Scientology Technology includes *PUFFING"
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Type4_PTS
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Scientology claims to have the most effective PR tech on the planet, but they don't seem to be doing so well. 
Americans' views on 35 religious groups, organizations, and belief systems
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A recent YouGov poll explores Americans' attitudes toward 35 religious groups, organizations, and belief systems. Belief systems that encompass the largest shares of Americans — including Christianity, Catholicism, and Protestantism — are among the ones the most Americans view favorably. Viewed least favorably are Satanism and Scientology.
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Americans' views on 35 religious groups, organizations, and belief systems
Americans' views on 35 religious groups, organizations, and belief systems
Belief systems that encompass the largest shares of Americans — including Christianity, Catholicism, and Protestantism — are among the ones the most Americans view favorably. Viewed least favorably are Satanism and Scientology.
today.yougov.com
Excerpt:
A recent YouGov poll explores Americans' attitudes toward 35 religious groups, organizations, and belief systems. Belief systems that encompass the largest shares of Americans — including Christianity, Catholicism, and Protestantism — are among the ones the most Americans view favorably. Viewed least favorably are Satanism and Scientology.
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TheSneakster
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False statistics. The only reason D.M. hasn't been ousted by the OT Committee.
Type4_PTS
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I doubt that all the individuals on the OT Committee believe the statistics are valid, but they have no legal authority to oust Miscavige.
If they did their own investigation, proving beyond the shadow of a doubt that all the stats are falsified, and sent a report to every single CoS Scientologist on the planet, especially the whales, maybe this would create enough pressure on DM so he'd leave voluntarily or be forced out somehow.
TheSneakster
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I doubt that all the individuals on the OT Committee believe the statistics are valid, but they have no legal authority to oust Miscavige.
If the OT whales ever walked, he's effectively ousted.
Remember, Davie McSavage actually has no lawful authority to be the dick-tator of official corporate Scientology. He never had such authority from Ron Hubbard the Founder, either. These facts have to constitute his greatest nightmare: that the paying public membership should ever discover them.
D.M. is a grifter running a confidence scam for decades (a long con) that actually began even before Hubbard was sequestered in January, 1980.
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Type4_PTS
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I would hope that that IS true. But I wonder how much it costs to operate the CoS over the course of a year? And how much revenue is being generated annually from any investments they have? If every single whale stopped donating today, I presume they've invested some of the billions of dollars in cash they have, plus they're making some money from the orgs. Even if they were short a couple of hundred million dollars, Miscavige may be able just to use money in the IAS accounts to cover that.
I bet his greatest nightmare would be Tom Cruise publicly leaving CoS and becoming a whistleblower.
TheSneakster
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Tom Cruise is just another mark D.M. the Grifter fashioned into a shill.
By himself, Cruise can swiftly be disavowed and smeered as a "suppressive Person secretly working for the dreaded Psychs and the One World Government from the beginning" using a bunch of auditing folder data as evidence. D.M. destroyed David Mayo and many others who were well known to be personal friends of Ron Hubbard and were far, far more important to Scientology than Tom Cruise ever was.
T.C. stopped shilling for D.M. to the broad public and to Hollywood industry professionals over a decade ago, so he's not bringing in new marks for the grifter to fleece. Given how we know Davie McSavage has operated in the past, I'd say it is a safe bet that D.M. has - for many years - viewed T.C. as a threat to his dictatorship and had a contingency plan in place throwing T.C. under the bus ( like everybody else ) when it becomes expedient.
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Type4_PTS
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David Mayo and personal friends of Hubbard were more important within the CoS. They could be destroyed by DM with no notice whatsoever by the MSM or even the independent media. If Cruise filed a lawsuit against the CoS and/or Miscavige, most media outlets would cover it. It would be a huge story.
I'm not expecting that to happen. The chances of Hubbard returning to Earth and taking back control of the CoS may be just slightly less likely than Cruise publicly leaving the CoS. So this is just all speculative. But if it did happen, it would be a legitimate threat to Miscavige IMO. T.C. isn't like everybody else.
He has the financial wherewithal to engage in a legal war and the media contacts to engage in a public relations war.
HelluvaHoax!
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1. "...no legal authority to oust Miscavige": TRUE
2. "...maybe this would create enough pressure on DM so he'd leave voluntarily or be forced out": NOT POSSIBLE (because of #3, below.)
3. "...all the individuals on the OT Committee....": The OT Committee has never done anything to expose or fix the criminally fraudulent hoax called Scientology. The reason they incapable of that is BECAUSE they are OTs. OTs don't "operate". They are operated upon. OTs are not "total cause" over anything because by its very nature OTs are the total effect of cult propaganda, cult intimidation, cult overwhelm, cult intimidation, cult threats and cult terrorism if they ever step out of line or even have critical thoughts. In short, OTs cannot ever "false data strip" their treacherously complete and overwhelming indoctrination- - - because Scientology is ITSELF false data. The one thing OTs can do, however, is "flow power to power" ( i.e. to bring money and new recruits to the cult by knowingly or unknowingly lying to others about their miraculous "powers" - - and in most cases lying to themselves about that as well).
