guanoloco
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I once wrote a piece called Ron's Recruit Cycle where Hubbard's own past is compared to his own policies...like no exec posting with blackmailable pasts, etc.
The "Founder" wasn't even fit to be the janitor.
TOP SUPER-STUPID MOMENTS IN SCIENTOLOGY (PART V)
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I once wrote a piece called Ron's Recruit Cycle where Hubbard's own past is compared to his own policies...like no exec posting with blackmailable pasts, etc.
The "Founder" wasn't even fit to be the janitor.
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Reader's Note: In fact Hubbard required that all his "religious ministers" exhaustively train and drill on selling techniques from a book "BIG LEAGUE CLOSING TECHNIQUES" written by a used car salesman. [ "Assumptive Close" ]
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Has anyone actually been able to watch that entire video (above) of group processing? LOL
Here's a screen capture again. Despite having been in Scientology, I still find it unimaginably
difficult to remember anything this entirely and inexplicably stupid.
Can anyone explain WTF is supposed to happen?
I'll try to explain it the best I can. . .
The cloyingly ebullient minister in perfect mimicry of his cult leader Hubbard's total certainty,
chants magical commands at marks, expecting them at any moment to experience
marvelous miracles. Command after command is given but nothing is happening.
However, far from being discouraged by utter failure, the holy man sports
increasingly triumphant and knowing grins as he
repetitively barks out "WEAR A HEAD!"
So, that's Scientology. Nothing happens.
But the pitch man jubilantly reacts
as if it's obvious that everyone
just witnessed a miracle.
In used car sales
it's called the
assumptive
close.
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Here's a screen capture again. Despite having been in Scientology, I still find it unimaginably
difficult to remember anything this entirely and inexplicably stupid.
Can anyone explain WTF is supposed to happen?
I'll try to explain it the best I can. . .
The cloyingly ebullient minister in perfect mimicry of his cult leader Hubbard's total certainty,
chants magical commands at marks, expecting them at any moment to experience
marvelous miracles. Command after command is given but nothing is happening.
However, far from being discouraged by utter failure, the holy man sports
increasingly triumphant and knowing grins as he
repetitively barks out "WEAR A HEAD!"
So, that's Scientology. Nothing happens.
But the pitch man jubilantly reacts
as if it's obvious that everyone
just witnessed a miracle.
In used car sales
it's called the
assumptive
close.
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Reader's Note: In fact Hubbard required that all his "religious ministers" exhaustively train and drill on selling techniques from a book "BIG LEAGUE CLOSING TECHNIQUES" written by a used car salesman. [ "Assumptive Close" ]
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HelluvaHoax!
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cross-posted from another thread
"The IAS - The Biggest Con of All"
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Wanna see Scientology's advanced technology on how to handle a blown
church member who sends a message to the org explaining why they left?
Below is Scientology's response.
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cross-posted from another thread
"The IAS - The Biggest Con of All"
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Wanna see Scientology's advanced technology on how to handle a blown
church member who sends a message to the org explaining why they left?
Below is Scientology's response.
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COMMENTARY ON THE ABOVE:
Scientology is the only organization in the world whose complaint department literally brags that they ignore unhappy customers.
It's hard to calculate this level of cultic stupidity, but try to imagine if possible that:
-- The holiest scripture in Scientology is the policy called KEEPING SCIENTOLOGY WORKING ("KSW"), which emphatically states that the "only reason" orgs and staff get "upbraided" is from "NO RESULTS".
-- Yet here are all these KSW fanatics and the first time (and every time) they see anyone upbraiding or criticizing Scientology, they claim that the reason for the attack is that Scientology is getting such INCREDIBLE RESULTS (i.e. "...people only scream/howl/complain when we are winning!")
It just doesn't get any dumber, nuttier & cultier than that!
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cross-posted from another thread
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cross-posted from another thread
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SCIENTOLOGY'S SENIOR POLICY: "Always delivery what you promise!" -L. Ron Hubbard
WHAT SCIENTOLOGY PROMISES: To free mankind from the debilitating bondage of engrams and an eternity of ANATEN.
WHAT SCIENTOLOGY DELIVERS: The IAS. The International Association of SOMNAMBULISTS.
