first time I arrived and the moment of the implant To Forget was dated at 43,891,832,611,177 years, 344 days, 10 hours, 20 minutes and 40 seconds from 10:02½ PM Daylight Greenwich Time May 9, 1963. The second series was dated to the moment of the implant To Forget as 42,681,459,477,315 years, 132 days, 18 hours, 20 minutes and 15 seconds from 11:02½ PM Daylight Greenwich Time May 9, 1963.

There are no earlier such implants. There are no later such implants.

I evidentally have a goal of my own at 305 Trillion (U.S.) years and an actual GPM, all of which pulled into this 43 Trillion year implant.


ADDITIONAL E-METER DATA
​
Five goals in all may be common to both sequences. The first 3 of the 5 are the same. There are no implants as to time according to the meter. There are numbers in any implants, but dates rocket read. Implanting was done on a non-visible thetan, but arrival was in a ship in a doll body accoding to the meter. Star of Bethlehem, Pearly Gates, The Way out of the Universe, all of which RR on the meter, give a clue to recruitment actions.

There was no purpose in giving a particular thetan a particular goal. Planning had no individualization.

A preclear's overts should be scouted as to why these implants keyed in, Fac 1, hypnotism, etc. But doubtful if any preclear did this type of implanting.

The mood is set that thetans are evil, treacherous and bad but this is all part of the implant, not factual.

The earliest point of the series is not known at this writing but possibly contains a recruitment through advertising. The departure point from the series is not fully known yet but probably just abandonment.

The implants were not done in a box or in some trick manner of projection. The scenery is actually there, common Mest Universe, space and matter and in the Mest Universe.

The first (43 Trillion) series consists of 29 implanted goals.

The second (42 Trillion) series consists of 21 implanted goals.

The first three goals in both series are the same, To Forget, To Remember and To Go Away. The last goal and one other in both series are the same. The remaining goals are not the same for the two implants.


PERSONALLY PERCEIVED DATA
​
The pattern of RIs is different for the two series, consisting in the second series of added RIs below the To Have a Goal-ivity and with a different dwindling of adjectives and adverbs, but are otherwise similar.

Both series have the Gates of Heaven visible. The last implant of both consists of "entering" Heaven. The last goal of both is To Be In Heaven.

The gates of the first series are well done, well built. An avenue of statues of saints leads up to them. The gate pillars are surmounted by marble angels. The entering grounds are very well kept, laid out like Bush Gardens in Pasadena, so often seen in the movies. Aside from the implant boxes which lie across from each other on the walk there are other noises and sounds as though the saints are defending and berating. These are unimportant to the incident.

The second series, probably in the same place, shows what a trillion years of overt acts does (or is an additional trickery to collapse one's time). The place is shabby. The vegatation is gone. The pillars are scruffy. The saints have vanished. So have the Angels. A sign on one (the left as you "enter") says "This is Heaven". The right has a sign "Hell" with an arrow and inside the grounds one can see the excavations like archaeological diggings with raw terraces, that lead to "Hell". Plain wire fencing encloses the place. There is a sentry box beside and outside the right pillar. The road "leading up" to the gates is deeply eroded. An effigy of Joseph, complete with desert clothing, is seen approaching the gates (but not moving) leading a donkey which "carries" the original Madonna and child from "Bethlehem". The implanting boxes lie on either side of this "entering" path at path level.

These are the actual ends of the two series. One backs out the gates, of course, from top oppterm down, as this is the end. The last two RIs after this last goal say "it is the beginning", "Not the end".

The place, by implant and inference, was supposed to be in the sky like a floating island. Actually it was simply a high place in the mountains of a planet and the gates pathway falls away into a gorge, very eroded and bare by the time of the second implant, but heavily forested and rolling at the time of the first.

The beginnings have not at this writing been so well explored by myself. I have not viewed the second beginning (which says it is the end). However I do know that the second series was done in long square tunnels with the implant boxes, not unlike small P.A. speakers with fretwork fronts, on either side.

The first series actually begins with arrival in a "town" (as everything is backwards to upset the time sense). This "town" consisted of a trolley bus, some building fronts, sidewalks, train tracks, a boarding house, a bistro in a basement where there is a "bulletin board" well lighted, and a BANK BUILDING.

The bank is the key point of interest. It is interesting that we use the work "bank" (taken actually from computerology) to indicate the reactive mind.

This bank building was the on-the-corner old-fashioned granite-like construction, two or three stories high, with the door in the rounded front - even a revolving type door. Inside to the left of the entrance door is a rounded counter. Directly across the room are THE stairs.

The top oppterm and terminal of To Forget are at the top of these stairs. The implant then proceeds on down the stairs, step by step, terminals on one side (the left if one were coming up the stairs) the oppterms on the other. The first series (43 Trillion) has all its implant impulses at step level. In the second series the boxes are ear high to a man. By the time the gates are arrived at in the first series, the terminals are on the left as you approach the gates, the oppterms on the right, having been reversed at some point.