4. If an "OT" ever confronted and admitted the truth about Scientology's "magical powers for money" rackets, they would lose two things. The letters "O" and "T". The cult would take those two away and replace them with an alternate two things, the letters "S" and "P". lol
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I doubt that all the individuals on the OT Committee believe the statistics are valid, but they have no legal authority to oust Miscavige.
If they did their own investigation, proving beyond the shadow of a doubt that all the stats are falsified, and sent a report to every single CoS Scientologist on the planet, especially the whales, maybe this would create enough pressure on DM so he'd leave voluntarily or be forced out somehow.
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1. "...no legal authority to oust Miscavige": TRUE
2. "...maybe this would create enough pressure on DM so he'd leave voluntarily or be forced out": NOT POSSIBLE (because of #3, below.)
3. "...all the individuals on the OT Committee....": The OT Committee has never done anything to expose or fix the criminally fraudulent hoax called Scientology. The reason they incapable of that is BECAUSE they are OTs. OTs don't "operate". They are operated upon. OTs are not "total cause" over anything because by its very nature OTs are the total effect of cult propaganda, cult intimidation, cult overwhelm, cult intimidation, cult threats and cult terrorism if they ever step out of line or even have critical thoughts. In short, OTs cannot ever "false data strip" their treacherously complete and overwhelming indoctrination- - - because Scientology is ITSELF false data. The one thing OTs can do, however, is "flow power to power" ( i.e. to bring money and new recruits to the cult by knowingly or unknowingly lying to others about their miraculous "powers" - - and in most cases lying to themselves about that as well).
4. If an "OT" ever confronted and admitted the truth about Scientology's "magical powers for money" rackets, they would lose two things. The letters "O" and "T". The cult would take those two away and replace them with an alternate two things, the letters "S" and "P". lol
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Type4_PTS
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Many OTs left the Co$ because they realized the auditing they received wasn't delivering to them the promised abilities, and the organization delivering them wasn't "the most ethical group on the planet" as we were all assured of early on.
I would bet good money that some of them attempted to correct the situation internally before they ran for the exit doors. We just haven't heard those stories. Many people who have been scammed out of hundreds of thousands of dollars don't want to publicly admit that. Some people would judge them and believe them to be stupid.
Not everyone was afraid to confront Miscavige, though. Leah Remini was one of them and did tell her story, but that is rare.
Karen#1
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MORE STATISTICS that are NOT PUFFING
20,000 FAMILIES disconnected from their own children or parents.
50,000 former Scientologists declared Suppressive person.
500,000 Scientologists over 50 years suffered money extortion and outrageous sales extortion cycles.
100 people who have over 1 million in donations were subsequently declared SP (But the cult kept the money$$$)
Thousands of women had coerced or enforced abortions as ordered by management
100,000 people went through sadistic useless "RPF" program to no result and many subsequently blew (escaped)
Countless people beaten by Miscavige, punched, kicked, body slammed.
1 million hours of Sec checks ..police polygraph interrogatories for intelligence purposes not for case gain of the victim.
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20,000 FAMILIES disconnected from their own children or parents.
50,000 former Scientologists declared Suppressive person.
500,000 Scientologists over 50 years suffered money extortion and outrageous sales extortion cycles.
100 people who have over 1 million in donations were subsequently declared SP (But the cult kept the money$$$)
Thousands of women had coerced or enforced abortions as ordered by management
100,000 people went through sadistic useless "RPF" program to no result and many subsequently blew (escaped)
Countless people beaten by Miscavige, punched, kicked, body slammed.
1 million hours of Sec checks ..police polygraph interrogatories for intelligence purposes not for case gain of the victim.
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Cat's Squirrel
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Yes, but as you know Scientology intentionally makes it very difficult for that to happen. Anyone who thought about doing that would have to organise it in the greatest secrecy, and probably on his or her own too because the moment such a plan is discovered a trap springs shut.
Knowledge Reports, Ethics Conditions, meetings with the MAA if they still have those - all that and you'd no longer be a Scientologist in good standing and would risk the loss of the rest of your Bridge to Eternity (which is the worst thing you can threaten a committed CofS Scientologist with).
Nevertheless, there are examples in history of secret movements that have flourished in similarly oppressive environments and it all could just happen.
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Type4_PTS
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Scientology makes it very difficult for Scientologists to correct the corruption within the CoS, but I'm confident that some have attempted.
Debbie Cook did turn into a whistleblower and successfully communicated with thousands of Scientologists.
Type4_PTS
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For those who’ve joined in recent years, I’d tend to agree with you. But for those who’ve been in for decades, I suspect a large percentage are trapped. They don’t want to express their true opinions about the CoS for fear of losing family members, friends, employers, clients, or other important contacts.
Lee #28
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Perhaps TC is still trying to recruit....but he just can't seal the deals in this present time.....and more exposed situatio.. For instance his brief swing and a miss at Shakira.....and just last week with that movie star lady....
Just a thought....
Enthetan
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I’m one of them. I just decided that I wasn’t receiving benefits that compensated for the hassles. The crush regging for the new books was my breaking point.Many OTs left the Co$ because they realized the auditing they received wasn't delivering to them the promised abilities, and the organization delivering them wasn't "the most ethical group on the planet" as we were all assured of early on.
Enthetan
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The OT Committees never had any actual organizational power.
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