PRO TIP: The membership requirements for the IAS are very stringent. Applicants must first pay enormous sums of money to be scientifically tested, in order to determine if they are ethical and able enough to remain soundly asleep whilst being robbed blind.
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guanoloco
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Are you telling me that Scientologists aren't woke?
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posted by Karen#1
LOL!
Not only is COB's gesture magnanimous, it's an excellent application of the "Bean Theory of Production" as discovered by Dr. Hubbard. Let's break it down mathematically:
COB'S LIFESTYLE COSTS: One can conservatively estimate of how much income would be required (before taxes) to support and maintain a lavish lifestyle that includes:
ESTIMATED ANNUAL COB INCOME REQUIRED: $5,000,000. After state & federal taxes COB would net the approximately required $50K per week to maintain that billionaire lifestyle.
COMPARISON TO OTHER SEA ORG MEMBERS' SALARIES: Over 30 years, COB would have been paid appx. $150M. During the same 30 years a typical Sea Org member would have received appx. $60K (40 dollars a week). Therefore, for a Sea Org member to receive the same compensation as COB they would have to slave for 2,500 years without spending a penny.
BEAN THEORY: COB generously provides Sea Org members full ONE HOUR MEAL BREAKS for very ethical productive reasons. Each year Sea Org members are required to donate substantial portions of their $40 a week salary towards a pool to buy COB lavish birthday and Christmas presents such as luxury BMWs, et al. Normally meal breaks are 15 minutes, thus the additional 45 minutes provides Sea Org members with the necessary time to do the collections, shopping and wrapping for his presents.
BIG BEANS FOR BIG BEINGS THEORY: Small beings should flow power, money and presents to Big Beings. So far in Scientology's 69 year history only two Big Beings have been scientifically verified to exist, the Commodore and the COB. The good news is that eventually all small beings will become big beings like Ron & Dave, if they simply follow orders and keep flowing power (and cash) up-lines, where the Big Beings have knowingness how to use it to save the universe.
REALITY CHECK: Seriously. $40 a week slaves forced to "donate" their money to buying their billionaire slavemaster presents. This is actually a really good deal for Sea Org members, because it only requires 2,500 years---meaning quite early on in their billion year contract (in the year 4,520)---until they will be able to have saved enough to buy an old junker BMW that used to belong to COB a couple millennia ago.
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Kindness and Generosity
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LOL!
Not only is COB's gesture magnanimous, it's an excellent application of the "Bean Theory of Production" as discovered by Dr. Hubbard. Let's break it down mathematically:
COB'S LIFESTYLE COSTS: One can conservatively estimate of how much income would be required (before taxes) to support and maintain a lavish lifestyle that includes:
-- multiple mansions, houses & condos worth many millions of dollars
-- multiple luxury automobiles, motorcycles and armored transport
-- personal 24/7 security
-- private jet & limousine services
-- personal civil, criminal and tax attorneys & CPAs
-- a million dollar-plus bespoke wardrobe
-- 24/7 personal valet & butler staff
-- personal 5-star meals, chefs, kitchens & servers.
-- finest restaurants in the world
-- personal workout facilities in different cities
-- highest quality recreational equipment
-- globetrotting vacations
-- VIP sporting, music & entertainment events
-- lavishly expensive parties (e.g. Over $200K for Tom Cruise's birthday party)
-- lavishly customized personal office worth many millions of dollars
ESTIMATED ANNUAL COB INCOME REQUIRED: $5,000,000. After state & federal taxes COB would net the approximately required $50K per week to maintain that billionaire lifestyle.
COMPARISON TO OTHER SEA ORG MEMBERS' SALARIES: Over 30 years, COB would have been paid appx. $150M. During the same 30 years a typical Sea Org member would have received appx. $60K (40 dollars a week). Therefore, for a Sea Org member to receive the same compensation as COB they would have to slave for 2,500 years without spending a penny.
BEAN THEORY: COB generously provides Sea Org members full ONE HOUR MEAL BREAKS for very ethical productive reasons. Each year Sea Org members are required to donate substantial portions of their $40 a week salary towards a pool to buy COB lavish birthday and Christmas presents such as luxury BMWs, et al. Normally meal breaks are 15 minutes, thus the additional 45 minutes provides Sea Org members with the necessary time to do the collections, shopping and wrapping for his presents.