The first (43 Trillion) series had very fine marble stairs. The same stairs can be seen in any big well kept railway station. They were complete with a white ball held in a wrought iron stand.

The thetan was taken along apparently on a pole trap to which he was stuck. It does not proceed step by step throughout the whole of the implant series, but after the first flight of stairs, goes a ways, stops while several pairs of RIs fire then goes to a new location.

The place seemed to have people in it. But they are all effigies. These seem radioactive. Contact with them hurts. No living beings. But effigies that look like humans are performing sudden, repetitive actions with long halts between. In the "basement" such dummies are seen operating machinery.

The boarding house at the actual beginning has a dummy guest and a landlady in kimono and wrappers, reading a newspaper.

There are no devils or satans that I saw.

There is a passenger getting on the trolley bus, a "workman" halfway down the first stairs of To Forget "eating lunch" and in To Be in Heaven a gardener or electrician adjusting an implant box behind a hedge and periodically leaping up and screaming.

The place, so long as the implants remain only partially discharged, seems to swim in while and black electronic masses, but these dissipate as the implants are run out by pattern.

One actually "enters" the "town" as the first action. The implants, however, were rigged to make the gates seem the entrance to the incident. One backs through from the town, into the bank, down the steps and eventually out the Pearly Gates, down the hillside and is there let off and abandoned. One might have had a body or its remains at the town but has none when abandoned.

"TO BE IN HEAVEN" is the last goal implanted in both series. The goal may be slightly differently worded in the second series.

This is not a body building implant, though running it gives somatics to chest.

This is not a GE implant. It is the person's own. Running it, particularly badly, brings it down on the body. There are body somatics on it, however, particularly eyes, face, chest, bones.

It apparently only can be run by 3M listing and Rocket Reads. One must have the goal to get the RIs.


CONCLUSIONS
​
The place is so full of lies by implant that the preclear becomes quite confused and this review of the actual data is necessary to a successful navigation. However, it is very easy to read more treachery into it than there is in it - which is enough.

However, as the place existed so long it was in a varying state of repair and some change. (This data on time is subject to review). But in 1.2 Trillion years only some of the implant pattern and mock up had shifted. However, there may have been other stations. Only time and research will really tell that.

One must date the preclear's first (earliest) goal to forget, find out how many times the preclear went through it, or some such implant station, date the other times and be careful to run only the first of the first series. As this is basic, as in Prepchecking, Sec Checking and old engram running, it tends to ease up the remainder of the implants. But running the implants later than basic is very much harder on the pc even though it can be done. Wherever one misses an RI in an early implant, that repeated RI when found in a later one tends to be very much more heavily charged.

Re-running any implant that has only been partially run tends to rough up the whole implant and make it hard to run.


LUCKY
​
I think we are lucky. It could have been much worse. This Heavenly dream of destruction could have been current, not so long ago. It could have happened often, not just once or twice or three times per pc. But apparently it didn't and is unique in itself.

This is the core of the Reactive Mind. It is all the way South. For here, just once on the whole track, somebody discovered the mechanism of purposes and RIs and utilized them to install religious mania and pin thetans down to "one life" and planets.

The thing was done so well that it has hung up ever since. There are other implants, there are other goals and GPMs, but these are minor and easily found and listed once this key implant series is out of the way.

We were in a position of having an infinite number of pieces to the puzzle. Now we have a finite number which even though very tough are still finite in number. Further, every processing step taken, every RI discharged is a positive gain toward a definite finite result in processing.

Further, we have our hands on an apalling piece of technology where the world is concerned. With rapidity and a Mater it can be shown that Heaven is a false dream and that the old religion was based on a very painful lie, a cynical betrayal.

What does this do to any religious nature of Scientology? It strengthens it. New religions always overthrow the false gods of the old, they do something to strengthen man. We can improve man. We can show the old gods false. And we can open up the universe as a happier place in which a spirit may dwell. What more can you expect? This actually places us far beyond any other beings that are about. It puts us, through increased beingness and a restoration of life, in control of much destiny.

We have now only a few unsolved problems about life, huge though they may be, such as the construction of bodies and how does one establish the character of and communicate, if feasible, with beings who are making trees and insects. There are a few things like these. But I imagine when we finally manage to communicate with beetle under rocks and free them, we'll no doubt find the Creator of Heaven who 43 + Trillion years ago designed and built the Pearly Gates and entrapped us all.

Good Lord, I'd hate to be guilty of that overt. But never mind - you aren't either. That guy is GONE (I hope!)

