The Danny Masterson Trial thread

Danny is in for a massive reality adjustment....in jail.

Breakfast at 4::30 AM. No more fancy StarBucks Coffees that he is photographed with each morning.....

Lunch....might be a peanut butter sandwich...?

Dinner at 6PM.. Hamburger, if he is lucky...

No more Steaks....or other fancy foods...

Rigorous schedules.... Lights out time..... Get up time....

No cocktails or booze..... No Jacuzzi.....

No female affections....

No Cell Phone or surfing the net....
 
Lee #28 said:
Another YouTube discussion going on here....interesting.

Lawyer going over the situation....

Edited: This Lawyer has extensive knowledge of this Legal battle.... good information. I don't think they have any Cult affiliation....?

Mainly a legal discussion. Good stuff.

Edited: At about 20.00....a good discussion about the moment of the Verdict being read....and the Masterson Crew (10 ) being in "Shock"

I agree....they must have all thought he'd walk out today....and when he didn't ..... Why would they have thought that?

The Judge thought he was a Flight Risk.....so handcuffed and taken away. Apparently Danny's Lawyer asked for additional bond and Electronic Monitoring ....but was denied.


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The flight risk aspect the judge alluded to coupled with the ease of removal of the monitor is why she denied it. Personally, I find it hard to believe he didn't jump bail and leave the country before the first trial. Perhaps he had a m/u on the overt motivator sequence? Of course, there's the question, where could he go to? Most countries honor extradition of non-citizens.

There was another option which he could have used - plea bargain. Why he didn't and instead rolled the dice on a trial is a damn good question.

Mimsey

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Can you cut off an electronic monitoring bracelet?

Last Friday, Puerto Rican nationalist leader Filiberto Ojeda Rios died after a shootout with FBI agents. In 1990, while awaiting trial for stealing...
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Danny Masterson convicted of 2 counts of rape, ‘That ‘70s Show’ actor faces 30 years to life

"Masterson was not charged with any counts of drugging, and there is no toxicology evidence to back up the assertion. His attorney asked for a mistrial over the issue’s inclusion. The motion was denied, but the issue is likely to be a major factor in any potential appeal. "

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‘That ‘70s Show’ actor Danny Masterson convicted of 2 counts of rape

Jurors have found “That ’70s Show” star Danny Masterson guilty of two out of three counts of rape, and he could get 30 years to life in prison. The jury reached the verdict Wednesday in a Los Angeles courtroom, where Masterson was led out in handcuffs. It was the second trial for the 47-year-old...
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Also - Zac Morgan said most likely Danny will have a different lawyer(s?) on appeal and will testify Cohen screwed up the defense.

Mimsey
 
Time for me to pop off about a couple things.....

And as usual.....I have not followed this trial or situation very much.....so might be uninformed...?

How is it possible that Danny Masterson put up NO DEFENSE at either of his Trials.... ( yet he and his entire posse were sure that he would be found not guilty....?)

My understanding is that at this last Trial, at least, Phillip Cohen, Danny's Defense Lawyer did not call one witness for the Defense.... Not a single one.

My question is.....who's legal strategy was that?

Time wise....all these Rapes occurred during the time that "That 70s Show" was actively being shot / filmed and shown on TV.

So, not a single cast member was reliable enough to take the stand and say.....Danny was an OK guy????? Not one Stage Hand....Lighting guy....Makeup Artist...???

I saw a video of Aston Kucher being asked a question about the rape accusations.....and he side stepped the entire thing....very smoothly.

I can see that no Hollywood Celebrity would want to step into this mine field....due to their PR and Career. But not one?

So....here is my problem.

How ,on one hand, could he feel sure of a Not-Guilty finding....
But on the other hand could not find one person, legally safe enough to put on the Stand in his Defense....?

Seems kinda screwy to me...

For sure COS ( Cult of Scientology) had a hand in crafting his Defense.....??

It seems incredibly stupid to have a Defense of only attacking...nit picking....and bullying Prosecution Witnesses when that is what was done to them by Danny in the first place. Just more of the same treatment... (to put it mildly) But this time in front of a Jury..... How stupid!

Anyway...even though just the 2 Guilty Verdicts...and 1 Hung Jury.... I believe there are at least 7 girls....makes some claims...??
 
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Lee #28 said:
And more info. Interesting to learn when in the "rape timeline"....Masterson met Bijou.....

www.dailymail.co.uk

Danny Masterson's wife Bijou Phillips inconsolable over guilty verdict

A source close to the couple opened up about Bijou's state of mind following yesterday's jury verdict that found the actor guilty on two counts of rape
www.dailymail.co.uk www.dailymail.co.uk
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That article has a poignant quote about Bijou's utter devastation and grief upon Masterson's guilty verdict that would forever dramatically affect hers and her child's life:

"(Bijou) was convinced he was telling the truth"​

There are other parts of her life that will inevitably have similar results because:

Bijou is also convinced that L. Ron Hubbard was telling the truth.​
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And Bijou is also convinced that David Miscavige was telling the truth.​

Bijou thinks that her 'ruin' is that her serial rapist husband is in prison until the end of his life. That's not her ruin. Her ruin is that she can't tell the difference between sadistic pathological liars and sane people.