BIG BEANS FOR BIG BEINGS THEORY: Small beings should flow power, money and presents to Big Beings. So far in Scientology's 69 year history only two Big Beings have been scientifically verified to exist, the Commodore and the COB. The good news is that eventually all small beings will become big beings like Ron & Dave, if they simply follow orders and keep flowing power (and cash) up-lines, where the Big Beings have knowingness how to use it to save the universe.
REALITY CHECK: Seriously. $40 a week slaves forced to "donate" their money to buying their billionaire slavemaster presents. This is actually a really good deal for Sea Org members, because it only requires 2,500 years---meaning quite early on in their billion year contract (in the year 4,520)---until they will be able to have saved enough to buy an old junker BMW that used to belong to COB a couple millennia ago.
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LOL LOL LOL
Oh, hell yeah, they're wayyy woke!
Especially the OTs who are the only beings on this planet who are fully in present time. All other beings (Preclears, DBs , SPs and BTs) are not woke. They are anaten, unconscious, dormant and out of PT--- stuck in an incident from 75 million years down the track.
That's why present-time OTs only wear present-time standard clothing from Ron's Ideal Present Time Clothing Store!
They're totally in present time, don't worry about those 235 trillion year old
Galactic Confederation symbols on their hats. Those are just there
to scientifically demonstrate and prove that OTs are not
the effect of whole track implants and
don't get restimulated at all!
Obviously they're in PT,
otherwise they
couldn't be
VGIs.
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A non-scientologist "WOG" drove by an Ideal Org a few days ago and it had a CHRISTMAS TREE proudly displayed. Inexorably drawn to it, he parked and went in.
And, inside there were sacred religious MINISTERS wearing CLERICAL COLLARS. One very happy looking holy man with blinkless eyes and a blingy CROSS came right up and welcomed him---from just a few inches away from his face---with a startlingly loud HELLO!!!!!
WOG
So, I was driving by and noticed your Christmas tree
and the big cross in front and the word "church" and the
word "Scientology"--and I was wondering what you people do here.
MINISTER
Well! You've come to the right place! Scientology can
help you handle that ruin!
WOG
What do you mean, what ruin?
MINISTER
Well you said you were "wondering" what we do,
and that is mystery. In Scientology we help
handle the reason that beings are not totally certain.
WOG
Um....but anyways, I mean, you're wearing a cross
so is this like a Christian church?
MINISTER
Sure, why not. Whatever floats your boat.
WOG
My boat? I don't get it. Is that some kind of
religious allegorical reference to Noah's Ark?
MINISTER
Who's Noah? We don't have anyone on-lines
named Noah but we do have an ARC,
the A.R.C triangle. As a matter of fact
we just recently released the new
basics books where Ron describes
how you can use the ARC triangle
to boom your income lines.
WOG
Whattt??? Who's Ron? And why are you
talking about triangles? I really don't get it.
MINISTER
Forget I mentioned triangles, let me tell you
the best part about the newly released books.
They're so incredibly amazing because we totally
corrected all the typographical & punctuation mistakes!!!
WOG
What? I don't get it, don't all books do that,
like---before they get printed?
MINISTER
Not Ron's books. It took us 63 years of raising
our spiritual awareness before we could
perceive those errors. So our
tech has proven to work.
WOG
Yeah, whatever. Well I really gotta get going!
MINISTER
I am so happy to hear you say that. Because that's
why I'm here, to help you get going up your Bridge.
WOG
Huhhh? Honestly, I'm really not able
to understand anything you're saying.
MINISTER
Oh but you are able! Scientology is for the able and
you are very very very very very able indeed!
You are the elite of the elite able!
WOG
You don't even know me, how can you say
with so much certainty that I am elite and able?
MINISTER
I saw you do something that Scientologists take many
years and even decades to be able enough to do!
WOG
I still have no idea you are talking about.
MINISTER
I saw it with my own two eyes, right
before you came in our church. I saw
you use your OT powers to find a parking space.
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MERRY CHRISTMAS SCIENTOLOGY STYLE
PRESENTS THE BELOVED TALE OF
"It's A Wonderful Cult!"
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PRESENTS THE BELOVED TALE OF
"It's A Wonderful Cult!"
