The Danny Masterson Trial thread
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SuperstarNeilC
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onceuponatime
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Reports from the first day are up on substack, a lot of talk of Scientology so far, more than I was expecting to be honest. I think where the DA is going is important so that the jury understands the Scientology mindset. Your only friends and everyone you know, your job, everything, is Scientology and you do truthfully look down on non-Scientologists. So losing Scientology is losing everything, I think the jury needs to understand that. But I do wonder if going so into Scientology is taking it too far and gives some openings to the defense, the judge didn't seem too happy with how much Scientology came up. It's a hard line to walk, but I have faith in the prosecution.
mimsey borogrove
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The thing that is obvious - it all goes back to Hubbard's egocentric statements that ethics policy is prime over wog law. His policies about preventing Scientologists from going to the police are the genus of this hill ten mega out pr flap. Had Schwartz and Ells gave these victims the green light to go to the police, and let Danny hang - none of this would have come to pass.
If half or more of what Danny was alleged to have done in the opening statements today is true - the guy is a "DB", not an "upstat". Since when does someone like that deserve ethics protection, just because he's a celebrity?
While Danny is on trial for rape, Scientology should be on trial for their part of covering up his criminal acts. What ever mud is slung their way, they deserve.
Mimsey
If half or more of what Danny was alleged to have done in the opening statements today is true - the guy is a "DB", not an "upstat". Since when does someone like that deserve ethics protection, just because he's a celebrity?
While Danny is on trial for rape, Scientology should be on trial for their part of covering up his criminal acts. What ever mud is slung their way, they deserve.
Mimsey
SuperstarNeilC
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Karakorum
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I'm pretty sure that the scientology angle will be helpful towards explaining the "why didn't they come forward sooner" part, but it will not win the case.
IMHO The case will be won or lost depending on how truthful and believable the victims will end up looking. I really think scientology will produce a huge amount of witnesses that will absolutely trash the witnesses morals, credibility, etc. The prosecution will need to defend them and knock down these witness statements.
Lee #28
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The latest info states that "Billy Baldwin" joined Danny Masterson at the Trial.....along with some family members...and others, in the courtroom.
What is the connection between William Baldwin....and Danny Masterson...... and or the Baldwin family of Actors...?
Is there any significance of a recognizable Movie Star....like him joining the crowd upon the Jury....?
Is there any connection between Billy Baldwin and Scientology?
What is the connection between William Baldwin....and Danny Masterson...... and or the Baldwin family of Actors...?
Is there any significance of a recognizable Movie Star....like him joining the crowd upon the Jury....?
Is there any connection between Billy Baldwin and Scientology?
Lee #28
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Found the answer.....Billy Baldwin and Danny are related due to marriage.... married to sisters.
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Found the answer.....Billy Baldwin and Danny are related due to marriage.... married to sisters.
Chynna Phillips speaks out on in-laws Hilaria Baldwin and Danny Masterson
"This is probably an awkward and embarrassing time for Alec and Hilaria," Phillips's husband, Billy Baldwin, shared.
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mimsey borogrove
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Their witness list was published - it's not that big. Tony shared it a few days ago. it's public record. You could google it and see if there's anybody you know. Mimsey
Isaac
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I genuinely believe that Scientology can cause a person to suffer temporary insanity. If I was Masterson's attorney would have had him plead "not guilty by reason of insanity".
Then during the trial bring in a series of expert witnesses that would make that case to the jury (and the judge).
Of course, I would also have hired a couple of off-duty police officers to provide 24/7 security for my pets as well.
Scientologists are skillfully trained, hypnotized, manipulated and deceived until they achieve the state of INSANITY to be minions of the evil dictator running the show.
Just look at how this religious cult unduly influences their slaves to salute to a con man, a criminal thug who used parlor tricks to manipulate and decieve his followers.