L. RON HUBBARD

(Note: This HCO Bulletin is based on over a thousand hours of research auditing, analyzing the facsimiles of the reactive mind, and with the help of a Mark V Electrometer. It is scientific research and is not in any way based upon the mere opinion of the researcher. This HCO Bulletin is not the result of the belief or beliefs of anyone. Scientology data reflects long, arduous and painstaking research over a period of some thirty years into the nature of Man, the mind, the human spirit and its relationship to the physical universe. The data and phenomena discovered in Scientology is common to all minds and all men and can be demonstrated on anyone. Truth does not require belief to be truth any more than water requires anyone's permission to run down hill. The data is itself and can be duplicated by any honest researcher or practitioner. We in Scientology seek freedom, the betterment of Man, and the happiness of the individual and this comprises our attitude towards the data found. The data, however, is simply itself, and exists whatever the opinion of anyone may be. The contents of this HCO Bulletin discover the apparent underlying impulses of religious zealotism and the source of the religious mania and insanity which terrorized Earth over the ages and has given religion the appearance of insanity. As the paper is written for my friends it has, of course, a semblane of irreverence).


(Note: All our data on the whole track remains factual and is not taken from any implant. The only data released earlier was the time factors involved in GPMs).


LRH:jw
Copyright © 1963
by L. Ron Hubbard
ALL RIGHTS RESERVED

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That's pretty fucking crazy but poor Bum, I think he was serious with this thread.
 
His early material is recognizable to me as coming from someone who had experienced an ascension.

I thought that (or something very similar) at one time, but I have my doubts now though I don't discount the possibility. What's clear to me is that if he did have one (and it is an "if"), things went very wrong afterwards and he appears to have succumbed to to a lot of the temptations that attend such an occurrence; Ram Dass would say he "went through the door but took his ego with him."
 
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That's a reality that you regard as being true for you.

The reality that many of us here subscribe to, is that there was no ascension to fall from -- that it was all a con from the beginning, and that LRH never achieved any OT abilities, either in himself or by auditing others.

You are free to disagree. And we are free to maintain our opinions.

As above, I don't discount the possibility that an ascension can occur through auditing or another action in Scn.

I had an experience in session (when I was doing my grades) which I can't describe to you because I can't even recall it accurately, but where I was suddenly in a zone where a lot of what Scientologists would call "theta level information" was coming to me, more than I could actually process.

Laugh if you want, but if it wasn't an ascension I don't know what it was; it may have been a minor one as it didn't last very long. I saw bits and pieces of things like individuation, the fall etc. but not the whole picture.
 
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As above, I don't discount the possibility that an ascension can occur through auditing or another action in Scn.

I had an experience in session (when I was doing my grades) which I can't describe to you because I can't even recall it accurately, but where I was suddenly in a zone where a lot of what Scientologists would call "theta level information" was coming to me, more than I could actually process.

Laugh if you want, but if it wasn't an ascension I don't know what it was; it may have been a minor one as it didn't last very long. I saw bits and pieces of things like individuation, the fall etc. but not the whole picture.
You made a connection.
 
That's pretty fucking crazy but poor Bum, I think he was serious with this thread.


Has anyone on this thread defined the word "ASCENSION". Is anyone even talking about the same subject? LOL

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Has anyone on this thread defined the word "ASCENSION". Is anyone even talking about the same subject? LOL

Oh this again. Fools rush in ...

There was a time, roughly from my early twenties to about twelve years later, when I would get what I would now call spiritual experiences (I had several when I was twenty-one for some reason), but they seem to have stopped now and have not happened for some time.

I don't want to make the particular experience I'm referring to here sound grander than it was (and I've been fortunate enough to have considerably more enjoyable ones than that one was), and I couldn't really define it either; but if I were to try and describe what happened it was as though I was suddenly picking up a radio station that I wasn't aware of before and which was broadcasting information about the spiritual world. Just as you turn the dial on a radio in Britain and (if it's a good radio with a decent aerial) you can hear, say, a French music station instead of an English one and hear someone speaking in a different language.

People who think the whole thing's a load of nonsense are most likely going to go on thinking the whole thing's a load of nonsense whatever one says, to be honest, so the conversation's a waste of time. Some people have had sex, some haven't. *Some people have had spiritual experiences, some haven't. Enough already.

* I saw somewhere in a book of Ram Dass's that, according to a survey which was done on the subject, about two-fifths of the population reported having had at least one, so they're by no means rare.
 
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His early material is recognizable to me as coming from someone who had experienced an ascension. It is pure 'recognition' on my part. As for Falling, I explained that already: a move into negativity, which it appears to me you also recognized, as a move from self help guru to cult leader. That move certainly indicates to me his decayed condition. KSW is a horror.
I am a bit puzzled that you don't seem to understand scientologese; this is an ex-scn group, you're here, but you don't seem to sling the lingo. ;-)

Generally, the 1950s is regarded as a saner time in Scientology, particularly the time in Phoenix Arizona during 1953.