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A non-scientologist "WOG" drove by an Ideal Org a few days ago and it had a CHRISTMAS TREE proudly displayed. Inexorably drawn to it, he parked and went in.
And, inside there were sacred religious MINISTERS wearing CLERICAL COLLARS. One very happy looking holy man with blinkless eyes and a blingy CROSS came right up and welcomed him---from just a few inches away from his face---with a startlingly loud HELLO!!!!!
WOG
So, I was driving by and noticed your Christmas tree
and the big cross in front and the word "church" and the
word "Scientology"--and I was wondering what you people do here.
MINISTER
Well! You've come to the right place! Scientology can
help you handle that ruin!
WOG
What do you mean, what ruin?
MINISTER
Well you said you were "wondering" what we do,
and that is mystery. In Scientology we help
handle the reason that beings are not totally certain.
WOG
Um....but anyways, I mean, you're wearing a cross
so is this like a Christian church?
MINISTER
Sure, why not. Whatever floats your boat.
WOG
My boat? I don't get it. Is that some kind of
religious allegorical reference to Noah's Ark?
MINISTER
Who's Noah? We don't have anyone on-lines
named Noah but we do have an ARC,
the A.R.C triangle. As a matter of fact
we just recently released the new
basics books where Ron describes
how you can use the ARC triangle
to boom your income lines.
WOG
Whattt??? Who's Ron? And why are you
talking about triangles? I really don't get it.
MINISTER
Forget I mentioned triangles, let me tell you
the best part about the newly released books.
They're so incredibly amazing because we totally
corrected all the typographical & punctuation mistakes!!!
WOG
What? I don't get it, don't all books do that,
like---before they get printed?
MINISTER
Not Ron's books. It took us 63 years of raising
our spiritual awareness before we could
perceive those errors. So our
tech has proven to work.
WOG
Yeah, whatever. Well I really gotta get going!
MINISTER
I am so happy to hear you say that. Because that's
why I'm here, to help you get going up your Bridge.
WOG
Huhhh? Honestly, I'm really not able
to understand anything you're saying.
MINISTER
Oh but you are able! Scientology is for the able and
you are very very very very very able indeed!
You are the elite of the elite able!
WOG
You don't even know me, how can you say
with so much certainty that I am elite and able?
MINISTER
I saw you do something that Scientologists take many
years and even decades to be able enough to do!
WOG
I still have no idea you are talking about.
MINISTER
I saw it with my own two eyes, right
before you came in our church. I saw
you use your OT powers to find a parking space.
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Talking about Christmas classics, can anyone even imagine what would happen if Scientology actually conquered the world and re-edited and re-dubbed all movies to make them Upstat, Uptone, Theta, On Source, Ethical, Standard and Ideal?
Talking about Christmas classics, can anyone even imagine what would happen if Scientology actually conquered the world and re-edited and re-dubbed all movies to make them Upstat, Uptone, Theta, On Source, Ethical, Standard and Ideal?
IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE!
IT'S A WONDERFUL BRIDGE!
"Look daddy, every time a bell rings an angel gets his wings!"
Look daddy, every time a phone rings a pc gets his new tech estimate!"
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IT'S A WONDERFUL BRIDGE!
"Look daddy, every time a bell rings an angel gets his wings!"
Look daddy, every time a phone rings a pc gets his new tech estimate!"
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Imagine if you will, that a delusional cult has just taken over
the planet and all your favorite movies get "handled" to make
them upstat, uptone, theta, on-source, ethical, standard & ideal.
You're just entered....THE SCIENTOLOGY ZONE!
THE GODFATHER
THE 8TH DYNAMIC TERMINAL
I'M GOING TO MAKE HIM AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE!
I'M GOING TO POSTULATE AND ROUTE A TONE 40 CSW
THAT WILL BLOW OFF ALL HIS COUNTER & OTHER INTENTIONS.
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Imagine if you will, that a delusional cult has just taken over
the planet and all your favorite movies get "handled" to make
them upstat, uptone, theta, on-source, ethical, standard & ideal.
You're just entered....THE SCIENTOLOGY ZONE!
THE GODFATHER
THE 8TH DYNAMIC TERMINAL
I'M GOING TO MAKE HIM AN OFFER HE CAN'T REFUSE!
