MV Freewinds

LaffyHypnotizedMe

Active member
Brother Hobson - Glad to see you back online with good recall. I assume our meat surgeons did a good job of repairing your body. Welcome back.

My comment about Telex came from reading a few policies that still call for Telex. If they're not using Telex, then it's technically squirreling. Isn't it? BTW I put my RPG-II and COBOL code against your Basic any day. Bring it on!!
 

Reyne Mayer

Pansexual Revolutionary
Maybe I misread the location when I zoomed the map in very far.
Vesseltracker shows that the ship has been moored in port for 500 days.

my understanding is that when a ship has been laid up that long it can't just resume operations, and has to be towed to a drydock for both technical reasons -- systems like steering may have rusted to the point of freezing up, for example --and regulatory ones:

After as little as six months, ships may lose certain certifications that allow them to sail legally.
The World’s Cruise Ships Can’t Sail. Now, What to Do With Them?
 

Reyne Mayer

Pansexual Revolutionary
At the time the video clip was taken (August, 2021) the Freewinds was still under quarantine in Aruba. That means that a hazardous biological organism is suspected to be on board by the port authorities. There was no gangway deployed between the vessel and the dock as part of the quarantine measures.
I haven't seen anything about them being formally quarantined since the measles outbreak, though they seem to have their own self-imposed quarantine measures. Also, from the context of the video, taken by passengers on another cruise ship, what was going on with the Freewinds was not the norm for vessels in port at that point..
 

Reyne Mayer

Pansexual Revolutionary
i'm also reminded of this in a piece today at the Underground Bunker:

The advertisements have even asked Scientologists to consider moving to the ship and using it as an office...
they are effectively billing it as a floating hotel, apparently with no plans or expectations that it will ever move again. i suspect they're flailing around in the face of some sort of catastrophic fail of the ship's seaworthiness and don't really know what to do.
 

Karakorum

Ron is the source that will lead you to grief
they are effectively billing it as a floating hotel, apparently with no plans or expectations that it will ever move again.
Hey, it's not like this sort of thing doesn't happen outside of CoS. Happens all the time.



 

Lee #28

Well-known member
Didn't the Sea Org have some sort of Hubbard explanation that it should be "Fabian?"

I had to look that up....and doesn't really fit.....

But....I recall something about how the Sea Org should "act" as being Fabian...

Sorry, I don't have a Cult Management Terms Defined....or Tech Dictionary on hand....

Anyway.....an anchored ship that doesn't move doesn't seem much like an Ideal Sea Org situation...
 

Reyne Mayer

Pansexual Revolutionary
Scientology Freewinds Boat 2021: Truth is Our Destination! (True Pandemic Lies)
one of the things that jumps out at me is the pictures of beaches, which even when the ship did still take passengers sailing that was something they would almost certainly not be given the leisure to set foot on themselves.

also, someone put up this video about the ship, that after 4 days has over 6k views:

 

Enthetan

Veteran of the Psychic Wars
Didn't the Sea Org have some sort of Hubbard explanation that it should be "Fabian?"

I had to look that up....and doesn't really fit.....

But....I recall something about how the Sea Org should "act" as being Fabian...

Sorry, I don't have a Cult Management Terms Defined....or Tech Dictionary on hand....

Anyway.....an anchored ship that doesn't move doesn't seem much like an Ideal Sea Org situation...
The point of being Fabian was to be hidden and appearing unexpectedly.

 

Reyne Mayer

Pansexual Revolutionary
the ship took a short loop yesterday, staying within sight of the port but apparently out for as long as 18 hours.

my guess is it's repaired enough to start doing the sort of exercise runs that normal cruise ships have been doing all along during the pandemic, but maybe not seaworthy enough to go out in open ocean carrying passengers.


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Pepin

Well-known member
There was never any such claim made by Ron Hubbard (ie: discovering any sort of telex technology).

There was, however, one of the earliest of his organizational policies requiring all official communications within or between Scientology organizations staff members and management take place in writing only. At the time, long distance telephone voice calls were prohibitively expensive and also resulted in poorly duplicated messages. Telex was chosen as a cost-effective means of long-distance communications because multiple messages could be composed offline and transmitted in a single burst many times faster than a human could type with perfect accuracy.

Hubbard was, in effect, using electronic mail for time-sensitive long-distance organizational communications decades before the Internet even existed.

By 1980, Scientology's International Management Organization (IMO) in Clearwater was using a custom programmed Texas Instruments 990 minicomputer as a store-and-forward telex routing system at the Clearwater HQ. In concept, this was similar in some ways to the early ARPANET (1969) or the later dial-up MODEM FidoNET (c. 1990's). In 1981, I worked in External Communications IMO and even wrote a special purpose program in TI 990 BASIC on that very system.
Store and forward. Sounds like Fidonet
 

TheSneakster

Well-known member
Store and forward. Sounds like Fidonet
FidoNET came into existence in 1983. It uses a sort of tree structure for routing, IIRC. C of S was using one central computer (a Texas Instruments 990 minicomputer) for the telex store and forward setup at the time I was at International Management Org (IMO) in 1981.
 

Pepin

Well-known member
FidoNET came into existence in 1983. It uses a sort of tree structure for routing, IIRC. C of S was using one central computer for the telex store and forward setup at the time I was at International Management Org (IMO) in 1981.
whatever, I used to store and forward Fidonet
 

TheSneakster

Well-known member
whatever, I used to store and forward Fidonet
Oh, yes. FidoNet was awesome and still is, in my opinion. Brilliantly engineered and a good deal more complex than what we were doing at IMO.
 
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