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That article has a poignant quote about Bijou's utter devastation and grief upon Masterson's guilty verdict that would forever dramatically affect hers and her child's life:

"(Bijou) was convinced he was telling the truth"​

There are other parts of her life that will inevitably have similar results because:

Bijou is also convinced that L. Ron Hubbard was telling the truth.​
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And Bijou is also convinced that David Miscavige was telling the truth.​

Bijou thinks that her 'ruin' is that her serial rapist husband is in prison until the end of his life. That's not her ruin. Her ruin is that she can't tell the difference between sadistic pathological liars and sane people.

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I don't know much about this.....and don't know what you know about this....so putting this here.

Danny Masterson got Bijou Phillips into Scientology. (2004) I would imagine he gained some major Cult Status for bringing a Celebrity into the Cult......

What I was thinking about was if Danny was on some sort of "Ethics Program".....to get married?

Don't want to put in the time to figure out the rape timeline....and his meeting Bijou. Anyway....they didn't get married until 2011.

And.....the big takeaway for me at this point is this Trial and result NUKED Scientology....and for sure nuked Danny....

And this case will drag on and on.....in the News....
 
Lee #28 said:
I don't know much about this.....and don't know what you know about this....so putting this here.

Danny Masterson got Bijou Phillips into Scientology. (2004) I would imagine he gained some major Cult Status for bringing a Celebrity into the Cult......

What I was thinking about was if Danny was on some sort of "Ethics Program".....to get married?

Don't want to put in the time to figure out the rape timeline....and his meeting Bijou. Anyway....they didn't get married until 2011.

And.....the big takeaway for me at this point is this Trial and result NUKED Scientology....and for sure nuked Danny....

And this case will drag on and on.....in the News....
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The rapes were in the early 2000's - 8 or 10 years earlier. I think it will die down in the media fairly quickly until he's sentenced, and then it will fade away.

I don't think it will have much effect on scio's who will think he pulled it in when they hear of it.

Mimsey
 
Lee #28 said:
What I was thinking about was if Danny was on some sort of "Ethics Program".....to get married?

Don't want to put in the time to figure out the rape timeline....and his meeting Bijou. Anyway....they didn't get married until 2011.
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possible, though what would actually be crucial would be not for him to be married, but in a stable relationship -- and maybe even one that satisfies some of his more perverse needs. it's not uncommon for rapists to stop perpetrating as they get older and settle down, and it's possible that is part of the reason why no more recent accusations have come to light -- all likely having nothing to do with anything scn did, though of course Hubbard was pretty adept at setting things up so people would claim 'wins' for things that would have happened anyways in their life due to other causes.

speaking of dragging on, there will be the civil trial when a lot more that couldn't be revealed in a criminal trial can come out -- unless the CoS comes up with a big settlement, and non disclosure agreements. and then there's the mysterious grand jury that is presumably investigating things like obstruction of justice -- which the upcoming hearing on the improper disclosure of trial evidence to the CoS' attorney will probably add more for them to consider; and if any of that goes to trial then anything the CoS might have gotten gag agreements over will probably come out anyway.
 
Lee #28 said:
Time for me to pop off about a couple things.....

And as usual.....I have not followed this trial or situation very much.....so might be uninformed...?

How is it possible that Danny Masterson put up NO DEFENSE at either of his Trials.... ( yet he and his entire posse were sure that he would be found not guilty....?)

My understanding is that at this last Trial, at least, Phillip Cohen, Danny's Defense Lawyer did not call one witness for the Defense.... Not a single one.

My question is.....who's legal strategy was that?

Time wise....all these Rapes occurred during the time that "That 70s Show" was actively being shot / filmed and shown on TV.

So, not a single cast member was reliable enough to take the stand and say.....Danny was an OK guy????? Not one Stage Hand....Lighting guy....Makeup Artist...???
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In a criminal trial, the defendant is presumed to be "Not Guilty" unless the Prosecution presents sufficient evidence to convince the jurors that he IS guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. The burden of proof is fully on the prosecution. The attorneys for the defense have no need to call any of their own witnesses if they can (via cross-examination) create uncertainty in the minds of the jurors about the guilt of the defendant. That IS what they did during the first trial and it succeeded in keeping Masterson out of prison due to a hung jury on all three counts.

The attorneys for the prosecution did a great job of making adjustments after the first trial, figuring out how to counter the strategy of the defense attorneys and how to relate a more coherent narrative to the jurors so they would more easily understand how everything went down. They put on a very strong case and the Jane Doe's and the other witnesses came across as credible and the jurors believed them. And from all accounts Deputy Dist. Attys. Reinhold Mueller and Ariel Anson were great during the closing arguments.

Masterson had some really good attorneys including Shawn Holley, who was one of the "Dream Team" attorneys for OJ Simpson that got him acquitted. But they didn't have much to work with. :no:
 
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