I'M GOING TO POSTULATE AND ROUTE A TONE 40 CSW
THAT WILL BLOW OFF ALL HIS COUNTER & OTHER INTENTIONS.
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My favorite Christmas movies:
Die Hard -- (Yes, it's a Christmas movie!) On Christmas Eve 1988, a group of terrorists led
by Hans Gruber take Nakatomi employees hostage during their Christmas party. The
movie ends with the song Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! performed by Vaughn Monroe.
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo -- (Yes, it's a Christmas movie too!) In the opening scenes, Mikael
Blomkvist exits the court building and then we see him at a Christmas celebration with the
editorial board of the journal Millennium. Then he leaves the celebration and retreats his sister's
home for a Christmas dinner and baking cookies in the kitchen. Henrik Vanger calls him there and
arranges to meet him the next day about solving a cold case: the disappearance of his niece, Harriet,
who has been missing for decades.
The Scientology-themed version of GWTDT
In the Scientology-themed version of this "Christmas classic," Mikael and Lisbeth Salander are hired
by Shelly Miscavige's distant relatives to track down Shelly. She has been missing for the past 15 years.
They find her after some difficult sleuthing through the Scientology underworld and more than
a few hair-raising adventures. (Mostly with OSA and PIs dogging them at every step.) Spoiler below.
Die Hard -- (Yes, it's a Christmas movie!) On Christmas Eve 1988, a group of terrorists led
by Hans Gruber take Nakatomi employees hostage during their Christmas party. The
movie ends with the song Let It Snow! Let It Snow! Let It Snow! performed by Vaughn Monroe.
The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo -- (Yes, it's a Christmas movie too!) In the opening scenes, Mikael
Blomkvist exits the court building and then we see him at a Christmas celebration with the
editorial board of the journal Millennium. Then he leaves the celebration and retreats his sister's
home for a Christmas dinner and baking cookies in the kitchen. Henrik Vanger calls him there and
arranges to meet him the next day about solving a cold case: the disappearance of his niece, Harriet,
who has been missing for decades.
The Scientology-themed version of GWTDT
In the Scientology-themed version of this "Christmas classic," Mikael and Lisbeth Salander are hired
by Shelly Miscavige's distant relatives to track down Shelly. She has been missing for the past 15 years.
They find her after some difficult sleuthing through the Scientology underworld and more than
a few hair-raising adventures. (Mostly with OSA and PIs dogging them at every step.) Spoiler below.
They end up locating her at the Hôtel Hermitage Monte-Carlo in the Principality of Monaco,
where her husband has been keeping her holed up with two Sea Org minders. All at parishioner
expense, of course. No expense spared.
where her husband has been keeping her holed up with two Sea Org minders. All at parishioner
expense, of course. No expense spared.
Karen#1
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posted by HelluvaHoax
Not only is COB's gesture magnanimous, it's an excellent application of the "Bean Theory of Production" as discovered by Dr. Hubbard. Let's break it down mathematically:
COB'S LIFESTYLE COSTS: One can conservatively estimate of how much income would be required (before taxes) to support and maintain a lavish lifestyle that includes:
-- multiple mansions, houses & condos worth many millions of dollars-- multiple luxury automobiles, motorcycles and armored transport-- personal 24/7 security-- private jet & limousine services-- personal civil, criminal and tax attorneys & CPAs-- a million dollar-plus bespoke wardrobe-- 24/7 personal valet & butler staff-- personal 5-star meals, chefs, kitchens & servers.-- finest restaurants in the world-- personal workout facilities in different cities-- highest quality recreational equipment-- globetrotting vacations-- VIP sporting, music & entertainment events-- lavishly expensive parties (e.g. Over $200K for Tom Cruise's birthday party)And Miscavige came to understand he could live like a Saudi King with a free pass from IRS and all government agencies...but for how long?
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* Dr. Hubbard's final years were spent on the lam in a blue-bird motorhome, miserably failing to outrun and escape service from his his karmic kreditors.
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posted by Karen#1And Miscavige came to understand he could live like a Saudi King with a
free pass from IRS and all government agencies...but for how long?
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ANSWER: As Commodore, so COB.
"...and he'll have fun, fun, fun til hisdaddy karma
takes the t-bird blue-bird* away"
free pass from IRS and all government agencies...but for how long?