Yet even during that time there were signs of things to come: Link to The 1950s, the sane years?

Hubbard's book editor and the editor of Ability magazine, John Sanborn, described Hubbard as having achieved "peak brilliance" in 1954.

Hubbard's moods, whims, and states of being inevitably became part of Scientology, for better or for worse.

There does seem to have been a consistency though. He did seem to have an overall plan, perhaps from as early as 1938.

Link to The Scientological Onion with a link to Hubbard's secret "blueprint"?

A link to quotes from Hubbard that may show a pattern.

Hope this helps.
 
Oh this again. Fools rush in ...

There was a time, roughly from my early twenties to about twelve years later, when I would get what I would now call spiritual experiences (I had several when I was twenty-one for some reason), but they seem to have stopped now and have not happened for some time.

I don't want to make the particular experience I'm referring to here sound grander than it was (and I've been fortunate enough to have considerably more enjoyable ones than that one was), and I couldn't really define it either; but if I were to try and describe what happened it was as though I was suddenly picking up a radio station that I wasn't aware of before and which was broadcasting information about the spiritual world. Just as you turn the dial on a radio in Britain and (if it's a good radio with a decent aerial) you can hear, say, a French music station instead of an English one and hear someone speaking in a different language.

People who think the whole thing's a load of nonsense are most likely going to go on thinking the whole thing's a load of nonsense whatever one says, to be honest, so the conversation's a waste of time. Some people have had sex, some haven't. *Some people have had spiritual experiences, some haven't. Enough already.

* I saw somewhere in a book of Ram Dass's that, according to a survey which was done on the subject, about two-fifths of the population reported having had at least one, so they're by no means rare.


It sounds like you are defining "ascension" very generically as 'some sort of transcendental experience where one perceives input from origin points distant, either on this planet or otherwise.'

Perhaps I am just not familiar with the use of that term as you or the original poster used it. But is everyone just making up a meaning for that word or is there a fixed meaning being used?

I personally don't have any opinion one way or the other on subjective experience that other have. And likewise, I don't have any conclusion about whether their INTERPRETATION of the experience is reality-based or just imaginary.

I am however always intrigued by any paranormal experiences that might be able to demonstrate something beyond the normal range of human perception. That would be cool if it happened.

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Belief One

This can be best stated as:

The future of every man, woman and child, for all eternity depends solely on what we accomplish realizing the goals of Scientology. If we fail we all will suffer and die for endless eternities. We will die horrible deaths over and over forever.

The condition of people, governments, medicine, science, education and even the entire universe, taken as a whole, is horrible, decayed, dying and failing. This will only get worse if it continues unaddressed and unhandled.

Therefore, the actions of Scientology are more important than anything anywhere at anytime past, present or future. There is nothing that even takes a close second-place.

As a spiritual being, I am eternal, and must come back into new bodies over and over. I will continue in this cycle of rebirth and death, with pain and with suffering, for all eternity UNLESS I succeed with Scientology.


This is the "gloom & doom" basis of Scientology beliefs. The view is basically that everything is horrible, and will remain horrible, UNLESS Scientology wholly succeeds in its mission, because ONLY Scientology has the information and methods that can stop the gloom and doom from happening. It is that simple. It is typical SALVATION MENTALITY WHERE, we, the Church of Scientology, have accurately described the state of salvation and only we, the Church of Scientology, offer the correct path to reach that state of salvation. Notice the emphasis on “we”? There is often this slant to get you to view yourself as part of something bigger. That is what the member mentally attaches onto. He or she attaches onto this ideal or valuable goal that reeks of constant threats of doom and gloom.

Corollary Belief 1A:

Therefore, we are justified in doing anything to anyone if it safeguards our continued existence and contributes to our success. All considerations are minor compared to this. Nothing else matters, and no other person or group matters compared to this.

Corollary Belief 1B:

Concerns such as friendship, family, personal goals and even health are far secondary to the success of the Scientology movement.


These ideas, which come to exist as an intertwining set of firmly held beliefs in the minds of Scientologists, are based on the numerous writings and lectures by L. Ron Hubbard. Each new member contacts these ideas very early on during their Scientology experience, and each member constantly encounters similar ideas as they continue through their studies and involvement with Scientology. It would be a fair statement to say that these ideas are constantly driven into their minds on a non-stop basis. For staff members, there is also endless additional repeated indoctrination into these ideas through regularly scheduled staff meetings, staff briefings, Church events, study orders, Orders of the Day, and course training. The way Scientology training is arranged, with strict training methods, and which allows for no questioning, disagreement or discussion, well ensures the total acceptance of ALL ideas. Partial acceptance of ideas is not allowed; only 100% complete absolute agreement is tolerated and acceptable. A "pick and choose" mentality is unallowable in the Church of Scientology. As you will see this is based on another, later discussed basic belief, that Scientology methods are 100% workable and effective, but only if applied exactly and completely, without alteration, as L. Ron Hubbard directed them to be applied. Therefore, all avenues for "picking and choosing" are blocked. There is only ONE correct way. There is no possible validity given to anything other than what Hubbard declared as true, and what he instructs members to do. That notion is also part of the official Church of Scientology mindset. This mindset is carefully and systematically nurtured in each adherent.