We were all there at one point - standing up ... saluting and clapping to that old crazy wind bag - LRH
I continue to CRINGE hard when I think back to my loyalty and willingness to believe the biggest lies ever told to homo saps
That Scientology and Scinetolgoists will HELP you achieve your goals and dreams while it covertly unduly influences you to drain your bank acccount, go into deep debt and / or financial ruin and behave as a programed slave working for nothing and being mistreated as if you did not matter to anyone
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Isaac
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To wrap up my comments on how Scientologiy drives its members to insanity... let us not forget Lisa McPherson
It is a fact that Scientologist and COB of Scientology, David Miscavige, with the assistance of his highly trained minions dedicated to "clearing the planet" all helped Lisa McPherson TO DEATH
That COB spent millions of parishoner's donations to cover up his crimes. and got away with it because Scientology hides behind the religious cloak.
Photo of Lisa McPherson prior to "Going Clear"
Photo of Lisa McPherson AFTER "Going Clear" and spending 17 days at Scientology's MECCA of spiritual enlightenment - FLAG - whereby she obtained the EP of Scientology's Introspectin Rundown.
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It is a fact that Scientologist and COB of Scientology, David Miscavige, with the assistance of his highly trained minions dedicated to "clearing the planet" all helped Lisa McPherson TO DEATH
That COB spent millions of parishoner's donations to cover up his crimes. and got away with it because Scientology hides behind the religious cloak.
Photo of Lisa McPherson prior to "Going Clear"
Photo of Lisa McPherson AFTER "Going Clear" and spending 17 days at Scientology's MECCA of spiritual enlightenment - FLAG - whereby she obtained the EP of Scientology's Introspectin Rundown.
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SuperstarNeilC
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Reyne Mayer
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it seems to me that sort of thing worked for them for a long time -- perhaps in part because the CoS was small enough for them to manage to keep a lid on things. but chickens come home to roost, and karma comes calling....
how many more cases were there of this sort (not even necessarily exactly the same type of crime) where the CoS successfully buried it? i know i've run across references to quite a few, if not quite as sensational. and hey, we've never gotten the police reports about what really went on with the 2019 shooting of the man with the sword (a bizarrely recurrent theme) in the Inglewood org, and what his connection to people there and history with it really was....
Isaac
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Just look at that smug little prick with his insouciant certainty. I hope he is locked up for the rest of his life.
Bijous Phillips is an enabler and is going to regret being married to this thug
David Miscavige aka “Scientology “ may try to suppress the court from talking about Scientology
But Scientology is on trial right along with criminal rapist Danny Masterson and his creepy family
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Reyne Mayer
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Found the answer.....Billy Baldwin and Danny are related due to marriage.... married to sisters.
Chynna Phillips speaks out on in-laws Hilaria Baldwin and Danny Masterson
"This is probably an awkward and embarrassing time for Alec and Hilaria," Phillips's husband, Billy Baldwin, shared.
good find.
if they are married to sisters from a very dysfunctional family with allegations of almost unimaginable abuse, it's not surprising he would support Danny, and either believe him innocent or at least only guilty of something that 'strong island man' types (as Bijou puts it) do and don't really deserve to be punished for.
Karakorum
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There is.
I'm no legal expert, but I think they can call more as the trial drags on and new facts see light, right?
onceuponatime
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it seems to me that sort of thing worked for them for a long time -- perhaps in part because the CoS was small enough for them to manage to keep a lid on things. but chickens come home to roost, and karma comes calling....
how many more cases were there of this sort (not even necessarily exactly the same type of crime) where the CoS successfully buried it? i know i've run across references to quite a few, if not quite as sensational. and hey, we've never gotten the police reports about what really went on with the 2019 shooting of the man with the sword (a bizarrely recurrent theme) in the Inglewood org, and what his connection to people there and history with it really was....
Personally I'd put the number of crimes buried by Scientology in the 1000s. Nothing ever gets reported and while there may be some internal ethics applied there's nothing like true justice.
Lee #28
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If Masterson keeps coming into Court....all smiley and saying Goodmorning to the Jury......after today's testimony....he will look like a psycho.....IMO.
It would be good to have some reports as to Masterson's demenor and general atmosphere in the Court Room....
What is the gauge of the crowd..... How are they taking this testimony?
It would be good to have some reports as to Masterson's demenor and general atmosphere in the Court Room....
What is the gauge of the crowd..... How are they taking this testimony?