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ANSWER: As Commodore, so COB.
"...and he'll have fun, fun, fun til his
takes the t-
* Dr. Hubbard's final years were spent on the lam in a blue-bird motorhome, miserably failing to outrun and escape service from his his karmic kreditors.
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As Commodore, so COB
"...and he'll have fun, fun fun until Karma takes the Blue-Bird away." Hubbard's final years were spent on the lam in a blue-bird motorhome, miserably failing to outrun and escape service from his his karmic kreditors.
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If the aphorism "As Commodore, so COB" holds true, Scientology may well have other predictive derivatives to consider:
All this funny business in the cult of Scientology began back in the early days (50's / 60's) when the first Clears ascended to the miraculous new spiritual height of Homo Novis. Let's recall briefly how LRH proudly declared John McMasters to be "The World's First Clear!" Less than 20 months later Hubbard declared him to be an SP.
Not convinced yet? Sure, we can cite another example if that helps. Let's recall that for many decades Scientology's "C-Suite" (Commodore/Cob) has quite bombastically promoted the goal of building every org to "The Size Of Old St. Hill". This was not just some minor administrative rah-rah pep talk. The entire fate of mankind was precariously held at risk if they didn't meet these gross income quotas, because the Bridge itself (OT VIII, IX and X) would not be released until all these barely solvent McClearing franchises were sending millions of dollars uplines to Ray Kroc* Ron Kroc (of krap).
How's that for a hostage/ransom metric? "We've got the tech to save y'all from eternal hell but unless some of our Fast-Food-F/Ning-Franchises start flowing big bucks to our Founder--well, we ain't gonna let you DBs go Free, how 'bout dat?!"
Okay, let's take a deep dive then and see how the "Ideal Scene" in Scientology is really exactly the same as the worst case scenario (As SP, so OT). How ideal was Old St. Hill? How OT were the Operating Thetans?
Unfortunately the OTs are really SPs! Surprise ending. Here's a partial list which was compiled back in 2010.
Even the greatest OT in the universe, Hubbard himself, ended up as a blown SP. The only difference, it appears, between Ron (the SP savior of mankind ) and Everyone-else (the garden-variety SPs) is that Hubbard's marketing was better. When he tried to kill himself and blew and betrayed all beings on this planet, the copywriters called it an OT miracle. Yup, he was sooooooooo OT that he had to depart ("shed his impediment") to continue advanced research out in deep space.
This all makes sense, because Ron's 50 years of research on this planet was apparently no good, which is why he ended up not getting any case gain (NCG) which made him just look and act like an SP. But he's taking responsibility for allowing the DBs, criminals and SPs on earth to screw up his messianic mission---and THAT'S why he had to rise above us and move to another galaxy. We did this to him, it's quite an awful way to thank someone who saved us all from becoming SPs and blowing before the Earth gets cleared.
PRO TIP TO SCIENTOLOGISTS: I know you are very, very, very excited for the day when all orgs have gone OLD ST. HILL SIZE and IDEAL and the highest OT levels are finally released, OT IX and OT X! But (spoiler alert) those upper levels have already been leaked. Just re-watch the "RON-IS-SO-OT-HE'S-DEAD!" event. Those are the confidential upper levels. When you complete them you don't get a completion certificate, but at least you get 20 thousand cult members standing and cheering.
* Ray Kroc (LINK)
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As Commodore, so COB
"...and he'll have fun, fun fun until Karma takes the Blue-Bird away." Hubbard's final years were spent on the lam in a blue-bird motorhome, miserably failing to outrun and escape service from his his karmic kreditors.
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If the aphorism "As Commodore, so COB" holds true, Scientology may well have other predictive derivatives to consider:
"As SP, so OT"
All this funny business in the cult of Scientology began back in the early days (50's / 60's) when the first Clears ascended to the miraculous new spiritual height of Homo Novis. Let's recall briefly how LRH proudly declared John McMasters to be "The World's First Clear!" Less than 20 months later Hubbard declared him to be an SP.