For example, in Scientology there is a procedure called "Chinese School" where the members all line up and chant words and ideas in unison, words and ideas that some Scientology leader wants to ram into their little heads.

"3. Chinese School (staff or div staff all together in front of a big org board chanting together the hats, duties and products of the org as visible on the org board). (HCO PL 9 March 1972 Issue III DEV-T AND UNHATTEDNESS)

This method is commonly used with any idea, including the basic beliefs discussed in this section. A group of Church members line up, and chant each key point together. They do this day after day until they can each recite the idea, phrase or sentence without error. This is one of many different aspects of the strict Scientology indoctrination method. Though, the primary methods of indoctrination occur with the way Scientology training occurs.

Simply and clearly stated, in Scientology training or study the LRH materials are always beyond question. They are viewed as "wholly perfect". They are viewed as "beyond any possibility of error". If you have a question then you are instructed to find your misunderstood word(s), or get more mass on the subject by demonstrating principles and ideas. If you disagree with any topic by Hubbard, then you must first complete the above previous two steps, and if still disagreeing, then get disagreements addressed and handled with auditing, or corrective actions in the Qualifications Division, and if still disagreeing, then get sent to ethics to “clean up your out-ethics” by writing up overts and withholds (or get the overts and withholds pulled in sec-check auditing). Disagreement is not allowed, accepted or tolerated in any form. That aspect of Scientology is very important, and one must understand this about them to truly comprehend what “makes them tick”.

The theory involved here, the accepted belief, is that the "data is perfect", it always works if properly understood and applied, and it can only be a case of “problems with the student” that prevent understanding, agreement, great results and wide-eyed enthusiasm for what was studied. Every student clears up the meaning of words, demonstrates principles, receives coaching on study materials, receives checkouts, and applies other study techniques such as metered word clearing, clay demonstrations, and drawing diagrams. It is strictly forbidden to ask another student, or the course supervisor about what anything means in Scientology. It is forbidden for a Course Supervisor to answer any questions from students with anything except, "what do your course materials state?" or "what is your misunderstood word"? The ONLY correct action in Scientology is to get the student to study the materials until the student understands, agrees with and greatly enjoys the materials. This acts to heavily reinforce and condition the student with certain very specific ideas. This point cannot be over-emphasized enough. Disagreement, of any type, is not tolerated. Only wide-eyed enthusiastic agreement is desirable and acceptable by the group. In Scientology, this is called VGI’s (an acronym for “Very Good Indicators” – happy, smiling, uptone, enthusiastic, wanting to talk Scientology up to others, etc.). Scientology indoctrination was carefully designed by Hubbard to ensure that.

In Scientology, the various ideas and concepts are repeated over and over and over until the member has them firmly planted in their minds; until he or she "understands" them, agrees with them, and especially, asserts them as undeniable and indisputable facts. This is a basic Scientology study method, enforcing the use of repetition:

"NUMBER OF TIMES OVER THE MATERIAL EQUALS CERTAINTY" (HCOPL 8 May 1969 Issue I IMPORTANT STUDY DATA)

So, of course, Scientology "learning" methods involve making members go over some subject or idea as many times as necessary until the person is "certain" about the subject or idea. "Certainty" is a vital concept in Scientology. “Certainty” generally means having total agreement with the ideas of Scientology.
Good post. THAT ^^^ is hypnotism. There is no way one could "understand" the tech. It has too many laws of commotion where one policy has an equal and opposite policy to justify why it does not work.
This is mind control - what you explained very well.
Repeating the same thing over and over = implanted ideas buried in the subconscious mind, which does have command value.
That is how mind control works.
This is what advertisers, politicians and religions use to sell products, ideas, beliefs and support.

If a nation were to utilize various forms of mind control to control what people hear and see in the mainstream media coupled with the social media big boyz... one could influence people to rig an election, take over the country and then start a war.

:cool:
 
What is the likelyhood, really, that someone posts some tidbits from a fundamentally sound religious / spiritual philosophy on a message board essentially condemning (mostly) a fundamentally unsound religious / spiritual philosophy?

I'm not saying that anything posted on this thread is reliable, other than the concept P&B has put forward, and was the operating principle of activities I was involved in and witnessed for my slightly less than thirty years in. That is entirely true.
 
