If the Sea Org Motto is We Come Back, how come nobody has come back,

Zertel

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expediter error on the map. was after an overnighter. everyone is birthing in North Korea.
I think you meant "berthing" in North Korea. (I'm not sure if that's a King's English word.) Maybe they're also birthing - don't know. Ron should have provided return coordinates for everybody before he departed.
 
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Dark

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I think you meant "berthing" in North Korea. (I'm not sure if that's a King's English word.) Maybe they're also birthing - don't know. Ron should have provided return coordinates for everybody before he departed.
well, now that you mention it, i guess both. my definition of birthing - getting born. hopefully getting 8 fingers, 2 thumbs, and 10 toes. while hooves are great for kicking big cats, it is difficult to do more than binary math, but then shucks, all computers are binary, so maybe hooves are better than decimals. now spiders ... they will inherit this Earth.
 

Harden Long

OSA no esta hermOSA
"In Southern culture, the phrase "back-door man" refers to a man having an affair with a married woman, using the back door as an exit before the husband comes home. " - Wiki

Yeah right, we believe ya! :D
Yeah, butt rear entry of a "back-door man" means entirely something else in some fields of endeavor in alternative camps. Not in mine mind you, just sayin. Butt hindsight is 20/20.
Too puny!!!
 
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Harden Long

OSA no esta hermOSA
"Back Door Man"

That's where Morrison really showed signs of being way out there. Krieger & Densmore carried the song while Manzarek just diddled around. Morrison was on his own planet somewhere in a lost galaxy and you could see clues of what would be their end coming. But hindsight is 20/20.
 

Helena Handbasket

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The whole idea behind "we come back", is that 75 million years ago, at Incident 2 time, there was a group of Loyal Officers fighting Xenu and the Renegades (which would be a great name for a band, incidentally). The modern Sea Ogres are supposed to be the Loyal Officers, returned to take up the battle once again.

Whether this is literally true or not, I don't want to get into that, nor do I want to comment on whether their return is actually accomplishing anything.

Helena
 

Zertel

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well, now that you mention it, i guess both. my definition of birthing - getting born. hopefully getting 8 fingers, 2 thumbs, and 10 toes. while hooves are great for kicking big cats, it is difficult to do more than binary math, but then shucks, all computers are binary, so maybe hooves are better than decimals. now spiders ... they will inherit this Earth.
Hah! My MU! I just learned a new word.

birthing - noun
an act of instance of giving birth, especially by natural childbirth

Eta: also, birthing - adjective
of or having to do with birth (a birthing room)

Arachnids are cool. Maybe Ron said something about them in History Of Man. I'll go check. ;)
 
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stratty

Inveterate gnashnab & snoutband
The whole idea behind "we come back", is that 75 million years ago, at Incident 2 time, there was a group of Loyal Officers fighting Xenu and the Renegades (which would be a great name for a band, incidentally). The modern Sea Ogres are supposed to be the Loyal Officers, returned to take up the battle once again.

Whether this is literally true or not, I don't want to get into that, nor do I want to comment on whether their return is actually accomplishing anything.

Helena
I wouldn't think it was possible for someone as smart as you to have to consider for one moment whether it was literally true or not. Antifreeze lung injections, superluminal space travel in DC 8's or whatever they were, H-bombs in non-existent (at that time) volcanoes. Who but only the most severely deluded could possible believe any of that nonsense?
 
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Zertel

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That's where Morrison really showed signs of being way out there. Krieger & Densmore carried the song while Manzarek just diddled around. Morrison was on his own planet somewhere in a lost galaxy and you could see clues of what would be their end coming. But hindsight is 20/20.
That's true but while you're tripping out you don't necessarily want to "hurry up" things. Jim did make it through the whole song with some improvisation.
 

Harden Long

OSA no esta hermOSA
That's true but while you're tripping out you don't necessarily want to "hurry up" things. Jim did make it through the whole song with some improvisation.
I never really tripped so I wouldn't spot the phenomenon. Closest was a 1/4 tab of orange sunshine my senior year and I saw Hubbard waving to me to come join the Sea Org while in my room reading promo. Good thing because it may have kept me out of the Sea Org if I'd driven all the way to the coast.
 

Riddick

I clap to no man
The whole idea behind "we come back", is that 75 million years ago, at Incident 2 time, there was a group of Loyal Officers fighting Xenu and the Renegades (which would be a great name for a band, incidentally). The modern Sea Ogres are supposed to be the Loyal Officers, returned to take up the battle once again.

Whether this is literally true or not, I don't want to get into that, nor do I want to comment on whether their return is actually accomplishing anything.

Helena
nope, that's not it. The whole idea of We Come Back is that anybody going thru scientology auditing procedures will remember past lives and on their death will be able to get a new body to come back with full memory and resume their existence with full memory of having died and returning in a new body, with full total recall.

So, my question, has anybody done this? Do we have proof? Has anybody returned from doing scientology auditing all the the way up to OT8. have they returned from death?

There are lots of OT8's that have died? Have they returned and how do we know, with certainty?
 
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Zertel

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nope, that's not it. The whole idea of We Come Back is that anybody going thru scientology auditing procedures will remember past lives and on their death will be able to get a new body to come back with full memory and resume their existence with full memory of having died and returning in a new body, with full total recall.

So, my question, has anybody done this? Do we have proof? Has anybody returned from doing scientology auditing all the the way up to OT8. have they returned from death?

There are lots of OT8's that have died? Have they returned and how do we know, with certainty?
The only "instruction" I vaguely recall is that immediately after dropping the meat sack you should find a safe place to hide. I guess that was so the implanters don't get a hold of you and make you forget. I guess the OT8's didn't get the message.

You're taking this much too seriously imo. 😇

Every religIon in the world says it has a path to immortality. Take yer pick.
 
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guanoloco

As-Wased
Which Returned Ron is he? I think there are two of them, one in Washington state and another somewhere in the midwest U.S.

There's a bunch. That one is a Johnny-come-lately.


Who was he really, this Andreas Buttler?

Andreas Buttler, a German actor and musician, was the author of the book Spiritologie who believed he was the re-incarnation of L. Ron Hubbard and subsequently became the founder of a movement called Spiritologie with the aim to restore and simplify Scientology.


 
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