Not convinced yet? Sure, we can cite another example if that helps. Let's recall that for many decades Scientology's "C-Suite" (Commodore/Cob) has quite bombastically promoted the goal of building every org to "The Size Of Old St. Hill". This was not just some minor administrative rah-rah pep talk. The entire fate of mankind was precariously held at risk if they didn't meet these gross income quotas, because the Bridge itself (OT VIII, IX and X) would not be released until all these barely solvent McClearing franchises were sending millions of dollars uplines to Ray Kroc* Ron Kroc (of krap).
How's that for a hostage/ransom metric? "We've got the tech to save y'all from eternal hell but unless some of our Fast-Food-F/Ning-Franchises start flowing big bucks to our Founder--well, we ain't gonna let you DBs go Free, how 'bout dat?!"
Okay, let's take a deep dive then and see how the "Ideal Scene" in Scientology is really exactly the same as the worst case scenario (As SP, so OT). How ideal was Old St. Hill? How OT were the Operating Thetans?
Unfortunately the OTs are really SPs! Surprise ending. Here's a partial list which was compiled back in 2010.
The following is a list of the names of 37 of the 50 staff members from St. Hill, the last Org LRH run himself, which you removed and declared.
Ken Urquhart LRH Pers Comm, LRH Butler, for 15 yrs (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
J.J Delance Technical Staff Clear #17 Started Scn in France (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Leon Steinberg Exec Council Clear #10 Personal Friend of LRH One of the original LRH trained Class XII (DECLARED SP (Declared by Current Church Leadership)
Jenny Parkhouse Treasury Staff Clear #54 Personal Friend of LRH (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Pat Bloomberg Dissem Sec (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Peter Hemery HCO Secretary Personal Friend of LRH (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Mike Rigby Dir Accounts (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Joyce Popham LRH Pers Sec (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Joan McNocher: D/Guardian (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Robin Hancocks Deputy HCO Executive Sec (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Frank Freedman D/Qual Clear #127 Class VIII (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Betty James Ad Council Chairman (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
John McMaster SHSBC Course Supervisor FIRST CLEAR (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Pam Pearcy Ad Council Clear #211 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Reg Sharpe LRH Assistant Personal Friend of LRH Clear #7 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Tony Dunleavy Clearing Course Supervisor Clear #20 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Connie Broadbent Dir Accounts Clear #29 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Craig Lipsitz Qual Staff Clear #30 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership, but now undeclared)
Sheena Fairchild Tech Staff Clear #41 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Jennifer Edmonds Tech Staff Clear #15 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Bernie Green Tech Staff Clear #18 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Gareth McCoy Dissem Staff Clear #21 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
John Lawrence Tech Staff Clear #28 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Peggy Bankston Tech Staff Clear #34 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Helen Pollen Qual Staff Clear #47 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Fred Fairchild Tech Staff Clear #49 . (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Dorothy Knight Dissem Staff Clear #50 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Judy Gray Tech Staff Clear #56 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Cal Wigney Div 6 Staff Clear #57 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Mary Long Div 6 Staff Clear #58 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Bill Robertson Tech Staff Clear #61 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Linda Nussbaum Exec Staff Clear #62 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Robin Lindsell Tech Staff Clear #73 Class XII (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Val Wigney Saint Hill Interne Clear #87 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Edith Hoyseth Saint Hill Interne Clear #105 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Roger Biddell Saint Hill Interne Clear #107 (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Cyril Vosper Tech Staff (DECLARED SP by Current Church Leadership)
Brian Livingston Tech Staff Clear #35 Original LRH trained Class XII (DECLARED SP)
Approximately 98% of those who achieve the state of OT end up blowing Scientology, which is a "suppressive act" done only by SPs. Naturally Scientology has so many people to "declare SP" they sometimes forget to issue the "goldenrod" ethics order publicly condemning the person and carefully ordering all Scientologists to immediately disconnect from them. Even without a printed SP order the party is declared to be "NCG" which is "no case gain". Hubbard wrote innumerable policy and technical explanations that explicitly stated that the only reason a being does not get case gain is because they are an evil SP.Even the greatest OT in the universe, Hubbard himself, ended up as a blown SP. The only difference, it appears, between Ron (the SP savior of mankind ) and Everyone-else (the garden-variety SPs) is that Hubbard's marketing was better. When he tried to kill himself and blew and betrayed all beings on this planet, the copywriters called it an OT miracle. Yup, he was sooooooooo OT that he had to depart ("shed his impediment") to continue advanced research out in deep space.