Generally, the 1950s is regarded as a saner time in Scientology, particularly the time in Phoenix Arizona during 1953.

Yet even during that time there were signs of things to come: Link to The 1950s, the sane years?

Hubbard's book editor and the editor of Ability magazine, John Sanborn, described Hubbard as having achieved "peak brilliance" in 1954.

Hubbard's moods, whims, and states of being inevitably became part of Scientology, for better or for worse.

There does seem to have been a consistency though. He did seem to have an overall plan, perhaps from as early as 1938.

Link to The Scientological Onion with a link to Hubbard's secret "blueprint"?

A link to quotes from Hubbard that may show a pattern.

Hope this helps.
One thing about the 1950's and early 1960's, is that the materials of Dianetics and Scientology were publicly available. Anybody who wanted to do auditing could buy a book, or apprentice under an experienced auditor.

It was the emergence of the "confidential" materials of the Clearing Course and the OT levels that enabled Hubbard to exercise control, by threatening to deny access to the confidential materials. Without the ability to deny access to "advanced auditing materials", the whole "disconnection" game falls apart.
 
Generally, the 1950s is regarded as a saner time in Scientology, particularly the time in Phoenix Arizona during 1953.

Yet even during that time there were signs of things to come: Link to The 1950s, the sane years?

Hubbard's book editor and the editor of Ability magazine, John Sanborn, described Hubbard as having achieved "peak brilliance" in 1954.

Hubbard's moods, whims, and states of being inevitably became part of Scientology, for better or for worse.

There does seem to have been a consistency though. He did seem to have an overall plan, perhaps from as early as 1938.

Link to The Scientological Onion with a link to Hubbard's secret "blueprint"?

A link to quotes from Hubbard that may show a pattern.

Hope this helps.
I wasn't around then (I was ony born in the late 1950s) but as far as Scn was concerned I see it as a time of experimentation, when people were going to Ron Hubbard's lectures, trying things out to see what worked and what didn't and then reporting back on what they'd experienced and discovered.

Someone would take a process like "Mock up a ..". and have a go at, say, mocking up a problem as big as the bank and then see what happened. (Yes I did try it myself, not much happened).

It was also though a time of great Cold War paranoia when people were inclined to take Ron Hubbard's statement "the race is between Scientology and the atom bomb" seriously.

It sounds like you are defining "ascension" very generically as 'some sort of transcendental experience where one perceives input from origin points distant, either on this planet or otherwise."

Perhaps I am just not familiar with the use of that term as you or the original poster used it. But is everyone just making up a meaning for that word or is there a fixed meaning being used?

I personally don't have any opinion one way or the other on subjective experience that other have. And likewise, I don't have any conclusion about whether their INTERPRETATION of the experience is reality-based or just imaginary.

I am however always intrigued by any paranormal experiences that might be able to demonstrate something beyond the normal range of human perception. That would be cool if it happened.

I suppose so, yes. I don't particularly like the word (it's a bit too "New Agey" for me), but I fell in with it because Ed8 used it earlier on. Sorry also if I misinterpreted what you were saying as a knock against spiritual experiences generally.
 
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What a long strange trip it's been . . .

Forrest Ackerman, Hubbard's literary agent:

"He said that he had died on the operating table, and that he rose in spirit form, and he looked at the body that he had previously inhabited and he shrugged the shoulders he didn't have any more and he thought 'well then, where do we go from here?' Off in the distance he saw a great ornate gate, and he wafted over to it, and the gate, as they do in supernatural films, just opened without any human assistance.​
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"He floated through and on the other side he saw an intellectual smorgasbord of everything that had ever puzzled the mind of man - you know, how did it all begin, where do we go from here, are there past lives, and like a sponge he was just absorbing all this esoteric information.​
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"And all of a sudden there was a kind of swishing in the air and he heard a voice, 'no, not yet, he's not ready' and like a long umbilical cord he felt himself being pulled back, back, back and he lay down in his body and he opened his eyes, and he said to the nurse, 'I was dead, wasn't I?'.​
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"Then he bounded off the operating table - I don't know how you die, then you bound off an operating table. He got two reams of paper, and a gallon of scalding black coffee, and at the end of two days he had a manuscript called 'Excalibur' or 'The Dark Sword'. And he told me that whoever read it either went insane or committed suicide. And he said that the last time he had shown it to a publisher in New York, he walked into the office to find out what the reaction was, the publisher called for the reader, the reader came in with the manuscript, threw it on the table and threw himself out of the skyscraper window."​
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Other people who've had visions under gas:

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William James describes a man who got the experience from laughing-gas; whenever he was under its influence, he knew the secret of the universe, but when he came to, he had forgotten it. At last, with immense effort, he wrote down the secret before the vision had faded. When completely recovered, he rushed to see what he had written. It was:​
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“A smell of petroleum prevails throughout.”​
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What seems like sudden insight may be misleading, and must be tested soberly when the divine intoxication has passed.​
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Bertrand Russell​
A History of Western Philosophy​
So placing himself in his armchair, with pen, ink, and paper at hand, he inhaled the vapor of chloroform. As drowsiness stole over him, and just as unconsciousness was impending, those sublime and marvelous thoughts arose, and by a vigorous effort he seized his pen and wrote, he knew not what, for before he had finished he fell back unconscious. When he awoke, with trembling anxiety he turned to the sheet of paper on which he could read in scrawling characters, but quite legible, the secret of the universe, written in the words:​
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“A strong smell of turpentine pervades the whole.”​
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Dr. Oliver Wendell Holmes​
Sir Humphry Davy has related an experience, which I had forgotten when I recorded my own. After inhaling nitrous-oxide gas, he says:​
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“With the most intense belief and prophetic manner, I exclaimed to Dr. Kingslake: ‘Nothing exists but thoughts. The universe is composed of impressions, ideas, pleasures, and pains.'”​
Published in 1800​
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Post-Affirmations ('47) . . .
Post-bigamous marriage to Sara, child Alexis, and a loud contentious divorce . . .
Post-bankruptcy of the first Dianetic Foundation . . .
Ron gets bailed out by Purcell and flees to Wichita . . .

From Barbara Kaye, his then lover -- re: Wichita mid-1951 -- states he was pretty bad off:

I was shocked by his appearance in Wichita. He had visibly deteriorated, both physically and emotionally. He was extremely unkempt, he lived like a street person. He was extremely depressed, talked in a monotone, always on the verge of tears.​
. . .​
When he went off with Alexis he came by the mansion at Hoover. I was there working and he was in a depression. I could see the way he walked - his head down, dragging his feet.​

However, by some miracle of research, or vivid imagination, he'd figured out the secrets of the universe
during that next year and . . .

By December 1952, he had traveled to or seen many other universes (PDC Lecture 6):

"I know of three frames positively outside this universe. There’s a universe outside this universe and there’s a universe outside that and its set of universes, and there’s a universe outside that universe. And I know the one beyond that. And it’s not necess... they’re not necessarily getting thinner or more unsubstantial but they don’t run according to the same laws. E equals MC squared won’t work in ‘em. That is not a native characteristic of energy. It just happens to be."​

I guess you'll have to judge for yourself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
From Barbara Kaye, his then lover -- re: Wichita mid-1951 -- states he was pretty bad off:

I was shocked by his appearance in Wichita. He had visibly deteriorated, both physically and emotionally. He was extremely unkempt, he lived like a street person. He was extremely depressed, talked in a monotone, always on the verge of tears.​
. . .​
When he went off with Alexis he came by the mansion at Hoover. I was there working and he was in a depression. I could see the way he walked - his head down, dragging his feet.​

However, by some miracle of research, or vivid imagination, he'd figured out the secrets of the universe
during that next year and . . .

By December 1952, he had traveled to or seen many other universes (PDC Lecture 6):

"I know of three frames positively outside this universe. There’s a universe outside this universe and there’s a universe outside that and its set of universes, and there’s a universe outside that universe. And I know the one beyond that. And it’s not necess... they’re not necessarily getting thinner or more unsubstantial but they don’t run according to the same laws. E equals MC squared won’t work in ‘em. That is not a native characteristic of energy. It just happens to be."​

I guess you'll have to judge for yourself. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

What happened between mid-1951 and 1952 that perked up Hubbard?

Prior to that, Hubbard was having issues with impotence (as mentioned in his Affirmations), and this was depressing him




Then in mid-1951, a young 20 year old college student came to study at the Dianetics foundation. Hubbard very soon started an affair with her (although being 20 years older), and they apparently had quite a bit of good sexual activity, because she got pregnant a few months later, and they married. Her name? Mary Sue.

 
Generally, the 1950s is regarded as a saner time in Scientology, particularly the time in Phoenix Arizona during 1953.

Yet even during that time there were signs of things to come: Link to The 1950s, the sane years?

Hubbard's book editor and the editor of Ability magazine, John Sanborn, described Hubbard as having achieved "peak brilliance" in 1954.

Hubbard's moods, whims, and states of being inevitably became part of Scientology, for better or for worse.

There does seem to have been a consistency though. He did seem to have an overall plan, perhaps from as early as 1938.

Link to The Scientological Onion with a link to Hubbard's secret "blueprint"?

A link to quotes from Hubbard that may show a pattern.

Hope this helps.
actually, Hubbard explained his plan in the original dianetics book, this quote is from chapter X.