This all makes sense, because Ron's 50 years of research on this planet was apparently no good, which is why he ended up not getting any case gain (NCG) which made him just look and act like an SP. But he's taking responsibility for allowing the DBs, criminals and SPs on earth to screw up his messianic mission---and THAT'S why he had to rise above us and move to another galaxy. We did this to him, it's quite an awful way to thank someone who saved us all from becoming SPs and blowing before the Earth gets cleared.
PRO TIP TO SCIENTOLOGISTS: I know you are very, very, very excited for the day when all orgs have gone OLD ST. HILL SIZE and IDEAL and the highest OT levels are finally released, OT IX and OT X! But (spoiler alert) those upper levels have already been leaked. Just re-watch the "RON-IS-SO-OT-HE'S-DEAD!" event. Those are the confidential upper levels. When you complete them you don't get a completion certificate, but at least you get 20 thousand cult members standing and cheering.
* Ray Kroc (LINK)
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Karen#1
Well-known member
What is it like to be a Dictator, a Controller, a complete and absolute Guru and authority on a flock of devotees that believe you are almost supernatural ?
You have control of all the finance. You control all the wealth of the real estate holdings, all the wealth in the offshore overseas accounts such as Luxembourg You control multi billions You can assign unlimited funds to destroy opponents and critics You have the ability to hire with Tax exempt $$$ IT personnel to make literally 100s and 100s of hate pages, sometimes with information only given in an auditing session.
You'd be the total dictator and final say of a rich and affluent mind control cult that uses spies, private investigators, lawyers. dirty tricks, and intimidation especially suing the political weapon of "Suppressive Person Declare" to cut off all friends and family to isolate and immobilize the target.
You're surrounded by sycophants, adoring followers and have never ending sadistic prisons such as SP Hole, (Suppressive Person Hole) and Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF) to handle dissidents and those that do not toe the line.
You can interrogate anyone for any reason in any way you please and order them and summon them to confessionals designed to cave them in.
You have access to all of Hubbard's writings in the last 6 years of his life at Creston, all his writings and 40 steamer trunks of documents towed around through his life, including Hubbard's handwritten (complete) Affirmations, personal correspondence, drafts of writings started but never mailed or sent, his medical records, photographs, and his secret Guardian Orders, now called OSA network Orders.
All of Hubbard's secret orders and instructions would be available to you.
And what do you do ? Continue to vampire suction out every last dime to continue to have plenty in the piggy bank for more attacks, more harm and destruction.
The question is for how long ? All activities have an expiration date and a certain shelf life. How much longer do we have to see Scientology inc act out their harm and abuse ?
It will come to an end. The question is..........does it have to end badly ?
You have control of all the finance. You control all the wealth of the real estate holdings, all the wealth in the offshore overseas accounts such as Luxembourg You control multi billions You can assign unlimited funds to destroy opponents and critics You have the ability to hire with Tax exempt $$$ IT personnel to make literally 100s and 100s of hate pages, sometimes with information only given in an auditing session.
You'd be the total dictator and final say of a rich and affluent mind control cult that uses spies, private investigators, lawyers. dirty tricks, and intimidation especially suing the political weapon of "Suppressive Person Declare" to cut off all friends and family to isolate and immobilize the target.
You're surrounded by sycophants, adoring followers and have never ending sadistic prisons such as SP Hole, (Suppressive Person Hole) and Rehabilitation Project Force (RPF) to handle dissidents and those that do not toe the line.
You can interrogate anyone for any reason in any way you please and order them and summon them to confessionals designed to cave them in.
You have access to all of Hubbard's writings in the last 6 years of his life at Creston, all his writings and 40 steamer trunks of documents towed around through his life, including Hubbard's handwritten (complete) Affirmations, personal correspondence, drafts of writings started but never mailed or sent, his medical records, photographs, and his secret Guardian Orders, now called OSA network Orders.
All of Hubbard's secret orders and instructions would be available to you.
And what do you do ? Continue to vampire suction out every last dime to continue to have plenty in the piggy bank for more attacks, more harm and destruction.
The question is for how long ? All activities have an expiration date and a certain shelf life. How much longer do we have to see Scientology inc act out their harm and abuse ?
It will come to an end. The question is..........does it have to end badly ?