"Plan A included the perfection of the science, its testing on patients of all kinds and, finally, the dissemination of dianetics as pertaining to therapy. That plan ends with the release of this book.

Plan B includes a further research into life force, an attempt at resolution of some of the ills not yet embraced such as cancer and diabetes, and the perfection of techniques discovered and their dissemination. That will end Plan B.

Plan C includes an effort to discover a higher echelon of universal origin and destination, if the problem is one of origin and destination, and the factors and forces involved to the end of securing a better understanding and useful application of the knowledge so gained, if gained, and if so gained, its dissemination.

A portion of Plan B is the organization of a foundation so that the research can be more swiftly accomplished.

The history of dianetics has just begun. What other things begin with the origin of a science of mind only tomorrow can tell. '

So basically we was all Guinea pigs, Hubbard claimed to have cleared people with dianetics (plan A), and then claimed to have OT'd (plan B and C) people with scientology. Of course clear means without aberrations, and OT means living without a body, accession.

Turns out to be not true.

Gotta luv the rhetoric of it all. Much ado about nothing, or no results. LOL
 
Generally, the 1950s is regarded as a saner time in Scientology, particularly the time in Phoenix Arizona during 1953.

Yet even during that time there were signs of things to come: Link to The 1950s, the sane years?

Hubbard's book editor and the editor of Ability magazine, John Sanborn, described Hubbard as having achieved "peak brilliance" in 1954.

Hubbard's moods, whims, and states of being inevitably became part of Scientology, for better or for worse.

There does seem to have been a consistency though. He did seem to have an overall plan, perhaps from as early as 1938.

Link to The Scientological Onion with a link to Hubbard's secret "blueprint"?

A link to quotes from Hubbard that may show a pattern.

Hope this helps.

Thank you.
 
It isn't that I don't understand Scientologese, it's that I think Scientologese locks a person into Scientology-cult-think -- that is: It stops thinking. When one attempts to translate Scientology terms into real world terms, it can help clarify thoughts -- and uncover bad, illogical thinking.

I concur on this to this extent: if only scientology is used as a framework for understanding, then that narrow set of definitions does produce bad thinking. However, a broad-based understanding can be achieved by using multiple frameworks. My writing is filled with terms from Christianity, Huna, Hindu yogas, Buddhism, scientology, Hermetic magic, Yoruban Ifa, and many other isms and anities. By not locking into any one nomenclature, I avoid being owned by one fixed set of ideas. Heh, you should see the glossaries in my last two books; they are almost a course in spiritual thought all by themselves.
 
actually, Hubbard explained his plan in the original dianetics book, this quote is from chapter X.


"Plan A included the perfection of the science, its testing on patients of all kinds and, finally, the dissemination of dianetics as pertaining to therapy. That plan ends with the release of this book.

Plan B includes a further research into life force, an attempt at resolution of some of the ills not yet embraced such as cancer and diabetes, and the perfection of techniques discovered and their dissemination. That will end Plan B.

Plan C includes an effort to discover a higher echelon of universal origin and destination, if the problem is one of origin and destination, and the factors and forces involved to the end of securing a better understanding and useful application of the knowledge so gained, if gained, and if so gained, its dissemination.

A portion of Plan B is the organization of a foundation so that the research can be more swiftly accomplished.

The history of dianetics has just begun. What other things begin with the origin of a science of mind only tomorrow can tell. '

So basically we was all Guinea pigs, Hubbard claimed to have cleared people with dianetics (plan A), and then claimed to have OT'd (plan B and C) people with scientology. Of course clear means without aberrations, and OT means living without a body, accession.

Turns out to be not true.

Gotta luv the rhetoric of it all. Much ado about nothing, or no results. LOL
I concur on this to this extent: if only scientology is used as a framework for understanding, then that narrow set of definitions does produce bad thinking. However, a broad-based understanding can be achieved by using multiple frameworks. My writing is filled with terms from Christianity, Huna, Hindu yogas, Buddhism, scientology, Hermetic magic, Yoruban Ifa, and many other isms and anities. By not locking into any one nomenclature, I avoid being owned by one fixed set of ideas. Heh, you should see the glossaries in my last two books; they are almost a course in spiritual thought all by themselves.
dude, I'm not quite sure what you are talking about. Hubbard created scientology because he called it a Applied Religious Philosophy, He said it was a science based on scientific principles, namely science and ology, or knowledge = science plus study of.

Scientology is supposed to be different from other religions because it is supposed to be based on science and not belief.

Scientology is the science of certainty, as Hubbard said, turns out not to be true.

Other religions have a belief, they believe that they will have a afterlife. Hubbard claimed by doing his science of auditing, they can recall past lives and return from death with full recall of memory.

There has been nobody who has come back from death using scientology as a religion.

So, it is a complete hoax.

Now, other religions claim you will live again. Is there proof?
 
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